Arsenal Rumours Archive July 21 2011

21 Jul 2011 23:48:34
Does anyone know how many fans did not renew their season ticket

Too many.

{Ed022's Note - The problem with "protests" like this where fans voice there displeasure by not taking up the season ticket doesn't work as there is ALWAYS 1000s of people who have been on the waiting list who WILL. Arsenal stick get £1000 p/person average and rake it in.}

The papers where saying over 10000. But there is over 40000 waiting to snap them up. So there no trouble there

{Ed022's Note - Exactly my point. Thats the problem. It doesn't affect the people the protest is aimed at. The board. It just cuts off your nose to spite your face. The average fan misses out in frustration whilst the board get richer...}

It's a no win situation for a fan because if in 2 years time we turn around our fortunes and actually start winning things again, the fans who give up their ticket will have to be onthe waiting list again.

There will always be some fans not renewing their season tickets, mainly currently for financial reasons. I cant seriously believe any committed Arsenal fan would give their seat up as a form of protest. Last season we faired well in all four competitions.

If the sun newspaper told you prince Charles was going to play left back for us next year would you believe it.....Most of what they write is untrue, how would they get that kind of information.There must be certain amount of people that give their season tickets back most due to financial reasons, and with 30,000 people on the waiting list its not worth making a song and dance about it.A couple of major signings and watch the media change their tune.WEgetting writen off every year.

Hopefully enough to allow me to get 1 this year or next support your team through thick and thin
Tim Taylor

I wish I could afford a season ticket but i used to go week in week out and since the emirates move I have been priced out of my pride and joy. The banding policy is unfair why should I pay extra to see AFC and QPR lock horns £60 for a AA match? I was a Junior Gunner all through my childhood and then a Silver member and I have renouced that now because I dont believe the average supporter should have to pay for the privilage of buying a ticket. The fairest way to sell tickets is ONE price for all, Season Ticks and Bond Holders first family enclosure next then general, no Gold, Silver, Red then General. We are being squeezed for every penny and we see no return of our input. Black Scarf Movement next year will make this point.

North London Elite

I spent 6 years on the waiting list to get mine, would have been 5 but there were no tickets downstairs and I was allowed to defer for a year. Other friends have spent as little as 2 years on the waiting list, being offered their tickets well before me. During that time I was repeatedly offered club level tickets, so I'm guessing the turnover on those is pretty high.
Not sure I beleive the waiting list is 30,000 - 40,000 anymore. And the list will include many people who have changed address, moved out of London, can't actually afford it, or simply no longer want tickets.

I have been on the ticket list for about 5 years. I was offered a ticket 2 years ago and turned it down. I was at 13k on the list a few months back. It all seems a bit random

I got offered a season ticket when we moved to the emirates, after being on the list whilst @ highbury. Didnt take up the offer because I had moved away from London, but, to be honest, it costs too much anyway. Travel/food bla bla - in a year, it all adds up. Fair play to those that do it.

d

We did not fare well in all 4 competitions, are you blind In c/l we started well, then wenger screwed up by changing the team, we were then hammered by teams we had beaten easily, meaning that because of wenger we ended up playing Barcelona who we are so far behind it was embarrasing. In the league we flattered to decieve and ended up in the correct place, the league does not lie over the whole season. The Carling cup final was an abject display - being beaten by a woefull relegated team in Birmingham. Why did we try to get Seb Larson back when he is nowhere near good enough for us. Wake up How much did it cost the club to go out of c/l when we did, when if we had avoided Barca and got thru the next round - can any one tell me - millions i bet.

You're all wrong. As of the AST meeting a week & a half ago, ALL ST's have been snapped up.

AST don't lie about things like this as they're trying to smoke out the Arsenal board's lies.

Ed. i know there are many people on the waiting list ready to take up chance of a season ticket and that is good for the club as they pocket the money. But the problem is the fans who take them get bored after a year and flog the tickets to mates down the pub etc and the atmosphere at games becomes worse to the point where they spend more time taking photos and texting on their phones than getting behind the team.

21 Jul 2011 23:42:24
for heavens sake.i thought the board said they would insist on wenger spending money...i cant see anymore signings personally, i would love at least 5 but its not guna happen.
and 10mil for jagkielka...hes not even 6 foot.i mean come on wenger we let in more set goals last term than any other team in the leauge because of our small weak defence, get samba in and enrique
stevie nic

{Ed022's Note - What is the fascination with the 6ft barrier? I will again point you in the direction of Thomas Vermaelen who is ONLY just 6ft (with strong rumours he is actually 5ft 11) and he still manages to be our best defender by a country mile...}

Oi did you know djourou is 6ft 4?

