Arsenal Rumours Archive August 13 2012

13 Aug 2012 18:16:15
MUFC fan here guys come in peace. You have maybe been asked this question before but I was just wondering that if RVP was definitely going to leave but stay in England, which team would you prefer to see him go to between united and man city? I wondered wether you still saw us as your main trophy rivals after all the titanic tussles we've had over the years to win the premier league title, or you now see city as bigger rivals and have more of a hatred towards them because they have bought a lot of your players after you had made them into brilliant players and then went on to win the title with some of them. So if you had to see RVP leave to one of these clubs which one would it be? In my personal opinion you have been excellent in the transfer market so far and have a gut feeling RVP will stay with you, and that you have as good a chance as anyone of lifting a trophy this season. Good luck got the season. Slingers

The fact we are even considering selling him to either 1 of are main rivals is disgusting.. abroad, fair enough. would hate to see him at either. prob prefer him to go city with the others, think city will win title again, so its us and you for second i reckon and rvp would tip the balance in your favour.

Get over yourself

Personally, I couldn't give a monkey's a55 where he ends up. He will spend more time in the treatment room, then out on the pitch.

Rather non but if one city, united are our main rivals city buy players for over the odds and they all end up from first team to bench earners which I couldnt be happier about, they've bought success as Chelsea did but it won't last long

IMO I'd hate to see him go to either but at least if he goes to UTD he's joining a club with history that has challenged on all fronts for god knows how many years, rather than just be a blatant mercenary and join City where to be honest he'd spend a lot of time on the bench.

Smirnoff Red

Much rather see him at Citeh

NorthWest Gooner

To be honest letting any of our players go to City or Utd is strengthening a rival and I would not like any of our players to go, but when you are left in a situation where a player wants to go we have a choice of selling him, getting some cash to reinvest or letting him go for nothing. If Wenger is just stalling the inevitable, it is clearly in favour of Utd for as long as we wait the less Utd will offer hoping that they will pick him on a pre-contract in Jan. The only solution for me, IF RvP will not be convinced to stay is to sell and quickly. Again IF he stays for 1 season and IF we do challenge for the title with Utd, where would the player's loyalty lie - wouldn't be interesting if the crunch game was with Utd, ir if Arsenal shocked the world a won the league when he has already committed his future to Utd ? Too many negatives for me...either sell him quick or sign a new deal...stalling is not a option.

What a nce fella

I would straight up refuse to sell to either of you, you're both rivals, you're ahead of us as it is, why would we strengthen either of you? It would be madness, just for the money? If that's the case then it's plain for everybody to see that profit is more important than trophies

To answer your question: i do not want to see him join either of the clubs. he should stay and give his best like he did last year. then he can do whatever he wants (no matter if we win a title or not)

Stefan

Personally, I would prefer RVP go to City rather than United. Although I feel City are more of a threat, my hatred is much stronger for United. The players that left for City were not very well-liked in the first place.

When City beat you, you feel as though you lost to a good club of soulless mercenaries. When United beat you, you always feel cheated.

There is no way a team as weak as United can come so close to the title as they did last year without something sinister going on. Hopefully, when Ferguson goes this will come to an end.

I for one would prefere he went to Untd if he had to stay in the premiership, but I would be pushing him to move outside the English league as much as possible, even if it meant only getting £10m, i think it would be better business !! ( obviously with a clause that we get a percentage of any future sales ) :-)

If any prem team id love him to go to someone like sunderland but thats unlikly. Out of the two Manc Clubs it would have to be Utd. Id hate it just like i dislike utd (but in the upmost respect coz no one can deny your a great club, one one ever dislike a s**t team, hence why even I dont mind that club dwn the road). As a Arseanl and a football fan, nothing pi**es me off more than a club that cant do anything else but buy a league and dont care if its for the future good of the club, the players or even football in general.

Id rather he went to citeh, because theyre not a proper club, and winning the prem with them, aint no real achievement.

