Arsenal Rumours Archive August 18 2013

 

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18 Aug 2013 23:45:11
Arsenal are preparing a final bid for Suarez to the tune of £50,000,000.

Don't think Suarez will make a decision until CL destiny has been sorted .

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Suarez is staying

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I've said it before they may aswell make a bid of £150 million i'd be surprised if he is leaving now. Especially after seeing him parading his little girl at Liverpool the other day . That to me said it all that was like holding out an olive branch to the Liverpool supporters and club .

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18 Aug 2013 17:36:44
Quality players available for transfer:

Willian - £15m: Liverpool closing in on Willian but what are we waiting for?! This guy single handedly destroyed Chelsea in CL last year, he's class on the wings and through the middle. Would improve our team massively.

Maxime Gonalons - £9m: Had the highest tackling/interception rate of all defensive midfielders in Europe last year. Exactly what we need, French international available at a good price.

Mamadou Sakho - £8.5m: Fantastic price for a 23 year old French international. Wants away and is definitely available. CB but can play LB too.

Stephan Lichtsteiner - £11m: Apparently we're interested in Lichtsteiner, and a transfer would definitely be a great deal. Great RB, OK price.

Jackson Martinez - £25m: Yeah I know it's a lot of money, but Jackson Martinez might be just one of the last star strikers available on the market. In his first season in Porto he ended up scoring 34 goals, exactly as many as Radamel Falcao did in his first season. Many people have dubbed him the new Falcao. Jackson Martinez is almost a complete striker. Amazing heading, incredible finishing, great dribbling and a deadly pace. What are we waiting for?

In total: £68.5 million. And we have a £70 million 'war chest' right? {Ed044's Note - Having asked about interest in a couple of the players, I was told: (1) Gonalons - Arsenal and Monaco are pressing for a deal for this summer still with Napoli looking at the player as well. (2) Sakho is interesting a number of clubs including Arsenal. (3) You appear to have made some of the numbers up, like for Willain and Martinez, and (4) He says you missed Michu, Arda and Yilmaz off the list.}

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This is a perfect example of wengers conradiction. he says to the press who should we buy, that is a problem and also says we need a certain quality to play for us and here it is, a fine list of 70 million worth of players (although jackson will cost 40 million euro) and yet wenger thinks these players don't have the quality? personally I would say going on gervinho, chamack, bendtner, arteta and the countless crap players we have, wenger is a rubbishter and is scared to spend.

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Edd 044 all well and good about us enquiring, but haven't we heard that before?

Chocolate all signings that would improve our threadbare squad, but wenger waits and waits and we lose the chance.

Wenger now reacts (panic buys) to things whereas when he first arrived here he was pro active and lead the way got deals done.

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What is wrong with arteta tthink he is quality player thank you

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18 Aug 2013 20:45:02
I hate it when Wenger places his own valuation on a player and refuses to pay what the club asks like Willian he'll probably say that £15M max Gonalons about £6M Sakho £5M Martinez 18M

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Arteta? Are you on a wind up?

He was born into the Golden Generation of Spanish midfielders: Most underrated midfielder that walks into most sides.

Joker.

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Yeah still some good players to be had- the prices tbh are pretty meaningless and prob way out, but still.

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Prices are not important, arsenal need players desperately, their value is now irrelevant at this stage. If they are available and they are decent, we will be in for them, because we have no choice.

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I would like to see us gp for Diego costa

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Diego Costa?
Did he not just sign a new contract with his club?

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Well I've always liked Chocolate and this is no different. An excellent post. As you know doubt know these are just examples of some of the talent that is out there. So Arsene's lament that the players aren't out there is just rubbish. We have not had the will, the strategy, the skill, nor the basic willingness to do any business.

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19 Aug 2013 09:43:38
A very, very silly post.

This isn't a game when you just sign and discard players at some sort of fixed value, without any regard to wages, signing on fees, agents fees etc

Who says any of those players actually want to sign for Arsenal anyway.

This is what so many fans cannot grip. That there players out there who don't view Arsenal so lovingly as the fans.

I am not even convinced that any of those players meet the requirements. Scouting nowadays is based on so many factors. Any club with any sense will conduct detailed research, including stats based on play, team contribution.

What we need are players who will improve the squad, not just spending for the sake of it. That "spend spend spend" sign shown at the Villa game was just another chav-like example of the bling attitudes so prevalent amongst fans

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To respond to the person who last posted 'A very, very silly post'

Your correct in saying that people should not assume that players want to come to Arsenal. Indeed, it could be the case that every player Arsene wants, has no desire to join us.

