Arsenal Rumours Archive January 08 2012

08 Jan 2012 22:56:18
Read this 'possibility' online.
Hypothetically: van persie for benzema and higuain?

How many would take it?
Eman.

Hypothetically you'd be foolish not to!
Raz

Does that make me a bad person?!

RVPis one of my all time fav players and deffo my all time fav striker, but that deal makes some sense...

You're a bad man Eman ha ha

Raz

RVP is my favourite player and i model my own game on him...also have a running joke with my boys as I always get told I look like him..I just say his left foot looks like mine
;-P....However!

I would do this deal in an instant! It would set us up for a few years and RVP is getting on a bit..I think it would be a great deal! Never gonna happen though!

Boisey

Everybody should be now (in theory) love Van Persie's left peg as much as I do. that said we have no room for emotion, and with that in mind the two options are both good:

Van Persie stays on until the end of his career GREAT no complaints.

Van Persie moves on in favour of Benzema GREAT sad seeing the lad go but this is football after all.

It doesn't make you a bad man, remember - hate the game not the player :) Higuain doesn't really do it for me the same way Benzema will and Van Persie has done for years!

In a perfect world we would have RvP and Benzema but I am just daydreaming now... Lol shame though that is exactly what the league and Arsenal need

CS

This is likely the most absurd post I've ever read. I am now dumber than I was 30 seconds ago.

But as long as bizarro rules are in effect, perhaps we can ask them to throw in di maria, ozil and and a couple penelope cruz dry humps....

US Gooner

Absurd though it may be, somebody crowed a while back we would be signing Squillacci and I was the first person shooting that rumour down in flames.

Egg. Face. On. We all weeped that day lol Arsenal is that sort of club, nobody knows anything until it happens

CS

I'm gonna go ahead and categorically guarantee this will never happen. It's likelier we bring back Sylvain Wiltord to partner Henry than any of this happening.

It's cool Arsene, I got this one...but Jeremie Aliadiere is still all your fault bud...

US Gooner

Higuain is a class striker he has 2 hattricks so far this season i think, also his positoning is amazing

2 hattricks in spain is not much to shout about there are prob a dozen players in EPL that would do just as well and better it has to be to most boring predictable league there is just like the scottish leauge there are only ever going to be 2 winners every year what is the point real and barca have easy games most weeks put them in the EPL they may do well for a while but they would get worn down after a while playing back to back hard games

I'm with US Gooner on this one! It sounds about as plausible as City winning the league did back in August.

CS

"Hi Jose, I'd like to offer you my 28 year old captain who just finished his FIRST FULL healthy calendar season at Arsenal for your 2 24 year old superstars.....cool?

If you'd like, we'll throw Bendtner in for Cristiano straight up, thx Jose..."

Oh, and Man City is not a surprise to me. Any team with Yaya, Silva and Aguero in the attack ought to be taken seriously. And when they get Cavani in about 6 mos...they'll potentially be a juggernaut

Based on summer arguments, not sure how City winning is possible as they aren't bring in English talent. Someone ought to tell them to look at Downing, Upson, Dann and company....look at Liverpool, set up to be mid table for a decade....God I love consistency

US Gooner

Ok, now I've actually read all the replies...CS, I know you're a gooner....but backing up a Higuain+Benz for RVP by using the Squillaci to Arsenal rumors is just about the dumbest thing I've ever read.

you're smarter than this, c'mon....

You had a hunch we were looking to bring in a marginal defender to make up squad numbers, and now you use that to suggest we could bring in not one, but 2 of the hottest 5 strikers on the planet for one player.....4yrs older with a shoddy fitness history

Ok, done w/ this thread...but really, this is all too absurd

US Gooner

08 Jan 2012 21:22:33
Whats going on with Arshavin and Rosicky, heard Galatasaray want them, but they are out of contract in the summer and could leave for nowt is this true?

GoonerDan {Ed007's Note - Yeah Dan they are both out of contract in the summer.}

This kind of stuff is what is giving me hope that they will be sold so we can bring new players in....

Raz

Arshavin has 18 months left on his deal! {Ed007's Note - Not according to our records. Unless he signed the one year extension that was being spoke about.}

Arshavin's contract runs out in 2013

Andrei Arshavins contract doesnt run out until the summer of 2013.
RD

Arshavin signed 4 and a half yer deal in jan 2009.....
jay

I was going to post this as I had a major argument with about 8 people on Twitter about it last Summer; but checked most online resources which say June 2012 but I see I am right and it is definitely 2013.