A GOONER

Personally "if" he did go to either i would prefer him to go to utd, as you say we used to be the main rivals for the title but that has changed now, chelsea and now city have ruined the league with their spending, i don't think we are genuine contenders this year to be honest with you, maybe if rvp and song stay and wilshere gets back relatively early in the season we then have a chance, good luck next year ;)

In peace or no peace. I cant stand united! The thing with city is, yes they have taken quite a lot of players but theyve usually paid good coin to get them. The RVP situation for fergie was practically win win. Put a low bid in and If rvp joins then man utd are getting one of the premier leagues best strikers OR if he doesnt join he has been unsettled, has lost the love of the fans because he wanted to go to our big rivals and is unlikely to repeat his performance levels of last season because of this, which will benefit utd in the league.
I cant stand the man but Fergie is no mug. what a way to jepordise a potential title rival.

In saying that wenger has responded superbly, bringing in top class players at reasonable prices. The mans shown you dont need to go out and blow 30m plus on one player if you shop about.

am i the only one who thinks WE REALLY NEED A LEFT BACK though!

Arsenal Forever

I'd prefer he combusted spontaneously.

D

Not city- hate sugar daddies.

But tbh neither, so you're asking a tough question. Bottom line is most arsenal fans wouldn't want rvp to go to another top 4 team within the pl.

We have podolski, carzola, Giroud, Walcott, and if VP leaves wenger will sign another top foward, if he leaves its up to him hes 29 and injury prone, yes hes a fantastic footballer and i would love him to sign a new contract but to be honest if a player says he wants to leave a club that should be it. i dont think it makes much difference who he goes to either man city already have around 6 strikers , and van p would be second fiddle to rooney if he went to united

I would resent him if he moved to Citeh, but I would loathe him if he went to you lot...

CLewis

I would rather see him in city for two reasons. they will pay us good and he won't play many games for them because they have aguero and the italian boy head of rvp.

Arsenal are not anyones throphy rival lets get that straight

pinky

3 little letters most of us Gooners will I think agree with:

A.B.U......it means Anyone but United if you were wondering :)

Eire Goon

I would rather see him go city than man u because i see man u as the main rivals, we will have to watch chelsea also i dont think man city to be in top two this season..

If it's a choice between United or City, that's a toughie.
Torquay United?
Bradford City?
If he's not staying at the Emirates,I don't give a monkey's.

Rather he go to city (Utd and Spuds will ALWAYS be our main enemy) and become just another number. It might give him a slap in the face and help him realise that no player is bigger than their club and the team ethics.
Wenger done well to keep him fit last season but it won't be long til he's in the treatment room again.

Rather we let him run out his contract. When he gets injured then what will he do. Arsenal have him for another 12 months keep him

City. Any AFC fan who really wouldn't mind seeing him in a Manu shirt has a very short memory.

Spurs

Again I would rather neither but of I had to choose then City - i'm still in the anyone but man u camp cos I hate the way everything is biased towards them. By the way I know the current fashion is to criticise city for buying the league - and they have- buy it amazes me how quickly people forget that Man u have done this for years. George is a hypocrite slating man city and psg for the money they spend with his 30m centre half, 25m on an 18 yr old Rooney, 17m carrick, 30m berbatov, 17m Anderson, and so and so on. The idea that he develops team is a complete myth and founded on one freakishly talented group of academy players who came through 20 yrs ago!

"Arsenal are not anyones throphy rival lets get that straight pinky "

haha the arrogance of money- at least when we do it will be so much the sweeter and wont be subsidised by a sugar daddy who has spent 1 billion and counting- what a joke - who are u b4 one rich individual?

go away these pages are for proper football clubs, not billionaire's play things...the citeh pages will like you. {Ed035's Note - I don't know why you bother replying to pinky, he is the most delusional poster ever to come onto this site. I bet his mum dosent know he's using her laptop...

If he goes to either of you..., he NEVER loved Arsenal.

I have a feeling he will extend his contract,though.

If it was a ploy (by RVP) to get the board to show some ambition, then I'd say it's genius and it's worked and RVP will stay... but if not, then we should sell him asap to anyone outside the epl.

Call me optimistic.

