06 Jan 2011 23:23:55
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Ed
to me chamakh was an evolved bendtner, to come in and score the goals he did so quickly was a good return, but he`s not a 25 goal a season striker.
Thing is he does everything that bendtner does only better, so why keep bendtner?
Arsenal always won titles with a good winger and good striker, Marwood - Smith 89 Limpar - Wright 91
overmars - wright 98 pires - henry 2002 -2004
What does that tell you? {ed's note - I think width is essential, Arsene is trying to provide it by giving the players freedom, but they seem to always be looking for space in the middle instead of on the outside. A top class winger would transform the side and they are exciting to watch as well. I don't understand the point in keeping Bendtner either, he just isn't good enough for Arsenal in my opinion.}
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06 Jan 2011 22:57:49
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Ed /Ned
Thought there were lots of ed`s?
Anyway i agree with what you are saying, but they are not our biggest problem. If they were part of a better unit it would help. Some people believe all our defensive problems will dissapear when TV returns, they forget we conceded 69 goals last year with him.
Not his fault just the lack of defensive unit again.
Anyway keeper and striker and a decent winger would be nice, but i know will not happen.
ike {ed's note - a keeper is the obvious thing, the best you have at the club is clearly Szczesny(sp?) so why is he not playing? I agree on the winger too, a proper winger in front of a full back would make a huge difference. Or a properly attacking full back with the midfielders you have. What happened with Chamackh? Arsenal fans were raving about him at first, has he gone off the boil? Or was he just not as good as you all seemed to think? It is hard to judge a player until you have seen him play a number of times after all.}
06 Jan 2011 22:21:42
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Wow Ned (thats New ED)
You certainly stirred up a hornets nest today! Clearly you are over 25 as you refer to George Graham and by the sounds of it appreciate his work, something that many of todays arsenal fans don`t.
Sagna and clichy are both decent defenders that most if not all teams in england and europe would have (based on individual ability) the problem is, is that they play in a poor defensive unit and this highlights their (and anyone else`s) weaknesses.
Your right GG would rip their heads off and not give them any freedom, unlike AW. I wouldn`t mind so much if they delivered a decent ball, neither of them can cross, or if they scored a few goals! dixon and winterburn were usually good for 5/6 goals a season, doesn`t sound a lot but it counted.
Worst thing is we now get to watch eboue falling over for the next 3 games in place of sagna. . f* *.
And whilst Gibbs is good, can`t ever see him playing a full season, the guy is made of glass.
Anyway welcome aboard, but as you can see, if you dare say any anti AW comments or knock any of his players, the hornets will be buzzing all round you.
ike. {ed's note - I am not a new ed ike, I am the same one that has been here all along! I agree that Sagna and Clichy are not the worst players in the world and in a different team their weaknesses would not be exposed. But you play possession football with a lot of emphasis on full backs getting forward and supporting the attack. Sagna is ok defensively, or would be if he had some positional sense (which I agree could be down to the defensive unit he plays in) but going forward he is very poor. In a straight comparison to Glenn Johnson, I would choose Sagna every single time as an overall player but it is not always about having the best players in the world otherwise Real Madrid would have cleaned up every year. It is about having the right players for the system you play or fitting the system around the players you have. It seems to me like neither is happening any more. Let's face it, when you had Emmanuel Petit in the side was he the best midfielder in the world? Not a chance, but he was the best fit in the side you had and the style you played. Flamini is another example, brilliant for Arsenal but struggles anywhere else because he is just not suited. George Graham, in my opinion, is among the best, maybe even the best, defensive coaches in the world. I remember he used to go over the tactics on Sky years ago, pointing out when players had gone wrong, what they should have done etc. It was an eye opener for me, I learnt so much and what he said still applies today.}
06 Jan 2011 22:21:03
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Are u comparing glen johnson with sagna ed?really?so now what?wanna try to compare kyrgiakos with koscielny?konchesky with clichy?lucas with song?jovanovic with nasri?the only pool player that better than what we got is pepe reina.and maybe a 2007 version of torres.thats why we r in top 3 while pool r in 2nd half of the table.face it ed.