=Miss Arsenal.

08 Jan 2012 19:19:39
guy on ssn transfer darmish seth has just said we are interested in signing erik abidal and also kalou!
he also said that we are not sure whether to spend money now or wait until the summer for free. he says that kalou doesnt mind and either option.

hope kalou is not true. he is not what we need

I hope not too. he would be a typical wenger signing thouh. although id have abidal without a doubt.

Kalou dont even get in the chelsea team ...hope we dont get him but with wenger in charge you never no who were going get ...

Can understand wanting abidal as he is quality despite being cup tied he can play a variety of roles not sure he is the type to leave barca half way through the season and especially after the love shown with his recent illness.
if we truly went after and got kalou i would seriously rethink supporting wenger and the club. joke of a player

Abidal would be fantastic IMO. I've always rated him as a defender might as well loan him then do the deal in the Summer to bring him in for 1 or 2 years...

Gilo

Anon jog on and support someone else then...

Had same argument in summer RE: Arteta/Benayoun and looks like I won that.

Kalou isn't suited to CFC's style of play, more suited to AFC's. He's being misused (or not used at all) at the Chavs and AW would revive his career.

=Miss Arsenal.

I'd be happy with Kalou if he went on the wings. A winger who can score is fine by me...
Raz

Kalou is a decent squad player...

We need cover on the wings and Kalou is not that bad. Look at some of the goals he scored last season they were top quality.

Gilo

Kalou will be a good signing for arsenal quick two footed and not afarid to have a pop

abdul is very overated by Barca and France (also selected squid!) makes so many mistakes, teamates help him out a lot would be very exposed at arsenal with Gerv in front of him

Spanner

Spanner

Kalou is awful. Everyone on here would slag him and say why did we sign him. We are a bad club.. blah blah blah.. He is no better than Arshavin Rosicky
RD

Glad to see the unity between the fans on this sight telling each other to go and support another team if you don't like that persons opinion, is a absolute joke you should be saving your hostility for are rivals then maybe are fans will be heard on Monday over are rival fans for once COME ON THE ARSENAL

The Kalou I am familiar with is rapid, takes players on, and knows how to find the back of the net. Rosicky has some good qualities but he doesn't skin people down the flanks and can't score to save his life. Arshavin on form is better than Kalou but I don't think his form is coming back. I've always though Kalou, like Yossi, is wasted at Chelsea, would love to have him at Arsenal.
Raz

Another anon... Going and telling someone to support another team if I don't agree w/ their opinion? Did you miss their final line then?

"if we truly went after and got kalou i would seriously rethink supporting wenger and the club. joke of a player"

Exactly...

=Miss Arsenal.

Kalou for 3mill.? Bargain price...

08 Jan 2012 18:16:02
I love a good rumour as much as the next guy but these rumours are getting stupid. Constantly goetze, hazard, benzema. Talk of 30, 40m transfers. Come on guys really? We all know wenger is never going to pay that much and it gets a little boring, hearing none stop dead end rumours. Don't get me wrong I love the rumours hotting up but just tired of being disappointed. Let's try stick to more realistic deal like this suarez kid that seems more likely than us payin stupid about for someone when we all deep down no we won't.

Don't get me wrong if we ever did get goetze or hazard I'd proberly wet my self, but I'm just bored of people keep sayin we are going to buy them wen we really not. And as for wenger being great in the French market he missed a trick wit cabaye the Newcastle lad for 4m?

We don't actually talk very much about Goetze, Hazard, Benzema outside our dream teams.

I don't think there is a single person on this site that actually believes we are going to sign either one of those players...

Though there is a lot of people that come on here and tell us to stop talking about it! I'd like to see a quote from this site where someone has stated we are going to get Benzema this entire transfer window I really do because I haven't seen a single person!

Gilo

Did Le Prof not put bids of £30m for M'Villa, Hazard and Gotze on deadline day?