KasDaGunner

He wants to leave because he feels Arsenal lacks ambition. If we sell to one of our biggest rivals in the premiership we would be proving his point by weakening our team whilst strengthening thiers. Logically therefore not selling him to either would deny his point and surely make him happy!

He's been on the treatment room for years, Wenger stuck by him, then when he has 1 good full season he chooses to leave instead of repaying with loyalty when the club needed him. I hope he gets sold to Utd for £25m, then be an injury case for the rest of his contract, gets denched by Frimpong and end up making a YouTube video to prove his fitness, get signed by Blackburn on a pay as you play contract

That last post really took off towards the end... Classic! Pinky sounds like a proud 'city' fan, and I couldn't agree more with the post about arsenal fans with short memories. How could you possibly not mind selling to united. It's not just united it's fergie too. I know arsene is far to clever to make a deal with the devil especially for a 35 goal a season captain regardless of his injury record. In my opinion you're as good as your last season and for RVP that's far more than 15 million. I also think this is a dirty play by fergie to unsettle a player who could clearly cause him some problems next year with the new signings we've made and if his plan "backfires" he's landed the best striker in the prem. that's why we will never deal with fergie.

You see, this is very strange situation xD. He sad that he wanted to leave the club, and he really meant that. But now, what happened? He can go either to Man City or Utd. Possible scripts: He goes to Man City, and what happens, he surely won't play as the main striker, because Aguero is hero now there, and the other place in front, well he would play, but also Tevez, Dzeko, Baloteli and the rest would play, and RVP would play barely a half of season. If he goes to Utd, first, he will always be just a shadow for Rooney, and second, there are also many players who can can play forward. Even I think that he will play more in Utd, he also is aware that Man Utd was, is, and probably will be one of Arsenal greatest rivals, so, every potential mistake that he makes will make Man Utd fans, in that time his fans, very unhappy because he played in Arsenal xD. That is why is this situation taking this long, because now, even he doesn't know what to do xD

Hope he go to city cause he will be on the bench and doesn't affect results :D

AHHH! the gooners piping up cos they signed a few players! are u hearing urselfs going on bout winning throphys! u havent won zip for how long! wot makes u think u gonna win somthing now

pinky

You may just go away in peace too.

Man city because no matter what they win, it doesn't really count, does it?

And Utd are Utd. ABU

As other people have been saying, if I had to choose between the two I would rather see him at City because they are not a proper club. It's not a real achievement to win anything with City, and most players just go there for money anyway.

Guys

I say let RVP rot on the bench all season or be given the option to buy his own contract out at an inflated price of 20m+ , by doing this we will see if he is really chasing trophies or if its about the Money.

Gooner4Life

Sell him to soccer-land instead

He is more likely to get kicked up int he air at City...and only end up playing 4 games all season :)

Clear out our site mate you're taking the piss , must think / feel superior to hear man utd wanting to buy a top Arsenal player i'l tell you what, we know this exactly how united want us to feel which is why fergie is doing it. So, having said, don't you come on here trying to ask this same embarrassing question yeh! so chuck off bro! And that goes also for your fans working for Bdc football press yeh!

13 Aug 2012 15:58:56
llorente has said he wants to quit a.bilboa?? spellin not quite right...lol wenger rates this player so lets ship out rvp & get another striker in that is a top quality goal scorer before he goes elsewhere... lets show rvp that we aint waiting for him to make his mind up lets buy llorente then sell van persie.... no player is bigger than arsenal football club!!

Well said, completely agree.

Well said no player bigger than the club

I swear i will kill someone if I ever hear that stupid "no player is bigger than the club" thing on emore time-.-' one person said this stupid sentence once and all the little kids speak the same s***....

Whos the little kid if you dont like peoples rumours get off the rumour page person!

XD so it is a rumour if you say : no one is bigger than the club?^^ oh you!:)

Haha spot on mate. that would be jokes. I would pay good money to see van persie's face when llorente turns up at the training ground

I would like us to purchase a striker with potential , that is, one who is young as both Podolski and Giroud are ready and able to deliver. - maybe Andy Carroll if we can get him for GBP17m?
Cazorla(spelling i know) will deliver the balls for either of those two to score and are wingers also provide enough assists for our strikers to score.

