Arsenal Rumours Archive July 16 2011

16 Jul 2011 20:33:04
I have just had a thought, should we try and get hleb as part of the fabregas deal could be useful if we cannot agree on valuation and could be a useful squad player, we would still need to spend the money on a new player(maybe mata or benzema)

I thnk hleb moved to birmingham...moreover he is past his prime...sad to see how his career turned out

'sad to see how his career turned out' LOL, put him in a care home he can't do anything anymore.

Didnt hleb say he would play for free for arsenal if given the chance. sounds good get rid of denilson and stick hleb on the bench

That was only a loan to birmingham, to my knowledge hes back to barca. he did look pretty poor last year but maybe he could rediscover his form. or turn out like ros**tsky...

Hleb was a fantastic player for us and ide love to see him back , not sure how good he still is tho

Scored 3 goals in the time he was here, not a fantastic player, greedy get, moved on , good riddance

Dont want Hleb anywhere near our club again after how happy he seemed to be headed to Barca. Not to mention he clearly has very little to offer any more

All you anti-Hleb peeps know nothing. Hleb was quality at AFC and you don't just go from quality to crap overnight. Hleb himself said that he had made a mistake leaving Arsenal. But then again all you haters never made a mistake huh?

Hleb was a quality player while he was here, even though many will use his numbers to argue against that. But just because he admitted his mistake in leaving the club does not mean we should all be happy to have him back. There's a reason he has barely played for Barcelona since leaving and his form for Stuttgart and Birmingham over the last couple seasons in no way suggests he will magically improve if he returns.

16 Jul 2011 16:40:02
song is not a top defensive midfield man.he cant tackle for a start which is not good in that position.i know people keep saying on here we dont think wenger will sign a def mid, but the reality is we need to.if you like me think song is way overrated vote.

I hate it when people say song is overrated. no he isn't. if he is deployed to sit infront of the back four then he will do it and he will do it well. Remember the United game where rooney didn't get a sniff? Song had him in his back pocket the whole game. The reality is Wenger doesn't tell him to sit infront of the back four. the 3 in the middle rotate in their duties I.E if wilshere and fab go forward then song will stay back, if song and fab go forward then wilshere will sit back

No need in signing a def-mid, we have frimpong coming in this season

I think overrated is harsh... but his not the solid DM we need. imo his a very squad player.

COULDN'T AGREE MORE, A TOP DEF MIDFIELDER IS SOMEBODY LIKE VIEIRA, KEANE, DE ROSSI ETC.

IF WE WANT TO BE A TOP NOTCH TEAM THEN SONG SHOULD BE COVER FOR DEF MID AND CB BUT NOT A GUARANTEED STARTER.

WOULD HE START FOR BARCA ? REAL ? THE JUVE OR UNITED TEAM OF THE EARLY 2000'S ? OR EVEN THE ARSENAL TEAM THAT HAD VIEIRA OR PETIT ? NO CHANCE.

WE ALL NEED TO REALISE THAT HE IS EITHER GOOD ENOUGH TO START FOR A " GOOD SIDE " OR GOOD ENOUGH FOR COVER FOR A " GREAT SIDE "

HE IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT .. SIMPLE AS THAT.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD A PROPER DM PLAYER GIBERTO SILVA WAS ON THE BOOKS

He may not be GREAT but he saved us more times than he let us down last season In my opinion he was one of the reasons that we came 4th and not 5th or 6th, nuff said

I would love a player in the de rossi mould, but i think far more likely will be promoting from within, and i think, along with song who i think is a perfectly good dm, frimpong should be given a chance to step up. ive heard good things, anyone think he'll make 1st team squad?

To come 4th instead of 5th or 6th ? u could argue that he is a reason we came 4th and not 3rd or 2nd....

I agree with the 2nd post, in the trio of Song, Fabregas and Wilshere we have a brilliant midfield as they are equally good in attacking and defending, for me all we need is a quality centre back, a left back and a replacement for Bendtner.

If Song was to sit and actually play the defensive midfielder role, then we would be a better team, no doubt. We leave ourselves so open because everyone bombs forward and leaves the defence exposed. We should still without doubt sign a new centre back, but i think that a new defensive midfielder or Song deciding to do his job properly then we would be much more solid defensively.

JH.

I spent years hating him & demanding that he be sold (along w/ Diaby, Bendtner, & Denilson). A couple years ago, I started changing my tune though. He's really come along well. He battles hard and wears his heart on his sleave.
We need defenders... not a DM.

Frimpong? Are you AW? He is nowhere near ready yet, not if we wanna challange for honours anyway, in a few years he might be who knows. We are Arsenal for crying out load not West Ham. We should be signing the best players in the world, not saying lets give this youth player who has never played an EPL game before to step straight in. Its this type of view that means why we are where we are at the mo, winning f*** all.
I also agree with he post about De rossi, this is the type of player we should be aiming for, not settling for Frimpong

Hopeful Gooner

Want to moan about our central midfielders try Denilson (who doesn't pass forward) or Diaby (who despite his potential, absolutely nothing happens when he gets the ball).