Mr.E {ed's note - what has that got to do with anything? I am not disputing that Arsenal are a better side, why are you Arsenal fans so petty and bitter? I was asked what I thought Arsenal needed to do to improve their squad, not Liverpool. My opinion is that your full backs are the weak link, they waste possession far too often and I stand by that.}
06 Jan 2011 21:07:20
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In my opinion the first XI that Wenger should play with no injuries:
Fabianski
Sagna Vermaelen Djourou Gibbs
Wilshere Song
Walcott Fabregas Nasri
Van persie
Click believable if you agree or field suggestions.
The Gunner
06 Jan 2011 20:30:20
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Kieron Gibbs has fallen out with Arsene Wenger because of his lack of first team games and has handed in a transfer request. West Brom, Stoke, Blackburn, Villa and QPR are all interested.
06 Jan 2011 19:16:04
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I know united fans who would gladly admit sagna is twice the player Rafael is
06 Jan 2011 19:06:19
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GIBBS Is Miles better Defensively and offensively than clichy, if clichy is happy then he will still be at AFC next Year But As #2 to Gibbs. samba will be signed before next prem game
gooner1010
06 Jan 2011 18:48:50
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We play brillent against city.
keeper was even good didn't have to do much because Koscielny and Djourou were good didn't let tevez do much. when Vermaelen gets back we should have a strong defence. out backline should be like:
koscielny, djourou, vermaelen, clichy.(i think)
our midfield was the best i ever seen it.
and rvp was class.
we should sell:
ALMUNIA
EBOUE
CLICHY
DENILSON
BENDTNER
VELA(loan)
ROISIKY
ARSHAVIN
ALL crap we could get up to 65-75mil for thes players
then use these funds for some young players like:
goalie:
shay given 9mil
De Gea, Asenjo, Akinfeev, Neur, Adler about 15-25mil for these players
defender:
mamsdou sakho 15ml
vertaghon 15mil (can play mid)
van der weil 15mil
sime vrsaljko 10-15mil(can play mid)
martesacker 10-15mil
mesex 15mil
darijo srna 15mil
giorgio chiellini 10-20mil
midfield:
innler 15mil
adam johnson 19mil
nilmar 15mil
hazard 15mil
mvila 15-20mil
ashley young (bentner and 5mil)
melo (RVP and cash our way)
adel taarabt 5-15mil
sneijder 20-30mil
forward:
mario gomez 30mil
benzema (chichy and 5mil)
adebayor 10-18mil
gonzalo higuain 30mil
wat do you think ed. ? it might nt be koscienly possion bt i think e could play well there any thoughs. {ed's note - I would be a bit worried about playing Koscielny out of position there myself. He might do ok at first but over time he would get found out, personally I think he should be paired with Vermaelen as your strongest pair.}
06 Jan 2011 18:44:15
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This editor is clueless. Get the old one back! Rafael better then Sagna? Marcelo and Lopez better then Clichy? haha, your so clueless its almost cute. :) {ed's note - or perhaps you are just deluded?}
06 Jan 2011 18:41:31
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Ed is just a bitter plastic Liverpool fan, he knows f all about Arsenal, Sagna 'defensively' is the best right back in Europe, yes 'offensively' he's not the best, but he's far from being average ffs, how the hell can you compare him to Lennon who's a right winger for gods sake, ed you haven't got a clue mate. He was bought for like 3 million back in 2007, he's worth at least 5 or 6 times that now, and what has him being sent off got to do with his performance you mug? The only right back who is overall better then him imo is maybe Lahm. Maicon and Alves are not defensively good enough. Rafael is still unproven and lacks consistency to even be named amongst the the right backs I just mentioned. Ivanovic is good but he looks like a centre back playing right back. and in terms of left backs other then Evra and Cashley Cole (who's the best imo) name me a better overall left back then Clichy? Also name me a team that has better 2nd choice right and left backs in Gibbs and Eboue? You would chop your hands off for these players ed and you know it. .Johnson and Konchesky? nice one mate
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ha HA pmsl best full back indeed i think you are as dillusional as Wenger!
i seem to remember a certain 2 wingers by the names of Bale and Lennon terrorising them both in the second half at the Emirates! 2-0 and you FU* ED IT UP!
