Arsenal Rumours Archive May 07 2012

07 May 2012 20:55:33
I think song may be the player Wenger will use to really balance the books up, as is his style, if we are going to make 2-3 more quality signings. He would be 15 mil ish and I won't lose any sleep if he goes as m' villa(hope), coq, arteta, frimpong have the cdm covered. Our deadwood won't fetch enough money and May not find buyers so song will be collateral damage this window. Thoughts? Ricky the sg

On the whole Song done well this season just don't understand these posts.

Song has been one of our most creative and consistent midfielders this season. The guys absolute class and is one of the reasons we've pulled through this season

If mvilla does come I can see song possibly being pushed into the CAM role at times - the only thing song needs to start doing is scoring. If there's one person in the squad who deserves a few goals it's Song - please tell me I'm wrong with this!? You can't possibly disagree

EMG {Ed027's Note - They really are idiots, he has 10 assists this season in the league, 4 off David Silva who is top

Song has been one of our most creative and consistent midfielders this season. The guys absolute class and is one of the reasons we've pulled through this season

If mvilla does come I can see song possibly being pushed into the CAM role at times - the only thing song needs to start doing is scoring. If there's one person in the squad who deserves a few goals it's Song - please tell me I'm wrong with this!? You can't possibly disagree

EMG

Song has been one of our most creative and consistent midfielders this season. The guys absolute class and is one of the reasons we've pulled through this season

If mvilla does come I can see song possibly being pushed into the CAM role at times - the only thing song needs to start doing is scoring. If there's one person in the squad who deserves a few goals it's Song - please tell me I'm wrong with this!? You can't possibly disagree

EMG

The Poster Thinks Hell Be Sold To Make Money?

Song has been one of our most creative and consistent midfielders this season. The guys absolute class and is one of the reasons we've pulled through this season

If mvilla does come I can see song possibly being pushed into the CAM role at times - the only thing song needs to start doing is scoring. If there's one person in the squad who deserves a few goals it's Song - please tell me I'm wrong with this!? You can't possibly disagree

EMG

Apologies for the same post over an over. Think my phones playing up

EMG

This is simply hilarious. Have you not watched the countless world class assists song has played for RVP. you should actually watch the games i think

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Quality

IMO Song has been arguably our best player, or a close 2nd to RVP. I would be devastated if he wasn't at Arsenal next year!!

Nialli

Song has become a top top player over the last couple of seasons and I fear wenger will cash in too
Drakey

I don't get the sense you actually watch football whoever said we shod sell Song....maybe u prefer stats and if so you would see that Song's number are quitecgood and has been our most versatile player...I like mvil a but he is as yet unproven in the EPL....so why sell Song?
Sounds like drivel to me IMO

Song is the best defensive midfielder in the world you are an person to part with him

Trini Gooner

I'm sorry, saying Song has been one of our most creative midfielders may be true but its also exactly why our defensive record is so poor. He is a DEFENSIVE midfielder yet other than the Dortmund game in Dortmund, I can't remember a match where he consistently focused on being playing in his intended role. He has 10 assists and wonderful assists for the most part but he loses possession as much as any other player and focuses far too little of his attention on his intended duty which is to be a DEFENSIVE midfielder...ya know the one that sits just in front of our back four. If his position was CAM I would be over the moon about his contributions (and honestly, Im happy for his success and contributions anyway) but the key to our defensive woes is not that our defenders are poor, its that we have no player focusing on CDM. We get all 3 midfielders caught upfield and our fullbacks caught upfield and then we are outnumbered on the break. When Arteta plays he can cover for Song but Song's job is CDM not CAM...

I agree to an extent what he is saying , when we were 3-2 up to Norwich he should have protected the defence but instead went to far forward. Think we need a back up gk as Schez on occasions has let in soft goals, 1st one against Norwich being a prime example. {Ed025's Note - for me, there is too big a gap between the defence and midfield, a real DM is needed to bridge the gap..

Try watching the games either by attending or TV but don't watch either by final score or other stupid rumours put on here

I see everyones point, but unfortunately have to agree slightly with the original poster. If we were to sign a top quality CDM think how much that would shore up our defensive work. And whilst we have still had a relatively up and down season, we cant continually rely on scoring more goals than the opposition to get our results. We need to stop letting silly goals in, especially on the break. Song in the CDM position does us no favours as he doesnt sit and distribute from the back, he pushes forward, exposing our defense to the quick break. I'm not going to doubt that as a box to box midfielder song would be great but in the CDM position i fear he could easily be culperable for as many oppo goals as the number of assists he has given this season. If we got M'Vila i dont see where Song fits in. Young Jack, Arteta, Rosicky (been great this half of the season) all pip him IMO for the other midfield spots. Plus i would still love to see us revert to a 4-4-2 RVP and Podolski partnership could be awesome, sign one true winger (overmars stylee) and we would have an amazing team. I apologise if some of this is just rambling on but everyone has an opinion, dont critiscise people for having them, try to understand the reasoning behind them. The original poster wasnt doubting songs attacking credentials its the CDM position and the defensive duties that carries.