However, we do have to spend money. Quite literally, we have no choice but to spend money on players to give our squad depth. We literally don't have enough players for the season. Therefore, people demanding for money to be spent are making perfectly acceptable demands.

The fact we are now in a position where we need to spend for the sake of it, is the fault of the board + Arsene Wenger. Ground Hog day at AFC.

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Willian is going for nearly 30m
Gonalons is good yes
Jackson Martinez will cost much than that.

Cesar, Begovic, Adler, Handanovic
Sahko, Subotic, Jagielka, Williams, Doria(Brazilian CB new Lucio), Micah Richards
De Rossi, L.Bender, Fellaini, Gundogan, Pogba, Mascherano
Ben Arfa, Arda Turan, Mezut Ozil (Out of favour at Madrid) Mata (Benched by Chelsea), Lamela, Willian
Rooney, Suarez (just bid 50m), Lewandowski(if Suarez fails bid 40m BVB will accept that and, Eto

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18 Aug 2013 11:18:48
Ed, any news on interest in Radamal Falcao, well aware he has just moved however there are claims in France that a lot of Monacos' players did not know it was tax free wages only for so long before coming in line with France's 70% super tax - this has made several players uneasy and there are reports that Falcao is one who is looking for an escape route, any chance at all or just wishful thinking?

Cheers {Ed044's Note - Another Ed has said that Falcao will not be joining Arsenal.}

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I don't think he can be transfered twice in the same window!

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18 Aug 2013 14:45:04
So soldado just scored, let me ask you.hell of a lot of money for a 28 year old, but the guy is a goal scorer, poacher, exactly what we are missing. Should we have gone in for him instead of wasting our time with Suarez saga when it is clear he only wants to go to Madrid?

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You do know it was a penalty!?

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He scored a penalty didn't he?
Really shows his poacher capabilities!

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Guys mark my words he will hit 20 plus this season and after week one had we got him we would all be a little less worried.

I am sure with giroud hitting 20 plus we would be in a much better state than wasting our time with Suarez then panic buying on deadline day

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Suarez is great. But any fan knew that he was going no where, and that's even more apparent now. There is no reason to place anymore bids on him. Arsenal needs to concentrate on other people.

I also think Rooney is a lost cause too.

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You sire, are an person. he scores a penalty. AND! he ain't worth the money, giroud scored yesterday also and it was from open play. our worries do not primarily exist in attack so go and bum tottenham elsewhere.

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Faltering fullback

I think you will find if giroud is injured then we will be in trouble there, and if you read my post my argument is for giroud and another striker to score goals not to replace him.

Fact is we are short in quality all over the pitch. But maybe you want to bum wenger and Ivan.

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A f**kin pen so what

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18 Aug 2013 12:57:34
My because is on the books at the Arsenal Youth, he has been plaguing me all week with his "insider" knowledge that he knows Williams is going to be sorted by midweek and that Bender will be done by early next week

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Your 'because'? What the hell is your because?

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You don't want to take any notice of what because's tell you, they are notoriously unreliable!

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Giving the responsibility of transfers to the youth team aye? That sure would explain a lot.

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18 Aug 2013 12:53:29
Nick - the issue is Wenger is pushing himself out. His pure indifference to anyones opinions beyond his own, his seeming disinterest in the fans, is making a noose for his own neck. He seems, and the management seem to forget that AFC for all intents and purposes answers to the fans. They are the stewards who are given charge to run it. It will always come down to fans, results as to what happens.

Wenger has had three very bad windows. 1st when he catagorically denied Nasri and Fabs would go, saying 'if I let that happen we are not a big club', then they walked. Next year the club failed to tie RVP down, Giroud and Podolski came in, but he went, meaning Wenger likely knew he was off, and then Song was sold for what I assume was insubordination (?) or cash offer, never replaced properly, never explained. Then this season the CEO mouths off about spending £70 million, nothing done, all targets go elsewhere, Jovetic, Higuain, Gustavo, the Suarez debacle. Nothing to show, now this.

It really is 3 years of not seeming to have any kind of strategic plan when it comes to the squad. The strategic plan at Arsenal does seem to boil down to events management, staffing, economics, international branding etc.

I wish they looked at the team and gave it the same effort as the corporation.

