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30 May 2017 19:44:09
i said back in 2014 that the fa cup was a perfect way for wenger to leave on a high and i would say after saturday that would have been perfect to.
but now it looks like he's staying and that is it for now, no point in going on about wanting him gone
but for example if we end up selling alexis, have a poor transfer window and start the season bad then things will get ugly very early on.
1.) 30 May 2017 20:11:37
Agree mark.
2.) 30 May 2017 20:21:18
What he has done is put himself in the firing line and said to everybody, I can win the league, I will show you lot. He has no lives left. It may be a bumpy ride ahead. Has he took the biggest gamble of his life.
3.) 30 May 2017 22:25:40
Will he be sacked lads? No way.
Will he walk out in the middle of a contract half way through it for the first time ever? Absolutely no way either.
So what would demonstrations banners and shouting and screaming at anyone do?
Half way through the season after next then it maybe relevant to talk about change that summer but until then its campaign for a campaign sake imo.
4.) 30 May 2017 23:07:09
Gunner, you know that will not matter. let's hope for that miracle.
5.) 30 May 2017 23:34:10
You maybe right Steve, but if some people think shouting at the rain will suddenly make the sun come out, good luck to them but I won't be joining them.
Put up your umbrella accept the current climate and make the best of it is my view.
Us Arsene out fans have had our say and we lost, my personally view is accept defeat with all the humility we can muster.
6.) 31 May 2017 01:22:35
Great perspective g62. Regardless of how things go higher up, the obligation is to support the team. Feelings on Wenger are pretty 50/ 50 myself but more than ever need to get behind the squad and give them that extra boost.
7.) 31 May 2017 01:46:33
I will quote you in november gunner. Lol.
8.) 31 May 2017 07:54:02
Fair play Steve mate :-)
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05 Mar 2023 16:14:58
so now all i keep reading is the league is rigged for us lol, yeah ok.
let's just keep winning, silence the haters and let them crack on with their theories.
1.) 05 Mar 2023 16:31:52
Makes a nice change from the previous years when people have claimed the refs UAFA FA and all other big clubs throughout Europe have been involved in a secret plot against us to stop us dominating world football as we surely would if such a plot didn't exist ?.
2.) 05 Mar 2023 17:21:17
If they were rigging that match for us it would have been easier to give us one of those penalty shouts rather than an extra minute.
3.) 05 Mar 2023 17:36:10
Absolutely Eden, always start with the boring logical unexciting conclusions before jumping straight on to the incredible and fantastic explanations that support the people who are making the claims feelingsa and wishes.
09 Oct 2022 19:31:17
they said we ain't played any big teams yet
and now we have played 2 big teams in united and liverpool and are still top of the league
can clearly see the mentality of the team has changed, because after the utd loss i think most people thought we would crumble and havent.
long may it continue.
1.) 09 Oct 2022 19:46:15
6 points from possible 9 against top 4 rivals, very impressive and once again uncharted territory in recent ove the last 15 years.
2.) 10 Oct 2022 12:36:34
G62, we finished second like 6 or 7 years ago, bud.
26 May 2022 11:45:37
if eddie signs this new contract offer and we do not sign a top striker, that shows the lack of ambition we have.
sorry but imo eddie is not the striker who will take us forward, he will have 3/ 4 good games then go missing for 10.
1.) 26 May 2022 13:18:52
Alright Mark mate,
Not to be argumentative, but Nketiah signing a new contract is not synonymous with us signing a top striker.
I’m sure there could be an agreement whereby we satisfy Nketiahs contract requirements and still sign another striker.
He’s homegrown and while I share your sentiments about consistency, I think we would be harsh to speculate that he would have ‘3/ 4 good games and go missing for 10’ having never played 13 or 14 games in a row for Arsenal let alone started 13 or 14, like, let’s say, Lacazette has.
If Lacazette is the benchmark for a back up to a top striker, i.e Aubameyang, then I don’t think there can be any doubt Nketiah would be an upgrade on Lacazette to whatever incoming striker we might sign this summer, and again he’s homegrown and has emotional ties to the club, which are important to Arteta, as well as us fans when it comes to where we want to try get to over the next few years.
My only issue with him personally is his attitude, not his application because I find his hustle refreshing comparable to some recent Arsenal players, but just sometimes his demeanour. There is something just below the surface there, almost like a chip on the shoulder, that Saka, ESR, Reiss and AMNs do not demonstrate. Maybe it’s because he feels in training he is consistently showing he should be starting ahead of his piers in the striker role, maybe it’s just inherent ego, I can’t tell.
But if he could put this attitude second for the greater good of the squad and go out and perform consistently and selflessly for the team, then there’s no disputing he is worthy of an Arsenal shirt and after that it becomes about what legacy he wants for himself.
Does he want to be an Ian Wright, or a journeyman with other premier league clubs with a lesser profile?
It’s down to him now if a contract is signed but I really don’t think it can be a negative for us.
2.) 26 May 2022 13:30:21
Don't be so negative fellow, Eddie can sign the contract and we still sign a top striker (preferred one with height) or two. I still don't think there's an abundant of top quality strikers out there to go around for years now.
