Arsenal Rumours Archive January 10 2012

10 Jan 2012 23:44:15
Oussama Assaidi. Been watching this player for a while, think he's a real talent.

Is off to the Africa Cup of Nations this year with the Morocco squad, but I'd love to have him at Arsenal and I personally rate him higher than I do Matias Suarez (and certainly Walcott). He's young, he's quick, he can cross a ball, he has skill, he's an excellent dribbler and very importantly he's a genuinely two-footed player. Also unlike Walcott, as is seen in the video, instead of trying to use his sheer pace to make use of a counter attack, he'll sprint with the ball into the box and if/when surrounded, he'll hold it up and look for an option instead of just passing blindly or shooting from an improbable angle. He's been playing for Heerenveen in the Netherlands but I genuinely believe that this out-and-out winger would be the answer to our wing prayers. Though I do admit it wouldn't be ideal to have him and Gervinho off to the ACN every two years, but having Walcott as a squad player wouldn't be a bad thing at all.

GM7

Sorry, can't just accept youtube videos. Do you remember last season's videos of Miyachi?

Billybob452

Wow! Genuinely impressed by just that video,
Haven't done enough research into him but from that video he looks great; immense pace with a clinical shot! His positioning seems decent too,
After being accomadated to the EPL he would definitely start before Theo (only if he keeps all these amazing runs up ;))
Just wondering Eds if maybe Arsenal already have scouts watching him ?

PDotY {Ed001's Note - I have no idea sorry.}

How old is he GM7 ? Seems like early 20's but i can't be too sure !
I'd check myself but i'm on my phone lol

PDotY

Well I can't exactly put his whole CV and every minute he's ever been on the pitch on here. This is a taster of what he can do when you give him the ball. I've watched a lot of football from around the world, having travelled a lot and also watched whenever it's on television, and this is the player who has stood out above many others. He performs consistently for his team. I wasn't using the Youtube video as a tool to win folk round, it's just a visual aid to help my point.

GM7

P.S. I do remember Miyaichi's videos, but you cant say he hasn't delivered because he hasn't had much of a chance thus far.

To PDotY, he's 23.

GM7

On that video, have a look at chamakhs "movement" for assaidis goal for morocco *rolls eyes* what a useless lazy waste of pre cum he is. bloody giraffe, that sickens and infuriates me cause he does that for us too, every time. its like he doesnt put him self in goal scoring positions because hes scared of taking a chance and missing.

wtf? wheres your strikers instinct man!? do your job, youre a striker, youre paid an obscene amount of money which you dont deserve to score goals you pussy. is he scared of the ball and of scoring!? ffs. makes me so mad. him and denilson - the only two players ive ever hated with a passion. the denilson of strikers.

anyways, sorry for rambling and ranting, back on topic. this guy looks a decent player tbf though, that goal for morocco where chamakh was just standing outside of the box for some reason like an person was amazing.

but its youtube and and its the dutch league. suarez is mainly a striker and this guy is clearly an out and out winger. so its a bad comparison. perhaps, he is indeed better then theo, but lots of players are better then theo.

would i welcome him if he can perform like he does in the video on a consistent basis, as in every week virtually, then yes i probably would. but thats the question is he consistent and would he be able to hack it in the premier league, i guess that would be for wenger to decide, who im sure knows of him.
fats

I might be late joining the comment but I think GM7 deserves some credit here. He (or she) is the first person to have raised this player, who does, on the evidence of this video look tidy. Not sure you should discount all youtube video's on the basis that you may have seen one where a player allegedy flatters to deceive as one poster alludes to regarding Miayachi, although it seems premature to judge Ryo as he has barely been seen in Arsenal colours in a competitive domestic environment. Good work!
Max Farnham

Billybob, the thing is, last year's video of Ryo didn't make him look good at all, I never understood what the fuss was about, I thought the video was sh!t to be honest. Just lots of him running fast and losing the ball. This guy blatantly has talent.
Raz

Seems like a good lad but remember it's only the dutch league. even miyaichi looked like a star there, coming straight from japan! this is definitely the type of a player we need but it would be a gamble. not saying we shouldn't sign him because i liked what i saw although it was just a youtube video.

