Arsenal Rumours Archive September 07 2011

 

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07 Sep 2011 15:46:00
{Ed007's Note - Guys, can I draw your attention to a charity that has been set up in memory of the late Tommy Burns (ex CFC player, manager and coach) who died in 2008.. It's aim is to build a cancer research lab that will carry his name. The location of it is in a cancer hospital called Beatsons in Glasgow, where all the staff helped my family, and my own father throughout his illness with all their great work. All you have to do is text TOMMY to 70099 to donate £1. All help is greatly appreciated.

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Believable7 Unbelievable11

Consider it done Mate!

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Good luck with that Ed. A worthy cause. My dad passed away three months ago due to the same thing.

TopLondoner

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Done.
K1ck

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Why have people disagreed post, ungrateful s**ts

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Thank you for texting to Tommy burns cancer appeal, good luck for the season and the champs league, johnbhoy Celtic fan

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07 Sep 2011 15:38:21
Im hearing really, really negative things about Mertesacker. Mostly from the Poland game. Im just hoping he was signed with a view to changing the way we defend. I mean not playing such a high line and playing a bit more deeper with Song holding more.
If we play a high line, his weaknesses will be exposed I reckon. It'll be interesting to see what hes like properly on Saturday
Eman.

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Trust me he is a mistake. We should have bitten the bullet and signed both Cahill & Samba.

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I agree with you about mertesacker,i have seen him play many times since he was connected to arsenal.I watched him play against England in the world cup and at half time they were all saying that he was germanys weak link as he was very slow.Also he gets outjumped by much smaller players.He was the one player that i was dreading coming to arsenal.After a few games when he has made several mistakes i bet wenger says that he did not see it!

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Love the way we cry out for experienced world class players to replace Cesc, and some quality defenders, and instead we get 1 ex-world class defender who nobody wanted and everyone feared we'd get. We don't need this magical 'experince' at the back, we need quality uber alles, because quality players will in turn appear experienced beyond their years. What is the point of spending any money on an experienced player if they suck? We play a very high line so if P Mer is slow then we will be no stronger in defence than last season.

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I said 2 months ago that I didn't want us to sign him, he has the turning circle of an oil tanker & will get found out in the prem. Panic buy.....

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Haha i remember that oil tanker comment

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Yes, because crap players at international level are crap players at club level

Example: Lionel Messi

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Brilliant arguement of last guy, (how can I make him look good, I know ill use the name messi and put a good spin on it) he's going to be our weak link fact!

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Let's get one thing straight. You don't get 76 caps for one of the world's leading football nations by the age of 26 and have such a weakness in your game.
Please trust Arsene and this a chance beofre making such negative comments.

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Let's not crucify Mertasaker before he has even kicked a ball for us. Yes we play a high line which can expose a slower less mobile defender but a high line can expose any defender no matter how fast or mobile. Playing a high line requires good defensive organisation and to move as Unit it also requires good pressure on the ball from the midfielders. It™s about the team as a whole defending better.

Arsenal will always be venerable defensively simply because of this high line we play. We sacrifice the safety of men deep behind the ball in order to make us more potent in attack and to gain more possession higher up the field so it is a balancing act.

I am hoping that his experience reading of the game and leadership qualities will outweigh his lack of pure pace and get us defending better as a unit. He should be decent in the air and will also help us defending set pieces. He certainly cannot be worse than Sqallachi or Djouro so it is an improvement there. Yes he did not have a great game for Germany against Poland but I think he is a bit short on 100% match fitness, which he will need to find quickly for us. I think it may take him little while to get used to the pace of The EPL but once he settles he will turn out to be a good defender for us.

Pace is not everything is it look at Clichy loads of pace but quite a poor defender. I think when your quick you tend to rely on that pace too much in my opinion instead of learning to read the game better. There are plenty of good defenders out here that are not particularly quick.

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You heard or watched the Poland Game?

I watched it... Was there in fact. He Captained the side, did brilliantly and neither of their 2 goals had anything to do w/ him.

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I have just read an article with the heading horror show by mertesaker.This was in the poland v germany game last nite.I have seen him several times and believe me he is just as bad as squilacci.

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To the guy that said "brilliant arguement:" You've obviously never seen football then.

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Give the man a chance,for all we know the bloke could be a hero in a few weeks time.Until he has played a few games,we won't really know.A lot of players play better for their clubs than they do on international duty for their country.

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Yeah, I mean his club only let in 61 goals in the league last year!
AG

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Henry had a poor scoring record before joining arsenal... so the amount his team let in dose'nt mean he won't do well.

connor

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Maybe but tell you Sunday

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07 Sep 2011 02:56:52
ramsey is not good enough for arsenal...end of!!

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He doesnt look the same player, after his broken leg.

