Arsenal Rumours Archive September 01 2012

01 Sep 2012 20:54:36
Disappointed, yes, however the squad can challenge for a top 4 spot, yes there is a but, imo this squad will not be good enough to challenging for the title, a cup maybe.

Bottomline our "business" model is to stay in the black and out of the red, the transfer budget rolls over to another window. The club get ever closer to renewing commercial contracts. Maybe a couple of player will have matured into good prospects/assets, with a bit of luck they will win us a trophy or 2 before they jet off to rainer climates.

As a fan i just have to accept it is not winning at all costs anymore, the vision of the club is very different to the one david dein had, more than likely why he was ousted by the board and more than likely the reason why we havent won anything since.

I am really looking forward to seeing wilshere, ox cazorla, walcott, arteta, padolski all playing.... you never know arshavin might even turn up and giroud will be able to shoot on target from 12 yards.

Confused gunner

Well said, come on you gunners, stick em to littlepool!

Ash

It seems to me that Stevie Bould has help make the back 5 a solid unit, when the top 3 get into sync............We will be the ones to watch and beat, its 38 game people not 3
1st 11
Szcensny

Sagna Vermanlan Pers gibbs

Arteta Wiltshire

Cazola

The Ox Giroud Poldski

2nd 11

Fabinski

Jenkinson Kiosencly Djoure Santas

Diaby ramsey

Rosicky

Walcott Arshvin/Chamack Gervinho

Yeah really agree big man you tell what you think mr mam

As I said maybe giroud will hit the target from 12 yards, good half diaby fantastic

Any business model that does NOT have a profit within it will sooner or later fail. Football is a business today eventually it will catch up
Sagalout

Oh arsenal
Oh arsenal
Is wonderful
Is wonderful
Oh arsenal is wonderful
Full of french spaniards and polish
Oh arsenal is wonderful

Btw its wilsh not wiltsh nor is it wilkshire


Saint arsenal

Arsenal is just like the competing teams like stoke city.westbrom,sunderland,swansea and others who knws very well that they r not in the league to win cups but jst to make profits out of their sales of our very own experienced players like van persie n song and they still prove to be more than good as they were at arsenal! Arsenal should understand that our pride for the team, is not for the to announce their annual profits to us cz that's not our concern,our profit as the dedicated arsenal fans is to win cups....Arsenal removes experienced and adds the ammateurs who will nid tym to adopt with the followed sequence of loses!

The team we have now is good enough to win the lge - the defence and midfield are gelled and as good as any other in the league... if the front boys can fire then a chance we have

As I alluded to in my above statement, we are fans not accountants first and foremost, what difference does it make how much well sell or sign a player for or how much we spend on a players wages thats someone elses job. If we see a reduction in ticket prices then great, but there is money available that much is true, selling rvp might of had to to be done, the sickner is how good would we be with him in our team or even a someone like falcao or lewandoski.

01 Sep 2012 19:16:24
A football club is made up of many thing's and all the people within that club have a job to do. Ours as fan's, is to support them!! It is not for us to tell others how to do their jobs because if we did every club in the country would be bankrupt. The so called supporters which think spending money is ambition or a means to success are as bad as the people which spend all this money creating a false economy never before seen in sport. If you are one of these people who are like this I suggest you go and support another club. If you want to do your job, support your club managed by a man who cares about Arsenal more than any of us could possibly imagine Arsenal's the club for you.

Manchester Gooner

Well said, said it myself many a time.

gooner1010

Just remember that AW is an economist as well as a football coach and he has lately given the economics of the club more thought than the football side of the club & that's why a lot of us are concerned.

Very very very well said Manchester gooner
Arsenal forever no matter what

Well said

I don't think spending money like crazy is the right direction and I hate how the game has reached superficial heights due to impractical dealings.
However, we must be doing all we can to challenge. Our club does not need 10 million profit each year in the transfer market and our players wages are low enough for us to not need to turn profit in transfer market each year. What I do want is for our club to do all they can to move forward and not stagnate. Saving 10 million which could have been spent on a good defender or a proven striker does not smell like ambitious to me. If you want to call me a plastic fan for hating and criticizing the lack of ambition our club has shown go right ahead. I'll have my own bit of fun calling you a hypocrite.