IMO, if you look at it, the part of last season that we struggled the most was when song was hurt. we had no one to sit in that hole (although he likes to bomb forward sometimes), diaby aint a holding player, and denilson...is denilson. enough said. de rossi would be ideal but cant see the boss going for him. song just needs to sit in the hole and be content with his role of not scoring goals and we'd be a better team.

In arsene we trust?

If Wenger doesn't wind up signing another CB (but please do Arsene), any chance Song will partner TV5 in the back 4? I believe he (Song) plays there for the Cameroon national team... and he may be more reliable than Kos or Djourou. Ramsey and Wilshere look quite capable to control the central midfield.

Some people here are just idiots that take scousers as the ones in the know if any of you guys really call yourselves die hard arsenal fans and watch every SINGLE game like i do, you would know that we are lucky not to have Song asking for a transfer He is simply amazing. Just because few people talk about him it doesn't mean he is not as good as De Rossi and players as such in his position. Are you guys out of your marbles?? This guy i the future, you have no idea how technically gifted Song is as DCM, he sometimes has the touch of a super slow, Sergio Batista. My dear friends, watch more Arsenal games then judge the gaffer's choice of starting him game after game and never looking for a replacement for him

I don't rate Song as a 1st team DMF either. Don't get me wrong, he's not a donkey, but he is no more than a squad player for me.

All players, but especially central players, must have the (natural) ability to read the game. That's why even slow players can be good. Better to be in the right position at the right time than be very quick and have to make up ground.

To me Song lacks this and subsequently positions himself poorly, which results in him having to make up ground (now that maybe as a result of instructions with regard to the tactics and shape, but it is one of the reasons why we tend to be exposed). It takes time to make up the ground and by the time he does, play has moved on. He then has to make a challenge due to the danger and this is more likely to result in a foul.

He then looks slow and clumsy.

If you watch the best DMFs they close more play down by being in the right place at the right time than they do by actually tackling.

I'd like to see a more experienced DFM brought in. This would help both Song and Frimpong.

Long time Gooner, short time lurker.

P.S - it's imperative that we have the ability to shut teams out at 1-0 if needed.

Sorry but i think last season song was one of our better players and we need another player like him in the team. He gets stuck in with his tackles can create chances and even score if we had another player similar to him in the team arsenal would be a better side and we wouldnt get bullied by the likes of stoke etc

He goes missing and is also a little lazy - he has loads of potential though as does Diaby - along with a couple of others they really need to step-up this coming season or we should get shot of 'em.

16 Jul 2011 14:03:32
Hey lads, what's the current score? Who scored? Who's playing well? Who's playing crap? Sorry for all the questions my Arsenal player is down :/. Cheers.

Ben {Ed002's Note - This might help:

HOW TO WATCH FOOTBALL ON THE INTERNET (WITH THANKS TO RED LENIN)
1. Install the browser Google Chrome.

2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.

3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.

4. Click on extensions

5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.

6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.

7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install. (it may download to a holding file in the bottom left as you look at it, in which case as soon as it's finished click there, but mostly it will install itself)

8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that, select 'live stream' and reset the clock to GMT and it will list all the live games available all over europe and other places.

You may occasionally need to install other programmes or the link you pick will only work on Explorer (in which case cut and paste the URL into Explorer), but you will always get every EPL match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You'll get about thirty links and you may have to look through a lot of them to get what you want. You will also get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches as well as top matches from South America.

Someone also asked about viruses etc. Google Chrome is actually far more secure than Internet Explorer so the risks are considerably less, but you should have decent virus/spyware programmes and run sweeps regularly as a matter of course.

The quality will also depend on the speed of your internet connection. If you have super-speed and have a modern HD TV, consider connecting your PC to the TV via the PC socket on the side/ back.

Cut and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.

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16 Jul 2011 09:34:38
Heard arsenal are trying to sign Costa Rica striker Joel Campbell... he looks decent and has scored some quality goals, would do as great back up for van persie and is a bargin @£2mil.. hopefully we sign Benzema, we would have a great strike force then even though goals have never been a problem.

INS:
Benzema
Mata
Cahill or Hangeland
Joel Campbell
Scott Parker

OUTS:
Almunia
Denilson
Squaillaci
Bendtner
Fabregas(0nly for £37mil+)

lifetime gooner

15 Jul 2011 21:22:38
Ed002 do you agree that song is slightly over rated and leaves us vulnerable at the back when he attacks. Also if nasri stays he should definatley not be made captain as he lacks the loyalty we require. I also think subotic would be the best cb signing. {Ed002's Note - Subotic would be a great signing but I don't see him moving to Arsenal. Song is decent player. As for Nasri I would not be surprised to see him offered the armband to try and persuade him to stay.}

Song is one of our best players

A GOONER

16 Jul 2011 09:06:34
The Sun are reporting that Arsenal have tabled a £14m offer for Anderlecht striker Romelu Zkukaku.

Aussie Gooner