13 Aug 2012 12:42:59
Do we need Mexes? Imo, No.

Do we want him? I hope not.

Do we rate him? I don't. I thought he was vile for Milan, he is one of the dirtiest players I have seen for a long time. I remember a blatant foul, he didn't even get carded, commentators were saying 'cynical challenge, poor but typical play from Mexes there' and the other guy saying sth like 'well that's what we all expect from Mexes, he's a very cynical player, he seems to thrive off deliberate bad challenges' or something.

I am also annoyed that he kept Koscielny out of the France squad for no apparent reason.

Do I see logic in the rumours going round? Nope.

To the poster, spot on mate hes sh*t

You have answered yourself mate. Koscielny is our first team centre-back and he is rated higher than Koscielny in his country. Ok hes getting old but I do rate him. How many Milan games have you actually seen last season?
polishgunner

Polish- it was pretty common opinion that Mexes shouldn't have been in the starting line up for France actually. When questioned about this, the France coach made it very clear he had assessed Arsenal's league place over individual performance - something that fans and Wenger found incredibly insulting. I don't think the second best defender in the prem last season(behind Kompany) should have had to sit on the bench while Mexes played, and I am certainly not the only one who thought this at the time. The fact that Mexes was then announced as CB of the tournament even though France got dumped out of it is further testament to that nonsense. How many Arsenal games did you watch, I could ask? Because judging by the comments on here, all year, it is pretty clear that mos believe that Koscielny was one of the top 3 cbs in europe last year, and Mexes wasn't.

I taught ye would all be happy hes not in france s starting 11.nice n fresh for the new season..

When we signed Squillaci and Koscielny, one of them was an established international and the other pretty much unknown

Agreed mexes is trash, besides can't see why AW would be intrested. 30+

I'm happy he's out the france squad and fresh n ready 4 sunderland


KAY9

13 Aug 2012 10:41:06
Looks like Ryo is on his way to either Wigan or Blackburn for the season.

Anyone else sad to this happen?

Not sad, as he needs another season to play & mature physically.

Honestly yes , but we have serious competion for places this year, and will doubt hell get much playing time, him going to the likes of wigan to get some game time can only be good.

He would suit Wigan , he will be a keyplayer to there team..

Id rather see him in pl than in the championship + wigan play more attractive football than bb

This will be a loan move so im chuffed if he. goes to wigan he will learn how to play football, remebering that wigan out played us in april
Saint arsensl

No, we have alot of wingers, he needs first team appearances

No, it's a good move, he'll get much needed game time with them, he's not ready for us yet imo!
Metal Gooner

Not sad at all, Wigan will be a great place for him, he'll get game time and the 3-4-3 they play will be perfect for him as a winger

Sheeny

Not at all, it's a great move for him. AFC are well stocked on the flanks with Podolski, Gervinho, Walcott, Ox, plus perhaps Arshavin, and with Carzola also able to play wide. Wigan & Martinez play good football and the chance for him to get week in week out experience in a team that likes to move the ball around well will only benefit him and AFC in the long term.

No. I posted this earlier but one of the eds must have blocked it, but I heard Al-Habsi's accidentally come out and said that Ryo will be joining Wigan on loan. Premiership team, could have Moses (their star player) leaving, good football, gracious manager... there are worse clubs to go on loan to.

By the way ed, why didn't you put mine through? I thought it was a fair post and I made some decent points :(

Think this is a real shame. He looks like he is going to be a very very impressive player for us and I would have liked to see him integrated into the team as early as possible.

Although experience of the PL will continue to stand him in good stead and will help him improve, would like to have seen that development be within the Arsenal unit.

I wonder if Ryo is going out because of how impressive Gnarbry has been?

I'm glad, he never got the chance to shine last season before his loan, and once AOC came along, that got even harder, I personally think we'll se him excell at Wigan, playing a formation made for wingers, with a good manager and I think he'll come back to the emirates next season ready to give our wingers a run. For their money! I see him as the future of our wide positions, where as AOC is our future in general.

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