£22m for M'Vila
£27m for Hazard
£30m for Gotze

If I remember rightly?
Tommy P

It was:
M'Vila 15m
Hazard 23m
Gotze 25m

Ash

Wheres the proof of these "offers"??

paul - rochester

These bid had no chance it was just a smokescreen by the board to make us think that the money from the sales of fab and nas would be put back into the team

spanner

100% with Spanner we had no intention of signing a single one of those players it was blatantly simply to make it LOOK like we had, so as to appear to be trying. They knew deep down they would never sign any of the players they made these tiny bids for. 13m or something for Mata first time round and we got told to do one, same with all the above, same with Cahill, and basically everyone. Doesn't mean we were wrong necessarily, because Cahill is no way near worth anything more than about 8m max, but the point is we 'wanted' these players but wouldn't cough up.
Raz

It makes us a bit of a joke that Areta had to take a pay cut to join us,
The money us fans spend on Arsenal is lining the boards pockets, we have the most expensive tickets in Europe but get out spent by villa spuds etc etc who have not been in champs lyd or have no were near the same income as us.
It's a sad state of affairs David dein knew it and that's why he left we should protest against are greedy board
Spanner

08 Jan 2012 12:51:25
Gilo.

Yes, Henry was accommodated for CL by Mannone's loan but it doesn't factor for EPL as Mannone is HG.

There are still 17 Non-HG players in the EPL list, not inc' Henry.

=Miss Arsenal.

I have no idea then. Maybe we are going to loan/ sell one of the players in your list before next weekend then?

Gilo

Don't know if it's the answer but gervinho is off to acn by leeds game? i remember wenger saying something like that.

iceman

I have no idea but we aren't exactly going to sign Henry and then just go 'Oh wait we can't play him'...

Gilo

Yeah Ice but both he and Chamakh are listed for EPL this season.

Someone will have to actually go - To accommodate Henry.

=Miss Arsenal.

Yeah i was expecting the acn isn't the answer... squillaci is the first on my list to go

iceman

Arshavin is being sold.

08 Jan 2012 12:03:55
Its now being reported Arsenal will make an £8million bid for FC Cologne striker Lukas Podolski in the summer now that Thierry Henry has filled the gap up front short term with his loan move from New York Red Bulls.

Marty

What a joke. He goes back in 6 weeks and then we're back to our tired, toothless squad who can't seem to score without Robin.

Raz

Thats insane on every level, podolski could fit our attack perfectly and he doesn't cost the earth and isn't euro cup tied but most importantly he wouldn't be here for less than 2 months. to me wenger isn't spending as he is just papering over the cracks with the least financial outlay as possible til the summer when he steps down.

Still few more days in the window yet ppl. and we are pretty famous for leaving tranfers late. Would love to see someone like pedolski or elia for arshavin.

you never know....

Mikee

I would add that they may wait til end of season to see if they are in CL next season...first time in a while it looks shaky- you know how cautious they are about spending and its not the mentally to spend to try and ensure 4th or better for fear of finsihing 5th and left with more over paid players... thats my view.

As always far too cautious, which is costing us imo

The player didnt want to leave his home club until the summer.... How is that wenger's fault?

Get a grip.

Billybob452

"The player didnt want to leave his home club until the summer...."

Again, rubbish... Podolski himself said he'd have a tough choice to make this winter as he wants to play in England; with AFC his preferred choice. - He said this on SSN Germany, on Sunday night.

=Miss Arsenal.

He is a hero in Cologne you have to realise that. I doubt he would want to leave them half way through the season and be leave them on a sour note.

Gilo

Im pretty sure the supporters raised part of the tranfer fee to get him back at cologne. i may be wrong though thats my intial memory.

Mikee

I agree with post above. We lost two titles in last five years because of not doing enough in january TW. Remember DC problem? Remember GK problem?

Drcho

Agreed on your first comment Mikee, deffo! Fingers crossed. I seem to have lost all faith recently, nice to have a kick every now and then!
Raz

I think Wenger does just not like doing any business in Januray, he has only gone for Henry on loan out of nessecity to cover loss of Gervinho and Chamakh on ACN. He will also possibly get a LB on loan that will be it.


He is maybe hoping Chamakh will gain some confidence back from playing some internationls in ACN with the pressure off and to get some goals under his belt. I think he is a decent player still just lacking cofidence. I never though of him as a naturel goalscorer (or Gervinho for that matter) that will get you 20+ goals a season more of a provider/link player. What we really need is a greedy on the last man box playing striker.

It is always difficult to do major deals in Januray. Also there is the added issue this year with the Euro's., in that Players although would like to move are reluctant to do so as the time taking to re-adapt and settle into a new team in a new legue may cost you a place in the Euro squads.

It's funny mate, people come on her and say 'could you do a better job? No, so shut it!' etc, comments of that ilk.... but we actually have the best view of every game and we can see what AW can't. We see the performance from outside the box e.g Theo is shocking... as well as from inside e.g. 'Theo's put a few good balls across today on that wing (Arsene's thinking). We can always see when the players are shattered etc. So sometimes, yeah, I do think we could do a better job. When the respectable pundits, commentators and the majority of the fans are saying the same thing, why does that not make us right just because we didn't chose what AW did?