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What he was MoM yesterday forget rooney young bale lampard he was MoM for a reason

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Ramsey is good enough for Arsenal......... End Of

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I agree with this sadly.
Raz

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Your all idiots ramsey will be world class and was mom last night.

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Woolwich Gooner
Qualty player. Quality on the ball. Never gave up against Man utd. With 'Teta, 'pong and 'shire they will shine brightly.

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Each to their won opinion mate. Ramsey was one of our worst players against Liverpool when they were offering nothing, yet he stands out against Man U when we're going down badly, and this seems to happen a lot. He gets phased out of games where he shouldn't, for no reason. And like I say, there has been no improvement on this since he came back. So while you may think I know nothing about football because I don't rate one of our kids as highly as the rest of the world, at least I can say why.

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P.s. you'll call me out but not the poster? That makes you a massive nob. We each have opinions and you'll find that responses like that get you nowhere in life. I have my reasons why I think he's overrated, it is subjective, so while I respect anyone who says they rate Ramsey, I will disagree without trying to make them look stupid. And what I now about football has nothing to do with what I think of Ramsey. God, people like you really pi$$ me off and yet you'd probably only do it from the safety of your keyboard.
Raz

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Give the boy some time people. I think its still too early to say if he's good enough or not. Just come back from a broken leg and played a few games. Was ok in all but did get phased out of some. He will hopefully be more prominant as he get s more match time....

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I notice you said Ramsey aint good enough,, so that means Diaby is? Rosicky is? Coquelin is? Eastmond is??

Why you singling out the best of those 4!!! Why Ramsey?

Are you an annoyed Wales fan?

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Rosicky is barely good enough, Diaby, well we may never know, Eastmond deffo isn't good enough, Coquelin is nowhere near ready to assess for quality yet.

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COBBLERS-GOONER..... jealous yod posting again.......... Be quiet you foolm Rambo is going to be World Class in a few years

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Season is barely 3 games in..he will take time to take over cesc role...will be a sub this season and hopefully will fit in by the new year.

Him and wilshere will be the future of arsenal...who has more potential than him?

which midfield player from the top 4 teams is better than ramsey and wilshere in the midfield? give them time and they will dominate...

we have sorted our defense for this season...our attack will come together once suspensions are done...for me by next year ramsey, wilshere will be the new duo...the duo that stays...

Arsenal have a very good chance to get goetze and hazard if we keep our top 4 spot...from there its nothing but up...

we have hit rock bottom right now...but even then it looks good...have faith...and support your team..

im not asking you to support diaby...but coming back from that leg break itself deserves our respect..remember hes only 21.

we may not have a player as good as cesc or thierry or bergkamp for awhile...but better than nasri, pires for sure.

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There are several better than Ramsey, and virtually none better than Wilshere.

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Ramsey is class act and needs to get going again but this will take time that leg break was a bad one before that he was coming on leaps and bounds eastmond is not ready yet but is a good little player

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Yeah! stay in yer kitchen Ramsey

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Well anon, the difference between you and me is that I don't think anyone is a 'person' for their own opinion. I completely understand why you feel like that. The fact that you have to put someone else down to get your own point across means you're a tw4t though, pretty simple. You don't have to slate someone to say 'I disagree'. Go and watch the Liverpool highlights and watch Ramsey's performance, and that completely backs up what I feel. So it isn't about one of us being wrong, or knowing nothing, it's about accepting that not every thinks the same thing, and not being a pr1ck when that situation arises. Everyone else on here is capable of saying 'I disagree, fair enough but I don't feel the same, yeah but go and watch this and it may change your mind', etc etc, you should learn from them.

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Ramsey will be good enough given the chance, although he is probably in the first team earlier than Wenger or anyone else would have hoped. Whilst performances so far this year have been disapointing, Rosicky is making Ramsey look amazing!

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So you are saying Ramsey isn't very good and citing one game as an example. Does that mean that van persie isn't any good coz he missed a penalty or that sagna is a bad player coz he was a bit inconsistent in parts last season. One game isn't a valid argument and ramsey will be a class act very soon

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That is the most dumbass opinion I have ever read. Ramsey will become a legend! Can't believe that some idiots even agreed!

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PMSL @ The lot of you falling for what is CLEARLY a "WUM" comment to rile up AFC fans.

... You're proving those saying things about our intelligence correct.

