Arsenal Rumours Archive August 01 2011

 

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01 Aug 2011 23:08:28
l.diarra is in london and probably going to spurs

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Then post it on the spuds page- why do we care ?

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01 Aug 2011 23:05:45
Mata deal is NOT dead His father says Arsenals offer was rejected but they are expected to make another bid.

Source: SSN Transfer Centre

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I hope that mata comes to arsenal, juan mata is worth making a new bid for plz A.W do the right thing. jesus christ we need a better keeper with exspirence. plz two new cb, s and lb, plz with someone more top level than gibbs, great young talent but not there yet.frank ribery sort i luv to come the to Arsenal.diego forlan to partner R.V.B or if hes injuried.honest guys and gals aka fellow gooners we need new blood. from a fingers crossed irish fan.

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01 Aug 2011 20:43:31
gooner fanzine: jagielka and cahill to be announced as arsenal players by the end of the week. mata is a 50/50 situation.

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01 Aug 2011 20:37:48
Personally, I think this rumour about mata's buy out clause suddenly rocketing & us missing out is bulls**t. I still have the faith to believe that wenger could not be so catastrophically slow and stupid to be caught out by something like this (if the clause even exists...). However, that said, if this rumour is true then is must be the signiture on wenger's death warrant and show us that it is time for him to go...

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01 Aug 2011 19:52:04
we wont get Mata now because Wenger left it to late of the deadline it would of been something between 15-20 million , his new contract clause is now 52 million but Valencia said they would agree a fee of 30 million but I cant see arsenal paying that kind of money.

don't believe this look on sky sports text and look at Arsenal

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01 Aug 2011 19:43:02
Don't you think that arsenal are aware of this deadline for mata and maybe they gave barcelona a deadline to Sunday otherwise cesc stays which is why we never paid the fee? Just a thought.

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01 Aug 2011 23:13:56
Mata bid rejected by valencia we may go in with an improved bid skysports

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01 Aug 2011 17:58:19
Surely I can't be the only one thinking Barton on a free is a good idea. Yes its a risk given his past but he's the sort of player that we need. A no thrills tough tackling midfielder.

GoonerLarry

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Totally agree, we need someone with a bit of bottle

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I would have paid a bit for him, on a free is a no brainer with all our injuries, he would do a good job for us and he has calmed down with age - GET HIM NOW

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I agree.
would be a great player away at stoke, wolves etc.

we can play the tippy tappy stuff at home

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Youre not alone mate. I can't stand him as a person but we wouldn't get bullied with him in the side that's for sure. What have we got to lose by signing him on a free?
Baldigooner

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I wouldnt mind him at all.

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No No No Never gonna happen, can you really see Wenger taking that on? The guy is not a bad footballer but bottom line a thug, there is a fuse ticking from the moment he sets foot on the pitch. I know that we all want to win things but would you really get any pleasure from watching him wear an Arsenal shirt? I for one would not.

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Well if Wenger is looking for a bargain which he always is, then this is it surely.

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I'm prepared to take pelters for this but I couldn't disagree more. That wee thug has no place at AFC club. He doesn't deserve to pull on an Arsenal jersey. It would leave a very bad taste in my mouth if we took him on.

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Id love to see him at arsenal, him or scott Parker, this looks more likely though and for free, would be brilliant, don't let us down in the transfer Market again wenger

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We should get him, great addition; loves tackling, good leader, and lets face it if someone doesnt calm Jack down he'll go down the same route and Barton could be the one to calm him

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01 Aug 2011 17:41:06
Right ed 022 before my essay could you answer this: Once a club has accepted an offer for a player (lets take valencia and mata for example) can the selling club pull out of the deal whilst the buying club is talking to mata?

Onto my essay ;) In an ideal world this is what I would have done: Sell cesc buy Sahin
Sell Nasri buy Hazard
Buy Vidal
Buy Subotic
Then either buy another CB (english) or a LB Baines
Sell Almunia Squillaci Denilson Bentner and Chamakh (an appalling player who cant keep the ball)
and buy mata and a centre forward...of course we arent in an ideal world so this is what I think will happen: Sell Almunia Fabregas Eboue (shame he is the joker in the club and kept morale high) Bentner (mistake I think we should sell chamakh and keep him)
I think we will buy at least two players and at most 5 a CB and Mata I think are certain I think that spanish guy is talking bs...I also think we could get barton (great signing) a cb or a lb and then hazard is nasri goes aswell

also I think afobe and vela will get more games due to bentner going. and squillaci wont go due to wenger being up his own arse :/

{Ed022's Note - Agreeing a deal in principle is different to "accepting a formal bid". As yet, we don't know for sure if Arsenal have actually made a formal bid or agreed to sign the player for a figure in principle. If Arsenal have verbally or otherwise agreed a deal then it is down to the conduct of Valencia to say whether they will deal with exclusively or whether they encourage and welcome bids from other clubs that match or exceed Arsenal's offer. In this case I think a deal is trying to be put in place. Valencia could still accept a bid from another club.}

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01 Aug 2011 17:47:08
I have read 3 different 'reports' that Arsenal aren't prepared to meet clubs asking price. Why is it it seems Arsenal are the only club like this or is it me being paranoid?
LincolnGooner

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Errr....Barcelona and Fabregas???

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01 Aug 2011 17:44:29
last update from inside sources:

Mata to be annouced shortly
Mertesaker fees agreed (annouced last minute)
Jagielka to be annouced after Benfica game
Arsenal scouting ukranian LB, update u later
Wenger searching for striker (not finding like Benzemma style)

in Wenger i trust
Gooner forever

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Good reading, but not getting my hopes up.

A GOONER

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I would love it if this was true but I don't think it is.

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You mean Romanian left back Rat who plays for shakhtar?

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01 Aug 2011 16:46:31
Where are all the true gunners ? so much pessimisim around at the moment, we need 2/3 signings and that is it, even if fabregas and nasri go 3 signings to be made this week, my guess Jagielka, Mata (that spanish correspondant is talking sh1t in my opinion) and Parker (Loan for 1 year to turn frimpong into the beast he nearly is already, Song is a weak link in my eyes). Maybe a left back however as much as i hate to admit it i was impressed with traore last game Great to see Rosicky dictating play also, he could be an important player this year

P.S ---Gervinho to be a killer, a mixture of two grets Pires and Henry

Irish Gooner

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Anyone fancy starting a REAL FANS website instead of moaning sound board website. I dislike cynical, miserable by design people and that seems to be what the order of the day is. The Mata deal is still on, and Wenger is immense I have faith that even if we make no new signings we will be in the top 4 next season because apart from City, Man U and Chelsea NOBODY will keep up with us {Ed022's Note - Everyone has a right to an opinion. Yes we're angry/frustrated and moaning but people are expressing themselves. Everyone loves a good old moan! If you don't like this website and its not "real" enough for you then go make your own website and everyone can fart rainbows and you can all pretend to be happy. However, the opinions on here are REAL and that's what makes it work. If you don't like it, there's the door...}

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Where are the true gunners eh?

Ever heard of the True Scotsman logical fallacy?

Just because some AFC fans don't share your optimism or ideas, does not make them any less a fan than you or anyone else.

Just look at the furore over the change in F1 coverage in the UK; from BBC to Sky. Many F1 fans will not pay for SKY TV to watch the GP - does that make them any lesser fans of F1?

Short time lurker, long time Gooner

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Touche . Website's great :)

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01 Aug 2011 16:46:10
The clubs that have certainly contacted Valencia over a move for Mata are Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool. That inside knowledge is thanks to the Spanish journalist Guillem Balague, who stated on his website:

"Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool have contacted Mata's representative (his father) and the trio have all expressed varying degrees of interest in the player's situation. Mata's new contract contains a buy out clause of 60 million, but that will always be negotiable if both the player and the club are willing to listen to offers." nothing about arsenal

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01 Aug 2011 16:44:35
Have never heard something more ridiculous than agreeing a fee and then a clause expiring I ask a question... How often does guilleme ballegue (spelling) get anything correct?