YID ARMY! !
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Couldn't do f all against Everton though could they? Where are you in the table? Was that your first win at our ground in 17 years? Has it really been 50 years since you last won the league? haha, nice try though. ;)
I'M ARSENAL TILL I DIE!
06 Jan 2011 18:36:00
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Ed if marcelo is better then clichy, then please tell me why are real madrid trying to replace him with clichy? haha and lopez and capdevilla are average, the left back position is the only weak link in the spanish national team and even they know that, your blind ed! {ed's note - in my opinion both Lopez and Capdevila are much better players and would suit Arsenal better as well.}
06 Jan 2011 18:19:41
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Never wrote on this before but felt compelled, all you deluded fans who think our full backs are brilliant must be seein something I don't, I am nervous everytime a player goes near Clichy, he can't tackle, cross, header and he is always out of position, you lot talk like your about 12 years old for god sake, the only thing that annoys me more then that, are the " fans" that think wenger should go I mean where's the gratitude, everything we have now is down to him. . Everything, tell me who would replace him, look at the big picture, our team is between the ages of19- 23 (average) in 3-4 years that same team I believe will dominate world football, maybe. . Maybe even be better then the invincibles, there is just a few lose ends to tie up.
P.s stop making up all this s* t about who we are gonna buy and how much they are gonna cost and who we are gonna sell. . Arshavin, 19 million, I hope u ment rubels. . You lunch, laughable
Xx
06 Jan 2011 18:06:18
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I Like the new Ed. liverpool fan or not, he knows his stuff and is bang on the money about Sagna being the best of a bad bunch, for over a year now I've thought Gibbs is better than Clichy and his point is quite valid. anyway as an Arsenal fan, I'd love to see a new RB & CB. but we know Wenger won't put his hand in his pocket. . i wonder if he had the chance to sign Messi for £25m, wether or not he would. i belive he would say no thanks as it would "disrupt" the team he's building. the same team that will be broken up the moment a half decent European team comes in and offers a few quid to pay the mortgage. while i agree it would be the greatest achievment for him to win the league against "rich" opposition with a youth policy its not gonna happen. now is the time to invest in something Wenger can't nurture. Defenders. evreyone that comes through is attack minded and can't defend to save their lives. speculate to accumilate. ed please put this in the rumours section for feedback
06 Jan 2011 17:39:30
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06 Jan 2011 15:50:55
Ed is just a bitter plastic Liverpool fan, he knows f all about Arsenal, Sagna 'defensively' is the best right back in Europe, yes 'offensively' he's not the best, but he's far from being average ffs, how the hell can you compare him to Lennon who's a right winger for gods sake, ed you haven't got a clue mate. He was bought for like 3 million back in 2007, he's worth at least 5 or 6 times that now, and what has him being sent off got to do with his performance you mug? The only right back who is overall better then him imo is maybe Lahm. Maicon and Alves are not defensively good enough. Rafael is still unproven and lacks consistency to even be named amongst the the right backs I just mentioned. Ivanovic is good but he looks like a centre back playing right back. and in terms of left backs other then Evra and Cashley Cole (who's the best imo) name me a better overall left back then Clichy? Also name me a team that has better 2nd choice right and left backs in Gibbs and Eboue? You would chop your hands off for these players ed and you know it. .Johnson and Konchesky? nice one mate
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ha HA pmsl best full back indeed i think you are as dillusional as Wenger!
i seem to remember a certain 2 wingers by the names of Bale and Lennon terrorising them both in the second half at the Emirates! 2-0 and you FU* ED IT UP!
YID ARMY! ! !
06 Jan 2011 17:37:38
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In some ways i agree with the editor. Gibbs is better than Clichy and Sagna was a bit of an idiot last night after trying to head but Zabaleta. This is from an Arsenal Fan
06 Jan 2011 17:25:16
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Ed you know nothing about arsenal saying that you know nothing about football.