iceman

Yeah but in fairness to him iceman, the league he's in doesn't stop him having top skill with the ball at his feet. Doesn't matter if you play on the playground, in a Park or in the prem, you either can or cant beat players and this guy looks like he can no? This guys, from this video, looks as good as Hazard. Virtually no difference.
Raz

What i meant he may struggle to adjust physically to prem. yes he has good skill but physically it's a less demanding league. here he would have less time, less space and the game has faster pace. defenders are stronger and better. good to see he has skill but football isn't all about skill. of course there's a chance he would settle in no time and start banging goals but youtube video doesn't tell me that.

iceman

Lets put it this way...he's better than our current wide players we have so I wouldn't say no....however I would much prefer the likes of Hazard and Gotze. players we should be going for but probably won't.
its our wide players that our letting our system down. we play more direct nowadays but dnt have the wingers to do it. this kid in the video would be a plus in our squad, but unfortunately we arent linked with him so whats the point???

Wozza

Also just to raise one final point, his showboat goal near the end of the video. My word. Nice to see also people agreeing with the fact that he's a great player. Probably won't end up with us but nice to see him get some form of recognition, no matter how small a group we are on here.

GM7

Wozza we don't often sign players we're linked with until it's confirmed that we've made me a bid though mate - so there's equally as little point talking about Suarez, Goetze, Hazard, Granero, Kalou, Samba, Mata, Podolski, Martin, M'Vila, Vetonghen, Alex, etc etc because we very rarely actually sign a player we are deemed to be in for. In fact, by simple process of elimination it is more likely we sign a player who someone mentions like this who we aren't linked with than the other way round ha ha.

P.s. GM7 does it actually go in?

Raz

11 Jan 2012 18:28:54
found this article dated June 9th 2011. Have used Google Translate to put it into English - bit scrambled but you can just make out what it means!

translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsport-maroc.com%2F06%2Fadmirateur-en-date-de-oussama-assaidi-le-manager-d%25E2%2580%2599arsenal-arsene-wenger%2F&act=url

GM7

We've signed suarez on pre-contract

Raz

fair play u make a good point. but with this logic we could be discussing every single player out there lol. not just the players that we deem good as well, but the ones of Silvestre's calibre who we wouldn't have guessed would have come because we had all hoped our manager had a bit more sense than that. but fair play to the guy who posted this video, this is the kinda player we should be bringing in. guess we should be sending these videos to Wenger as well

Wozza

10 Jan 2012 19:32:11
Im hearing that matias suarez has signed a pre-contract and will be joining in the summer ? Not sure if this is concrete, but if it is then its great news. Big fan of this guy, would be a great asset.
Imagine a front 3 of :

Suarez--------RVP--------Gervinho

A lot of goals would be scored with this attacking force

Benny G

No, a lot of goals would be scored with rvp. the other two almost aren't necessary :)

No Suarez-------RVP--------Walcott

not gerviniho

Walcott would play ahead of Saurez. He has the potential to be immense, with a few tips from King Henry.

Billybob452

In my opinion i would choose Gervinho over walcott in terms of form. And you probably haven't even seen Suarez play, he is a good player.
Benny G

Hehe I think the fact that everybody is 100% on Van Persie tells us everything we need to know!

Every other player is expendable at the moment, so we can expect to see the squad rotated depending on the opposition. Infact I can see Wenger setting out two formations, the usual 4-5-1 (he calls it 4-3-3 but as we can see Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin and co haven't got the goals to call it a 4-3-3) and then a supplementary 4-4-1-1 where we have a player in the hole as United do with Rooney.

But at the moment we are limited as we cannot rely on anybody hitting the net apart from Van Persie, and for the next 2 months in the last 20mins HENRY the king of kings :) God of football himself...

CS

Walcott has the potential to be immence? Isn;t he like 24, he should have been showing his ability before now. Which he hasn't

CT

Walcott is 22.

Suarez in undoubtedly a good player, but once Walcott finally learns how to utilise his pace, he will be unstoppable.

For all those celebrating the return of the King, I suggest you remember how Juve fans viewed him.

If anyone can turn Walcott's potential (He is still VERY young) into a world-class talent.

And if you think that was a one off / RVP is another prime example. Maybe injuries were at fault; but Wenger turned a completely left-footed player with no composure into the most consistent goal-scorer in the world.