Yes i knew djourou was 6'4" and he is still carp...always has been and always will be.we need world class defenders.yes tv is our best defender and under 6' but he is not as good as kompany or terry or ferdinand or samba or vedic...he should be our number 2 CB and buy a world class defender who will help us at set pieces and be our number 1...samba is that man

Samba is better than Thomas Vermaelen? Not quite sure what planet your on mate, and cant imagine what lack of knowledge you have that would make you think that Samba would be our man over Cahill or Jagielka. Sure he's big, sure he's black but he is simply not good enough to start at arsenal let alone be the CB that sorts out our defence. He can continue to be the commanding CB at a club like Blackburn (who barely stayed up last season) .

How's the fact that he's black matter? Pretty retarded comment.

Reasons we are weak.

1) No imposing scary defender that can go toe to toe with the likes of Drogba.

2) Aside from Vermaelen our other CB's are extremely error prone.

3) Height does matter.. and although Djourou is tall and can head okay he is one of the aforementioned error prone players rendering him not good enough.

4) Aside from Vermaelen none of our defenders are tough.

5) Aside from Vermaelen none of our defenders have any leadership qualities.. something all defenders should have.

6) All of our defenders aside from Vermaelen are too 'nice' on the pitch.

Chris Samba would solve all of the above add to the fact that he has significant EPL experience.

In saying that I'm not mark for him personally there are other players I'd rather.. Sakho, Subotic, Lucio for example but there is no doubt that even if we signed Samba we would still need another player equal to or better than him as the enemy of our squad will always be injuries.

Happens every year and there isn't a player even close to be going enough to replace them. Prime examples are RVP and Vermaelen... Koscielny/Djourou and Bendtner aren't in the same league as those players.

I also understand the 'want' for a big name big money signing but that is not what we 'need', what we need is some finished articles that CAN do their job.

Samba is one of those options.. he's quick, scary, strong, can head, not error prone. Exactly what we lack

END RANT

21 Jul 2011 19:49:27
Edd barca have signed Sanchez for 23mil according to sky spurts. Is it really 23mil thought if wud be 40mil

{Ed022's Note - Sky Spurts? Is that a credible source? I wouldnt bank on it...}

I think it rises to 33m.

{Ed022's Note - Is that on Sky Spurts as well...?}

It's been confirmed by Barcelona on twitter

Ive read the figure was 26m, rising a further 11.5m in add ons over the next few seasons. If these numbers are true I find it even more ridiculous they would only offer £27m for Cesc and go about insulting our club when we refuse.

Spurts .. Really? I think he may be getting confused with :/
When the spelling is that bad you eds should just not post them and save your own time.

Barcelona have agreed to pay an initial 26million with an additional 11.5million in add-ons

Barcelona website confirms the signing

21 Jul 2011 18:57:26
Hi Ed, hope you're staying cool in the summer heat..
I was wondering, out of Samba, Cahill, Jagielka, Mertesacker, or a mystery CB that we don't know about, which one (or two lol) do you see us signing?
If it is not too strenuous, I would also be interested to know if you have any updates on the Fabregas and Nasri situation, as well as your insight into what will happen with Mata and, my boy, Karim Benzema. Thanks a million Ed.
Respect Man,

{Ed022's Note - The July rain is keeping me cool in this "heat". Onto your questions...Samba has always been a back up if the main targets Jagielka and Cahill don't come off. Jags is rated higher than Cahill by Wenger and I expect Jags or Cahill to arrive (if the price is right) Samba will be an August signing if AW is getting desperate. Mertesacker will be a long shot and I don't expect him in as AW is looking for EPL experience. I feel Nasri and Fabregas situations will dictate any "flair" signings such as Mata. Expect one of Fab or Nasri to go. Most probably Cesc. AW will look to sign Mata or Gourcuff as a placating signing. Your mate Karim will also depend on signings to Madrid. If, Neymar and or Tevez sign then he will be shipped out. AW is a massive fan but couldn't afford to sign him when Madrid snapped him up for £23m. Hope that helps?}

Madrid paid £35 million for Benzema

{Ed022's Note - ACTUALLY It was 35m euros back in 2009 so with the exchange rate back then it was about £32m. I got my 3 and 2 the wrong way around. We'l call it a draw...}