06 Jan 2011 15:50:55
Ed is just a bitter plastic Liverpool fan, he knows f all about Arsenal, Sagna 'defensively' is the best right back in Europe, yes 'offensively' he's not the best, but he's far from being average ffs, how the hell can you compare him to Lennon who's a right winger for gods sake, ed you haven't got a clue mate. He was bought for like 3 million back in 2007, he's worth at least 5 or 6 times that now, and what has him being sent off got to do with his performance you mug? The only right back who is overall better then him imo is maybe Lahm. Maicon and Alves are not defensively good enough. Rafael is still unproven and lacks consistency to even be named amongst the the right backs I just mentioned. Ivanovic is good but he looks like a centre back playing right back. and in terms of left backs other then Evra and Cashley Cole (who's the best imo) name me a better overall left back then Clichy? Also name me a team that has better 2nd choice right and left backs in Gibbs and Eboue? You would chop your hands off for these players ed and you know it. .Johnson and Konchesky? nice one mate haha ;) {ed's note - you know nothing about me, but clearly you know more about me than you do about football. Never heard of Marcelo? Or any of the Spanish left backs such as the one at Atletico? Didn't think so or you would know they are much better than Clichy. Come back when you have learnt about football and aren't just bitter because someone is daring to tell you the truth about your players. If you had better full backs you would be walking away with the league right now with your midfield.}
06 Jan 2011 13:31:34
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Nick your a clown!
"almunia- 2 mil
Squillaci - 4 mil
Fabregas - 48 mil (i don't want him to leave, although if he does)
Van persie - 28 mil (maybe)
Arshavin - 19 mil
Bendtner - 12 mil
Denilson - 11 mil
Diaby - 12 mil
Rocisky - honda swap"
Nobody would pay those prices for them players, except for fabregas and maybe van persie.
Too many arsenal fans living in dreamland. We're blessed to have such a good chance to win the league cup. Other than that we won't win a thing. We're a team of bottlers. Always will be under Wenger, he has to go.
Have to agree with the editor on the full backs. Sagna is solid at the back but offers nothing going forward. You no nothing is going to happen every time himself and walcott link up on the right. Clichy is a mistake waiting to happen and has a woeful final ball.
Need a new keeper,
Two new full backs (hopefully Gibbs will turn out to be good enough but is very injury prone),
A new centre half,
A winger (nasri, arshavin and walcott not as effective in wide positions)
And a striker (Van persie is too injury prone and Chamack is average.)
06 Jan 2011 13:07:47
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It looks like SAMBA is not going to be available mcuh longer as one bookmaker has slashed his odds to 1/5 to sign for Aston Villa so looks like another potential signing is going begging.
06 Jan 2011 12:42:00
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To ED (Sagna is just not good enough, he is like Lennon at Spurs, he gives no end product and is a weak link. To say he played well last night is the height of stupidity, how difficult is it for a defender to have a good game against a team that makes no attempt to attack?)
Did you see the game last night mate? Man City didn't park the bus in front of the goal, they were holding tight but ready to break. They have an amazing squad, Toure, Tevez, Adam johnson, etc. Arsenal defended brilliantly. You are showing your lack of knowledge mate. As for Rafael over Sagna, you are so wrong there its laughable. Even as an Arsenal fan i can appreciate Lennon is far better than Rafael. as for your debating techniques, you could do with some practice. Resorting to calling someone stupid becuase you don't agree with them is the action of a child. {ed's note - no your reading skills are lacking, I said his point was stupid. You blinkered fans are a waste of time debating with anyway, you think Lennon is better than Rafael for instance. In what way can you compare them as right backs when Lennon is a right winger? Arsenal defended brilliantly? Are you sure about that? Because if so you need to go and watch some football under George Graham and learn a little about positional play and then you will see that you only have one defender with any knowledge of it and he is out injured.}
06 Jan 2011 12:05:53
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Clichy is better than gibbs obv or he wouldn't play 1st team football even if gibbs wasnt injured! and sagna is a class above most defenders. . ed you know nothing mate {ed's note - if you say so, or perhaps it could be that I am not a blinkered fan and can look at it objectively?}
06 Jan 2011 12:03:35
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Clichy and sagna are both world class! vermalen and djourou how ever you spell it lol. .are class two! just are cover defenders are not good enough!
