Arsenal Rumours Archive May 17 2012

 

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17 May 2012 22:49:25
Anyone else real nervous about Wilshire's injury?


North Carolina Gooner.

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Wilshere's mother.
Arsene Wenger
Jack

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Im more worried that we wont buy any good players, lose robin van persie, and drop out of contention for top 4.

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Yes, absolutely. I think Wilshire will need a lot of time to get back to being truely injury free. We have seen this with Vermaelen, RVP, Diaby and Rosicky.

A player does not magically go from not playing for an entire year back to full fitness and doing 40-50 matches.

Billybob

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Arsenal want him for the long haul...anything and everything will be done to make sure he has a long term fitness...no shortcuts...they want him to lead this club...it does not effect his time table it just means hes having a procedure as they found something hurting him.

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It does seem very concerning,as these injuries can uncover other problems during rehabilitation.A player of Wilshere's age should have a fairly speedy recovery time,but at the moment he is struggling.Hopefully we will see him back soon,fingers crossed.
Braintreegooner

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Didn't someone post on here a while ago that the injury could result in him not returning to football at all? They insinuated that if he did he would move to another club to seek better medical care. Hope that's not the case as he's an amazing prospect for England and Arsenal.

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17 May 2012 22:44:26
I really wouldn't expect any big name signings until the futures of Bendtner, Arshavin, Vela, Denison, Aluminia and fingers crossed squallici are sorted.

There is a lot of wages tied up in these players and until they are off the wage bill no-one should expect anything to happen.

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Well seems like the most accurate post here. I am very sceptical about the concept we are going to make any big signings whatever happens.
Arsene is already sending the same old signals that there will be no major additions, don't listen to the press or The Board, listen to him.
RVP will turn into yet another saga, and yet again disrupt our whole summer. Will he leave? I did think not but I am beginning to change my mind. This feels all too familiar, we will waste time trying to keep someone but never do anything that might really keep him. Meantime I worry another season with no investment. Let's be clear Stoke and QPR have spent net more than us over the recent years, so do not expect any change now. Certainly the post here is right - not before others have left.

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I tend to agree with this - and while many fans will complain, it is the best move. Too many fans assume there is a magic chest full of money sitting underneath Wenger's desk.

Arsenal is a company, and like any other company has a balance sheet which needs to be managed.

In order to make the big signing that everyone craves - they have to first free up capital... Clearing out will always precede spending? (at any well managed club...).

Billybob

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Almunia and Squillacci are free agents this summer.
Bendtner will have plenty of clubs after him, he has shown he can score goals given the chance
Vela has stated he wants to leave and Sociedad will buy him

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I never knew we had a player called aluminium lol

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17 May 2012 22:15:06
Arsenal will bring in the following players before euro 2012: Yann mvila, Matiaz Suarez , Shinji Kagawa and Mohammado Sakho

The MAstergooner

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Kagawa will go to utd he wants dem more and day can outbid us plus day win trophies...sakho will b good

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Slightly believable until you suggested we will buy multi billionaire PSG's Captain and est defender?

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At the most we will get M'Vila.

I still believe this deal has been wrapped up - and Wenger is turning his attention to managing the rest of the squad.

Extending contracts, selling/loaning out players.

I think at most we could see 1 more signing near the close of the window depending on players available, price and most importantly the views taken on Wilshrie and Diaby.

Billybob

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Under Ancelotti, Sakho is not first choice. I'm just being padantic, don't know why I'm fighting this corner. This will definitely not happen.

In Arsene I Trust.

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All more than possible.

M'Vila seems a done deal.

Kagawa would cost less than £10m given he's going in to his final year, he probably grew up watching Wenger in the J League, he'll know Myaichi, Podolski and Mertesacker in some respect, he would suit our style... he's taylor made for Arsenal!

Suarez would be a great buy. A young, all-round striker coming from a league and a team that wouldn't expect a hefty transfer fee. He's solid enough to handle the prem, and young enough to accept a place BEHIND RvP.

Sakho is out of favour at PSG. Whether or not he's their best defender, whether or not he's their captain, if he wants to elave and he's not important enough to them for him to be starting every game (or at least coming off the bench every other game) then they'll be willing to sell... can we match his wage demands though? Another Sol Campbell?