Yep, sounds good to me.. We have a very, very good team that's jst incomplete.. we just need a few tweaks and we're in business.. I would be happy with either Jagielka, Cahill, or Samba really, I think it's more our defensive mindset that has to change, we MUST defend as a team, espeecially on set pieces, it was just embarassing at some points last year

21 Jul 2011 20:14:47
Very suprised shaqiri hasn't been mentioned too much around here? Had a fantastic u21 competition, along with mata Technically very good and reports are fc basle will accept bids of just under 10 million? {Ed022's Note - Wenger is also a huge admirer. Spurs were sniffing around recently but yes, it is surprising that there hasnt been much interest as he clearly is a good player. Another Swiss player who rarely gets a mention is Tranquillo Barnetta is another good player as he showed against England. Although I think I would look good playing against England sometimes...}

Not much interest from the media, doesnt mean not much interest from wenger.

21 Jul 2011 18:54:32
barclays premier league news:arsenal bidding both Marek Hamsik and Ezekial Lavezzi both of Napoli and juan mata close to signing.

Oh if only this turns out to be true- with a good CB as well, we're be up there.

I very much doubt it, but would love it Mata is slight possibility though.

CLewis

I would love Hamsik and Lavezzi

21 Jul 2011 17:16:17
nasri will sign 4 year deal in next few days - as he promised a top qulaity striker will be coming in-believed to be benzema. footybunker-good sources?

OMG I hope to God you are right I have been saying for a while how fluidly Benzema would fit in with our style of play and he would allow RVP to play a "Wayne Rooney" role, linking the midfield to attack. Good Stuff,
Respect Man,

Imagine jags, mata and benzema..if them 3 signing were made i would be over the moon anyone know if footybunker is a good source or not?
jay

Footybunker is not reliable at all

How u do u expect to get benzema when hes on 130k a week when arsenal will not break their pewny 100k a week wage salary

Dont think so mate...hope im wrong

21 Jul 2011 16:16:06
This is from a school friend who is a FIFA Agent: The Mister X the Italian media are talking about, going to Milan, is none other then Samir Nasri Also, considering that gets done, Arsenal Will buy Mata, and have already reached an agreement with Valencia, pending the Nasri deal goes on.
The Ribery thing is bullocks...

Peruvian Gooner

Your talkin rubbish
BD

So your Friend in School works for FIFA? I wouldnt of minded that kind of work experience .... Totally agree the Ribery stuff is Rubbish

Arsenal are considering a bid for birmingams scott dann after they are frustrated about the price tag on gary cahill man u have givin up hope on samir nasri to the manager has said that he is not that urgent to get a new left back as he has many replacements as thomas vermalen and darren gibbs the manager has also hinted jenkinson could play first team so bacary sagna could lose his place
and arsenl are closing in on juan mata but thet still havent give up on real madrid striker karim benzema

We wont sign mata unless nasri goes.. if he stays then he will slot into cesc position.. robin will be moved to the left, theo down the middle and gervinho out on the right.

wenger is a fan of melo and with juventus looking to offload he may be signed pure and simply as someone who will sit infront of the back 4.

finally, theres a 99% chance of a cb being signed, wenger is not willing to pay the 17m for cahill and is looking for a cheaper option. from what ive gathered he wants a proven prem player hence the jagielka bid.

Hi That sounds great Id also be interested to know how you calculated the 99%....do you have a formula for it that you could give me?

{Ed022's Note - Guess + the media x 9.9 = 99%}

21 Jul 2011 14:48:25
Well then, to all my doubters: I told people a week or two ago that Wenger would put in a bid for Jagielka and that he was the number 1 target, and guess what...

Wenger is now ''likely'' to put in an improved bid.

Ben

If he was the number one target we would not have made an offer for Jones.

No please noooo. He is a poor English 6ft number two centre back. We need a commanding 6'3" + stopper.

Why has he bid 2m less than last time dosnt make sense ?

Maybe less because prices are inflated in January, and hes that wee bit older...?

or penny pinching but hope we get a decent cb in sharp

21 Jul 2011 14:27:43
I've just read on Goal that Liverpool want Diego Godin but would need to sell first, he is 25, 6 ft 1 in, has plenty of international experience and is good on the ball which would seem a good fit for Arsenal and he would cost between £12/15 million.
-Connor

Godin is a quality player him or lugano would be good. any experienced cb wud be gd wen i mean any i mean better than squilaci

What a pile of crap 12 million in football manager. Considering Rangers are interested in him, source STV, you would be looking at 1-2 million at a push. Lol one of the worst rumors I have heard in weeks based completely on bull.