Anyway rumours are 3 to be signed this week linking to the 5th August deadline for Nasri and Fabregas situations to be decided.

The three are supposed to be Mata, jags and AND cahill. Would prefer another striker instead of 2 new CB's but you can't get evrything you want

Trophy to come next year but I couldn't claim to know which one.

p.s cracking job edd

{Ed022's Note - I'm not Ballague's biggest fan I will say that. He reeks of self importance and is often spouting off about something. He has often said "Barcelona are definitely signing Cesc Fabregas this summer..." Only problem is he's been saying that since 2008. However, to be fair, he does get some transfers ahead of announcements in addition to contract renewals etc...}

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01 Aug 2011 16:41:59
All of this "mata deal messed up" is a just a tactic from Mata's end to try to force Arsenal's hand over a misunderstanding is payment terms. Valencia want Arsenal to buy him as soon as possible or not at all so that they have to to buy a suitable replacement because they fear Arsene may wait to transfer deadline, leaving Valencia in a difficult situation because Mata is now determined to join Arsenal.

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No , he has a new buyout clause of 60 mil

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01 Aug 2011 16:29:30
the story of the fee being agree but cancelled because of the deadline is ridicilous if we have agreed a fee we will still get him having saying that i dont actually belive we made an offer in the first place

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Are we just guessing who you are on about?

{Ed022's Note - He's on about Mata and everyone is guessing and speculating as to what is happening as yet, no-one knows what the hell is going on...}

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01 Aug 2011 16:26:57
Heard from a unreliable source so is probably untrue but sounds like it could be realistic. Arsene Wenger is turning his attention to Scott Dann as Phil Jagielka deal is stalling. Dann is a good defender, hes tall and strong but i would still like to see Jagielka come in for Arsenal even though Dann would be cheaper.

I am hopefull that we do sign Juan Mata but i dont really have a clue whats happening.

Ive heard nothing about Cesc and Nasri a part from apparently Arsene has e-mailed Barcelona saying they have til the 5th of August to reach what Arsenal want or the deals off.

This is what i hope the team could look like....

Szczesny
Sagna Jagielka Vermaelen Traore/Baines/Enrique
Fabregas Wilshere Nasri
Gervinho Van.Persie Mata

Subs- Walcott, Miyaichi, Arshavin, Djourou, Song, Ramsey

I havent put Song in because i think Wilshere is a decent tackler too and Song seems to foul people alot in stupid places after he loses the ball

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Also heard now Joey Barton is on a free then Arsenal are after him and also they might make a offer for Wolves Matt Jarvis

And finally Maroune Chamakh could leave Arsenal to go to Roma.

I must say again this is from an unrealistic source but who knows what can happen.....

Hopeful Gooner

{Ed022's Note - No offence to the above players but isn't it funny how at the beginning of the transfer window Arsenal would sign any of Benzema, Ribery, Mata, Hazard, Jagielka or Cahill...Now we're being linked to Barton and Jarvis. Hmmm...}

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Like I said unreliable source and to be fair Arsenal were never going to buy Benzema or Ribery or Hazard as they would cost £20million+

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Your "source" is the gossip column on the bbc website.
Jarvis. McCarthy, Dann, Jags, Cahill, Mata are who we are looking at as far as anyone knows

btw if mata deal was dead why is he 2/7 to join AFC

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No Gibbs, Jenkinson, Frimpong, Koschelny or second choice keeper + CF hasn't played for the club since we returned to training what makes you think he will play again??

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I would prefer dann to jags any day.would love to see barton come.sick of seeing our players getting bullied week in week out.could u even imagine adams or keown winterburn henry or bregkamp getting roughed up..i think not.i personally think we should get 4 players outside the EPL championship like where charlie adam was playing.some decent players.obviously we still need world class players like your matas hazards and benzemas.but 4 players with steel and grit about them would give us an extra dimension to our game.im sick of loosing games at newcastle and west brom or in russia on a cold wed night.give us some depth and room to rest some players if anything.

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01 Aug 2011 16:22:44
I can understand why people might be turning against Arsene, there is only so much time you can give somone without any significant signings or changes being made, but lets not forget what he has done for us since he started here. If this Mata transfer still goes through then i for one think il owe Arsene an apology, somtimes emotions take over and its difficult to see the challenges he faces being arsenal manager. I STILL BELEIVE

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I CANNOT understand why people are turning against Arsene....this debacle with mata (if it turns out to have gone pear shaped) is surely the fault of the board, or even more likely Ivan the master negotiator. Very few managers are THAT involved in transfers...Arsene certainly couldn't ok the cash payment. Seriously, some of you guys need to get a grip and put the lynch mob on hold (or at least direct it at the right target).

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01 Aug 2011 16:18:39
If we've missed out on Mata, the club need to say something before I go out of my mind with this speculation :s haha lol ed22, I'm the incandescent poster and I'm 18 - I was going to use angry but that word just doesn't describe how I already feel and will feel if it's true

{Ed022's Note - We have kids that use this site so I thought i'd explain! Nevertheless, it was a good word to use. I think a lot of supporters are "very, very angry" and the transfer speculation isn't helping at all.}

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01 Aug 2011 16:16:26
i feel like crying then punching arsene in the face. why the hell did they not bloody well sign mata? i thought that arsenal said they had the money so why could they not have just bought him instead of waiting to sell fabragas. Are club needs a new manager. simple

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01 Aug 2011 16:07:11
Oh well ed it doesnt sound like we are going to get Juan Mata now :/
why do we always take so long to sort things out?
do you really think there is must chance of this deal still going through? forget reports etc, as an arsenal fan do you think this could still happen ed?

{Ed022's Note - My head says no but my heart says yes...}

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01 Aug 2011 15:54:00
if we dont sign mata i wil be infuriated as all summer it has been stated we will sign him. however, wouldnt it had been made public that he had buy out clause in his contract?

clock end gooner

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I would of loved Arsene to have signed mata, a star in the making and an Arsenal player. Arsene knew about the clauses in his contract and would of signed him if he really wanted him. I don't think he ever wanted him. I hope it's a diversion for signing Hazard. He is amazing

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01 Aug 2011 15:51:53
Joey Barton has been told he can leave on a free.. we were linked with him, think Wenger will go for him?
Can't see him being a good influence on Jack who seems like he could head down that route, with fights a kid coming amongst other personal problems

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01 Aug 2011 15:49:35
I'm not convinced by this latest news coming from Balagu- I know he can be spot on sometimes, but it doesn't make sense. yesterday he said:

"Arsenal have done everything necessary to secure the services of Juan Mata. The agreement with the player and Valencia is total and it is only London club to now disburse 22 million euros it costs the player. Valencia demands is made in cash or with the endorsement of a couple of payments and Arsenal have agreed terms".

And now the fee suddenly increases because of a clause that isn't applicable to arsenal anyway...? 'Arsenal have agreed terms...' let's see what happens. *Even* if they missed the 1st payment or something, I'm sure they can still negotiate, perhaps pay a penalty (no pun intended) or whatever and sort it out- I wouldn't panic just yet.
LOndon Gooner

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01 Aug 2011 15:36:28
Sky sports think that Joey Barton may leave newcastle on a free today, also he has said that he will make an announcement on his twitter at 4pm, if he leaves on a free i think we should sign him, i know he has a reputation but he is a new man, last season he was excellent for newcastle and could be just what we want in midfield, a strong tackler that gives 100% every time and has that never say never attitude
YoungGunner

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01 Aug 2011 15:39:02
this confusing apparently mata has signed but apparently the deals off i need help ed

{Ed022's Note - We all need help mate! Im trying to dig up the information on this. As far as I know the deal could still happen. We just need to be patient im afraid as Ballague has really set the cat amongst the pigeons today!}

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01 Aug 2011 15:34:48
Another reason for Balague talking out of his arse; he claimed a fee was agreed yesterday, but how was the money meant to go through to Valencia as it was a Sunday. Deals don't go through on Sundays.