All possible! REALLY hoping for Kagawa though.

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Kagawa's probably going to go for 12-15 on the cheaper side. And United are definitely favorite.

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17 May 2012 22:40:33
Buy Lavezzi....RVP will stay, we can afford Lavezzi's wages, and we offer him Champions League football

RVP, Poldi, Lavezzi, Ox, Walcott and Ryo is a serious attack...and made for our 4-3-3 regardless of who we use

Lavezzi can play any position up front....Wenger's style

Poldi-RVP-Lavezzi is an interchangeable/unstoppable attack

Wishful thinking, but what a signing it would be. One would assume Wenger was watching how Lavezzi played against Chelsea...

US Gooner

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Lavezzi's on his way to PSG.

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That's it looks RVP is off! If he was going to sign he would have done it before the Euros. Cant stand it if we see yet another Arsenal player heading to Man City. Get the Russian in now if we are going to compete with City, Utd and Chelsea!!

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17 May 2012 22:17:36
{Ed022's note - brand new player profile on Joao Moutinho of FC Porto. www.player-profiles.co.uk - cheers all!}

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17 May 2012 18:42:52
® it seems that next season the thing which will win us trophies is successful partnerships. Vermaelen and Koscielny at the back. Song and M'vila in midfield. Rvp and Podolski up front. With Sagna, Wilshere, Walcott, Chamberlain, Arteta, Rosicky as the world class players around them who will be able to compliment these partnerships. Eds what do you think chances of Kagawa coming to arsenal are, apparently offer has been accepted and utd too. whats the story?

james

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17 May 2012 16:22:37
I honestly believe that the real transfer saga this window will be song and I hope he does not leave.People say he is not a natural DM and all sorts but once he is gone everyone will realise what we had and what we miss . I hope we get M'villa to partner him so song is able to roam a bit more.
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I the of opposite opinion - Song is overrated , clumpsy lazy and gives the ball away far too much for my likeing. Arteta and Wilsehre must be ahead of Song in the pecking as there superior players and I would like one midfileder brought in to play alongside Wilshere and Arteta.

Luke

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Agreed. i'm not comfortable with the idea of relying so much on a 21-22-year-old player who hasn't played a single game in the premier league, no matter how talented.

iceman

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Wtg i agree alex song turned into one of the best cdm and this season shown hes passing genius. but this player no way gets the credit he should by our fans.stats shown when he plays the midfield is more soild.if for wotever reason was on a transfer list barsa/madrid city chel or manu and top club besides ourselves would play through the nose to get hes signature
unless you didnt notice hes skill and playmaking over seasons you must be blind.song looked for van the man persie when attacks were happening he needs a top midfield general to walk along side him like fab was.spend the cash replace fab. and nasri like we should have in january and we wouldnt of had to fight to 3rd more the title we would have bein partying about.i await this transfer window with great hope.

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You think song is not good enough in your eye?

go look back in the last 3 seasons... the least injured player its most likely song... the most tackles done this season in champions league was song until are got kicked out...

the most improved arsenal player from playing defense to this season doing assists...

what else do you want him to do the strikers and defenders job aswel?

i am very very against your decision and i do not blame song for this season mistakes we have his been playing attacking and defensive name me one player on this face of earth that can do two jobs in one? and then blame song!

get to know the reality before we loose yet another star in the upbringing!

real-goon

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We need our best players period.
we have alot of crap at the club but we still have a very healthy amount of quality of which song figures, 3/4 players in of some note and we can do something major again

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Song is overratted??? what are you smoking! anything he is underrated. don't think so many of our fans actually appreciate what he does for our team!

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I've always considered Song as one of our best and that he would be better playing cm with Wilshere/ Arteta and a cdm behind him. When Arsenal have had trouble breaking other teams down Song has popped up with a great lofted ball to van Persie proving his quality.

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^exactly, he's more of a Pirlo-type player, when we need someone more like Gattuso (using the AC Milan team from 03-04 as reference, don't really want Gattuso to join)

M'Vila would be fine for this role

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Appreciate what Song does for us? What leaves all the defensive work to Wilshere last season, left all the defensive work for Arteta this season, gives the ball away time after time as well as silly fouls. Rather Benayoun,Ramsey, Frimpong and Coquelin were ahead of Song in the pecking order.

