Arsenal Rumours Archive October 12 2011

12 Oct 2011 18:25:03
Have just seen tweet saying that Usmanov is preparing to offer £14,000 per share to bring him over the 30% mark to force a formal takeover.Unfortunately Kronke has a 66.7 stake,does anyone know how much Kronke paid per share earlier this year.If it was less than £14,000,then it would make good finacial sense to sell his shares to Usmanov.
Braintreegooner

Pleaseee Let This Be True

With the financial fair play rules i think that Usmanov money would be redundant, he's not going to be able to spend it! had he came in 1-2 years ago he could have got us through a difficult period alas i think his money would be coming too late.

Does ffp affect on wages? usmanov could help us raising them so maybe we wouldn't lose so many stars anymore

January??

FFP means the club has to recoup what in spends each year. So if we spend 100m we have to recoup it all that year. It will mean an end to big name signings and high wages as we know, 'supposedly', and jokers like Tevez will have to take a pay cut for their clubs to break even. However, our profits are only calculated via player sales and not door sales etc. I don't know about commercial revenue either. So fi there is a loop hole that lets Usmanov pay the club with his media company for foreign tv rights, then he could spend what he wanted as long as he paid us a bit more haha. I don't really understand FFP as you can probably tell, I don't think anyone does.

Not sure FFP has any bite to it, but can't claim to understand it either.

I think it was around 11,000 at the price he bought the shares for... This would hand Stan a tidy profit.

Gilo

Well if I'm not mistaken we have just over 62000 shares. Now with a 66% share (I'm just rounding here, calculator is too far away) that's just under 41,000 shares. Now if he's paid 11,000 per share and is being offered 14,000 per share that's a nice profit of about £122,760. Now I don't know Silent Stan (obviously) but to me for a business of his calibre that for a years work is probably quite poor (he probably earns more than that in interest) but if he was a sensible man, which I hope he is, he would realise that if he turns this down he will only be getting less and less as time goes on. So fingers crossed Kronke sees senses and just sells to Usmanov who can send up back up into the big leagues!

Are you sure that should'nt read £123m profit ?

That is actually 123 million pounds profit, which for only one year is quite impressive

Hes Not Trying To Buy Arsenal He's Just Trying To Buy Some Shares Of The Supporters Trust So He Can Get On The Board Then Well See What Happens From There

Woops yes i confused myself by forgetting to add the extra zeros, so 123m profit is definitely enough to get him to go!

Financial fair play is very complicated but from this year which is the first year of the FFP to be evaluated end of season.

There will be no penalties imposed but a assesment by UEFA to teams that do not meet the requirement to meet them.

The first 3 years a loss column of 45 million a year will be accepted. the following those 3 years it drops to 30 million loss and reduces every year to where it will be one day, aka the plan , clubs spend within their means.

It may seem like forever to have parity. but Clubs like Utd, chelsea, barcelona, inter, ac milan, city will have to curbe their spending as they have losses to clear first.

most teams outside of city would meet the requirements but that doesnt give them the 30mill + spending power they once had.

Teams like bayern and get this REAL MADRID make more money than they spend so they would be in a good position regardless.

Barcelona are currently churning out nearly 300 mill a year and if their youth comes thru they should be competetive for another 5-6 years break even and then be an even bigger powerhouse.

Arsenal are in a brilliant position, our revenues are 3rd best in the world. the only team in the FFP era to out buy us will still be madrid.

But considering we are showing profit every year or marginal losses, we have that 30 mill player at our disposal if necessary.

These tweets are from a joker account so believe what you will very diffiuclt for him to get to 30% given AST holdings

Mate It's All Over The Net

If Barca's youth was all that they wouldn't have needed to spend £50+ million on Fabregas and Sanchez.

Barcelona and Real Madrid makes BOATLOADS in TV money, which is why they are so dominant in spain (they get about 70+% of the TV money)

in england, the TV money is shared out equally between the 20 clubs (in the prem) which is why there's no gulf when Valencia (3rd last year IIRC) don't look half the team that Chelsea do

12 Oct 2011 18:14:14
idiot on talksport-a.durhum says van persies house is up for sale,is he leaving to russia?unsuprised that he's talkng negative about us as usual

Ha ha.

His house IS up for sale.

12 Oct 2011 11:11:45
Today we're being linked with Hazard (Arsenal have comp from Madrid - no sh**), Hulk (we'll have to pay more than 23m - seeing as I am sure they stuck an 88m clause on him I don't think that's either bad or true), apparently Man U are also after our target Montolivo, Abdennour from Toulouse has said himself that we're tracking him, which means we probably aren't, and typically we are apparently interested in Plymouth's Matt Lecointe, as are Man U and Liverpool.

I think wengers new target is a front man. Hulk seems like a realistic choice. No team will pay the 88 mill release clause.

Also teams like city, utd, liverpool, chelsea, barcelona, AC milan dont need a striker or are after another player, in madrids case neymar.

We may need to pony up close to 35 million to buy him. but porto own only 85% of his rights and have paid close to 19 mill euros. So Arsenal if they really are interested will have to pony up between 28-33 million to start the talks and then see about the third party agreement to buy him outright. Does that seem likely? i dont think so.

Unless we manage to sell persie for 35 million then i guess there is a chance.

Well I think if we are happy to look at a def mid we don't need for 25 mil and goetze for 35mil and hazard for 30 mil then I think we'd definitely consider 30m for Hulk. Is he woth it though?

For me hulk is exactly what we need. hes 25, he a big bully and he scores. Perfect combo of skill and size for EPL and arsenal.

Have persie play behind him and wilshere behind both of them.

Gervinho will get better with games, vermalen should be back soon so our back should be steady.

only flaw is the player to drive us aka wilshere is out until april.

Hulk would be an awesome buy he honestly is a great player. Suited perfectly for the premiership. The only problem is he is rather selfish when it comes to passing and with him on the ball you often see shots flying high and wide.

Then again as represented by his 30 odd goals last season quite a few of them fly into the top corner as well!

At this point in time I would go for two big buys. Gotze/ Hazard/ Hulk in any combination. We would probably need to fork out about 60 million. But then again Liverpool did it last season and look where they were, not even in the Champions League and in pretty poor shape. Then again they did turn out with one Bentdner shaped donkey and a Uraguyan that all though brilliant, would kill his own Grandmother to win a penalty...

Gilo