Arsenal Rumours Archive August 15 2016

 

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15 Aug 2016 21:49:19
I hope Wenger wouldn't come out saying there were no strikers available who would improve our squad because there's Lacazette who imo is better than walcott now.
If Wenger had told us that moving to our new stadium would stop us from winning major trophies, i wouldn't have gone down well with that. I would have loved us to remain at Highbury and then maintain our invincible squad than to experience this nightmare!
No ambition, no intent, no hunger and desire, no mental strength.
The best always settles for the best. We are supposed to settle for nothing than a win. Look at Barca, always hungry for trophies, the likes of Madrid, Bayern, Juve and other elite teams among europe are never satisfied. Yet here we are showing hunger for top 4 spot rather than the ultimate prize (the epl title) .

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16 Aug 2016 09:02:52
i think stan kroenke is not as silent as people think. just looking at all the sports teams he owns and well, just look at them, even those which seem to do well at one point no longer do.

at this rate it won't be long before spurs are in front only because the owner could not care more than the bottom line.

too many people who are taking this club no where. needs a complete overhaul of owner and directors and manager.

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16 Aug 2016 10:38:02
Could not agree more matey, I'm not saying I think Wenger is not at fault because he seems to be so stubborn when it comes to his transfer policy but I've no doubts things would be no better under somebody else.

The board, Stan and Ivan are just has guilty and they all need to go. We've become a laughing stock in football and they are exploiting the fans unconditional love for the club. It is a joke!

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16 Aug 2016 15:16:15
I think Wenger (and sometimes fans too) has a tendency to misunderstand what would constitute an improvement to our squad. If Giroud is your first choice striker (let's say he's a 7.5/ 10 as a lone striker) , and Walcott, Alexis, and Welbeck (for the sake of argument, 6.5/ 10, 6.5/ 10, 7/ 10, and 5.5/ 10 respectively as lone strikers) also get game-time up top on their own, then you don't need someone >7.5/ 10 to improve your squad, simply someone >6.5/ 10.

The secondary consideration is value. If getting a 6.6/ 10 will cost a huge amount, I can understand the argument that says not to buy them. It doesn't, however, mean that there isn't anyone out there who would improve our squad, simply that it might not be good/ the best use of that money.

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16 Aug 2016 15:51:39
I don't agree with the fees that players cost now adays.

however if the fans who watch the games and buy merchandise and subscribe to the sports packages are not given what they want which is investment in the team, they have every right to be angry and upset.

how can a club which is the probably the second richest in england and spent only 10 mill last year not go out and address the issues of the team?

they need a CB yes it will cost 40 mill pay it and get it done because its already shown how badly it failed in game 1.

so to go into the next 2 games and to come away with 0-2 points is going to be a disaster, and the fans have every right to be upset.

i don't care this season if the club is 10th or 15th, there are issues which need to be addressed long term.

Puma had to release a statement recently to support the fans i mean something is seriously wrong.

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16 Aug 2016 18:50:10
Long time reader here, I've only posted a few times, but I don't really understand all of the blaming of Kroenke. Certainly you can make the argument that none of his other teams are particularly successful, but I've always been of the opinion that those most responsible for the performance of a business/ club is the management. Kroenke hasn't paid himself any dividends, and he earned the name silent stan for both his reluctance to appear in the media in addition to his hands off approach to management, which can certainly be a virtue as investment foresight and the ability to manage a business are two completely different skills.

If you look at arsenal from an ownership perspective, you'd be pretty content as well. Even though the fans are clearly discontent, they're not really translating that discontent in a way that an owner will feel the need to intervene in some way. The revenue is still increasing each year and the waiting list for season tickets is still 10,000 or so.

The problem is management, and while I'm not going to pretend to understand how all of the upper level decision making occurs at Arsenal, I don't think that I'm making an unreasonable assumption. Maybe its fair as fans that we expect Kroenke to do something about this issue; but I can't see anything happening unless people stop renewing season tickets/ purchasing gameday tickets. Its like complaining about apple and then going out and buying the new iPhone every year. Maybe you can say that football club is different than any other business but I don't really see how fans can expect the owner to think that way.