I am a Wenger fan. I've stuck by him, but I will be interested to see what happens next. It's the last chance saloon, and it's his arrogance that has brought him here, that and the board's interest in money more than football. We expect better from Arsenal, and deserve more.

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Good post

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I think this is a very good post and I can relate. Us the fans really deserve answers. Especially us true fans who have sat there keeping faith and being calm.

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Its not the last chance saloon, that has longed passed, with about 60-75% of my Gooners friends admitting they want him gone, and myself and another friend in agreement that we actually need a europa league season, a season for a new fresh manager, who will spend the money at his disposal, to get some youth players lower european experience and regroup as a team and rebuild momentum moving forward instead of this constant fourth place scabble that shouldn't be.

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It appears to me that all big-names do not want to join Arsenal. So they'd join teams like Napoli and Wolfsburg (I believe they are good clubs but Arsenal should be bigger) Because of the wage limitation? Personally, I do think it is a big factor. Players nowadays may not just play for enthusiasm in football, they want $$$$!

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I am an Arsene fan, he turned us from Boring, Boring Arsenal to the greatest passing football team this country had every seen and that is a fact

He bought in unknown players and turned them into legends another fact.

However that same scouting process he is using, is now known by everyone else - Chelsea, Man City, The Yides to name but 3 - who are ALL offering more money to these players.MUCH MORE MONEY.

Arsene needs to stop REBUILDING and get to BUILT. The guy is messing up his own legacy, because he feels HE knows best???8 years Arsene, proves you don't. I really don't want to see you leave but fail to get us Champion League and fail to win the next Premier League game and I can't see anything else for us but to let you go

And let's be fair, yesterday what could have gone wrong did. They were NOT penalties, injuries forced subs, Koc did not deserve to be sent off - that referee will not be doing a premier League game for awhile as he was very bad - and the 3rd we were chasing an equaliser and they broke on us, however even after all that, we Should never have been in this situation, how may times have teams come to us and done one of 2 things. Park the bus and/or kicked us all over the park? Come an Asrene, you need to get MEN as we are a bunch of BOYS, trying to live in the greatest League in the world and I am afraid its not working any more

Sammy Nelson the greatest left back

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I appreciate your views, and they are indeed views held by many, but I think the bigger picture that Wenger talks so much about, is something that we genuinely do need to be aware of. We are in the strongest position that we have been for years, and are in the position financially to 'play with the big boys' so to speak, however, the number of posted here that seem to blame Wenger for the missed transfers are looking to simply at media speculation without considering the real heart of the individual context. No Higuain, but it seems that Real were the issue behind that. No Gustavo, but how can Wenger convince someone to leave a country that he is settled in? You can't really blame Wenger for that. Likewise, those who are annoyed at Wenger talking up the chances and the squad - what would you rather, that in public he comes out and derides the squad and the chances of silverware? The clamour for his head would be even bigger. Football is a difficult business, and us the armchair pundits only know so much. Success has indeed come to other clubs, but in a such a way that I am not sure, if faced with the reality of fair weather billionaire owners, we would really want the same for our club.
Yes, we lost players, but do you actually think that Wenger did not try to keep them? If someone wants to go, they go, they force the hand of the club and they get their move. Yes, perhaps had we won more, this may not have been the case, but with the unrealistic wages that are mooted as being paid to these players, I would not risk the long term security of our club for a marquee player that in reality, would guarantee nothing.
I like you all want to win something, for me as a fan, but also for Wenger and the club, he has done more for English football than anyone in recent history, and should be judged on that and not a poor result against Villa. We have two weeks remaining in the window, and eight months left of the season, let's judge him than and not now, and should it be another year either trophy-less, or without a champions league spot, then I may agree with the Wenger naysayers, however, until then, and with faith in my heart, I still say, 'In Wenger we trust'.

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Just to some up song was sold purely so wenger could balance the books an turn a profit, we had bought it giroud pold. an cazorla. RVP sale didn't cover the money we spent out so another player had to be sold to put us back into the black because after all we much rather profits than trophies lol

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Very good post by the way, and its a glaring fact he needs to go and will do after this season. you are right, they want to make a rubbish load of money from our past success, no money goes back into the team, wenger contradicts himself. did you hear him after villa when the press pushed him about buying players to which in the end he said yea yea yea its all good saying buy players, but when I ask you who, that becomes another problem. WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH. he says the players have to be a certain quality to play for us, ANOTHER CONTRADICTION. so going on this let's take kondogbia, abdulrahman, bernard, jovetic, and even jackson martinez, there is 5 players all better than what currently play for us, most who have buy out clauses yet we get nothing. he is ful of rubbish and the board are complete degenrate pricks, arsenal are done for as far as being what we were.

