Arsenal Rumours Archive April 20 2012

20 Apr 2012 21:57:47
I am not saying I think Rambo is good enough. I do not think he actually ever will be. But to be told to take my comments to jeremy kyle because I am saying especially in the last two months we need to get behind him and give him support is quite frankly disgraceful.

This poor lad has faced A LOT in the last few years and especially this season. There are very few people in the world who would have the strength to face what he has and do it with the sheer drive and determination he has, something I am yet to see from Theo, Chamakh, Arshavin. I do not know a single human being who isn't devoid of emotion who, at his age, on this stage, could go through what he has and still give it everything on the pitch, which in fairness to him, he usually does. Very few people could go to work and operate to their usual standard. And you want to tell me to take my sentiments to jeremy kyle because we are talking about a 'paid professional' - everyone in any job is a paid professional. We are lucky enough that we don't get stopped in the street every time we go to a shop, get papped, get abused by people who don't know us. I really cannot fathom the mindset of someone who makes that sort of comment regarding a young lad who has lost a hell of a lot, inside and out, on top of a disastrous start to a massive career. Where I come from every now and then you have to stop the BS, and do what's right. Supporting him til the end of the season is, IMO, what's right. Not constantly lambaste, ridicule, and abuse. Not saying everyone done that, but I certainly don't expect to receive that kind of sh**y response from someone with no name to quite frankly a very well-meaning post. You need to get behind this team. I don't know about the rest but I really dislike the idea that Arsenal have more fans like you knocking about whoever you are. So if you want to be one of those bitter fans who simply complains about how footballer don't act like robots enough and how they get paid this n that so therefore NOTHING in the world should affect, then do us a favour and go support someone else, because you mate are nothing more than a glory supporter. You don't care what the lads are going through, you just want them to win no matter what. Some things, like a young lad's personal mental health, emotional stability and ability to face his pressures, are way more important than whether or not we beat teams at football.

And I sign this proudly,

Raz

Totally disagree, I support any arsenal player but Ramsey is not good enough, simple and he doesn't even put the hard work in, he thinks he is a superstar but he is not. that's what winds me up as a fan!! Also why Arsene sticks with him, Ox should play, ten times better and works hard. Enough said!!

Well for a guy who mad some utterly disgusting comment about wenger and the team earlier in the seasson thats really rich!! you were eve running down the stadium at one stage!! wonder why you changed your tune???

We do need to get behind ALL our players, and asking why arsene sticks with him is simple, because he knows more than we do! we have't a clue who plays amazing in training. besides like 90% including my fans asked why he kept playing rosicky and now look at the guy, he has been amazing lately

D16

Raz, that was a blinding post, and I thank you for going to the trouble to write it. Couldn't agree with your comments more. Most of the people who are disagreeing with it are only giving you stick personally, which shows the level of their argument.

To the poster who wrote about Ramsey: "he doesn't even put the hard work in, he thinks he is a superstar"; what?! That's pretty much the opposite of the case with Ramsey! How can you even imagine that is the case? Oh yeah; because your football knowledge is all based upon repeating sensationalist opinions and not actually watching the games or following the club. You confirm this conclusion of you by saying the Ox should play there. If you watched him against Wigan you'd have seen he's not ready to perform consistently unfortunately, no matter how talented he is.

Ramsey wouldn't be a starter in the first team this season except for a series of injuries throughout, most especially to Wilshire. I'm confident that in future seasons he's going to prove his worth to us. This year he's had some decent performances, but there is plenty of room for improvement, that should be it surely?

Honestly, I just think it is too easy to blame individual players for the teams bad performances. Only very rarely is it as simple as that.

Ned.

Ramsey has lacked confidence since Wilsheres injury (both of them were our best players in pre-season and both linked up very well at when Ramsey came back from injury)and been disappointing this season but he hasn't been the liability that Song has been. People are going very over the top with stick they giving Ramsey he hasn't been as bad as people make up.

Raz totally agree , i don't understand how naive and fickle some supposed Gunners are, at the start of the season Ramsey was quality , you only have to look at his ball that set up Van Persie's first goal against Chelsea at the start of the season. And all you saying that he does work hard in the opening 15 games of the season he covered more ground than any other Arsenal player , below is some data that gives a true indication of his work rate.


¢ Aaron Ramsey vs. Chelsea = 7.83 miles.
¢ Aaron Ramsey vs. Bolton = 7.49 miles.
¢ Aaron Ramsey vs. Blackburn = 7.14 miles.
¢ Aaron Ramsey vs. Fulham = 7.36 miles.
Arsenal vs. Norwich = 7.29 miles

To Ned, I appreciate your comments, we all have opinions. FYI I am a level 2 fa coach, played pro football and managed semi pro teams and now run kids football. I think tha qualifies me of having a good range of football knowledge. Unfortunately Ramsey is not good enough for Arsenal and I don't think has what it takes at top level, an average prem player at best. V Chelsea he toughed the ball twice in 1st half hour of 2nd half and got caught in posession both times, His pasiing is too slow and decision making not very good. As a fan, when players are not at best we would like hard work and effort from them, I don't see it from Ramsey, what I do see is a player who throws his arms up in the air when he misplaces a pass or gives ball away. Ive nothing against him but not good enough for Arsenal!!