Luke

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Song is really nothing special. If he went my reaction would be, let's sign dembele/fellaini who are both much better players.
AG

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Sorry luke but i disagree almost completely with you.

song gives the ball away sometimes. in situations where he never should. that's what i agree with you.

but leaves all the defensive work for others? that makes me furious. song probably does the most of the defensive work (apart from the back-four). he runs tirelessly chasing the ball, helping both fullbacks, blocking lines, intercepting. it's not all about tackling (and he does that too of course). wilshere was supposed to do his piece, so is arteta, rosicky, gervinho, every player! the team attacks together, the team defends together. i remember rosicky saying a couple months ago pressing together is the key. couldn't agree more with him.

silly fouls? i'm sure he makes some. everybody does. but most of song's fouls are tactical, breaking the oppositions play. it's not ideal to commit a foul of course. but sometimes it's the only way and song is ready to do that dirty work.

i don't think it's right to think song anymore as a dm. he's more like a cm now, partnered with another (arteta, wilshere). wenger wants song to roam too so he can't just sit in front of the defence. and i understand wenger as song has a wide passing range and composure to keep the possession and move the ball.

iceman

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We'd miss Song more than when we realised we should have let Flamini run down his contract
Rob

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Song is essential to take something out of next season unless he's replaced directly with a midfielder of comparable quality in addition to M'vila. Song doesn't just offer vision in midfield, he has strength and tackling that our other midfielders just can't match. Taken off the leash, Song could easily become a high energy ball winner the likes of Vidal or Marchisio, and he still has time to incorporate shooting into his game if he begins to operate closer to goal. Song's powerful running has been extremely effective at breaking teams down in the past, and paired with his combative nature and eye for a pass, he's an incredibly potent weapon we need to be able to turn draws into wins next season.

Squad depth means that we need to see past the first XI, and that means keeping options like Song even as we stock up on more quality, at the very least to ensure we can offer different threats game to game and make it harder to suppress our offense in tight games.

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17 May 2012 17:36:40
Arsenal are considering a move for charltons u18 star callum harriot

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Rather has ainsley

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No more youngsters we need established players

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Sounds about right! See rvp we will challenge for trophies!

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No way harriot will be pushing for a starting place at charlton next season he is that good. plus he wont go Arsenal because he wont win anything there. KAYLEM1300 CAFC FOR LIFE

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Just cause we produce better players doesn't mean you can take all of them

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This is wengernomics:why have luuk de jong for £10 million when you can have callum harriot for 500k. LOL

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17 May 2012 15:33:47
just read on another gunners column dat dortmund is keen on buying bendtner...and are willing to offload lewandowski.
isn't it like a good sign....we can always tempt dortmund with a player plus cash offer for either of their two prime transfer targets...
kagawa or lewandowski....my personal favorite would be gotze but since he has just signed a new contract wid em...dere is no hope of seeing him here at emirates.

eds - ur views on it? {Ed013's Note - Go for it, I would drive Bendtner there myself and pay for the ferry crossing!}

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Why on earth would they let their best striker go and why on earth would they want bendtner? Lol

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Gonna rain in your parade here mate, Dortmund have already told Utd they can forget about buying Lewandowski and he's come out in the week and says he's happy with that decision.

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I guess dey want to cash out lewandowski and need a decent replacement...not that bendtner is decent..lol

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For all of Bendtners faults he can score goals (albeit not enough). In Germany he could maybe score more and the style of football could suit him better than the Premiership. If Mario Gomez can score 40 odd goals in a season, Bendtner could maybe hit 15 - 20. Not bad if they get him for £5 - £10M

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Let RVP go to City for Dzeko plus cash. He would earn twice as much as here, and he has done a lot for us. We should tell him 'Thank You'. The cash should be spent for Goetze. RVP is great, but these two are better combined.

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Lewandowski isnt even that good. He would be found wanting in the premier league.