What I don't get is why people on here seem to think only 2 types of fan exist - either someone who just goes with the flow and supports no matter what the club does, or someone who wants the club to be bankrolled. Well if you're stuck in the middle like me, both are kind of offensive.

I don't want the club bankrolled, I don't want Usmanov's millions, even on a 'revamp the squad now, pay you back within a year Alisher' arrangement.

All I want is for the club to sort it's wage structure so we can afford to pay those who deserve it higher wages if needs be, and I want the club to spend money it earns through all operations instead of pretending it earns nothing. When a club makes a profit in a transfer window, and arguably no progress is made, that is not what a fan wants.

I don't want to have no opinion of the club which is essentially what you're saying - have no opinion/thoughts on it whatsoever, or, if you do, go support another club. It's childish to just expect everyone to be happy with us being the only club who makes a profit on transfers alone. Most clubs spend in the summer, and throughout the year it is recuperated through ticketing and all the other revenue streams. What we do is make money on transfers, NEVER buy the players we need, and hoard all that money the club made through tickets and other revenue.

Like I say, there are more than 2 types of fan. Some just want to the club to act within its means. Doesn't mean we want to buy a trophy, doesn't mean we don't want the youth coming through, doesn't mean we hate the manager. We just want the club to back up its word and do what it says it is setting out to do, but ultimately never does.

AKB ALERT. Behave mate, like many others, I grew supporting Araenal competing and winning with players that cared. The Flapping Penguin and his business associates have ripped the heart out the club, and now we are expected to pay the highest prices in the league to watch mediocre players who have no chance of challenging for any of the worthwhile honours. So, if people want to complain about the current regime, they have the right. 8 years with naff all to show for it other than 'profit' which we never see again anyway. Those in charge are a disgrace, and should realise its the people that they don't listen to who generate all their profit in the first place. Us fans pay that money to see success, or at least to see us compete. You can't tell me that the 4th biggest football club in the world with a 60000 seater stadium that charges extortionate ticket prices, cannot invest more in new players? Where has all the money gone? Stan's, Ivan's and the Flapping Penguins pockets is where it's gone. 7mill a year for what. We've been treated like mugs for too long now. Something has to give. Time for the Flapping Penguin to get out before he does any more damage

Proper fans are going to support the club no matter what but at the same time we have a right to be concerned that we have been selling our best players each season for the past six years. I don't want us to spend millions just for the sake of it. I just want us to build on the previous season but it seems to me that by letting players contracts enter there final year the board are backing them selfs into a corner and we are unable maintain the momentum needed to sustain a serious tittle challage.

Windsor Gooner

Totally agree with manchester gooner, buying for the sake of buying is a false economy, as arsen has said on countless occassions he will buy if they are better than what we have, e.g giroud, podolski, corzola wake up gooner fans in arsen we trust.

When we make 40 50 million profit each year and pay the dearest tickets prices in the world maybe we deserve a world class signing once in a while

Wait a minute so what your saying is that you are ok with arsenal making profit every year, and then not even have a transfer budget? Because for the last 3 seasons we have spent less then we have bought.
Waq
I don't blame wenger, and I'm not looking for expensive signings... All I want Is for the club to IMPROVE the squad, not keep it on par every year by having to replace our best place n not the deadwood

Shame on your original poster. So we have to just watch our great club which we have supported since we can remember turn into a profit making machine for the owner and become a feeder club and not complain. Your advise is that anyone who points the truth that we are not even re-investing what we earn from player sales should "support other clubs"

Diabolical!

Ash

We are the most cash rich club in europe

Lads.we need to pay off our debt.then we will see what the club is about,i have suported the arsenal for 40 yrs,
Im not a season ticket holder,because of where i live i go 2 ,3 times a year.
I put my money in threw buy stuff for my kids and my family,
Im disapointed with things as they are,but Rvp,had a great year last year,Jw will be back,but from now on we must not sell top players
We are all gooner lets not argue lets stand together,but we must let the board know we EXSPECT them to deliver something,
I trust Arsene he is one off the top managers in europe
Just to let you know it costs me about £400 to go to a gamewith travelling and hotel,so dont try the arm chair fan bit on me

If the reason we barely spend and always make a profit is cause of stadium debt the board should say that, I'm personal fed up with hearing we have millions in the bank theirs money to spend then yet again another disappointed transfer window, we shouldn't be relying on injury prone players like diary or Ramsey