Let's wait and see what the club manage to bring in then we debate how we'll perform and where we will finish and what we'll win.
3.) 26 May 2022 16:06:42
Not in reference to you Shambo reply to gooner mark. Well said Shambo very detailed more than what I had time for.
4.) 26 May 2022 18:13:02
appreciate the responses and always respect your opinions guys, but if eddie was to sign he surely must have been made assurances that he'll be a regular starter, which makes me think we won't sign a top forward because game time was one reason he wasn't signing.
sorry if sound like i am moaning and being negative but it's my opinion, and that would not surprise me at all.
5.) 26 May 2022 20:03:00
I have always wondered how far Eddie could go. He is a serious young man so it's hard to judge what he's feeling. Because he has had so few starts (until recently) I was always nervous watching him lead the line.
I'm pretty sure he won't be our number 1 striker this year but I hope he has a good run in the EL and I think that will show him a lot about his level. Mikel has said his work ethic is very good so that's positive.
I suppose his big decision has to be whether he wants to be no.2 with us or no.1 with someone else.
6.) 26 May 2022 20:03:23
Totally agree Yard mate, wait and see what the club do or don't do before throwing away your season ticket or booking seats for the CL final 2024.
Most of the time it's not what is actually really happening that upsets us, but the thoughts of what might or might not happen that really winds us up. Which when you think about it's totally self inflicted misery ????.
7.) 27 May 2022 01:43:36
Backup striker is a good role for a team in 4 competitions when you're young. Eddie will almost certainly start our cup games and EL ties and be a great impact sub when we are chasing a goal. I think this is what Arteta must have told him because there is no way we can compete in 4 comps without a top striker coming in.
8.) 27 May 2022 09:29:04
if anything surely its a good thing in reference to us singing a striker, the money and wages we would have had to spend on a 2nd striker has now gone, allowing that investment to be focused on 1 striker.
I don't think Eddie will be worried about 1 other striker coming in, I think his problem has been that he has usually been 4th choice at best. Auba and lacca both got good game time, I'm sure what they will have said to him is that they are going to bring in 1 more and that will be our strikeforce.
His finishing is good, his running is good, his hustle is good, and this season we will see just how good he can be, look at how tammy has flourished. if we can get the Eddie that plays in an England shirt then we have a very decent striker in there.
IF not then we have him on a contract and won't lose him for free in a season or too.
17 May 2022 12:40:04
no excuses whatsoever for last nights performance
if arteta can't motivate the players considering what was at stake then for me the buck stops with him.
if we can't get top4 with no europe then how will we next season with thursday and sunday football? because we won't win the europa league.
arteta will not take us any further, i always said the job is way to big for him and that he's punching way above his weight.
and all we will hear now is the usual bs about a process or project youth.
1.) 17 May 2022 12:58:25
to add to that, the people who back arteta was quick enough to call for emery to go, he has done no better than emery in the league so why is arteta getting away with it?
next season we will be worrying more about the likes of west ham and newcastle not the top 4.
2.) 17 May 2022 15:14:25
Absolutely Mark. I think there is a good manager inside Arteta but we need a upgrade on him now. I was warming to him but his big game mentality is woeful.
I look at our squad, it is young yes
Is it inexperienced definitely no IMO.
Yeah we had injures and suspensions, but all clubs have them problems.
On Thursday irrespective of the sending off, I think we would have still lost due to Arteta naive tactics. Should, have just frustrated them, don't give Kane and Son any space . Burnley almost done it twice, Brighton, Middlesbrough, so why couldn't we. As for last night clueless, lifeless, shoddy etc.
Valid point, about Newcastle and West Ham, and don't forget Utd. As I said earlier some people are happy with Europa but to be 4pts clear with 2 big games coming up and a manager who couldn't come up with 2 efficient game plans.
3.) 17 May 2022 16:21:32
Whats the difference between Thursday Sunday to, Wednesday Saturday or Saturday Tuesday?
Think near enough every Arsenal fan would of snatched at 5th place at the start of the season. Looking over the season as a while i'm rather proud of the lads, having the youngest average squad in the league and finishing 5th is not a bad end to the season. The only downside to the season is not adding 1 or 2 in January as the injuries have hit hard.
Don’t forget Spurs could always do a Spursy and get beat by Norwich ??.
{Ed014's Note - none for me and this current squad would be wasting their time in the Champions League, had we got better upgrades in the summer that could have been different.
Trouble is we’re still the same Arsenal that Wenger left behind and that doesn’t look like changing any time soon.
4.) 17 May 2022 17:07:47
PEP Klopp Tuchel Conte are all proven top level mangers at more than one club and Areteta is still struggling to find his feet after 2.5 seasons, me personally if I was running the club I'd accept I had two simply choice, get a top manager who can compete at the level Klopp Pep Tuchel and Conte operate at or accept EL is our realistic level.
I genuinely don't believe it's realistically possible for the rookie Areteta who so obviously still struggles to motivate and set up his players on a consistent basis to compete with the top elite managers, in my opinion it's not going to happen and we either accept that or do something about it.
Anything is just lottery winning wishful thinking in my opinion.