Ben

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01 Aug 2011 15:29:33
If this is true about Mata I seriously just hate being an Arsenal fan. We're going to have exactly the same season again next year, despite everything Wenger has said our defense is still shocking and still look pathetically allergic to set pieces. We're a joke.

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Feeling exactly the same mate :/

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01 Aug 2011 15:29:58
rumours going around that joey barton has been released by newcastle. could he be on his way to us?

{Ed022's Note - I bloody hope not!}

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I doubt Wenger would sign him, but he is a lot better than people think. He is just a halfwit If Wenger could control him, he would be an excellent free transfer

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Id take him..handy squad player
jay

{Ed022's Note - Slag me off if you want but id take Parker over that thug Barton.}

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Would also prefer Parker. I'd be pretty disgusted if we brought Barton in. The guy's shown time and time agin what a wee thug he is. Wouldn't want him given the chance to drag us into the cesspit he often inhabits. That said, his line about Fat Frank was a stunner......just not enough for me to want him to play for my club :-)

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I understand your feeling on barton but he is a very good player..i think he would be a good signing for free...if it doesnt work out then no harm done on the money side of things...better then payin big money for parker..just my opinion, oh and im hopin mad with this craic with mata
jay

{Ed022's Note - Parker would be on a loan so wouldn't cost that much. We could even get away with not paying all of his wages so that to me doesn't hold up. I personally just think Barton is a viscious thug and would be ashamed if HE got the opportunity to play for my beloved club, no matter how "good a player" people think he is.}

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Sorry, but don't really care how good a player he is. He quite simply does not deserve to pull on an Arsenal jersey. End of.

{Ed022's Note - Agreed!}

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I fail to get the Parker quotes, he is an average, aging player, who failed to make it at Chelsea & who was relegated with West Ham last season. We have far better already at the club.

{Ed022's Note - He was used by me as an example of an alternative to the scummy Barton that packs more of a punch off the pitch than on it.}

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Sorry, did I miss it when Thug Barton got voted Football Writer's Player of the Year 2011? Admittedly he had his best season in years last year, but it hardly compares to the shift Parker put in at a failing side. Even in that poor West Ham side, he was clearly quality. Barton does not deserve to represent our club, or wear the shirt. I'd be, frankly, ashamed if he ever did. We are better than that, and WAY better than him.

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01 Aug 2011 15:27:32
Edd, is it worth reading anything into this line from Wenger at a press conference during the Emirates Cup:

"If the two go, do we need to sign 1... of course"

Does that therefore mean if 1 goes, we don't sign anyone? You'd think with 30-40m + 20m coming in and 2 of our best and most experienced first teamers leaving, it should be a no brainer that we need to buy 2 if 2 go and 1 if 1 goes at least Even if neither go, we still need to buy a CB.

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Wenger stated recently that we will sign 1 player (presumably the CB he stated he is after) & possibly 2 players. Assuming both Fabregas & Nasri depart we will sign a player. I have a feeling it is linked to Fabregas, if he signs for Barcelona, then we will see if Nasri will extend his contract & if not we will try & sell him, whilst acquiring a player.

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01 Aug 2011 15:25:21
@GuillemBalague chats BS The clause in Mata's contract only applies to internal Spanish transfers. ESPN Spain reporting Arsenal have signed Mata subject to personal terms. Gazidis is finishing off all deals this week: Mata, Jagielka (not my choice to be honest) and Enrique Are the 3 deals widely rumoured. Hearing another EPL player is being lined up but unsure who this might be Any clues Ed022?

CrossRoss

{Ed022's Note - Twitter and GB are a king nightmare! One little whisper snowballs and turns into god knows what. Honestly, I think the deal is still on. No-one I have spoke to knows for definite whether Ballague is talking nonsense or not. Everyone needs to chill out and see what happens. A lot of fans are angry and frustrated which is understandable. I feel it too. However, as many people also suggest we still have a month to go. I know a lot of you (myself included) would have loved three or four transfers wrapped up by July 15th and then crack on with a pre-season but Arsenal don't do it the easy way. Judge at the end of the month not the beginning...}

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We still hate GB though, he always brings news that arsenal fans dont like- bout cesc n this year bout mata too. alright it not been true so far but its still frustratin
BD

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01 Aug 2011 15:18:09
I agree that what is happening is so dis-hearting for all us loyal fans, but you have to remeber arsenal is a business first run by businessmen. Their number one aim is to make a profit.( I dont agree with these but this is the way football is run now days)

It annoys me that people moan at wenger when its clearly the board. If it was the case where Mr Wenger does have the cash but doesnt spend it dont you think they would just start signing players with out his consent like a certain chelsea owner, or dont you think they would have got rid of him and got a yes man? Wenger is that yes man. He constantly has the boards backing as he helps them make a profit and doesnt complain about how much he is given to spend.

we need to respect his loyalty as many other managers would have walked away. Look at martin o'neil walked as he had no money to spend. Wenger has put his name and career on the line for us. Im sure he would love to be given 100m no questions asked sign who you like war chest but he isnt. All this with Mata. Arsene did his part and got the player and club to agree, now its the boards turn and they mess up, not Wenger. Wenger will eventually go as this is destroying hime physically and his career when he is in fact a great manager. limit fergouson or mourinho to 20m per window ant gonna happen.

Wenger will leave and we will struggle to replace him as no other manager can work with such restrictions. Thats why to Wenger 4th place is good. For us to develope back to the force we once were we need a new board or at least owners and shareholders that put money in.
dannyboiii

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The problem is both wenger and the board. Wenger spends the money like its his and the board trust his judgement too much. They probably wouldn't want to upset him either by getting someone else to spend the money. The board's approach to Arsene is simple, if he's good enough to keep, they will trust every decision he makes, including the horrible ones.

Check Gazidis interveriew when he was with the fans, he made it clear that Wenger has the final decision on transfers and how much money is spent on each one.

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01 Aug 2011 15:12:21
we can forget about mata he has signed a new contract at valencia

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Nothing on valencia website and surely they would have it posted straight away

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Its not a signed contract its a rolloin contract that automatically renews accordin to GB, not sure if this is true or not tho
BD

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01 Aug 2011 15:04:29
Forgive me if I am wrong but I thought we had a tranfer kitty of 30 m + without selling anyone. Therefore AW and IG could have handed Valencia the money then re couped the costs with the sales of bendtner, cesc and nasri. Why is our club becoming a leading finacial base for English football and not a team that win stuff and become a financial base. I still trust wenger however at the moment my trust is wearing thin.

If we have missed out let's hope we will can get jags and another Cb and a creative midfielder that is just as good as cesc. If not we are defo looking at either 5 th or 6 th this year

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How do you work that out?Gervinho 10-11 million transfer fee plus contract worth about 10 million.That leaves around 10-15 million at best.Jim Bean

{Ed022's Note - I do keep saying that a transfer budget includes contract renewals and new signings contract. Therefore Wenger is spending what we're receiving in fees. Lets not forget Nasri could still sign a new contract and thats budget gone! We also have players such as Denilson, Bendtner, Almunia, Diaby, Rosicky, Eboue, Squillaci etc who are still on the books, still taking wages and who havent been sold to bring in some addition transfer funds...}

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01 Aug 2011 15:03:19
lots of tweets saying espn spain have tweeted mata has signed

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01 Aug 2011 14:51:07
IMO Balague makes up 100% dog s**t; he says every summer that Cesc is on his way, and every summer (so far) he's stayed. He's not a reliable source in my eyes. If this clause in contract does exist, then Arsenal would have had their man by now, no doubt, even though we are penny pinchers, i'm sure Wenger and co would have scrutinised Mata's current contract and seen this...

Thoughts ed and posters.....

Ben

{Ed022's Note - There is a lot of speculation. A lot of it is BS. Posters stated that Mata was at the Emirates over the weekend as a guest were wide of the mark. A) No-one ever saw him on tv. If he was there then surely the cameras would have picked him up as a story. and B) He was coming on after 64mins and playing a pre-season game for Valencia on Saturday night in Lisbon. We need to let the dust settle and see what happens...}

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01 Aug 2011 14:40:48
I reckon we'll still sign mata and why would we pay valencia before agreeing terms with the player and him having a medical?