Jump down off your high horse, someone who wants their club to be successful is no less a fan than someone who's "arsenal till I die", were not telling the board how to run the club. But this being the great club it is, they should know what the supporters expect. What people are trying to get across is that, it'd be nice to actually give the fans something back every once in a while. Where was songs replacement? Don't give me the answer that diary is back, he's more injury prone than Darren Anderson and Kieron dyer put together! It's not good enough. Our transfer policy is like that of a team in the championship, happy with pushing for promotion but not trying to win it. Waiting for the premier league teams to come an snap our promising talents every time they want. I guess what I'm tryin to say after alls said an done, when we're dropping points left right and centre all season long because we never made a couple more signings, who will be walking round all week gutted, kickin stuff around the house, going over the game in our heads? Will it be members of the board? Or the paying loyal fans of the club?

Stockport Gooner

There is always the possibility that we had targets that were just not available because their clubs did not want to sell. I'd rather we wait and get the right player(s) than sign another Squillaci for the sake of signing a player. As we've seen this summer it's very difficult to unload these players and in the meantime the club are still paying their wages. Despite Bendtner going to Juve I'm not convinced that they'll want him permanently and next summer we'll be trying to find another club for him.
We've signed three very good players and if they'd all been signed on the last day of the transfer window we'd all be jumping up and down saying what great business the club had done.
In Arsene We Trust

So let me understand, we should pay players a wage that NO ONE else is getting? When you open that door, it will take you to places you will not be able to recover from.

WE MAKE SUPERSTARS, we don't buy them............shame is loyalty is a time of the past........

Selling our best players.........

Ok Lets see

Veira - wanted to go
Pettitt - wanted to go
Anekla - wanted to go
VAn Persie - wanted to go
Fabergas - wanted to go
Helb - wanted to go
Flamini - wanted to go
Overmars - wanted to go
Henry - wanted to go
Ade the WHORE - wanted to go
CASHLEY - Wanted to go
NASIR - WANTED to go
EDU - Wanted to go

All these players have one thing in common, we bought them for a fraction of the price we sold them and we are still seen a one of the biggest clubs in the world.

3 season ago, we had a dressing room full of players who did not want to be here, blaming everyone other then themselves.

Well done Arsene and keep on going, the trophies well soon be here

Sammy Nelson, the greatest left back

Fans have every right to voice their disapproval of how the club is run. I mean who exactly is the club being run for, I would argue the fans. With out fans this club is nothing. It has no purpose.

Now I'm not asking for the club to be run into the ground, but come on the point of putting a team out there every week is to win games and ultimately win the league. How ever Arsenal seem to be putting a team out simply to try and make the top four and receive the money that comes with that while spending the least amount of money. We have become a business first and a football team second.

It's sad as we were once a big team that played some of the best football.. We are no longer a big team and we don't play the same brand of football.

Look,
Arsene does his job with a dedication and a drive not seen in any other manager in the world. The problem with fans is, that job isn't to keep us happy. You don't hire an economist to do a football manager's job unless what you have in mind is financial gain. Wenger has used his statistical knowhow to give us a squad year in and year out that overachieves consistently given the transfer budget and wage structure to which he is beholden. On that front, we lucked out. Statistically speaking, given our financial situation, we should be finishing at 6 or 7th in the table every year, but thanks to Wenger's astute attention to statistical detail (picking up players who show potential for exponential growth in skill and value, and dropping players the second he sees something in them that shows they have reached the maximum of their potential.) Unfortunately data shows that you can make profits and finish high mid table, or you can win championships and take a loss every year. Oddly most stats show wage structure has more to do with this than transfers. Unloading players that demand higher wages but will soon be under-performing is what Wenger does. He does it very well. And he does it when he can still get the most value for them in the transfer market. I'd love to see a championship or a cup of some kind, but I just don't think that given the current mind set of the board, and the style of our current management this being a possibility. Our spell of overachieving is coming to an end, as market strategies innovated by Wenger are becoming the norm for most bigger clubs, so our advantage is slipping. If you want to win, you need to except that the club you claim to love WILL have to lose money. Good for us, bad business for them. In Wenger We Trust, until we see what someone willing to damage their club financially can do. The pitch is always greener on the other side. In the end we have to decide in what way we love this club. I'm not even sure I know. All I know is that week in and week out I will watch and support and love my gunners till the day I die. Win or lose, training on the moon... None of you are wrong. But all of you can't be right.
-M

All very good points made in this thread. What I fear most is our lack of squad depth should key players get injured. Diaby was man of the match yesterday but will he last all year injury free. Likewise Jack when he returns.