After the years of faith that Arsene has shown in Song and finally he is coming good, if he was sold and had a similar amount of assists you would be the first to say 'we sell our players just when they come good'

Great player needs to be kept but also needs competition for his place.

In Arsene I Trust.

Years of faith yes, but this is the same years of faith wenger has shown in Denilson, Bendtner, (the years he showed for Almunia, Cygan, Nelson Vivas) We all know he shows faith in players sometimes warrented sometimes not. But the fact is that if Song is really that good as the CDM why are there even rumours going around for M'Vila? NOBODY is disputing that Song is a good player, just not as our CDM.

Song has been the solid hard-man in midfield that a creative side that arsenal needed and hes been doing that for past few seasons now, not only is he covering a irregular back four, he is assisting, who in their right mind would want to let go of such a diverse talent. As for the M'Vila rumours, hopefully true, it is a signing not to replace song but to play along side him and in some case create more competition for spots in the midfield. Next year has to be the year fellow gooners for our long awaited title.

If M'Vila was bought, and was to play alongside Song, who are you proposing to drop? Wilshire/Arteta/Rosicky, for me Arteta has been our true rock in midfield, he doesnt do crunching tackles but his calmness and range of passing has been just what we needed this season, you can see these past few matches we have really missed him. Rosick has been probably our most creative person arguably this season, he stepped up a gear and has caused a lot of defenses trouble as well as working his butt off for the team, always working back when given the chance. Wilshire nuff said as long as he can actually get fitness back. I still think if we bought one true winger 4-4-2 (diamond) would be the way to go.

podolski --- RVP

Wilshire/Rosicky

New winger/Gerv -------- Walcott/Ox

M'Vila/Song

07 May 2012 17:49:44
Arsenal and the Transfer window. It always seems to be that the Gunners have more rumours surrounding possible signings than any other team in the Premier League.
But it also seems to be that Arsenal sign less players than any other team in the league, especially when we have the funds available to us. When we do splash the cash, in the shape of Andrey Arsharvin and Park Chu-Young, they either don™t get a start for huge amounts of time or they slowly but consistently fade out of the limelight onto the bench, making no impression when given opportunities.
But maybe it™s different now. Providing Arsene Wenger does stay at the end of this season, we may bare witness a change in his policy. Instead of signing unheard of players on frees, who take five years to develop then depart for Man City. We have of course signed Lukas Podolski, for around 10 million, which to me looks a bargain and we are expectant.
But now onto the main issue of this blog “ why we should not sign prolific American forward, Clint Dempsey.
The rumours surrounding his possible move to The Emirates over recent months have been regular and many see his form and proven goal-scoring capability in the Premier League as a very good reason to sign him. With 23 goals so far this season, Dempsey is in the best form of his career.
So why shouldn™t we sign him? One reason is that although he has been brilliant this season for Fulham his overall record in the English top flight hasn™t been top class. In fact, he only scores on average 0.29 goals per game for Fulham, compared to Lukas Podolski™s 0.46, for a relegated side, and Emmanuel Adebayor™s 0.36. Surely we don™t want to splash out on a player who scores less than an ex-Arsenal loanee?
Dempsey has only scored 48 goals in 180 appearances for Fulham; this is over six seasons, which is not that great in my opinion
Another reason why Dempsey isn™t the right man for Arsenal is his age. At 29-years-old, he is hardly a player that is going to grow and get better with time. He will have passed his prime by 30 and I cannot see him scoring many. As a striker his fitness will only deteriorate. I™m not Wenger and neither do I agree that we should always sign very young players, but this is pushing it. He certainly won™t be coming in cheap either. I™d rather Wenger invest in Yann M™Vila and get about 10 years of football out of the young Frenchman.
The final reason we shouldn™t sign Dempsey links to my first point. Although this season has seen the American score many goals, he is the only real forward at Fulham with over double the second top scorers and quadruple the third top scorers totalled. He is the channel for all of Fulham™s attacks. Everything at goal goes through him so you can only expect somebody half decent to claim a larger goal tally than a striker for a team who have several options. He also has the third highest amount of appearances at the club after Danny Murphy and Brede Hangeland with 45. Talk about resting players in the easy games.