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16 Aug 2016 20:24:37
Hoover kronke when he bought the club made a statement " you don't buy a club just to win championships" maybe that explains the mindset of the owner. Every one at this club, work for kronke and they all do it with the knowledge he is not motivated by trophies. Google stanley kronke and you will be enlightened.

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16 Aug 2016 20:48:29
Kroenke didn't buy the club he is just the majority share holder.

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16 Aug 2016 22:20:39
I thought i made it prett clear that I understand that he's a businessman first and foremost. I'm American, and have friends from St Louis and have had to listen to them whine about him moving their team to LA for months; a decision any owner in their right mind would do if they had the opportunity to do so. I've known about Kroenke for some time and the way he operates. Most club owners are businessmen, they have no requirement to care about the club on the personal level, its an investment. Investors are almost never directly responsible for the success of the company, the management is, therefore in my opinion gazidis and wenger are far more responsible than Stan is. We have the money and I honestly believe they have just chosen not to spend it.

My point was also that if the fans want to signal to the owner that a change in management be made then they need to stop supporting the club financially. I also don't buy the whole conspiracy that the club has been buying one player at the beginning of the transfer window to get people to renew their season tickets and then subsequently ending their activity in the market. Most people renew their tickets in April/ Early May before the season has even ended.

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17 Aug 2016 02:51:45
completely agree with you laker! Kroenke, Gazidis and Wenger all need to get out. They are in it for the money and that is not fair on the fans or players!

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15 Aug 2016 18:24:24
David Ornstein, of the BBC (I know there are mixed opinions of him here! ) says the following;

Arsenal yet to agree fee for Mustafi. #AFC considering Omer Toprak and Simon Kjaer as alternatives but Mustafi remains priority and keen to join


Price the issue. Arsenal want to hold back funds for possible striker signing. #AFC transfer budget factors in fee, salary, agent commission


If this all true or not, I've no idea personally, but that's his line on It!

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15 Aug 2016 19:18:05
Hard to know what to believe at the minute from any of the usual channels.

I can see the window shutting with no more signings, I've honestly never felt so despondent about the start of a season, ever.

I'll never speak badly of AW after all he's given us, but until things change he/ we won't be doing anything differently.

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16 Aug 2016 03:12:15
Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves, seasons aren't won and lost on the first week of the season. The last few seasons we've lost the first games of the season and been leading by Christmas. Fatigue and injuries set in and we lose it in the new year. Wenger giving key players a rest is essential to us staying the distance.

If we've learnt anything over the last few seasons it's that big name signings aren't a guarantee of success. I would argue that Leicester won last year primarily because the usual title challengers have been messing up their team cohesion by changing their squads every season. If spending was a guarantee of success then Manchester United would win every year.

The only thing signing players like Zidane and Pogba guarantees you is better shirt sales.

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16 Aug 2016 13:44:25
I don't understand why they state that the players future salary needs to be taken from the transfer budget, it can't be true. You don't save up for a car, then when you go to buy it they ask for an extra lump sum payment to cover your petrol and insurance for the next 5 years. Ultimately future salaries is an annual cost to a business, not a lump sum paid in advance.

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16 Aug 2016 15:06:16
The reality of how and when transfer fees and wages are accounted for is not always instinctive. Transfer fees often include large up-front payments, but player amortisation occurs over the duration of the contract. Read The Swiss Ramble (specifically the 12th paragraph of Show Me The Money) .

When buying a player, you have to consider everything that will affect your your expenses and your revenue. That means the transfer fee, the player's wage, the length of their contract, and any bonuses. And it also means marginal commercial, matchday, and broadcasting revenues. I agree that you don't need to think of a 5-year £100,000 a week contract as being an up-front lump sum payment, but conversely, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist.

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