Arsene has stated he will follow the Ajax model and build teams, and I'm happy with this. I'm not too happy with the extortionate ticket prices. It's costing me at least 600 a game to travell over from Ireland.

All I will say is when you read the list of players above who wanted to leave, they were mostly unknown or there were doubts about their ability, but our manager saw something - no other manager did untilthey became the polished diamonds that Arsene made them. You could add Ljungberg, Kanu, Pires, Lauren and Gilberto to the list of talent Arsene brought to the club - some of them "unknowns" at the time and none bought for huge money.

Unfortunately the truth is that City, Chelsea, Utd and Barca/Real are allowed to operate as they do by the governing football bodies - even though it's obvious to all that this is detrimental to the good of the game. City and Chelsea in my honest opinion are a disgrace - no principles and no honour, no ethos or tradition - the biggest bully in the playground with the most money - buying players to prevent other teams from getting them and bumping up wages and market values. Utd were guilty of this in the late 80's & 90's when noone else had the money or crowd capacity. They'renot aclub anymore but a money making vehicle for the Glazers, and when they fall they will fall like an anvil - they're still relying on Scholes and Giggs ...

I'll always be a Gooner - I don't believe it's wrong to question or debate what is good or bad for the club - that is what makes football what it is. It's not correct to make statements such as Arsene pocketing the profits etc. -that's BS ... he couldmakemuch more money elsewhere and have bigger budgets ... but he is loyal and true to Arsenal. We must remain the same. Victoria Concordia Crescit

We also need to make more noise at the emirates, turn into a hostile arena...

The sunshine supporters will knock you for saying that manchester gooner..and wait till the "ive been a fan for 106 years" mob start,but i must say that was an excellent post and i concurr with your views

I still cannot believe how many people stick up for the Flapping Penguin, and still fall for the drivel that comes out of his mouth. Ooh 'In Arsene I trust' trust him to do what exactly? Trust him sell his best players every season end, trust him to not have a team that can compete for honours. We got done by Birmingham FFS! For how much longer can these AKBs trust this egotistical penguin? We need a change. Get some of the old guard in and around the place to convey what Arsenal stands for, but get rid of Wenger. He's lost it and will never get it back in North London.

WOW, real powerful and REAL STUPID words.

As far as I can remember for the last 7 seasons, we have been in 'with a shout' of trophies EVERY Year.......

As for selling our BEST players, these so called BEST players wanted OUT.... You would have players play for you, who don't want to be here? You an person or what?

I suggest you do go back to North London, London Borough of Haringey have a team that you need to be supporting and leave us alone.......

Sammy Nelson, the greatest left back

Football history is made by the teams that people relate to! Imagine if we are successful doing it Arsene's way. We'll go down in history as the team that outshone the classless money bags and truly earned success in a time when people would rather buy success than earn it.

City Away! Got my tickets :-)

01 Sep 2012 18:38:12
I know people wont agree and I'm not saying this will happen but just a little worried that we have stated we need to make a profit to cover the stadium costs which usually come from player sales. If Jack comes back and has a great second half to the season will we consider selling if man city come with £30m? I'm sure he wouldn't want to go but if we told him we wanted to sell him he might have to. Just cant think of anyone else who we could sell for decent money that we dont really really want to keep. Maybe Gervinho but thats about it

Please tell me you do not think Gerviniho
is any good

Santi
Getvinho
AOC
Vermalen

All would go for a fair fee.

Im willing to be a fortune that Jack will be a gunner till he dies.

D

How about Ramsey, IMHO he is really out of is depth in the PL.

We need to make at least about 15 million in revenue over wages and operating costs each season, not profit which would be counted after servicing the debt. With property sales continuing for another year or so, we'll likely only need 10 mil or so to come out of the football side and getting Bendtner, Denilson, Song, and Chu Young's wages off the books will pair with the ticket price hike to stabilize our net revenue. We won't need to sell and there should be a healthy cash reserve to make a modest purchase or two in January.