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01 Aug 2011 14:36:08
when are all you( in wenger we trust) fans going to get it into your heads that wenger and co have out stayed there welcome at our club the reception they got at the end of the game yesterday is going to be the start of a huge revolt.
once again they have let us down in the transfer market.
IG hasnt got a clue how to complete a deal
wenger clearly does not want to spend any money on class players.
and the board are to blame, any company that has employees that under achieve and who constantly fail to get results are sacked

We are the joke of the footballing world.

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Arsene wenger and gazidis said the club will be very active in this transfer window. BS

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Wise words from a tottenham fan

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Last time I checked the transfer window ends at the end of August, not yesterday.

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Christ, talk about getting your knickers in a twist. Could you be anymore pessimistic? Arsenal have hit some really bad luck in seasons recently - we have been extremely close to winning things but haven't by small margins. No manager is a God who can control absolutely every variable and it is sometimes something small that makes the difference.

It's really shortsighted to call for Wenger's head. He done some quite incredible things for us and I don't believe he has somehow lost the plot recently.

Steve Bruce after the Sunderland game last season, "the man is a genius, I'm sure things will come good for him soon."

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Who are you calling a spud what gives you the right to dare associate me with them.
i speak the way i feel seeing as i contribute to paying the clubs wage bill what do you do buy the odd d.v.d and get a replica top at x mas.
i do not care what happens at sunderland
what i care about is the state of our club on the pitch and if you think that i am the only 1 that is sick of the board and wenger remember the reception they got at the final whistle yesterday, how many people stayed behind to watch our greatest player lift the cup.
how far do you lot travel every week to watch arsenal or do any of you even go.
mark wexford

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Btw, Heart of Midlothian FC, up here in Scotland, are THE joke of the footballinh world, rest assured.

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01 Aug 2011 14:41:17
Wheres Dublin Gooner, i wanna hear his take on the Mata news today.

Lets just hope Arsena get Mario Goetze from Borussia along with Subotic

{Ed022's Note - Dublin Gooner has not been seen for a while. He might face a few questions on the validity of his posts if he returns..}

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Very true Ed I will be very surprised if we go out and spend X amount of money on a few new players, as an Arsenal fan im used to seeing us linked with all sorts of players and we end up buying unknowns.

Lets just see what happens

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01 Aug 2011 14:40:47
Guys,

Think about it this way, we are the only team in the premier league who has been able to build a new stadium and pay virtually all of it off within 5 years.

We have £115Million debt, unlike United £440M, Liverpool £320M.

Whilst is is frustrating once our debt is cleared we can work on building up the squad.

Having said all that we could buy:

Samba, Scott Parker, Mata all for around £30M

Sell

Fabregas and Nasri for in excess of £50M meaning we are still in profit.

I think/hope that once Fabregas goes we sign these guys...

And as for strike force, a fit Van Persie and Gerviniho could be pretty darn good.

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You're so stupid. unless we will be getting samba and parker for free, it'll cost a fair bit more than 30 million for those 3 players. After this year a rule comes in so no, we won't be able to spend a lot of money. Arsenal are well and truly....

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Liverpool have no debt. Fenway Sports Group bought all the debt last year

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Once we get to a point where we have no more debt we have also fallen off the champions league which means that we generate a lot less money and at that point we can no longer target world calss players

If we don't invest now we might be seriously screwed

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Liverpool have £0 debt since Mr Henry took over {Ed001's Note - not quite 0, there is a small operating debt.}

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01 Aug 2011 14:31:51
arsenal have missed out on mata i know this because i work for skysports arsenal missed the deadline to sign mata, this now means that arsenal would have to pay 30 mil which i dont think will happen , so the chances of arsenal signing mata is very slim

skysports @ london studio

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Let's be realistic. The problem is not in attack, it is in defence and has been for the last couple of seasons. Yes, I am sure that Mata would have been (and might still be) a great addition, but we need to strengthen in defence and I am sure that Arsene knows that. I have no doubt that Arsenal were fully aware of the expiry of the release clause, but maybe following the weekend there are other priorities.

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01 Aug 2011 14:21:06
if its true about mata not coming to us now
i only have 1 thing to say
WENGER AND THE BOARD OUT

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01 Aug 2011 14:18:36
Mata deal is OFF. Deadline in his contract with regards to a release fee has passed, therefore for Arsenal to get him he would now cost 30 plus million, which as we all know Wenger will not pay

Shame but same old Arsenal.

In other new Joey Barton rumour is back, with him making a statement on his Twitter with regards to a future move.
Will post back then.

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Not surprised at all.

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01 Aug 2011 14:18:01
looks like we have lost out on mata, his buyout clause went up today. Wenger has done it yet again, can't wait for another brilliant season without a trophy as an arsenal fan. We could have easily made this signing, was a bargain at 22million euros, he wanted to come to us as well.

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01 Aug 2011 13:56:09
If what Balague said was true, that we'd agreed fee, player signed but didn't give the money I will be incandescent {Ed022's Note - Nice use of the word incandescent! For those younger viewers/posters it means really really angry!}

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01 Aug 2011 13:52:54
According to balague mata's release cause ran out yesterday and now he Will cost 60 million euros

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01 Aug 2011 13:50:43
The news mentioned by balague is that mata's release clause is now 60m as the previous 20m was before august 1st (today) balague says the deal was agreed and the money didn't arrive due to dabregas still not being sold :( looks like well have to settle for jarvis :O

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01 Aug 2011 13:49:33
Twitter has gone mad recently Not sure how reliable this guy is but he stated that the price for Mata has shot up to as much as 60 million because his buy out clause ran out yesterday This guy apparently gets his facts right most of the time and if that is the case that's just typical arsenal. But also this makes me wonder what Wenger has got in mind if fab or Nasri does leave. Surely he would have known that if he didn't put a bid in his price tag would rise? This either shows he was never interested or he has got another target?

But there is still hope if this guy is incorrect :)

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01 Aug 2011 13:45:55
I really find it quite funny that ever since the 2 draws in the emirates cup, the amount of doom and gloom around this site has gone through the roof. Surely you people who are moaning about the team realise that the emirates cup is a glorified training exercise? It is simply there for taining and fitness purposes, and possibly financial reasons.

Now another thing to take note of is that all of the goals conceded this tournament were not by our current 2 first choise CB's. So demanding Wenger sign 2 CB immediatly is rather silly. Kos and TV5 did a pretty solid job, and we got to see more of Traore, Frimpong and Afobe. And lets not forget we got to see the Rosicky we all want each week.

So please relax, things aren't nearly as dire as you lot make it out to be. 2 more players brought in and we are set for the coming season.

CT

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01 Aug 2011 13:44:51
Matas buy out clause expired yesterday. everything was agreed yesterday for him to join and he wanted to come but valencia never recieved the money. now he will cost 60m euros

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01 Aug 2011 13:37:58
To all the people thinking spurs have any chance of signing Mata firstly he wants Champions League football which Tottenham won't be playing. Secondly Harry Redknapp has come out and said that they can't compete with other teams wages and said the most they could pay is 60K a weak. Arsenal could easily pay 61k though i doubt Mata would sign for that 80-90k i reckon Mata would want to sign for.

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01 Aug 2011 13:33:56
(banter)

According to Arsenal News Review, where they've heard a whisper... arsenal will sign 3 experienced players this week- all internationals... 2 already playing in the epl- They reckon that wenger has finally realised that he needs to sign experienced players in order to keep his job.

IF- this is true, we could have a guess that one maybe jag, but who would be the other epl player and which overseas international...?

This sounds promising if it materialises...