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Canning 84,

That is NOT true my friend, Song wanted OUT and we sold him, the last season he was here he was sulking over money, so please be factual

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18 Aug 2013 18:50:04
@babygorilla

we are in the best posistion we have ever been! . what with 13 senior players? with a squad so thin 1 more injury and they be handing out boots outside the emirates.
we can compete with the big boy with our new financial firepower so why haven't we, don't say we get priced out because let's be fair we don't bid enough in first place to be priced out, an you say about clubs paying stupid wages didn't ivan say sure we can buy rooney an pay his wages he on now, bold statment, you trust in wenger I for one will never disagree with what he has brought to the pl an what he has dome for arsenal in those early years, but past 8 seasons what has he done? what have the board done?

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To be honest with you, I actually don't care about the 8 year drought. There are clubs out there that have a bigger drought than uss. Not saying I don't care about trophies, its just not my biggest concern.

All I care about is improving and fixing our flaws. If we sign good players and still come up short, then so be it. That's a lot better than signing no one like right now.

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You know, shoot me down as I don't really care anymore about football. It's been sucked right out of me after firstly reading Gazidis' comments stating, "We have at least 70 million to spend and we can now compete".

I had hoped we got beaten by Villa yesterday because I believe that with A Wenger's ignorance we are going downward! I wholeheartedly believe Wenger ignorantly thought, as we had 12 games at the end of the season unbeaten, that this squad could cut it. It all hindered on last seasons end performances where we weren't great and narrowly got fourth. I remember seeing the cheers on Arsenal faces at the end of the game when we knew we'd qualified for the Champs League; it's a shame because we celebrated like the EPL was ours, that there were no problems and we were happy. Eight years without a trophy and most were aiming for that top four spot.

I did read in June or July that Wenger stated we wouldn't compete for the EPL for at least two or three seasons?! I didn't take the bait when we bid for Suarez knowing full well that Liverpool wouldn't be us. Selling our best player to a team who's up there like ourselves.

All was forgotten when we had our fourth spot! Everybody came round to the idea of giving AW another year to see. Now realisation hits in when we lost to Villa.

Yes, he's been an incredible manager and the best to date but it's gone stale.

Two or three more years to the EPL? We were promised so much and given so little. I haven't been to the game for four years now, I haven't bought a shirt and I wouldn't put money into their greedy pockets.

Is this Kroenke's influence and AW is following suit as normal. Surely, Gazidis wouldn't come out publicly and announce that were going to spend big on signings and compete? Otherwise, like he does now, he has egg all on his face. Strange.

It's a joke and I can only hope the next couple of weeks bare fruit, which they will, but will be the normal standard of players. Rush buys again.

Ashley Williams. I watched him yesterday. In my opinion should perhaps be looked upon.

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Sammy

yer song wanted more money because he wanted a new contract, so we either let there contract run down till a the lasts few month or god help they should ask for a improved contact or they will get sold. you can go around an say this an that, the financial aspect was a big part to, imagine god for bid we spent more than we earnt,

wenger ain't bought anyome yet an let's be fair we prob will obly spend max of £15-£20 mil because that what we have made sellung anterminating contracts

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Canning84,

The building on the emirates played a massive part to the dismantlement of that team
* the Whore for The Pold
* Cashley for Clichy*
* Helb for Nasri
* Clichy for Gibbs*
* Nasri for Carzola
* Flamini for Ramsey**
* RVP for Giroud
* Fabergas for Wiltshire*
* Song for frimong*
* Toure and Gallas - #Vermalaan, Pers and #Kos
* Home grown
# Were not known players
** brought in as a teenager

And from that list of names Helb and Nasri were the only ones that cost us any real money.The Whore, Cashley, Flamini, RVP, Fabergas, Song Toure came from our system before making an impact on the 1st team

All these players wanted more money, that we did not have due to repaying for the stadium, they ALL stated they was off and was NOT going to stay, so Arsene had no choice but to rebuild. However he tried/trying to rebuild base on his scouting network - which was once the best in the world and exclusive to him alone, however everyone else knows about it and is offering considerable more then us.