U jus stole dis from a website!

Why regurgitate lazily the post of someone else(unless you are the author)...this was in gunner sphere's blog

Es

Robin's record for arsenal isnt exactly stellar, but the point of signing dempsey would be he is in the same form that rvp is. they are on immense goal scoring runs. Dempsey has reached his prime and id certainly roll in with a cheeky 8-10mil bid and lay a 3yr contract out

It was me that posted this now if i wanted to make out i made it i would have changed all the first letters but to the point i do like dempsey i think he's a good player but i also think hea a big fish in a small pond.

Dempsey has played most his career as a midfielder , even this season he has played mostly as a midfielder with the odd game up front

Robins Record Is Very Good Every Season He Would Get Around 15 Goal A Season With Injury.

I'd have Dempsey but as a attacking midfielder

If we are looking at medeocre players like dempsey we really are in trouble i know big names cost big money but put a bloody bid in anyway you never know what might happen get you cash out arsenal and spend accordingly i believe we need a propper dm as song does not get back at all the commitment of our deffenders has not been good exept for koscielny who is deffo my arsenal player of the season i have never seen a cb make up ground so fast and get the tackle in 99% of the time

Can't get my head around your logic mate, I would welcome Dempsey to Arsenal. RVP, Podolski and Dempsey Sounds pretty potent to me. So what if he is 29, he is banging in the goals, thats what counts. He is used to the EPL, I don't know where the guy lives, He may not have to move house. We have more possesion and create more chances than Fulham. If he netted 20 times for us next season that would be amazing.
Mark

But he's a midfielder isnt he? He is NOT a forward. I think 48 goals is good for a midfielder.

Also you havent stated him assists. Surely this will be fairly good.

He would provide amo for RVP and Poldo. Which i think would be class.

Arsenal are missing a decent attacking central midfielder with an eye for goal.

I disagree with you, and think he would be a great signing.

Cammy out!

xxx

Dempsey's form makes him a good buy, but the real attraction is his effectiveness on the left in Fulham's system. He offers height and scores goals coming in from the left, while being a decent dribbler and a fairly proficient user of the ball. I think he'd offer about the same option as Benayoun does this season, but with Poldi coming in and Gervinho still not really finding a place I don't think Wenger would pay over 7 or 8 mil to buy what he only saw fit to bring in on loan this season.

Okay, firstly a player in the old days hit his prime at 27 and that would usually last till he was 32-33. Now with the diets, training programs and the general healthier lifestyle of players they seem to be lasting a bit longer than they use to.
Secondly Dempsey until this year played in midfield for Fulham not Manchester City or Tottenham so comparing his scoring record proves nothing but, how little you know about the subject which you are talking about.
Thirdly Dempsey would jump and the chance to play for Arsenal with pride and give 110%. He also speaks English, which anybody who plays or played a decent level of football at Sunday/Saturday league knows being able to be communicate on the pitch is vital and Arsenal is in England so it should be English spoken on the pitch.
Madrid or Barca don't allow player to speak any other language but Spanish on the pitch of press conferences.

Galway Gooner

Yes Cammy he is an attacking midfielder

Dempsey is a scrapper who gets the goals, we need him and he will do well for atleast 2 more years. We need some experience .

Ash

07 May 2012 17:09:40
Ed any chance of us having a look at Burak Yilmaz? {Ed002's Note - Burak Yilmaz has attracted interest from Sevilla, Fulham, Beyer Leverkusen and Newcastle.}

07 May 2012 16:52:11
@youaremyarsenal has been giving the news since morning that M'vila deal has been done(4 yr deal- price range: 18 mil), will be announced a few days after WBA game.
The twitter source mentioned above is quite reliable(not Perez...lolz), confirmed it from a number of other bloggers, but it is better to stay grounded until it becomes official. Not so sure abt Vertonghen though, he might go to sp**s....

--sLy

I hope dis to be true, 18mil beast will break up plays and protect the much needed back 4!

07 May 2012 16:22:53
its saying on shezza's facebook page that yann mvila is trending on twitter and he will be signed by arsenal and it to be announced after west brom match, could be bulls**t but im just writing what i saw

belfastgooner

07 May 2012 16:16:22
I for one would consider this summer (your summer is Australia's winter) a success if we were to get Podolski,M'Vila and Vertonghen and if we manage to resign RVP,Walcott and Song. We can always buy players in the January transfer window if need be.