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01 Aug 2011 12:23:22
hi ed, as you may know i have been very quiet the last 4 weeks due to the fact that i would give wenger and the board some time to sort out the transfers.
the transfer window is open over 4 weeks now.
my question to you and all the posters on here is with the start of the season is nearly upon us and a very important cl game coming up are you all happy with the way the club is being run.
we have just had are own tournament at the emirates and have to say that i am very worried about next season. are back 4 is still playing zonal marking we need 2 CB, we dont know whats happening with cesc and nasri, are forward line is injury prone and what other players we have in that position are not going to get us goals.and if shez gets injured does any 1 really think flab is up to take over.
why wont the club give the fans the feel good factor what was wrong with them parading the likes and mata and jagielka at the emirates cup if these 2 players are what we are after, just sign them..
i was at the emirates yesterday and i think the bad reaction of the fans at the end of the game was not directed at the players and the result but at the board and wenger.
the fans the tv pundits and any 1 that knows anything about football can see where we are weak and still nothing has been done about it.
i posted on here last week that i thought we would spend over 70 million on transfers i really thought things were going to be different this year but the way things are going i am very worried about the club i love.
mark wexford

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Mark..
at the risk of being assassinated by the monster from the himalayas, i feel that you are correct.. the fans, the media and all who have any idea about football all see arsenal as a team that needs major reconstruction..true there are some great players ie jack.. kos.. tv... shez..rvp.. etc but a lot of the remainder are just not good enough..for some reason the board or wenger will not sanction spending unless under the magic figure (which i guess is something in the region of £15m) just get to the arsenal website and look at the full squad.. there is an awful lot on there that wenger has brought in who are never going to be arsenal first teamers..infact many of them wouldn't even make it into the spuds....hes messing around now with cesc and nasri in the hope of keeping them when in reality neither of them wish to be here any longer.. whats the point?.. ship out and bring some players in who will play for the shirt..also your point re zonal marking... its been proven by other clubs (lfc in particular) that it just isnt good... the defending needs to be sorted big time.. the medical staff needs looking at also.. thats come from a physio who is not an arsenal fan but is involved with football clubs...not just my own ideas..
spending 70m.. dream on Mark.. i'd love it but it aint gonna happen... to me wenger is a spent manager bereft of new ideas and failing miserably.. you know in your own heart that its not what it once was at arsenal and im afraid its only going to get worse..
the end of the window is irrelevant.. the spending and transfering should be done the minute it opens.. we're likely to lose fab, nas, bendtner and end up with no time to replace... besides the quality players will have ended up being bought by then anyway... six years soon to be seven followed by eight.. etc etc until someone gets a grip and flushes away the crap and brings in quality..
i too love the club and hate to see this happening, but the truth is that it will, until wenger goes and is replaced by a more forward thinking, less frugal manager...with a good number two who just doesn't sit and wiggle a finger every now and then..
sorry to all the ''in wenger we trust'' mob but i just dont buy it anymore...

The Night Doctor...

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01 Aug 2011 14:14:22
Well done wenger, missed out on another player because your too slow. Get out of our club and let someone with some balls have a go. In arsene we trust my... EssexGooner

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01 Aug 2011 14:13:08
Surely if a contract was agreed then there is a contract they can't back down on, unless they warned arsenal about this. For goodnessakes, barca still owe us for henry nd hleb

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01 Aug 2011 14:10:49
ed is this true that we stuffed up the mata deal?? if this is the case then there are some serious questions to be asked of gazzidis and co
jay

{Ed022's Note - Unfortunately I have been away for a couple of hours and came back to see dozens of posts saying the same sort of thing about the deal being messed up! I will look into it and see what I can dig up!}

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Please ed don't let this be true . feeling very let down by all of these reports . when will we just by some big names to give us something to look forward to instead of putting our heads in our hands ??

{Ed022's Note - We're all in the same boat mate. I too am now very annoyed with our inability (it seems) to sign Mata. From the people I have spoken to just now it seems the transfer fee was agreed but the money was never sent as Wenger (as I stated a couple of days ago) refuses to buy a player whilst Fabregas and/or Nasri are still at the club. My mind boggles!}

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01 Aug 2011 14:09:52
Apparently price agreed with Valencia for Mata was good until yesterday. All was agreed but Ivan didn't get the dosh to them in time. Now the price is 60m Euros. How galagtically stupid is our club?

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01 Aug 2011 14:08:52
No Mata coming in. Wenger mucks it up again. With the way we are going I doubt we will be in the Champions League this year let alone next

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01 Aug 2011 14:08:14
juan mata deal is off as his 20-23 million clause finished yesterday and now worth 60 mil

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01 Aug 2011 14:00:46
Mata deal looks to be off, his release clause of around 20 mill euros ended yesterday, we had agreed a fee and player was happy to join us but arsenal didnt want to pay for him without the money from selling fabregas.
This is yet another failure from Arsene and Ivan, they seriously need to buck their ideas up and catch up with the modern game, you cant get world class players for the prices we paid for the likes of Henry.
I am seriously losing patience. My source is Guillem Balague's twitter by the way.
YoungGunner

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01 Aug 2011 13:59:04
According to Guillem Balague, the fee had been agreed and player was happy to go but money didnt arrive, hope this isnt true


Ib

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01 Aug 2011 13:27:57
GuillemBalague has said on twitter " News about mata coming soon and not very positive for arsenal

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I'm reading this guy tweets does he want us to think mata would cost 60m. Also he struggles to write a sentence doubt he writes in a newspaper.

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Balague states that the deal to sign Mata cheaper ended yesterday - an agreement between the clubs was in place but arsenal did not pay up.

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Dont believe the hype. guillem balague changes his story everyday. understandably the situation changes daily but i feel he uses or foolishly reports alot of smokescreens.

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Arsenal dint send the amount agreed by yesterday so now valencia want in excess of 30m euros..lts nw forget about him

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Yep the clause for him to go for cheaper finished yesterday. Now they will demand alot more money :-(

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Saw that too, don't see why they are saying that we were waiting to use the money from the Cesc transfer when we are meant to have funds available anyway.

Also if this is true then Wenger would have known days ago that he wouldn't have the money in time?

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Why do we leave it all so long and then get the bad news why can we not move quicker in the market ???

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Don't believe any of this. Who is this bloke anyway?

{Ed022's Note - He is sky sports Spanish correspondent and he actually (depressingly) is right most of the time.}

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Also just reported on sky sports news. Same old wenger.

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Balague was just on sky sports news and stated exactly what he has said on his Twitter.

It might be time to forget about Mata to Arsenal or could it be some sort of smoke screen?

Season starts in a few weeks lets just sit back and see what happens.

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01 Aug 2011 13:24:31
Yes, after yesterday it is clear we need to bolster the defense, but really? are jagielka/cahill & enrique going to do the job? they have premier league experience yes, but at clubs with leakier defence's than our own.
Wenger needs to buy Subotic &/Or (prefferably &) Hummels and Cissokho. Sort out the Nasri contract and sign Mata. If fabregas is sold bring in Hazard & De Rossi. Also take real up on the offer to take benzema off their hands for 25mil, try and deal for around 20mil.

Do all that and arsenal will win the league. Do none, we wont even get 4th, do a few arsenal will have a mirror image of the previous 6 seasons.

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01 Aug 2011 12:26:18
ramsey is alot better than wilshere

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Thanks for the rumor

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You need help mate

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This is very interesting, as I think that you a comparing chalk and cheese.
Ramsey is a different type of player to Wilshere. Granted, he has scored more goals than Wilshere, but that does not make him better neccesarily.
I rate both players highly, and would say that they (Wilshere and Ramsey) playing together have gelled much more than Nasri when he has come into a central role.
Ramsey is very much in the Fabregas mould, whereas Wilshere is far more of a box to box player (in my mind) and injects pace, whereas Ramsey is very comfortable pinging the ball about and looking for the 'killer' pass.
I suppose it is all subjective really, but what you are failing to realise is that these two will be playing together for years to come. Is Xavi better than Iniesta, or are they two slightly different types of player that compliment each other very well.
An argument can be made for either, due to their different strengths and weaknesses.
In the end, this is not football Top Trumps, but individuals who make up part of a team, and have to fulfil slightly different objectives.