Chelsea - Oscar, Mata to name but 2 that was coming to us, Man City as well have a few of our signing thanks to Marwood and Veria, taping into Arsene network links

The current team we have I believe will come good, however these are boys playing against MEN. Maybe in 2 - 3 seasons time this will be the team to win something, but they need HELP now or else, Arsene will lose his job and we will be the butt of every Premier League club - I can hear it now. How the Mighty have fallen. I can't TAKE THAT :-(

Sammy Nelson the greatest left back

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18 Aug 2013 11:22:53
Arsenal is interested in signing Bilbao midfielder Ander Hererra, says former agent, and former Monacco director Trond Kristian Karlssen.

Good creative midfielder, but it is what we need?

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I really hope not.
The only players I'd take from the current Bilbao team are Benät and Munian.

Herrera is a good midfielder as you say.
But he's not better than Arteta, and plays a similar role.
We should use Ramsey as the Arteta role, and buy a DM.
We really, really need a defensive minded midfielder.

Why in gods name we haven't gone for Porto's Fernando, is beyond me.
His contract is almost up, and they want like £10m, from their own mouths!

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18 Aug 2013 09:42:05
Fabio Coentrao of Real Madrid wants out. Mid 20's LB.

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A left back is not needed! what's needed is centre back, defence midfiled, left winger and striker, possibly goal keeper aswell

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Coentrao also plays LW, and centre midfield.
He's a utility player, and a good one.
To be honest, if we got him for under £10m I'd take him.

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Mardrid paid £25ml for him so will want at least £18 for him, he plays well at LW an tha would mean no more playin cazorla out there from time to time an also can move pold in central an alternate him with giroud, yes we need a top top striker but right now don't see that happening

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Agree entirely with canning84, any striker we bring in during the remaining time of this window will NOT be world class.

Island Gooner, you may disagree but this is the type of player that could very well save us some embarrassment. He is available, a utility player and worth the investment. If you're holding out for the likes of Gundogan or Bender. Good luck with that.

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Cheers ASEG

I genuinely don't see us getting a world class striker (hope wenger makes me eat my words) but I see more of being help to ransom by someone like swansea for michu he is a good player, but let's not 4get only one good season in the PL, so they will act on araenals desperation an get at least £25ml .

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18 Aug 2013 00:11:31
just heard that we could possibly sign athletico madrid midfielder arda turan. his agent says he will "probably" end up in prem league. us and liverpool in the frame

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18 Aug 2013 00:11:16
Wenger has made a bid for Arda Turan, who he plans to use on the left and have Podolski and Giroud battling for the spot up front.

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I would love to sign him - think he's a cracking player. We can add a wide man to the very long list of positions we need to fill after the OX was injured today.

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So no top class striking additions? Brilliant. Rooney to higuain to Suarez to none. :-(

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17 Aug 2013 22:39:44
Latest Rumour: Arsenal has agreed a deal that will see As Roma's Daniele De Rossi play for us next season (11M fee reported).

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They are also in for Daniel day Lewis :D

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No chance. His wages are astronomical.

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Any truth in this ed's? I have seen the report but not sure about the website. {Ed027's Note - I don't buy it

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Next season? I hope he likes the prospect of playing in europa league

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Yes well that's encouraging we need some players now though. If we carry on like this till next season the only Rossi we will be able to get is an ice cream from Rossi' s ice cream parlour.

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18 Aug 2013 09:17:28
De Rossi like Totti will spend his whole career playing with Roma

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Er chas when was the last time roma were in the champions league u dummy?

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Cant see this being true. Wots the point of signin a player for next season when we are in desperate for dm cover right now!the only truthful rumour I can see coming very soon is that if arsenal fail to qualify for champs league, then the arsenal faithful will be calling for wengers head. He had adequate time to bring in replacements for the 17 he let go. As normal he believes this squad was good enough to win the league even the the whole world of football could see how worrying light are team really are! I can see the pressure of losing out on champs league and lack of signings when there's 70+ mil sitting in the bank getting the best of wenger and leaving him no choice but to walk away from the club and leaving himself as an embarrassment and not the legend we all know he has been in the past.
ppl mite say who can reolace him and trust me I could name 10 just of the top of my head.

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King henry, the point I was making is arsenal will not be in the champions league, learn to read you person

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Southatlanticgooner, what ten managers can you name to replace arsene Wenger that have a realistic chance of leaving their clubs and would be willing to manage arsenal?

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