Billybob452

Walcott will never be a world class player by the time he works out how to utilise his pace it'll be gone then were will he be because he sure doesn't have any technical ability to fall back on like Henry he was alot more affective coming off the bench because then with his pace it didn't matter about having technical skills because he'd left the defenders at the halfway line and be one-on-one with the keeper should cash in and replace with a better all round winger that can cross and score goals instead of sprinting up the wing and punting the ball into the first defender that comes towards him

I do not understand all of this criticism of Walcott. It's honestly absurd.

Do you remember his goal against liverpool? Have you watched his finishing?

The problem is lack of confidence and composure. These are things that can improve with games. Not every player hits their peak at 22 like Messi.

Billybob452

Agreed billybob. All young players bar a tiny tiny few, who we have occasionally been graced with (Cesc, Jack) are inconsistent almost by definition. Walcott will have pace for a while yet and he's been a huge threat for us.

I agree with billybob452, earlier in the season everyone on here was saying how good walcotts crossing has improved, how he should play ST as he can be as a lethal finisher. and now during off spell everyones on his back, give him a chance.
Waq

The critisim of Walcott is that he has pace, but rarely has the control to use that pace. He spends his time losing the ball and moaning when a pass isn't perfect for him to run out of play. Walcott is 23 in march, I thoughthe was 24 in march but was wrong. Either way his attitude is pants. There just seesm to be such a lack of proper talent and attitude that is masked by speed. Don't forget his shocking inonsistency, one good game for every 15 bad

Yes all these people sayign he scored this goal and that, but so has Chamakh, doesn't change the fact he isn't good enough for arsenal.

Still am not convinced by these arguements. I think the only complaint I have of Wenger is that he introduced Walcott too soon and was not able to protect him from fickle fans with unreasonable expectations. Walcott is still at beginning of his career and will continue to improve.

If you compare him to Hazard/Messi/Ronaldo, no he is not at that level = but face facts, we can't afford that level.

By your logic Pato is a rubbish player correct? And when Balotelli was under-performing at Inter; that was because he had technical ability and no temperant - which would never change? Busquests should have been transferred because he was not good enough for barca, given how many stray passes he had in 2010/2011....

Shall I go on.

Billybob452

Can not understand people that defend Walcott. do you guys even watch Arsenal games?? he is awful on the right wing and claims he should be playing as a striker in a central role, yet when he gets into those positions he doesnt do anything to back his claims. there's much more effective wide plays in the Premiership that I would much prefer over Walcott. anyways I aint threating, this is the year of the ox and come the end of the season Chamberlain will be our first choice wide man. only thing stopping Chamberlain right now is experience. at the moment he does a lot to impress but at times trys to do too much....which is still more of a contribution than what walcott gives. when he came on against Leeds with Henry which looked like a father and son moment just to add, Walcott was no where to be seen. I barely remember him touching the ball and he's who Chamberlain is meant to be looking up to. Alex is laughing inside and knows it won't be long.

get shot of Theo, Arshavin, Chamakh and Squaillaci and Arsenal will be taken seriously again.

Wozza

10 Jan 2012 19:01:13
I think if were looking to challenge for silverware in future seasons then quality squad players will need to be signed. I'm not to sure on the availability of these players but hopefully the likes of:

1 defensive back - up ( Maxwell?, Balzarette?)
1 central midfield back - up ( Sessegnon?, Moses?, Dembele?)
1 winger back - up ( Ben Arfa?, Albrighton?)

Sanjay

Maxwell is not a bad call. We can only hope to sign an LB on loan for now, but I really think he would fit the bill. He has not played much for Barca this season so could be loaned out.

I dont think we need to draft in another cm right now. defensively, Song is outstanding, Frimpong and Coquelin show a lot of promise. Wilshere and Arteta are great ball-winners AND fantastic playmakers, and Ramsey - though still a bit short on end product - is developing very well.

I am also not panicking about wingers - I am an admirer of Gerv and Walcott in such positions, we also have Ox and Miyaichi who should be given chances and Benayoun always puts in a good shift. I really think we just need to get rid of Chamakh and draft in another reliable goalscorer for the long-term and we will be a very strong side.

Oleg Maputo

Sessegnon, Moses and Dembele arn't central midfielders.