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Please hope dis be true

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Replacing bendtner for lewandowski is like trading in a bucket of she*p for a 6 star meal...

grass versus class......gimme the class

hopefully Poland plays well and Lewandowski sees his career on a club w/ Shezza

US Gooner

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Lewandowsi goin to chelski

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If dortmund really did already blow their transfer wad and wanted to player swap - which doesn't sound likely - they'd offer someone like grosskreutz or their third centerback. grosskreutz is a utility man with a mighty engine, but I think the whole point of clearing out players like bendtner should be to free up cash and wages, not stock up on mid-range players we could produce ourselves.

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17 May 2012 15:15:07
I heard a while back from a reliable source in the Arsenal camp that Dempsey is a done deal, not a bad player, especially at the right price...also heard Goetze had agreed pre-contract terms only to change his mind on us.

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Arsenal need star quality for the club not some not a bad player bench warmers. no ty

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Would be a great buy someone, someone who plays with a bit of passion.
Galway Gooner

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17 May 2012 13:57:17
Wenger had stated he would like to resolve the issue before the euros.

RVP's agent is already going ahead in team talks with other big teams.

Barca and Juventus have pulled out already...they will not meet the asking price.

City, Utd will fight it out.

He will not be kept, dont believe what the arsenal board say.

Walcott is also on the last year of his contract...its only a matter of time before hes gone too...sad that the only thing they need to do is invest in players and spend 30 odd mill...but they rather get that money...

time to open an ATM near the emirates and give its rightful name...Arsenal Bank plc.

Lakerville

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Walcott can go tbh . Where would he go in england?Chelsea?Liverpool his boyhood club?

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Crap upload comments.
walcott or van persie
no body knows wot will happen
arsenal fc a top european club
not a bank you think that make a deposit
in manu-bank . im sure they have room for fan to open an account with them. as aresnal fc dept free only club in the premship.

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What i know is that Theo will stay and RVP knows his value and wants to stay its down to arsenal to offer the correct wages for one of the best players in the world (so maybe expect RVP to leave as we are cheap when it comes to wages)

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Hate to say it, but I can also see RVP leaving. Why would Walcott stay after he has been boo'd by so many of our "fans" this season?

This entire situation just screws our summer up yet again, do we buy RVP replacement while we have time - only to then see him stay? Do we hope he stays and then lose him at end of window with no time to replace him?

Must be something to do with being captain of the team Gilberto, Henry, Gallas, Cesc all left after a season of being captain - now RVP? Hope I am wrong.

Micky C

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17 May 2012 11:09:41
ed is it true kaka is becoming annoyed real madrid? how much would clinch him? or would he rather go back to brazil? {Ed001's Note - he is very likely to leave this summer, no idea where to or for how much though. A lot will depend on finding someone willing to buy him too! I would expect a return to Italy if I had to guess though.}

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I'd definately have him. he's not the player he was 4 or 5 years ago but he has that thing we lack - that special something - that je ne sais quois - instinct and ability to do something incredible and change a game on his own.
AG

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17 May 2012 12:41:07
Jack Wilshere comeback is still on course for next season but he'll undergo a minor knee procedure in the next few days......

thats aload of bs IMO. Arsenal just dont want him going to the pointless olympic team. and I for one will be happy if he doesnt go

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Or he is still injured and they want to blame the surgery for another set back?
hasnt he made himself unavaliable for the olympics?
dan

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17 May 2012 12:31:05
No disrespect to RVP but if he ends up NOT extending his contract, it's best for the club to sell him and get the best deal they can get. Without the commitment, he won't play at his best - see Fabregas' last year. But....whereas we didn't use the money we got for Fabregas, it's essential that any money received is used to upgrade the quality of the team. Without doing that, it will confirm that "we" are satisfied being a stepping stone to the Mancs, Barca and Real etc. and that we will be showing we are satisfied to fight for ending up third or fourth or fifth. Come what may, I will always be a Gooner but I sincerely hope RVP stays and we add at least 2 more upgraded players this summer - M/Vila and Vertonghen would definitely satisfy me and give ms some sense of hope for the future...OUR future. The present team (even with RVP) is simply not going to surpass the Mancs and what will surely be a rebuilt Chelsea for the next season. Juan ATL.