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Everyone is forgetting that he hasnt even had a full season yet! he was in and out for about 12-15 games before he broke his leg. came back at the end of last season, only hoy a few chances and obviously it takes a long time to recover even when fully fit after an injury like that. you need to judge his progress after hes had a full season of regular game time. it takes a couple of seasons to start getting near your potential. look at messi ,17yo great talent was nowhere near as effective as he is now but had a couple of seasons and starting setting spanish league on fire. and before anyone says it, im not comparing him to messi at all, im simpley sayin talent takes a while to develop

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No, one game does not totally justify an opinion. But it EXEMPLIFIES it. Do you think you can get your head round that? In exactly the same way someone else on here was going 'LMFAO Ramsey is good enough, didn't you see him against Man U last season??' LAST SEASON, ONE GAME. So I could say the same thing as all you, but I understand the point so I wont be that fecking petty. Arshavin, every now an then, has a great game, that doesn't mean people want him in the team all the time does it? No, because he doesn't maintain it. He is a fantastic player on occasion but I haven't seent hat since we beat Villa at the start of last season when he and Nasri got goals. People were saying 'who cares if Nasri goes, he's only given us half a good season' - it isn't about how good a player is, because Nasri is amazing, it is about how consistent they are. And the only true judge of quality is therefore consistency. Fact. Example - David Ngog - he has some quality there, but Liverpool so rarely see it, therefore they think he is pants. Understand? Same as Chamakh. Same as Bendtner. I have seen Ramsey have just as many poor games as good ones. When he has a good game he is excellent. I see that. When he has a poor game 1) he lets the whole team down because he plays a role upon which our creativity hinges, LIKE THE LIVERPOOL GAME, as does Arshavin, who people are quite happy to slate, and 2) Nobody seems to mind. The lad gets paid a fortune, he is a top top professional, so I don't care if he's 18 or 30, if he is at that standard then I expect him to maintain it, or else I feel he isn't good enough YET.
People say he is still coming back from injury - correction, he came back in November, has played over 20 club games and a handful of internationals. The stupid thing is my argument has been that he is a good player but that he is OVERRATED, and isn't ready to start for us, not that he's crap, or wont be ready, but some of you just like to read one thing and fill your time making it sound the way you want to so you can give someone you don't know some sh1t. So don't give me sh1t for my opinion. If you think the sun shines out of his 4rse then that's because you have rose tinters on, but also because you probably have seen the good games and are happy to write off the poor games, which, at this level, he cannot afford to have. All I have ever said is that he is not at the standard that our first team should be yet, not that he won't ever be, or that he doesn't possess quality. And all people say in response 'OMG are you serious, in a few years time he and Wilshere will rule the midfield' bla bla bla, which ironically completely backs up my point. IN A FEW YEARS, which I agree with. That means he is not ready now, doesn't it? For me, players like Silva, Wilshere, Arteta, Nani, THEY are the first team standard. Not Ramsey. So if you don't like my opinion that's fine, but don't slate me for it you 'people', Jesus Christ.
Just accept that fact that whatever 'clever', snide, or nasty things you say to me, I will not change my opinion due to anything other than Ramsey finding consistency. It's this exact kind of bias that I am getting from some of you that is the problem with our parental manager who simply won't get tough with the team. If AW was more cutthroat, IMO he should be for the benefit of our club, then Rosicky, Arshavin, Chamakh, Djourou, Squillaci, Traore, would have been sold the second the TF window opened because he would have known that we needed replacements and that the players coming through e.g. Ramsey are not quite ready yet.
It's been a problem since day one with AW and something that most fans are unhappy with. So, until Ramsey starts to improve, tackle back, show consistency, and not randomly disappear in games where he shouldn't (it is very unusual that he gets MoM in tough games like Wales vs England, and Arsenal vs Man U, yet he is truly shocking in others who offer nothing against us), I will not feel like is ready for a starting spot. You have no reason to put me down for that. I have justified the way I feel with a 100% OBJECTIVE argument. Just as some of you have with why you think he is ready. That's fine. I don't.

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P.s. - I honestly feel that RvP has been terrible recently, utterly terrible. He doesn't get into games, yes he has been on the end of some goals, which is great, but hardly because he did anything other than stand in the right. Lone striker is not his position, and if it weren't for those two goals I am sure people would be saying a lot more about him. But, he is NOT a lone striker. he doesn't suit that role. He is far too creative, strong, skilful and accurate with his shooting to be a lone striker getting poor service. People say don't judge Walcott until he plays CF, and I agree, and in the same sense I am not judging RvP because he isn't in his preferred role. I feel he has been poor, but I don't feel it is because he is poor, rather because he is in the wrong position, which most agree with. Ramsey is in the right position though.

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Arsenal fans ,your either slagging off your manager or your players , great manager ,good players ,great stadium ,crap fans!

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Well Ramsey is gonna be a world class player. He is the future of Arsenal, has an eye for goal too. He will be a starter, not a sub i can assure you. Mark my words.

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What a load of b****cks, put down your crack pipe mate and watch him play.

Goooooooner 4 life

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Youngest ever captain off wales, yes he is, him and wilshere will be our 2 CM for the next 10 there both amazing

Luke

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