JW

Decent suggestions, some of them would improve the squad and perhaps the first team, especially dembele and ben arfa but would they guarantee trophies? ofc not.

most of those players you've suggested, especially the attacking players, are only starting to prove their quality this season so they would all be gambles.
fats

Don't need a permanent solution in LB, midfield's packed as it is, and we need a forward squad player not a winger

PSG are the club very close to signing Maxwell. It has been mentioned on all of the major sporting networks.

Billybob452

Albrighton will not join us.

I'd love to know why Chamahk suddenly became rubbish. after watching him bang in the goals and lead the line, and get off to such a great start it's sad to hear fans calling for him to leave.

It's hard to argue though on his current form, seems the only thing he can get his head on is Van Persies head when he's trying to score! Lol perhaps that is why he isn't performing - he can't play alongside Van Persie? Just a thought

CS

Our midfield is packed , but is it packed with quality? Song is overrated and must have the worst pass completion rate in the whole squad. Ramsay has been poor recently. Rosicky and diaby aren't good enough and benayoun is not the answer.

"song is overrated and must have the worst pass completion rate in the whole squad."

stop watching football my friend, just stop. thats no way to talk about the best defensive midfielder in the premier league. how dare you...get outta here.
fats

Song is in NO way overrated...the complete opposite in fact... I'll admit some of his passes are lax but he is a ball winning midfielder and he does that to an extremely high standard...not to mention he is still 3-4 years away from his peak. Ramsey had a years setback cut the chap some slack for christ sake and he has been consistently improving unlike Eduardo who was done after his leg break...says something about his character tbh...

StEvE

Only one bit of that really don't like, Song has been massive for us for over a year now. OK, he's not the best passer but look how many goals he has created. Immense in midF though. Aside from that a starting mid of jack-song-Arteta would be one of the strogest in the land.

Ash man

Mm, yeah, I'd say Song is only challenged by Tiote and Yaya in terms of best premship DM and Yaya isn't really even that sort of player. Better than Lucas, Jones, Mikel, axe murderer De Jong... could go on to be honest

Haha obv no NOTHING about football, Ramsey has been outstanding this season he is top class, the lads only 21 and has the potential to be better than fabregas and like someone mentioned he was out for a year with a broken leg dont think you know how mentally challenging it is to come back and play at such a high level, watch him and see and dont put in such ridiculous comments there are very few better midfielders in the league just now, Song i agree does misplace some passes but the physical attribute in the middle of the park he gives arsenal is a key cog in our midfield machine, allows arteta and ramsey to do what they do, who would you rather have, looking at the top teams.....carrick, rameries, G Barry? absolutely not. Wenger has a midfield crisis in a good way when wiltshire comes back...who do you drop??? and commenting on another post, please sell walcott and dont give him any higher wages, the only game hes done well this season was chelski away, hes a 5 games a season player and has been for years now, O Chamberlin is going to be twice the player and walcott knowes it

Arsenal need an attacking midfield like Cesc/nasri (who can score)... ramsey is not good enough

Ramsey has been fantastic this season a proper class act, you have to admire the way he has come back from the bad injury he suffered, was a different gravy to the other players monday night.

Ben arfa was always expected to be the main guy to shine as a teenager out of the 'french algerians' crop in nasri benzema and ben arfa. im pretty sure he still has the potential

"Ben arfa was always expected to be the main guy to shine as a teenager out of the 'french algerians' crop"

shame hes tunisian then?
fats

We'd hav to give him 6 months to settle in anyway he'll hav to adapt to the preemier league and we need players to come in and do a good job strait from the moment we ssign them

I admit arsenal need to sign players, but if you think about it, our team when all players are fit is good. back four of santos vermaelen koscielny & sagna. midfield: walcott wilshire song arteta gervinho and rvp upfront. Our problem is that we have no one in reserve- apart from ramsey rosicky and diaby. we need to sign samba, granero, and podolski. That would only cost around 40 m- maximum. And why cant we do that after selling cesc and nasri? As for the short term problem, ideally we could sign Cissokho on loan. We need to get rid of Arshavin, maybe 7 m? and squillaci, 1 million at most. Chamakh started well but looks a lot worse now, I'd get rid of him, maybe 6.5 m?