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17 May 2012 12:18:52
Wilshere is flying to Sweden this week to undergo knee surgery

"his ongoing rehabilitation has seen a long-standing slight issue with his patella tendon in his left knee flare up"

Marty

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16 May 2012 20:30:36
1st message

I've seen this on another Gunner site , it's saying we are getting this chap...Aymen Abdennour...your thoughts Ed.

I watched the video that was with the rumour and he looks pretty good !! {Ed013's Note - He is still young, young enough for Mr Wenger to mould and he can play left back or left wing so his versatility may be of use. I wouldn't imagine he will cost mega bucks}

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Typical wenger signing and from the French league

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Yeah, apparently one of the best defenders in his league. Can also play at CB. Maybe he is the reason we didn bid for Vertonghen. His manager said arsenal made a bid in the winter.

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It's on the just arsenal site...he looks fast and fearless IMO he looks like a good signing !!

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I just got really excited about him! would fit in better than vertonghen because he's mainly a left back and is younger so he'd settle not to start every game.

iceman

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Rather have Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa

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I know alot of stuff about him since I'm a gooner but I also support Toulouse Football Club, he signed a new contract 2 months ago, so he won't leave this summer that's for sure especially since Toulouse will lose a lot of players. He can't play left back neither left wing he's pretty bad at it, but he's a very good central defender. For the 7 first months he was probably the best center back in Ligue 1 with N'Koulou (Marseille), but he lost his shape the last 2 months probably because he didn't have any break: he came straight from the Tunisian league which started in june to Toulouse in july to play in the Ligue 1 in August without having any kind of break then he went to ACN in January (so he didn't have any christmas break like others players in Ligue 1 did) and then went back to Toulouse for the remaining of the seasons. He's a beast, he reminds people of Cris (from Lyon) few years ago when he was at the top of his shape and Milan AC were looking for him. He's probably staying in Toulouse for the next season but he'll probably move at the end of it.

By the way we've been looking at Capoue from Toulouse but so are Inter Milan, Barecelona, Atletico, it seems that Inter will go for him he they miss M'Vila.

Honnestly M'Vila is very overrated by the press and Laurent Blanc, he wasn't in the Ligue 1 team of the year but Capoue and Mavuba were. Capoue been a regular in Toulouse XI for the last 4 seasons, he's a pretty good player and would cost less than M'Vila (£12M). He's only 23 (so 2 years older than M'Vila) but might have way more potential, he's not in the French National Team because he refused to join Bordeaux few years ago when Laurent Blanc was the manager (that's mainly why), and he's probably the most underrated player in Ligue 1 because Toulouse players barely talk to the press.

Moussa Sissoko is also leaving Toulouse, but probably to AS Roma for £8M, he's been performing very poor for the last 2 seasons and the half, he's probably one of the most overrated player in Ligue 1 next to M'Vila and Sakho. He won't fullfill his potential it's almost sure, he lacks too many things.

Hazard is probably going to City; Giroud to Bayern Munich, Belhanda and Yanga M'Biwa are staying in Montpellier, Lisandro & Lloris staying in Lyon, Marvin Martin is moving to Lille so is Ryan Mendes (from Le Havre). Sakho will seek a move away from Paris, but they might keep him to have enough homegrown player for the Champions League. Gameiro might also move (would be nice if we take a look at hime, he might be on the cheap). Where M'Vila is going is a though one seems City, Inter are also interested in him. Boudebouz from Sochaux will also move he rathers join a bigger french club. Debuchy is also moving from Lille it seems that United and Newcastle are taking a look at him but also Valencia, he rather goes to England. Chedjou Cameroun central defender who can also play as DM (Lille) will also move this season, he also wants to join the Premier League. In case Djourou leaves us (which might be the case: Newcastle, Juventus and others clubs are looking at him, and he wants to leave but Arsene rather keep him, we should have a look at Chedjou who is quite good enough to be a 3rd or 4th choice and would cost less than Vertonghen who'll probably join the scums. Bastos (who can play on any position on the left wing) and A.Cissokho are for sale as Lyon are looking for money (since they're missing the Champions League): but the first one wants to play in Serie A and isn't performing good enough for us, and the second one is also one of these overrated monster created by the french press, Cissokho isn't even in the top 15 left back in Ligue 1, he even lost his spot in Lyon starting XI to a right back: Mahamadou Dabo! So he'll probably end up in a team such Sunderland or even QPR in case they can't keep Taïwo.