Sydney Gooner

I totally understand the entire concept of keeping our best players. I do. It makes sense. But to keep our 'best players' now after all these years of letting much better ones go is just so stupid. Theo Walcott is a shockingly unreliable player who costs us chance after chance to take games to the other team. Alex Song has costs us many games this season. So has Ramsey. None of those players have ever been consistent enough. 2 summers ago people wanted Song to go. Last season he had a pretty great season and last summer slightly less wanted him gone. If you take away his assists this year, compared with last season he has been absolutely atrocious. However, he has a high value. These are the types of players we need to sell if we are to challenge. If you compiled a list of the players who have regularly cost us points if not games this season it would look something like this:

Theo
Ramsey
Song
Chamakh
Arshavin
Diaby

Yet people go on about keeping those players. It makes no sense. yes we have sold and sold and it infuriates but that doesn't mean now is the time to hang on to all the guys costing us points.

If we sold Theo, Song and Ramsey this summer we could get in the region of £50m. But of course selling our 'best players' is sacrilege regardless of the fact they're shyte.

Very rare Wenger buys big in January
Only Arshavin springs to mind
We signed Eisfeld this Jan

We never buy in january

07 May 2012 16:08:46
Deal for Yann MVilla agreed, to be announced soon after the West Brom game; and by soon after I mean a couple of days not hours.

AYoungGunner

@ AYoungGunner

Wear did you hear that m'vila deal is agreed ?

Thank god, now hopefully well stop losing two and three goal leads.

I got this from someone on twitter (i know what you are thinking- its b******t) but this guy was right about the podolski and gervinho signings so i am very confident on this one, chose to believe it or not, this is a rumours site and thats what i posted.
AYoungGunner

Arsenal play WBA in more than a few days

His dad told him

"Arsenal play WBA in more than a few days"
I think you need to learn to read, i never said before the west brom game i said after the west brom game
AYoungGunner

07 May 2012 15:48:15
Eds is there a chance that we could get Udinese's Mauricio Isla? He looks like the perfect utility player.

Sydney Gooner {Ed002's Note - There is no interest that I know of from Arsenal. Although there has been interest from Liverpool, the player has suffered a serious so he will need to prove his fitness and will not be playing again this season. Chelsea, Roma, Napoli and PSG are other possibilities for the player, but I suspect Inter may strike a deal including a couple of youngsters going on loan or part ownership to Udinese.}

07 May 2012 15:36:48
Why do Arsenal not go for Dembele and Fellaini, two great players who will do well at Arsenal, get rid of Ramsey and Gervihno and go for a top CB. No need for Hazard or Mvila, big price tags and huge wages for players who will probably leave for Madrid after a few years with the gunners.

I don't agree as one of the Ed's said recently the Dembele knee's are living on borrowed time.

Fellaini would probably cost the exact same as m'villa, roughly £22 million or so

07 May 2012 15:10:16
Any one seen the new arsenal target video quite funny looks like Walcott is better at pingpong then football RVP was bang on target also good to see jack back in a kit hopefully not long now
Dan

07 May 2012 10:09:24
Hi Ed
Is Frank de Boar just driving up the price on Vertoghen
he admitted back at start of April that it was already a done deal with Arsenal. He then stated that's the club he should join.
Now he's saying it about any club who's mentioned to Vertonghen.

I'm sure were still favourites to land him and expect an announcement this week or next about what club he's joining. {Ed002's Note - No. When a player is available any number of clubs may enquire and bid.}

07 May 2012 09:15:02
Ed - do you think there is any genuine interest from arsenal in clint dempsey?if we are moving chamakh and park on he would be a top class signing in my opinion.very versatile,knows the league and has a great attitude. {Ed002's Note - I am told that Dempsey will come up for sale there will certainly be interest from Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and a couple of German sides. Age and cost has to be a consideration of course.}

Harry would love him at spuds and its his type of signing

07 May 2012 07:31:58
City to offer RVP 250k/week? As a die hard gooner i hope he signs a new deal, but I fear that he might leave. Is RVP gping really the end of the road for Arsenal?

If RvP did leave, it sure as hell wouldn't be to another Premier League team. My guess would be Barca, but we have no idea what Tito's transfer policy will be. I can't see him moving to Juventus or Madrid & Germany wouldn't suit him.

So, I unless Barca come in with an amazing offer and he doesn't sign a new deal. He's ours.

Barca have already stated there not interested.
Real most likely

07 May 2012 01:46:21
Dempsey scores again...23rd of the season. Really starting to think he would be a great buy for the CAM position. not bad having him and Rosicky rotating. Still would prefer belhanda but Dempsey would be a great second choice.

Marty