5.) 17 May 2022 17:18:48
Very well put 62.You summed it up in a couple of paragraphs which I would probably took about 10 and lost the thread of what I aas trying to put across.
6.) 17 May 2022 17:20:26
For me Ed, we would of needed at least 6 players, upgrades on what with have/ to compete and rotate through the competitions. We definitely would be wasting our time with the champions league i reckon, and on the plus side at least the likes of patino and Flores and co, will get some game time ??♂️ Strengthen and go again next season ??.
{Ed014's Note - absolutely 93, and who those 6 would be with only Europa league football on offer is going to have to entail some seriously smart work in the transfer window.
We’re going to need a keeper, back up left and right backs, replacements for Xhaka and likely Elneny with probably two strikers.
We need to sort out Ramsdale, a little less mucking about and 100% concentration, you don’t see Allison or Ederson doing the crap Ramsdale does. Be enthused with a want to win but the rest is just stupid.
In those purchases we need leaders and no one with a weak negative attitude.
We’re a mile behind and it’s not the end of the season and City with the purchase of Haaland just increased the gap!
7.) 17 May 2022 18:49:03
Hi Bill in my opinion it's the reality of the situation, I'd liken it to asking an under 18 school boy heavy weight hopeful to go toe to toe with Ali, Frazer, Foreman and Holmes in their prime.
Only the lads most loyal fans would buy into the dream and expect him to punch far so above his class.
If we stick with Arteta as I'm virtually sure we will at least for the start of next season, then I totally accept his and our realistic battle will be against Hag and United, Howe and Newcastle, Moyse and West ham, Rodgers and Leicester for 5th place and a guaranteed EL place the following season.
But of course we do have that EL wildcard chance next season that wasn't available to us this season and there are no Ali's Frazer's, Foreman's and Holmes to contend with in the EL, so there are back door CL opportunities available next season that weren't there this season.
I am absolutely sure Arteta wants top 4 at least and ideally to be premier league champions next season every bit as much as we all do, I don't for one minute doubt his ambition and desire, only his ability to fulfil his and our dreams.
8.) 17 May 2022 19:15:14
Very valid arguments 62.
9.) 17 May 2022 21:03:29
Thanks Bill mate.
31 Aug 2021 01:12:25
in regards to my last post when i said about people need to get a grip who back arteta, i never meant any offence by it. its your opinion and i do actually respect other's opinions and views.
but things like getting xhaka a new deal, getting rid of emi and keeping leno and sending saliba out on loan ( who's said he's ready to play) have all been arteta's decisions and surely anyone can see them decisions have been the wrong ones?
so again apologies if it came across in a bad way, i was just venting where i'm so hurt seeing what's happening to our club.
and i can only see things getting worse and not any better.
1.) 31 Aug 2021 03:20:41
Of those I think while Arteta had a say, only the Saliba situation really looks like his decision.
2.) 31 Aug 2021 08:00:25
Hey Mark mate, we all say things we don't mean and later regret saying mate.
Fair play to you for thinking about it and apologising mate.
Don't dwell on it geezer, not everyone has the humility to come back and say sorry, so be proud of yourself mate and have a great day ðŸ‘.
3.) 31 Aug 2021 09:14:31
For those who support MA `Get a Grip` those who don`t `Knuckle Down` these hand analogies are taking over the car ones. All opinions welcome and I love the red mist passionate ones whether I agree or not COYG Aouar Aarons and Bissouma please Norfolk and Chance though.
4.) 31 Aug 2021 11:38:09
Big thumbs up to that post Sussex😂.
{Ed014's Note - when Sussex said get a grip and knuckle down I thought he was saying we were all W anchors! 🤣🤣🤣
5.) 31 Aug 2021 12:24:48
haha Ed It`s getting out of hand now, nailed it, fish stew too much? Too much time on my . stop COYG.
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26 May 2022 18:13:02
appreciate the responses and always respect your opinions guys, but if eddie was to sign he surely must have been made assurances that he'll be a regular starter, which makes me think we won't sign a top forward because game time was one reason he wasn't signing.
sorry if sound like i am moaning and being negative but it's my opinion, and that would not surprise me at all.
17 May 2022 12:58:25
to add to that, the people who back arteta was quick enough to call for emery to go, he has done no better than emery in the league so why is arteta getting away with it?
next season we will be worrying more about the likes of west ham and newcastle not the top 4.
22 Nov 2020 01:16:07
ed to be honest he hasn't been given a chance though, and i don't believe he is that bad where he chooses to play kolasinac at cb, and it's kind of the same thing with the pepe situation to, look how well he is playing compared to willian and willian seems to be a guaranteed starter.
could it just be possible that arteta has his favourites?
28 Oct 2019 13:37:25
as i said it goes back a lot further than yesterday the fans frustration with xhaka.
{Ed047's Note - it’s like you can remember some of the fantastic stuff Ozil did, Cazorla did, Ramsey did but with Xhaka it’s literally nada!
28 Oct 2019 12:55:15
same thing i was thinking moe, that's the first thing that he would sort out which is one of our biggest problems and has been for some time.