Toulouse also have some fine players such: Cheikh M'Bengue left back, probably one of the best one in Ligue 1 with Bedimo (former Toulouse player as well), Digne (Lille), Beria (Lille) and Tremoulinas (Bordeaux) when he's in good shape. Franck Tabanou who is a left middlefield player who can also play left back, he isn't in good shape for the last few months but he had a very good early season. He's probably to watch in the next few years, Ali Ahamada goal keeper is also a player to watch, he has the best stats this season: with 79% shots of target stopped better than Lloris, Sirigu, Mandanda, Carrasso, Rufier, Costil (who are considered as the best GK in Ligue 1), he's only 20 years old and keept 19 clean sheets which makes him the 2nd best in the five biggest leagues in Europe (Italy, England, Spain, Germany, France) he's just behind Buffon who kept 21 cs. He's also the goal keeper of the best defence of Ligue 1 (only 32 goals in in 37 games), and he's a french U21.

Ligue 1 team of the year: Lloris (Lyon) - Debuchy (Lille), Hilton (Montpellier), Nkoulou (Marseille), Bedimo (Montpellier) - E.Capoue (Toulouse), Mavuba (Lille) - Nene (PSG), Belhanda (Montpellier), Hazard (Lille) - Giroud (Montpellier).

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Looked like a centre back in the video I saw - a pretty reasonable one it has to be said, but not on Kos or Verm's level I wouldn't have thought. Probably better than Squid though!
Drumsofdotl

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17 May 2012 01:30:55
Arsenal to do a lot of business in France. Here is a few.

M'Vila - Rennes

Martin - Sochaux

Belhanda - Montepellier

Giroud - Montepellier

Yanga-Mbiwa - Montepellier

Remy - Marseille

Valbuena - Marseille

Sakho - PSG

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I can only see them signing m'vila belhanda and giroud depending on the van persie situation

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So we are going to turn into City and "rape" Montepellier of their "star" players just vlike that ... ?

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I hope we don't try to sign valbuena. don't rate him at all.

BgdGooner

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We will sign 3 at BEST... maybe only 1 - otherwise there will be no player left in Ligue 1!

Bentschke

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I would be happy with any of those players joining but I would prefer M'Vila, Belhanda and Giroud. Knowing us thought the only player we might take from montpellier is the defender which will just pi$$ me off.

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There is no doubt wenger likes his french players and players in the french league but dont you think there is alot better talent out there than in france? hoilett would be a good signing and maybe offer thiery henry a 1 year deal? he isnt as clinical as he was but he still proved his self when on loan to us! he could change a game off the bench! alothough reny would be a good signing hes just like walcott and ox...... i think with 2 more strikers, 2 defenders, a CM and a winger we could definatly win the league next year. we play good football proberbaly the best in the world but singning all french players/french league will disrupt our style of play and arsenal dont need that.

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Realisicly yanga-mbiwa and m'vila

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A few?
1732

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People are saying Viera was in paris talking to Mvilla's reps.

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You'r wrong, AFC is to do a lot of business in Germany. Player are cheaper and more Premier ready.

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16 May 2012 23:05:32
Marvin Martin has come out and declared that his heart is set on now joining a champions league club according to an article on football app (motain GmbH & Co. KG).

Any ideas of who else may be seriously interested in this guy? He was mentioned alot at the start of the season and during last transfer window however the scene has gone relatively quiet since. Could he drop into the current squad or be an impact sub? I've seen short clips of the guy and he looks promising but they're always biased.

EMG

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There was a rumour he was off to Lille as Hazard's replacement a while ago. Haven't heard anything since.

GoonerDan

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A lot of clubs were interested last summer. I am sure I read him say something like "why would I leave to join Arsenal? If I leave it will be to join a bigger club like Madrid or Barcelona." Don't quote me on that but what a pr!ck if so.

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