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That is the most incorrect statement i have ever seen. Do you even watch arsenal.

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Ridiculous statement.

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LOL... You should be on stage mate.

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Haha thats like saying wenger likes to spend money....

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I agree ramsey will score more goals and get more assists than wilshere over the course of a full season but he would not be able to without wilshere there to cover for him i think they will be an excellent midfield partnership in the years to come i think the only reason wilshere is so much more highly regarded than ramsey is because he is English just my opinion

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that, prior to his injury, Ramsey was seen as the more promising of the two players but obviously, during his recovery, Wilshere worked hard and developed so well that he effectively leap-frogged Ramsey. Both very different plYers but tbh, it excites me to think of the partnership they can develop for us over the coming years......

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What drug do you take mate?

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01 Aug 2011 12:22:04
Arsenal to sign three players this week. All are internationals. Two already play in the EPL.
This all according to ANR.

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What's ANR? Cheers

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Sorry if this is obvious but what does ANR stand for?

connor

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Another Nonsense Reporter most likely;)

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Arsenal News Review / Myles Palmer

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01 Aug 2011 11:47:39
Hi, big fan of the site. with no club football being played of course transfer rumors are what satisfy our unrest after a bad season.

but.

a lot of the arsenal faithful are giving up hope, already shouting out about how we need a CB or another ST. we have a few weeks left of transfer window opportunity, yet people are already attacking wenger. i think that out of anybody he is going to be the one most aware of how he has to do SOMETHING. (remember arshavin was signed on the day after the last day of the window...)

so all i ask is at least wait until transfer window closes before shouting for the heads of managers and players. because i know he has something up his sleeve.

so far he has spent almost exactly what he has brought and we know there are funds available. now, this to me suggests he is saving as much as he can for 2 or 3 top signings (eg supposed 50 mil kitty = 15mil+15mil+20mil)

so be patient...

for in wenger i and u, also should trust

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We play 2 champions league games plus games against Newcastle, Liverpool and United before the transfer window closes.
So patients is not really what we need, it's time for action now to start the season with a strong team.

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Wenger has lost touch w modern game; should be in charge of our youth team, not the first team.

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We the fans were aware the last 6 years that the team we had was not up to it and nothing was done about it so what in your opinion has changed
mark wexford

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The problems is we can't wait till the end of the Window, the squad needs to registered before Friday 5th August for the champions league. It s this week or nothing again......

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Im just saying, i agree that its make or break this season. if nothing happens and we fail again. then i will jump on the booboy bandwagon. i just think this season is gonna either be our turnaround or downfall
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Yea, I agree.. obviously nobody is "happy" with the current situation but I'm going to give Wenger this season, one reason is that I want to see him build a succesful team again, and because I too feel that he has something up his sleeve

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01 Aug 2011 11:42:15
I reckon Wenger has one year left in case he doesnt deliver - failure to strengthen defense/midfield this summer SHOULD cost him his job.. sad, but i dont think he fits the modern game where unfortunatley you have to spend to get somewhere.. i wish it wasnt true but it simply is. If he doesnt realize that i am affraid its in the interest of the club to replace him..
On another topic, i'd love to see Usmanov take the club off Kroenke.

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Seriously? These clubs/managers that are spending to get somewhere are either spending their way into debt and administration, or the play thing of a stupidly rich man. what you claim as fact as the 'modern game' is obviously not the only way, and definately not the right way. The sheiks can afford to pay £200,000+ a week to their players, but Man City can't. Now i read that average players like De Jong are demanding their share too. Don't make me laugh that all that is in the interest of the club. If, as you claim, Wenger spends no money between now and September then i'll happily eat my words, and will scratch my head like everybody else. And on another topic; the only good that Usmanov would bring would be David Dein.

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What about city then? they spend all the time but weren't even close to win the league. when we were at our best, no premier league team matched us. we lost because we lacked consistency and maturity (west brom, newcastle). we need one good cb and maybe lb but that should be enough (and if cesc or nasri leaves, then replacement)

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How does everyone know wenger hasnt been trying to bring in players he may have been trying to get players in but arsenal cant afford the huge transfer fees for top world class players if if wenger signs 1 or 2 players i will be happy is everyone forgetting this is the same team that hammered chelsea last season and beat barca in the first leg of the champions league the team just has to be more consistent and hopefully stay injury free a fit RVP will score 25-30 goals a season walcotte 15-20 arshaven 10-20 nasry (if he stays) 15-20 that is alot of goals between 4 players if they can stay fit

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01 Aug 2011 11:14:44
i wat at that emirates yesterday and i thought we played well but need to shoot more. also arshavin and chamakh should be sold there not up to it

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01 Aug 2011 11:04:03
Ed what is happening with our defense? Why is Wenger not signing a centre half when it's obvious to the whole world we need one?

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01 Aug 2011 10:38:05
After watching the Emirates Cup and not even winning that let alone a game in the tournament; look at the goals we conceded balls into our box not defended properly, I personally think we need 2 centre backs, Kos

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To be honest, in the first game the defence was shockin when kos come off, and yesterday when we had both tv5 and kos they looked solid. I agree we need a cb, but I dont think we need 2.

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01 Aug 2011 10:34:26
I'm I The Only One Who Thinks Gazza Cahill Would Be The Best Option In Defence

{Ed022's Note - I would say its 70/30 in favour of Jagielka with regards to fans opinions on here. Wenger is also more keen on Jagielka this summer but I have a sneaky feeling Gaz Cahill will sign on a free NEXT summer...}

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Hopefully I Heard His Good Friends With Wilshere And Hopefully We Can Start Building On A Full English Defence Jekinson Jagielka And Cahill

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Jenkinson is half finnish

{Ed022's Note - He is dual nationality Finnish and English. Dad is British and mum is Finnish. If he were to play for England then he will become an English international. Therefore, being called English. This obviously works the other way round if he plays for Finland.}

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01 Aug 2011 10:25:00
After watching the emirates cup yesterday it is quite clear we need tosign some new players and sell.yet again it's our defence letting us down and obviously we need to new faces at the back as we can't defend against teams like boca and NYRB whhat chance have we in the prem. Aw should look to sign jagielka and enrique to strenghten the back 4 but it would be nice to see him push for marcelo who is out of favour at Madrid.The mata deal should be completed but I still think the midfield could do with a couple more faces possibly hazard and cazorla but maybe bigger dependant on the fabregas and nasri sales then we should target the de rossi and hamsik. Still I think the attack needs another player in that of benzema as gervinho looks set to play wide and vpon his own. Chamakh still doesn't look capable on his own to score and this is where benzema would fit.with news signings we will look good for wining the league but loosing fabregas and nasri and not filling the gaps we won't finish in the top 4.

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We missed out on cazorla mate, his signed for malaga

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Malaga are becoming like the mancity of Spain aren't they

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01 Aug 2011 10:20:25
1.I told you
2.why is it now that a lot of peopleare copying the team that i said will happen ages ago and then claiming they where right when i wrote about three analysis of the team
3. i said frimpong was great on many occasions and everyone was slaughtering me saying 'you cant judge him on his youth career ...blah blah blah
4.i said that afobe and aneke where great i got slaughted even before afobe came on yesterdayi wrote on the rumour page look out for him then after the match people say he impressed them .
5. like i always say i may be wrong or right but so far i have been right and when i wrote some of these things i got like 5 disagres its not just me this happens to like ben who said we will try and get jagielka and many did not beleive him me included but he was right

the team i put was this
[................scezsny
...sagna.....jags....tv5......gibbs
...........cm/dm...wilshere
...gervinho......nasri.........mata
.....................rvp
cm/dm=song/ramsey/frimpong]

so there
1732[banter plz ed]

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R u saying that the squad picked will get u in the top 4 gibbs not good enough yet wilshire not ready 4 the big games rvp will become isolated in the big games i would be looking at another gk aswel as lb cf cm/dm

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Wilshere not ready for the big games? He schooled Man U last season, looked like our best player against Barca and was England's best player too....Wilshere looks like he was born ready.