I totally agree i tbh get really frustrated with him but i have patience at the end of the day where would fabregas b now if he had as rubbish a start to life as rambo i say just wait he'll b a guddun

There are fans on here who seem to think that a man is not allowed to change his attitude or his stance. You're the kind of people who see someone try a splif ONCE and call them a druggy for the rest of their lives. You're the kind of fans who never let anything go and as such people can't win in arguments against you because as soon as you start to lose the discussion you bring something up from ages ago and use that even though the two don't correlate. Why are people asking me why I said things about the stadium, which at that time you also managed to completely blow out of proportion anyway, when I am talking about supporting a young lad who's just had a father figure die? (FYI those who don't know: I went to check out the stadium, couldn;t get in, there was nothing to see, so I summed it up as being a sh!t experience. I never actually bashed the actual building yet people went mental and because I dont take it lying down, this went on for a bit.)

You may not like me but does that mean that EVERY SINGLE THING I type is wrong or disagreeable? No, yet you love to make it seem that way. That means you're the disagreeable ones. There are still people on here who click disagree on everything I write - get over it, that beef was from the summer, which sad acts are still holding that kind of grudge? You're so childish and pathetic, immature and small minded that even when I say we should support a lad who is grieving you still want to argue with me. Why would I value your opinion or criticism of me when I know where it comes from?

This post isnt about what I said 6 months ago. I have proven time and time again that at any rate many of you really struggle to understand my quite basic posts and you selectively remember things I said months ago only so you can try and use my own comments against me. It's pretty sad, and only a reflection of your one simpleness. If you can't get behind a player in need who is at least trying his best then you're a disgrace, end of story.

He may be s**t but h tries so hard, unlike several of our players this season.

Raz

20 Apr 2012 14:50:59
i think EDEN HAZARD could be the biggest signing arsene wenger would ever make at arsenal.the guy is one hell of a player.he can dribble past five to six player,is very strong and has great vision.what more can you ask from a player? he rarely gets injured too a rare quality of the best players in the world.ronaldinho was that way during his prime,henry the same and now messi.i think EDEN HAZARD is the next big thing in soccer.hope arsenal sign him.

The fact you said 'soccer' makes me cringe lol. I agree though, I think Hazard will be the next big star. I would love to see him in an Arsenal shirt next season, but just don't see it happening.

Coity Gooner

Too bad he can't get past one, two, three or four guys! that would have made him even better...

If the club pays the rite cash amount hazard will go to Arsenal.
wenger is a well sought after manager for any top player to whom wants to fill hes potental.

He not in a top league and is poor at international level, he's a possible star but not worth the money that is talked about.

Hes not coming to arsenal he will go to man united or chelsea

I think it actually depends a lot on what other teams do and let's keep in mind there will be a lot of players on show at the Euros.

Modric and Bale will be two of the hot commodities as well as Cavani, Lavezzi, The Bilbao squad, Hulk, etc etc...

Billybob

Sorry didn't Wenger sign:
Henry, Viera (told board just before he joined) and Pires.

Yeh, the three of them combined dont reach the price of hazard - so whats your point.

The point nob off when someone uses the words it would be Wenger biggest signing, the three players mentioned are bigger because there better.
tell me do you watch much of the french league or are you jumping on a rumour bandwagon of how good this bloke is. Completely unproven.

Biggest signing
Henry w/cup winner euro championship winner
Pires w/cup winner euro championship winner
Viera w/cup winner euro championship winner

Hazard - Doh

There is no way that wenger will buy him its a big joke

20 Apr 2012 10:50:34
Sebastien Squillaci to sign for Leeds United on season long loan next year. Wage negotiations still ongoing between the 2 clubs.

Plz sell him..if no one comes then release him..

I think squlech is in the last year of his contract (for some reason, I thought he only signed a 2 year deal and was free in the summer).

Billybob

What is the point of loaning out a player who AFC are looking to offload and then PAY his wages whilst out on loan? Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

In truth, we would not get very much money for him anyway.

The point of the loan is that smaller teams will take the player because there is no transfer fee.

Teams like Monaco do not want to paly 2mln AND 50k a week!

Billybob

He is going to lens for 1m

20 Apr 2012 09:59:46
Ed,
This might be sacrilegious, but what is the likelihood of resigning Ashley Cole if he is ditched by Chelsea? {Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely at his age and wages.}

Probably some hate for this, but here it goes:

It's probably something of nothing, because unless he took a pay cut to around £70k he wouldnt re-join is, remember he did leave us for money. HOWEVER

A few weeks ago there was a article somewhere stating that cole was going to be part of a big Chelsea clear out, and that along with juventus and Psg, we were keen in taking him back, now I'll be honest, I'd take him like a shot. And I'd probably start him too imagine the tutelage he'd give to Gibbs? Clichy wasn't much of a teacher really was he?

Even if we got 1-2 seasons out of him I'd be glad to have him here, Sol campbell came and did a job for us, raised morale, shared his experience, as did good ol Jens, who I reckon had something to do with Shezza's upturn in fortunes, and. Most recently Thierry Henry, all of those gave something and were a influence In the dressing rooms.

I'd definitely take him

D

19 Apr 2012 23:33:21
Eds it's doing the rounds that Inter are battling us to sing M'Vila, and that if we get M'Vila then they want Song. Is this at all credible? Can you see Song moving if the money's right this summer?

Cheers,

Raz {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of interest in Song but Inter Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Manchester City and Juventus have all shown a determined interest in M'Vila and perhaps PSG will become interested as well.}

And barca

19 Apr 2012 21:20:57
Eds how certain are you that Arsenal will sign Vertonghen? Far too many people on this site consider it a done deal in my opinion. I'd love to know how sure what you guys think the chances are of him Wenger signing him. {Ed002's Note - I cannot say I am certain that Vertonghen will sign but I think there is a good chance that Arsenal can fight off interest from other clubs and sign him.}