If we renegotiate all the commercial deals in 2014 as expected, We'll likely boost the annual transfer budget by 20 million or so, hopefully more. We're healthy financially and intelligently leveraged, thanks to Wenger's willingness to exert his control over the budget in a composed and cautious manner.

As an armchair economist, this all makes me tear up with joy. We don't need an oil baron because we understand the basic mechanics of the financial system.

As a arsenal fan they will finish 3rd

Arsenal are not in financial meltdown to sell players to service its payments.

wenger did not want to sell henry or viera or cesc, or rvp, they wanted out...and he sold song for the reasons we all know...greed.

he buys players who he feels are good for the club and its image. its more about the arsenal way rather than...oh give him what he wants...hes a big player.

you want to know what will happen when fergie retires? unless they bring a big name coach, the chances of them landing big name talent gets less...ffs its in manchester.

why do you think dzeko and tevez and the likes are at city, did they move there for the program? for the guarantee of trophys? nothing is certain in life...your pay packet is...and thats how it is now.

in the latest FFP reveiw only two of something close to 10 clubs who have big salaried players passed the review...guess anyone? Barca and madrid.

clubs that failed...City, chelsea, utd, psg, anzhi, qpr ( if they ever make it to top 7)

dont know why qpr was in there but it was...

arsenal can spend to a tune of 75 mill a season over the next 3 season and still comply thats how safe we are.

01 Sep 2012 10:23:48
I have never seen one rumour come to fruition from this site.
Personally I think Arsenal have done well in the transfer Window, three quality players in, diaby is Back Wilshire is
Back training. We have a strong midfield a good defence
And when the three new boys get it together we'll be banging them in.

Cabby Gooner
Cabby Gooner.

I agree, nearly everything on here is garbage, sent in by 11 year olds. Wengers is a massive fan of the Ajax model of running a football club, hence the situ AFC is in now & the future. The man is a compulsive liar & like all management, a shield for the money men. Will the peasants revolt? No, pay their money & then moan!

Exactly, if we had signed those three players yesterday, everyone would be creaming there pants.


A GOONER

I agreeeee gabby be cheerful plus playing liverpools leaky def it will give our strikers confidence if they can score

greg

Well said i would of liked one more players but you are right.

I agree that it's not all doom and gloom. Your initial comment isn't true though. Gervinho, the ox, podolski, giroud & Cazorla were all mentioned as rumours on here before they happened. Just the hundreds of other players linked that never materialised...

Ben was

Diaby is awful.
No wonder Arsenal get away with ripping us off every year if fans truly believe this

Well if you'd been on the site more than a month you'd have seen a few. Last year, Mertesacker and Park were rumoured on here, and they came.

It's been said all year by one or two that Song would leave, and that was true, as was RVP, and it was true they were likely decided even before xmas.

Truth is whether or not a umour comes true is not in the control of this site - the number of players we have been rumoured to be looking at on this site that have been correct is substantial. We didn't sign anyone, so not really sure that makes the rumours less credible. Fact is, we were looking at Cahill last summer, we were looking Mata, were looking at Wanyama... etc etc etc. The fact we didn't sign them is not because the rumours were 'wrong' it's because the club didn't act, two different things.

Giroud and podolski were both rumours on this site thats two and i think vela going, almuni going were also so thats 4.

Cabby goner what's your point ? I've seen plenty on here come to fruition . Wind your neck in pal .

3 Good players in 2 Class Players out when we were caught so short last year, thats terrible business. Go through our squad and name how many players could start for the top 10 prem teams not many. A couple of injuries this year and we are ********

01 Sep 2012 16:12:10
really? i thought Malaga gooner was always spot on.

Cazorla was one hell of a shout on here "a Spanish squad member will be joining arsenal" a good month before the cazorla rumours hit the papers. I still think the Ed's should do some sought of league table to see which posters get rumours 100% right.

Its not the first team its the crap that comes in when we have injuries

I certainly agree many rumours here are total bs ~ but I disagree the squad is good enough; once again we're gambling on Wilshere being fit in near future (and in the past that has always backfired!) and quite frankly the squad if 2 class player short!
whats more; the confidence boost to the team and fans a marquee signing would have is immeasurable ~ but yet once again AW & the Board happy to sit on a fat profit! what price can they put on winning something for a change? certainly future commercial deals will be suffering through the lack of ambition!!

There has never been a single orignal rumour on this site. Every rumour that is "correct" is just a regurgitation of something that was already reported elsewhere.