And yes, when it comes to transfers and talent, sometimes I really DO feel like I could do a job! Elia is someone I have been watching for a long time. Arteta was one for years. IMO we signed him 3 years too late, we should have piked him from Everton years ago. Elia we should have grabbed after the last WC. Ozil is obvious. Ba is another one I watched specially all of last season because I knew he had what it takes to play for a top side and he could, easily. Have you seen him shoot from range? He has a piledriver. Most of us on here have found cheap, young, top talent who we think would add something to the team and it seems the only person who can't/wont is AW...I don't mean any of this arrogantly but just because I am not a footy manage doesn't mean I can't tell the difference between a quality winger and a weak one for example...and how often do we sit here saying FGS Wenger why didn't you sign X or Y, now look at them?!

Raz

Nah im sorry dont agree with that bro.

theres so much we dont know about, we all only have speculation as sources unless one of us is actually stan the man himself, then no one really knows the truth and we have no right to pass judgement on speculation. although we can pass judgement on results but at the end of the season (19 games, fa cup and champions league run) but like arsene said "judge us at the end of the season"

+you'd be great at scouting and recruiting players maybe. but do you really think you could manage, train and improve 25+ players. as well as have them all look up to you in the tactics department? motivate and inspire them at a premier league standard??

sorry bro if yes, then you should be doin that not readin this

Mikee

K, sorry

just think all we need is one player maybe, just suarez even (who i think is VERY interesting prospect). yet just coz i dont think landing kaka or hazard is the end of the world, its deemed unambitious. yet look where chelsea's ambition got em... torres. wenger would lose his job disgracefully if he had signed him for that much, same with andy caroll.

if anyone wants arsene to keep his job/reputation its arsene. so im sure there will be something between now and summer + what our youth is capable of, that will wet our trophy appetite.

so, all need to chill n relax - watch the leeds game and ENJOY the speculation.
COME ON ARSENAL

Mikee

08 Jan 2012 05:24:42
surely it would be worth our time to pursue Abidal

Barca get a bit of cash for a player who's contract expires in the summer
and we get a player (who at 32) can fill in our injury crisis at the back and not hamper the progression of Gibbs/Santos (and maybe help Gibbs with his positioning)

seems like a typical Wenger signing too

thoughts?

Yes he is a great player who might have 1 or 2 years left, can cover us at LB and CB. Maybe 3 million would be a good price?
Sign him up Wenger.

JW

I think he is a pretty poor LB tbh but he used to be quite good so would help bring on the younger players.
I imagine he is being paid an absolute tonne though so I doubt we could afford his wages.

Nice idea though. We will have to wait and see.

Sally

Abidal will be better than gibbs for atleast 2 more years so I dont know what you mean really..buy him definitely.

Good Idea could also cover CB dont think he will leave tho untill the end of his contract

Wenger has just reiterated that he will only sign a LB on loan. considering how much Abidal is playing for barca this season, i doubt they will feel any need to loan him out. they may be convinced to sell him - so they can just buy another new LB - but i cant see arsenal making any offers.

Oleg Maputo

Hes on £47,500 a week which is affordable but seems unlikely as wenger says he only wants a loan signing.

^^
Wenger didnt say that he only wants a loan he said he doesn't need a long term Lb Abidal isnt long term at 32
89'gooner

He is overrated every time i have seen him play he makes mistakes would be very exposed in our team

spanner

07 Jan 2012 20:42:14
Lavezzi from Napoli for 30m? What do u think Ed?

GunnerzBoy {Ed002's Note - No, I don't think so. He has an agent in Frederic Guerra who does a really good job of talking up his players without being pushy; and a fabulous technique where he denies interest in his players from major clubs thereby attracting attention to them. There is potentially interest from several clubs including Manchester City (who need a replacement for Tevez), Zenit and Inter.}

07 Jan 2012 23:27:37
Here's 1 striker whose very versatile. Can play on both wings & can cover or play with RVP and that Is Loic Remy. 'The New Thierry Henry's' team marseille started off lyk us very poorly but have picked up their game. So ed I wanted to ask u is he available & for what price.

Islington Gooner

I like remy, he is s**t hot. yet i reckon he will be one that would need an "adjustment phase" like most of our french league strikers. what you reckon of Sow?

Mikee

I actually love Remy. He is my pick for the Summer.

Gilo

Would love to see what wenger could make of him also!
Mikee