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01 Aug 2011 10:17:22
as a west ham fan i do like the way arsenal play this weekend confirmed what everybody knows you are lacking quality in certain areas you cant judge some the players on friendlies i agree . but you are talking top4 football how many headed goals will rvp get against lfc mufc mcfc cfc not many you need somebody big n strong up front some1 who can score headed goals arsenal have 4 at least the past 2 seasons have had the smallest front line defo lb gibbs needs to go out on loan if your goin to lose nasri i would av looked at adam jonson +cash ur back 4 r already leaking goals 1st 3 games nufc lfc mufc if aw gets it wrong you may not even make europe needs at least 5 players

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01 Aug 2011 10:04:40
Are we going to sign Mata, and Jagielka? I'd like to think we will. We still have to offload some players to, Bendtner and Eboue at least. I still think we could do without Rosicky and Diaby oh and Almunia. Just hope any pending deals cab be done before our last friendly game against Benfica.

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I thought Rosicky had a great game yesterday.

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He did in the middle but he won't get played there every game seeing as Ramsey, Jack and Song are there. I don't see him in the left if Nasri stays and we have Gervinho. I don't think we ever saw the best of Tommy because of his leg break. Shame really because he is/was a quality player. If he could nail down the centre mid role and excel there it would be brilliant.

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Yes i agree that rosicky had a great game yesterday, brought back flashes from his time at dortmund

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01 Aug 2011 09:30:48
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH WENGER & IVAN ? ARE THEY ABSOLUTELY BLIND OR ARE THEY SOLELY CONCERNED WITH THE BOARDS WISHES ? THIS SITUATION IS JUST SIMPLY RIDICULOUS.

WE HAVE A TEAM THAT IS MAYBE THREE PLAYERS AWAY FROM BEING FANTASTIC, WE HAVE A BILLIONAIRE OWNER, ANOTHER BILLIONAIRE SHARE HOLDER BEHIND HIM, THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPLASH MONEY DUE TO THE NEW REGULATIONS FROM NEXT YEAR AND THESE GUYS SIMPLY REFUSE TO DO IT. I DONT BLAME ANY OF THE FANS FROM VENTING THEIR FEELINGS YESTERDAY. THEY ARE WELL ENTITLED TO STAND UP FOR OUR CLUB BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WENGER OR THE BOARD HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING IT. WELL DONE GUYS, IT'S A PITY THAT THE PLAYERS HAD TO BE SUBJECTED TO IT BUT YOU HAD NO OTHER AVENUE OPEN TO YOU AS EVERY TIME YOU SPEAK TO IVAN.

I DONT BLAME CESC OR NASRI EITHER. THEY'RE CLEVER GUYS AND THEY KNOW THIS IS JUST CRAP FROM THE BOARD AND THEIR MOUTH PIECES.

ANY person COULD LAY OUT A BETTER PLAN OF ACTION THAN WENGER , IVAN & CO.

1. KEEP NASRI
2. EITHER KEEP CESC OR REPLACE HIM WITH MATA WITHIN TWO DAYS
3. BUY ONE GOOD CB
4. BUY ONE GOOD LB
5. TAKE SCOTT PARKER ON LOAN FOR THE SEASON

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Firstly, it annoys everyone when you type in capital letters. BORE.

Secondly, why don't you wait a bit, loads of clubs have not done much business yet, its the way of the world. If you think your more intelligent than Gazidis and Wenger then by all means lets put you forward to run Arsenal.

We will buy cover for Fabregas and we will sign a defender, so with this its 3 quality signings. Spending and chopping and changing too much at a time hails no benefit whatsoever.

You need to remember that money does not always buy success... We are all frustrated at this point, even the most passive of fans, but your reaction is way over the top.

Stiggy

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Agree with some of your points, but the caps just make this painful to read.

{Ed022's Note - I agree. Can I suggest no more posts ALL IN CAPITALS please.}

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Stiggy, man united won the title last season and have already signed players, barca won the champions league and have built on their squad. We won't even get top 4 this season

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01 Aug 2011 09:08:22
Firstly I was at the Emirates as per usual yesterday and it was nice to meet some new people up there yesterday but I thought it was disgraceful to boo the players off and ruin the Legend TH14's day. Yes we didn't look promising and threatening. Yes we should have taken more shots but that does not mean the players should be booed off.

Although the Emirates cup was quite negative there were some positives. Firstly, Koscielny looked better than last season and would be perfect cover for a possible partnership of TV5 and Jags. Secondly, Szcezny yet again looked good in goal as well as Fabianski and Manone. I believe these three will suffice for years to come. Thirdly, Benik Afobe. This kid came on with a lot of fans bewildered to who this mystery kid was and by time the full time whistle had blown everyone was impressed by his pace, drive, strength and desire to play for Arsenal. Another prospect was Frimpong. He went hard in for the tackle, chased persistently and had a formidable partnership with Jack. I believe that Frimpong would be the perfect cover for Song and could even start competing for his place this season. Kyle Bartley. Despite scoring an own goal the kid looked solid. I would not say he is one for right now but 2 or 3 years time he could be a name on the team sheet week in week out. Finally, I know some people are not certain regarding Gervinho but remember he is still gelling with the team. Despite this he has lpayed 3 scored 2 and set up 1. Pretty decent stats. Also whenever he picked up the ball there was a buzz around the stadium due to his direct play.

Admittedly we weren't amazing but never at one point during that tournament did we have Wilshere, Nasri, Mata?, Gervinho, RVP all out there at once. You cannot tell me that it will not be as good as Ramsey, Afobe, Rosicky, Arshavin, Vela and Chamackh. Rosicky and Arshavin played well and could be good cover for this year as well as one of Wallcott or Gervinho on the bench with the possible arrival of Joel Campbell.

This is who I would think would be in our lineup for next year.
--------------------Szcezny----------------------- Sagna-------Jags---------------TV5------Gibbs---- ------------------Song------Wilshere--------------Gervinho----------------Nasri--------------Mata--------------------------RVP------------------------

With the following on the bench: Fabianski, Koscielny, Arshavin, Rosicky, Chamckh, Ramsey, Wallcott and Djourou

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Why chamackh on the bench?

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Your can only have 7 players on the bench :S

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Looks like a good line up and I agree that would be my first choice if Mata and Jags arrive.
Only concern is Nasri's Commintment now Are we gonna have the same half heated performances that Cesc showed us last season e.g. Away to Barca

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What about ryo?

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Koscielny on the bench? Are you nuts?

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01 Aug 2011 08:54:46
Those people reporting that Mata was at the emirates over the weekend, are clearly telling porkies. As Mata was with his team Valenica in a friendly against Sporting Lisbon. However saying that Mata will still be joining Arsenal, with Wenger trying to get cesc moved on ASAP to finalise the Mata deal.

Inside Goon

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01 Aug 2011 08:34:01
u do relize we cant win games with out fabregas nasri and wilshere we have 2 keep 2 of them atleast and if u noticed there was no running in the midfield which normally comes through wilshere fabs nasri it was the boringest game ive ever seen played by arsenal and no pace down the wings from walcott wasnt playin.gervinho looks ok.and i think this will be the team for newcastle,
shezza
sagna vermaelen jags gibbs/traore
wilshere, song
gervinho, nasri, mata
rvp

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I Don't Know Who Told You That What We Need Is New Signings Not Players Without Commitment To A Fantastic Club

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01 Aug 2011 08:30:34
the reason fans boo'ed is not because of that game itself , its the overall round up that we need new players and the board are doing nothing its games like that that remind the fans of games like arsenal 2-3 west brom , how can we not beat an MLS mid-table side?

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01 Aug 2011 08:24:01
Abu Diaby, Walcott & Wilshere already out injured.
Squilacci & Djourou, poor back up for Vermaelen & Koscileny.
Gibbs & Traoer not natural left backs.
Fabregas & Nasri clearly unsettled.