01 Sep 2012 10:09:03
what annoys me most is we had a chance to take on some loanee signings. And we could have possibly brought in Dempsey for just £6m, now thats loose change for us surely when FANS are paying the highest ticket prices. Instead we plod on starting with Gerviniho + Walcott + Diaby + Ramsey who once run out ideas disappear out of game! Shame on you AFC board. devongooner

If you think that Arsenal's fortune depends on Dempsey - you are delusional.

On today's evidence, where would Dempsey have played? I'm from the US of A and I love him to death but even I'm not sure what his best position is, or precisely what it is that he brings to a side like Arsenal. Goals from the wing? But - Podolski. Ball retention in dangerous areas? But - Cazorla. Depth? Well that would be a tough sell for a guy who wants to end his career - arguably the greatest in US history - with a bang.

We didn't buy him because the deal would not have been mutually beneficial. Period. I wish him luck at Sp*rs, just not too much.

I do hope he kicks Bale back to wing back for the season. That would be pretty gratifying, as well as hilarious.

01 Sep 2012 09:36:57
My prediction for the season:

Wenger is building a new team that will take arsenal into a new era and is looking to push through the youngsters like eisfeild and sneaked who did well on tour.

We will sign a Dm in january and potentially another midfielder.

We will overall have a great season I feel and giroud and podolski are more then capable of finding the goals. Also no need to worry about Dm as the way I look at it we had no CAM last season that was a brilliant player but had a brilliant Dm but this time around that has swapped with each other.Also though song was very attacking and maybe someone like Arteta and Coquelin who will sit their do a better job.

We will finish top four again my prediction 4th/3rd.

The spuds will only make Europa league and have not got as strong as squad as us as they have lost there creative engines in Modric,RVDV..

We will have a league cup/FA cup on show having beaten a top premiership team (Top 8) at Wembley to claim it.

We will make quarter finals of champions league but then knocked out by a team like Barcelona.

My personal feeling Is although it might sound crazy is AW will step down at the end of the season moving upstairs at Arsenal and in will come Pep Guardiola.The reason being with the way Barcelona play and arsenal being similar style Aswell as both clubs having great youth systems this is perfect for Guardiola that will take over and transform srsenal through the players wenger had set up for him Youth/Start 11 and throu his own additions.

As a whole I feel everything looks bright and everyone should stop moaning we didn't sign 1 player even though we signed 3 and let's be honest what standout, special players were there to buy because I didn't see anybody great par Javi Garcia we could of bought.

Prediction Sunday:Arsenal win 3-0 no joke, Giroud getting 2 and Cazorla

Gooner Red

Wenger will NOT buy players in January - FACT !

I think henry might come back again

Greg

Mad as a hatter. No January signings, no trophies, no 3-0 versus Liverpool, actually nothing you write makes any sense. Doctor please take me away the world has gone mad.

The big difference is Guardiola could afford the best players in the world at Barca - that's not the case at AFC.

Pep........you must be mental
our next manager will be martinez,the same approach we take for hiring a new manager will be the same approach we have for buying players......the cheaper untested option

It won't be a bad move going for Guardiola. Pep could afford the best players at Barcelona that much is true. But it wasn't that long ago Barcelona had to take a loan out to pay players wages. The business model in place now is when the financial fair play rules are introduced, Arsenal aren't in a negative financial position which would be appealing to any perspective new manager should Wenger leave or be sacked.

01 Sep 2012 08:16:13
Any other club would have the biggest protest outside the ground WTF..... For the stupid fans who say wenger just wants to keep the money for himself stfu, he doesn't own the club.... Obviously asa gooner ima stay optimistic but it's not confident feeling wotsoeva

01 Sep 2012 07:46:57
I'm not overly bothered we didn't sign anyone on the last day. Wenger must har confidence in the squad. He can't however predict injuries and if we get hit this season it's gonna be a rough ride. Imagine if Arteta gets injured, or Cazorla?

I'm hoping Walcott signs on before Xmas otherwise I can see him off to Liverpool in January.

I must admit it is confusing though as Wenger did say he was still in the market for positions, especially DF.

EMG

We can predict injuries, Diaby will get injured, Rosiscy will get injured, Gibbs will get injured, Walcott will get injured, and Wilshire may come back from a short injury ( sic )