06 Jan 2011 11:59:09
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Ed - Gibbs is still being blooded into the team. He is excellent yes, but Clichy is No.1. There is no debate on this. Yes Clichy had a few bad games but he remains No.1 none the less. Sagna had a very good game bar the sending off. This incident was trivial. He also is one of the best if not the best RB in the prem league. For fairness, you know who we support, who do you follow?
Hey Ed - did you see Sagna last night. He played very well, as he does most weeks! As for Clichy being Gibbs stand-in, that's just rubbish mate. Clichy is the No.1 left back for Arsenal. Don't quit the day job. Where's are old Editor? {ed's note - if you say so, I seem to remember Sagna getting sent off for butting Zabaleta, hardly good play was it? You clearly know nothing about your own club if you think Gibbs isn't better than Clichy and that Wenger thinks so too.})
{ed's note - there is no secret I am a Liverpool fan. But I fail to see your thinking on Sagna, he may be one of the best in the league, but there is a shortage of decent right backs in the Premier League. I would take Rafael over Sagna every single time, and that hurts to admit that with him being a United player. Sagna is just not good enough, he is like Lennon at Spurs, he gives no end product and is a weak link. To say he played well last night is the height of stupidity, how difficult is it for a defender to have a good game against a team that makes no attempt to attack? You could have played anyone at right back last night, even Glenn Johnson would have been able to look good, in fact he would have been better because at least he can provide an attacking dimension.}
06 Jan 2011 11:54:55
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Ike
With the G.K situation, Fabianski's 'emergence' means I dnt see it happening anytime soon. C.B is a big possibility with Vermaelen ruled out for another month, ill give you this 1 mate you called it. Winger=Hazard im 80% sure. But im confused as to why you want a C.F RVP is world class and seems to be finding his feet gradually?
Based on yesterday's performance? City arnt winning anything this season, and we both know that if Chelsea are considered to be out of the title race, we have no reason to fear Spurs.
All those 'Cesc should go' fans must be eating those words. We are a totally dfferent team with him in it. I truly pray that we win something just to convince him to stay or isit a forgone conclusion?
Eman.
06 Jan 2011 11:20:05
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Hi everybody, i don't actually have a rumour but here is what i think we should do to the Arsenal squad by next season:
INS :
Benzema - clichy swap + 4 mil
Hazard - 15 mil
Shwartzer - 2.5 mil (just til the keepers we have improve)
Cahill - 14 mil + vela on loan
Shweinsteiger - 29 mil (if fabregas goes)
Honda - Rocisky swap
total cost from ins: 64.5 mil
OUTS :
almunia- 2 mil
Squillaci - 4 mil
Fabregas - 48 mil (i don't want him to leave, although if he does)
Van persie - 28 mil (maybe)
Arshavin - 19 mil
Bendtner - 12 mil
Denilson - 11 mil
Diaby - 12 mil
Rocisky - honda swap
total profit from outs: 136 mil
overall profit: 71.5 mil (thats alot of money that we can keep for a rainy day)
team next season (if fabregas goes):
Shwartzer
Sagna
Cahill
Vermaelen
Gibbs
Song
Shweinsteiger
Wilshere
Nasri
Walcott/hazard
Benzema
subs: fabianski, koscielny/djourou, honda, ramsey, eboue, JET, chamakh
This squad i suggested is efficient with great youth and i think with this squad we can hit the ground running with the new season and take us all the way. Click beleiveable if you think the squad i suggested could win the league, and click unbeleivable if not.
Nick
06 Jan 2011 11:05:14
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Hey Ed - did you see Sagna last night. He played very well, as he does most weeks! As for Clichy being Gibbs stand-in, that's just rubbish mate. Clichy is the No.1 left back for Arsenal. Don't quit the day job. Where's are old Editor? {ed's note - if you say so, I seem to remember Sagna getting sent off for butting Zabaleta, hardly good play was it? You clearly know nothing about your own club if you think Gibbs isn't better than Clichy and that Wenger thinks so too.}