Answer;
Look at our training & playing methods, review the medical staff.
Purchase Cahill & Samba & sell Djourou & Squilacci.
Return Gibbs to his original midfield posiyion, sell Traore/ Purchase Izaguirre & Enrique
Give Barcelona 7 days to sign Fabregas at the rpice we require or refuse to sell to them.
Sell Nasri for £20m plus to whoever will pay that amount.
Purchase; Mata & Fellaini.

Failing which we will perform exactly as last season.

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Why Would You Buy Two Left Backs? We Need Another Striker

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You honestly think we need 4 signings in defense? Pretty confident in Djourou, although I'll admit he has regressed since returning from his shoulder injury last season. Why 2 LBs though? Surely neither would be happy to sign knowing they wouldn't see much playing time.

{Ed022's Note - Signing two left backs to give us a total of 5 players who can play LB. Thats strength in depth like i've never seen before...}

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You are 100% right

Its a shame the board and Wenger cant see it

Andy C

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I would buy 2 left backs because Gibbs is not a left back, he is a top quality midfield player. Traore is also not a LB & is poor. Hence 2 LB's or move Vermaelen to LB & one LB. As for Djourou I have always had high hopes for him, but he is not a natural defender & makes far too may errors. Can you imagine how much stronger we would be with the following 2 defensive combinations; Sagna, Samba, Vermaelen & Enrique. Or Jenkinson, Cahill, Koscielny & Izaguirre. We have many games to play & various combinations of these players would give us options as well as keeping players fresh & fit. If we want to compete with the 3 teams above us, then these signings are essential. Can you imagine the following in the top 3 teams defences; Eboue, Squilacci, Djourou, Traore.

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01 Aug 2011 03:18:52
I'm a Chelsea fan, but have always respected the way Arsenal play.. or have played in recent seasons. I don't know your squad as well as Chelsea's, but last season the goals only really came when RvP was fit. It did seem you were reliant on him, and I'm mates with quite a few Arsenal fans who thought the same. Gervinho is a good addition and I think Mata would be too, if you could get him. The only problem with bringing in quality for RvP backup, in my opinion, is that his target man like play is a pretty specialised style of play. Benzema would not want to leave Real to be another bench player. I think Song and Wilshere are pretty solid, and that you should let Nasri leave if he is genuinely not happy. He has been linked with us, City, United etc.. but I wouldn't mind if we don't get him, it's just silly to keep an unhappy player really. I hope for your sake Fabregas makes a move soon. Him not moving seems to have stagnated you a little, and I would also hope that the fee would result in a big spend in the middle. Vermaelen at LB, Koscielny in the middle and Sagna at right back with one more CB addition would be good for you in my eyes, as Djourou can be pretty solid and you have good cover elsewhere.

Finally, we have a non-Chelsea ed or 2 on our page I believe, but they're still good at telling us the information they know as and when they know it, as well as doing their best to answer peoples questions. They do what they do for free, so appreciation is probably deserved. Good luck for the upcoming season

{Ed022's Note - Isn't it nice to have a fan from Chelsea being respectful and complimentary about Arsenal and not starting a petty argument. Some fairly agreed upon views too...}

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01 Aug 2011 02:31:48
get pique as part of the deal for for fabragas obviously yous don't want to lose fabragas but Barcelona aren't gonna stop and obviously fabragas is worth more so yous might make a bit of money out it to am just saying because yous have a bit of a defensive problem and that would magnificent signing and with the money yous get go out and buy a replacement for fabragas good bit of business am not a arsanal fan am actully a Glasgow rangers fan a thought a would give yous my point of view have a nice day

{Ed022's Note - There is no way Pique or any other regular first team player will be used in a deal for Fabregas...}

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I was just suggesting it sorry if a coused any problems

{Ed022's Note - There's no need to apologise. Its free speech. But, I just cant see Barcelona selling/exchanging Pique (who is their best CB) for Fabregas, who, lets be honest, they don't actually need but now have become obsessed with wanting back...}

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There just trying to be awkward

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I for one wouldn't even want Pique at my club, he is scum of the highest order in my opinon

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Pique? R u crazy? He showed respect to our club in Fab saga. He realy did. I wouldnt let him to go to toilet at Emirates. I wouldnt watch the game with Pique wearing the holy Arsenal shirt.

DrchoGunner

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01 Aug 2011 01:45:28
Arsenal scouts were at the Rubin - Anzhi game on Saturday, presumably to watch Christian Ansaldi, an explosive left back.

I support Rubin Kazan, and watch all their games. Benfica have had bids rejected for him, and they have quite a bit of money too, after selling Coentrao, so I doubt he'll go for less than £8m/9m.

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I have posted this many times, but there is no chance of us signing an LB. Wenger has openly stated that he has got what he needs in the position. This is a complete non-starter, regardless of how good the signing might be.

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Didn't say "OMG Arsenal iz gonna sign dis guy, 100%, he's my 2nd cousin", did I?

I was just saying what I know. Scouts were watching Rubin vs Anzhi.

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01 Aug 2011 01:22:16
Is it me or does anyone else think Koscielny has "Stocked" up a bit, looks like he's been to the Gym?
just an observation :L

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Thought the same thing. hopefully he will throw a little bit of that bulk around.

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When he first joined it was mentioned that he had to build up his physique. I though he played well, as did Vermaelen. Djourou & Squilacci were woeful & need replacing. Samba & Cahill would make ideal partners for them.

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01 Aug 2011 01:15:57
I fear after watching our dreadful performance at Emirates cup, Arsenal seem to appeal less to Mata.

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Im sure a spansih international will be worried about a few pre season games. Its seems the fans get more worried and paranoid over this stuff then the players.

{Ed022's Note - Didn't Hull beat Liverpool 3-0 in a recent pre-season friendly? There's no speculation of players not joining because they lost!}

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01 Aug 2011 01:15:01
Going to agree with arsenalyeti here, it disgusts me that our supporters are the worst of any club. At least Man City supporters know that they came from nothing. At least Chelsea/ManU bandwagoners and arrogant tossers don't take every opportunity to moan. The billion Liverpool supporters moan but they have faith in the club and whenever Liverpool plays, the support is rapturous and it boosts the players big time. We go f*cking silent and I believe we lost/drew a couple games throughout the past few seasons because our support base is so s**te. If I lived in the EU I'd go to a few games, but I can't.

Now, anyway, some rumours. Cesc and Nasri 50/50, with Wenger optimistic that he can convince Nasri to sign a new contract by January or offload him for a decent amount and Cesc only because Barca are fannying about. Bendtner and Eboue should be gone by next week, Jagielka confirmed before game 1 at Newcastle, and Mata within the week. Have a gut feeling we'll sign 1-2 more youngsters as well. Koscielny definitely one for the future (made a post defending him as first choice with a new CB and TV5 at LB but the post didn't make it onto the page).

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Liverpool fans do moan, mancity fans have no reason to moan, chelsea and manu fans would simply jump ship

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Exactly The reason we moan is because we CARE It's that simple We wan't change and if we don't moan no-one will ever know. I'd say Liverpool are the most passionate fans in the EPL closely followed by Newcastle and Arsenal. Chelsea and Utd's fan base would drop significantly if the went 6 seasons without trophies. Arsenal and Liverpool fans will ALWAYS be there

StEvE

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01 Aug 2011 00:51:29
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUyEFjzjKM4&feature=related

Our best chant of last season.

Ben

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01 Aug 2011 00:28:43
I think people need to lay off Ed022 and realise he does a good job

{Ed022's Note - Thanks for stepping in to defend me but I can handle myself! I don't take the comments (negative ones) personally but do appreciate the compliment I am doing a good job!}

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I agree too, it's good to see another arsenal fan commented on the arsenal page, good job ed022

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Well I'll just join in this love in and say I think Ed022 does a great job too "We love you Ed". Lmao....

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01 Aug 2011 00:06:18
How Can People Say We Don't Need A Striker Bendtner Is About To Be Sold (thank god he wasnt up to it) We Only Have One Title Winning Striker. All The Top Teams Have More Than One Quality Striker Arsenal Need To Fix Up

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