28 Aug 2017 08:21:06
Speechless.

The club is in turmoil.

Wenger needs to go, but he won't leave and the board won't sack him, so we have this dross for the next 2 years.

Worst Arsenal team I have seen for decades.

1.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 09:35:04
But are they any worse than last season Dags mate? Are they any worse than the tram that last 7 0 to Chelsea or 5 1 at Liverpool, we have had many many worse performances and results at Stoke than last week's, so what's changed?
Everyone knew how poor the team and Arsene were last season an if people allowed themselves to be fooled by results against the beach boys of Stoke Everton and Utd at the end of the season then surely they are as responsible as Arsene for backing him based on those games rather than basing thier own backing on all that had before that both last season and for many many seasons now.
The results this season are simply usual Arsenal results a win at home to liecester and defeats at Stoke and Liverpool are people really suggesting we sack Arsene based on these results? Why ever didn't we simple be more realistic and honest last season when Arsene was out of contract? No sacking needed simply a celebration of a fantastic relationship that went on a little too long, we can't sack him after 3 games of a new contact that by far most fans wanted him to get.
We simply have to ride out this season at least and enjoy the bits we can because i personally don't see what's changed or how this season is any worse than last season or several before that.
We can't give our backing to a man we know inside out one minute and say oh sorry we've changed our minds the next that's ridiculous.

2.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 09:49:05
Agree mate.
We had a massive opportunity to prove to Sanchez, our best player, that we have the ambition to match his, but as usual, have had a half hearted transfer window.

We are stagnating, possibly regressing, whilst our competitors are excelling.

3 games into a new season and we are already in turmoil.

3.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 09:54:46
I don't believe we have the worst team, just amanager that is an enigma. On the one hane we have won 3 FA Cups and 2 Community shields over the last four seasons, we have also qualified for the CL every season, except for one season. Not many, if any Pl teams have a better record over this period. On the other hands we have a manger that plays too high a defensive line, a failed zonal marking system, a lack of true DM players, converts wide players into full backs that can't tackle, plays LB's as CB's and a RB as a LB (when we have CB's and LB's avaialabe) . The defensive side of Wenger's managaement skills are severely lacking. He allows top players contracts to run down to the final year. He sits on the bench grimacing instead of coaching the players from the touchline. There were signs last season that he had lost the players and this season after the odd team selction against Stoke he has lost them again. The shock Gabriel sale for a measly £10m and the likely sale of Mustafi clearly show that these players criticised Wenger, as there can be no other explanation why they have been or are being sold. We need to sell Chambers who simply isn't good enough and hasn't figured in Wengers plans and we need to replace Mertesacker who is retiring and also hasn't played this season. I believe we have some excellent players, who simply need the direction of a top manager. Would our current squad look better under Mourinho, Benitez, Guardiola, Conte, etc, yes of course they would, hence why most of our top players are wanted by other top clubs, its the deadwood we need to eliminate and even that hasn't been carried out successfully for many seasons. I want Wenger to go and I have stood up for him in the past and ether Benitez to take over or look at employing Henry if he has the necessary coaching badges. This can't go on much longer as the fans and team are clearly fed up.

4.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 10:21:25
Gunner62 - Last season Wenger escaped due to the FA Cup win. All was looking good at the beginning of the window with two signings, then Wenger went completely off the rails. We had to sort out the players with short deals or sell and replace them, which simply hasn't happened and now we either sell and probably don't replace these players or accept that we lose them for nothing and have to replace them with expensive top quality players. He also sold Gabriel to most fans astonishment and has clearly fallen out with Mustafi. In addition Wemger has started playing LB's as CB's and Bellerin at LB. He has now dropped the two new signings and the teams selected against Stoke and Liverpool were simply awful Wenger has also reverted to playing an absurdly high defensive line, with no defensive cover. This was a problem with the old system and now with the new. So, yes things ahave got worse since last season and Wenger has to go. Incidentally in the past I have backed Wenger, but the period from the end of last season until now has shown Wenger at his obstinate worst.

5.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 10:25:27
We can't sack him? Most fans wanted him to sign?

If you believe either of those there really is no point

Yes more fans should have stood up and made him go at the end of the contract. A lot did but some were still fooled. 3 games in or 10 games in doesn't matter. If the job is not being done correctly the contract can be cancelled by sacking him.

6.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 11:16:06
It can TG but it won't be and it shouldn't be either.
This is a club problem not just and Arsene problem, the board are happy with 4th the players are happy with 4th the management is happy with 4th and the vast majority of fans are happy with 4th, none will admit it but it's true.
Look at the posts stating how we've only missed out on CL once in 20 years and how no other club can boast that? It fails to mention we've come no where close to a title challenge for a decade and more or for all those champions league years of taking part not one QF in the last 8 seasons.
The whole mentality of the club is 4th place trophy from top to bottom players board manager fans alike.
Some players have left because of it and some have stuck around but haven't been happy about it but most have been very content with the 4th place trophy and it's the same with the fans, some in know have given up because of the clubs lack of ambition lots of others aren't happy but have stuck around hoping for change but the vast majority of Arsenal fans I know and meet through work and what ever think Arsene has done a great job for all his 21 years with the club.
This is the reality and it really is a club wide problem, 14 years without a single title challenge and a waiting list for season tickets?
It says it all.
Change needs to come from everyone and we all collectively need to up our game and expectations consistently if anything is to change not simply go from doom and gloom after each defeat or declaring ourselves title contenders after each victory.
Sorry but if change is to happen it's down to everyone to play thier part.

7.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 11:30:02
The whole mentality is wrong but Wenger runs the club. The manager is there to motivate and change that and he doesn't.
The players mentality should be changed by him and who bought these players? Wenger.
He needs to go first then see what the next manager can change.

8.) 28 Aug 2017
28 Aug 2017 12:06:04
The fans need to go first, by making thier minds up and sticking to it mate, what's the board to do sack him only a little bit:-)