10 Jan 2012 15:44:12
I've been hearing samir na$ri was in the stands, can you confirm this ed ?
Benny G {Ed001's Note - yes, he was watching from a box belonging to one of your players, I forget which one, that he is still close friends with. It has been mentioned on the site a few times on the banter page, for some reason Arsenal fans don't seem keen on him. Can't think why...... ;o)}

I saw earlier someone say it was Chamacks.

The Ladyboy, looked out of place at The Emirates. he should stick to rainy Manchester.

Don't care one way or the other for Nasri as he is no longer an Arsenal player and I am only interested in our players or players who may arrive here and play for us.

To be honest he was a good player, moved on to warm up the City bench it wasn't exactly a huge loss anyway!

Only reason we notice is because none of our strikers are scoring! Hopefully this drought will end, and people will realise that our short comings as a team are not due to Cesc or Nasri leaving.

More to do with Henry and Adebayor leaving and not being replaced properly.

Van Persie can only do so much, we need goals from midfield which is a training issue, and more goalscorers in the squad which is a transfer dealing issue.

CS

I'm with you CS. There were 60,000 + others in the stands too. Thanks for coming....

US Gooner

It was frimpongs box. now his at wolves his letting his best mate nasri use it.... lol

10 Jan 2012 12:34:57
ED any chance of miyachi going on loan anywhere? {Ed001's Note - it is unlikely, the idea of getting him back to the club was to get him used to the Arsenal way of playing.}

I really want to see what all the fuss is about with Ryo; he was highly rated before and after he signed but I have barely been able to catch a glimpse!

Hopefully he will be like Eduardo was, and after a bit of gym training start poaching goals and winning games for us.

CS

He's not been playing because he's been injured for months.

But, the fuss is well warranted. He's not a poacher either, more of a left wing forward.

Hes not like eduardo cs mate, hes not a poacher type at all. hes an out and out winger, whos played mostly on the left wing. hes more comparable to an 18 year old cristiano ronaldo then anyone else, perhaps with less flashy skills, very raw but can be very explosive with his immense acceleration, and he leaves people for dead with two stepovers or a ronaldo esque chop.

i watched a lot of his games for feyenoord at the back end of last season. and he ripped up the league over there, and the fans fell in love with him, chanting his name like crazy and holding up japan flags, this for a recent japanese school boy whos only experience of football was at high school.

he totally changed their season around, and he was seen as like their savoir basically. they were struggling for points big time before he came and there were even fears of them even being involved in a relegation battle. but he gave the whole place a lift and they went on a long unbeaten run and really turned their season around and ended it positively. he was so good that all the other teams started double marking ryo and trying to give him the "stoke treatment" but he just got back up every time and went past his fullback time after time and put in lots of dangerous crosses. his work rate and discipline is phenomenal. he also just seems like such a nice humble guy.

on another note, he created a twitter page and he called it something like "ryodinhio", after ronaldinho, which was the nickname the dutch people gave him. the japanese press gave him a really hard time over this twitter name saying that because of this, it shows hes cocky and arrogant, but they took it totally out of context and totally overreacted. ryo then deleted his page because of this which to me shows how eager he is to please or not upset everyone and that he is in truth, just a sensitive kid fresh out of high school!

i love the kid, his enthusiasm, work ethic and his attitude and really hope he makes it, hes not perfect. like i said before, hes very raw still. his all round game, especially his passing and his general end product needs some work. his main problem is getting used to the physical demands of the premier league. he needs to bulk up a bit, because sometimes he looks like a deer out there with lions!
fats

I saw on the watford rumour page about him maybe going there, doubt it but at least wenger can look over the hedge and check up on him at training :)

There is some speculation he might go to swansea for the rest of the season but if he does we will be very empty at the left midfielder/forward position.

Wingers can also poach goals and win games aka Henry, who was always a winger before he started playing upfront at Arsenal. Why do you think Walcott thinks he can play upfront?

Henry was good enough on the wings but he pushed for a striker role and through Wenger's tuition and his own natural ability he got there.

What I meant with that was that perhaps Ryo can do the same? if he is as skillful as people are making out, and I expect he is quick and hard working then there is no reason to suggest he cannot be a goal threat in the same vein as Eduardo was ... You could always rely on him before his leg break:

Give him half a chance and most days he would score it, unlike Henry who would just turn the half chance into an unmissable one THEN score it.

Different players same result, this is what I am hoping we can expect to see in young Ryo (when he finally gets some games).

CS