{Ed022's Note - So are you thinking its a "maybe" to sign him then??}

21 Jul 2011 13:02:01
COBBLERS-GOONER..... so i posted a rumour on here yesterday that Gary Cahill might be having a medical here today..... well the grass has been cut, the lines painted and there is absolutely no one to be seen, apart from Ken who does the plumbing, so unless its not going to happen, or its a late one.... then i dont think its going to happen at all, anyway, £14M is too much for him, i mean thats £181, 818 per inch, and he aint that good in my eyes.

There was no 'might' in your previous post. you said categorically that he would be. yawn

21 Jul 2011 11:26:41
Arsenal look set to finally sell cesc this weekend for in excess of 35mil. Despite various rumours no immediate replacement will come in. Nasri will move into a more central role along with Ramsey for CM options. Juan Mata will join for around 21mil next week and I expect him to be accompanied by either Scott Dann (10mil) or Gary Cahill (15mil), however Cahill will not move if Coyle insists on receiving the full 17 mil release clause. Felipe Melo is going to Galatasary in the next few days which is great news as he is a hot head and overrated in my opinion.

Overall Summary: Mata & Dann to come in with Bendtner, Almunia, Squillaci, Emmanuel-Thomas to exit.

Kentish Gooner

COBBLERS-GOONER..... liking this alot, well not the JET leaving bit, but the rest is good news, but is Scott Dann good enough at £10M ??

I'd be a very happy Gooners if we sign Mata and Cahill. Matty H

Whats with Jay E-T? leaving? For loan or..?

At 6"6 Dann would be perfect and was superb for Birmingham 1st half of the season before injury ruled him out. With his presence alongside TV, it would be an ideal combo, Jagielka has been bid for but no way will Moyes let him go.

JET is surplus to requirements and AW is looking at new faces to compete up top and is looking to cash in on the youngster...loan unlikely.

Kentish Gooner

Emmanuel-Thomas won't be leaving. It is unlikely AW will sell Squillaci as he only signed him last year, sadly. Mata and Dann to come in, I can believe. I am of course prepared to eat my words if I'm wrong haha.

JET produced a performance to make a statement to AW against hastings in out 9-0 demolition. AW will hang fire on him if he is scoring goals expect him to be sent on super loan (epl) or AW will see what he has got in the first team and training. Expect Afobe, Lansbury, Eastmond & Frimpong to feature in cologne Bartley is still getting fitness back as he played against hastings. Our friendlies now are even more important as AW has made it clear by his asia tour that he will only pick players who he thinks can step up in his first XI teams.

North Bank Elite

21 Jul 2011 12:15:55
Whats being reported is that the board is urging wenger to spend...not sure if its true.

Regarding the Ribery Rumours, maybe a backup for nasri?

And with reports that barcelona negotiators are in london maybe cesc could be gone and wenger needs to go after mata.

I want him to replace nasri and cesc with Ribery and mata...and buy a damn CB and lets start the season...

Nasri - 25
Cesc - 35

total - 60 mill

Ribery - 25
Mata - 25

Wenger has 10 mill and he can use that to sign a defender...cmon wenger...even i would not laze around like you...before city snap up mata...id go for him first.

COBBLERS-GOONER...... Well said my friend, well said. If only AW read this site eh

Can't understand why so many would have Ribery here. Surely we won't pay £25m for a 28 year old, injury prone player. Especially considering his recent personal issues. Its clear for all to see we need at least one CB in and I'd love Mata here as well, but I'd either prefer Nasri to stay and move central or we a sign another proper CM if/when Cesc goes.

Ribery isn't coming to Arsenal.

21 Jul 2011 09:45:42
Arturo Vidal set for Juve.

Sarajevo

Which means melo is leaving.
bossarsenal

& Juve's Melo is on his way to Arsenal

Until it's official 4 me.
bossarsenal

21 Jul 2011 07:28:39
Denilson has completed his season long loan move to hometown club Sau Paulo.

Connor

Dont know who hit the unbelievable button but its confirmed on the Arsenal website :)

Im gutted

20 Jul 2011 23:08:11
C'mon Dub, let's here your big info???

Lol, who would press the unbelievable button for this?? Cobblers-Gooner was it you...?

Dublin gooner said he's got some huge transfer info that he'll post later... And it never came, I wanna know what it was