Arsenal Rumours Archive October 27 2011

 

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27 Oct 2011 19:29:27
arsenal transfer targets for january
marvin martin
gary cahill
m'villa
llorente

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Dont need cahill

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You forgot Hazard. The only chance for getting him. Summer is to late I am afraid. Martin recently said he will stay until summer at least.

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Dream on citah feeder club !! shouldnt think one of this lot will come to you , oh one van man team . ( he will be gone then anyway ) heard there are some cheapies in the 1st division for arse to bring on . bit faster and more mobile centre halfs than the c**p you brought from germany , anyway .
Davo

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You forgot Hazard. The only chance for getting him. Summer is to late I am afraid. Martin recently said he will stay until summer at least.
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pm4 said 2 days before he left that he is staying .....

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Ed002's Note - They are certainly interest in Marvin Martin but I fear he may not be available until the summer. Interest may also remain in Cahill and Arsenal may rival Newcastle for Doumbia of CSKA
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To Davo. Only reason Manc is where they are is the investment take away the money and your be nothing but a championship ship

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Agree with you mate , thats all down to the investment , but then I am not a man sh**y fan . true and loyal to the lane !

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No way ! The transfer targets are M Vila , Hulk , Hazard , Gourcuff , Gonzalez and Gary Cahill

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27 Oct 2011 18:35:25
Lots of concern on here about RVP going to Real Madrid in Jan. I think you are getting a bit worried over nothing, RVP is not going to Real at all, Di maria scored the 3rd against Villareal in a counter attack that took 10 seconds and 2 touches from Benzema to Di maria, KaKa is finding form and Ozil is class, so mourinho will not need RVP, Stop listening to Talksport and the rest of the reactionary morons. Here is an idea if we really want to attract the likes of Hazard, Gotze, Mvilla instead of turning up to the emirates to sit there and be quiet for 20 minutes and then boo the team of at half time because they have not scored yet, we turn up support are team and maybe when the transfer window opens and agents and players start mentioning to these players about playing at the emirates instead of the Bernabeu camp nou or old trafford, the only reason mercenaries are goin to man city is for $$$$$$$$$ they are never and will never be a respected club in world football.
Just seen the SSN report on the shareholder meeting, i agree with most about Gazidis but supporters should start airing their concerns at Man utd, Man city, chelsea and that russian club regarding transfers, They have inflated the market so badly that eventually this world economic deppression will catch up with all clubs who pay these ridiculous wages, Rooney 250, Tevez 250, Torres, God knows, do not be suprised if Tevez is still in the reserves come the end of the season as he and his moronic agents, advisors, and hangers on have priced him out of a move to all three italian giants, Real and Barca dont want him neither can the likes of Corinthians and Boca even afford his transfer fee yet alone his wages, until this is brought into focus more by the BBC Sport A**H**ES
and Talksport morons then economic implosion is fast approaching.
Hazard is good but not worth 30 or 40 million, Mvilla is good but not worth 20 or 30 million, until sense is brought back to the transfer dealings it is not always fair to concentrate anger at the board and say are club is only for profit, I know we all want to win something with the gunners but i would rather do it with are model than Cheque book city and pick and poach Barca.

Good to see Arshavin looking lively on tuesday and AOC what a prospect that boy is. Arsenal Boys Rule.

Roger the Alien

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Hazard gotze not gonna happen anyway but m'villa yh

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Roger yes there wages are high but
we had to give arteta 10k less he is still getting a lot of money but if everton can afford to pay higher wages than us something is wrong
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15m for martin
15m for marin
25m for m'villa the way

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Roger I get your point but to be fair, we have made a fortune out of good business and nothign more and we have done this so that we can be in a position to get good players and pay their wages - except our club doesn't want to do that. I don't care if Usmanov doesn't come along with 200mil and buy 4 or 5 20-40mil players and pay their wages - but I do not expect our club to boast about being rich, then charge us higher prices and employ kids and 'not-first-choices' and not even spend their entire transfer budget. It is a disgrace. The line is very fine between being totally acceptable and an utter farce and they sit on the wrong side.
Raz

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Everton are in a financial mess, hence Arteta was probably a welcome relief for their balance sheet, + taking a pay cut to play Champions league is a no brainer in my book.
Hazard could happen as i personally do not think he would fit anywhere in the Madrid side, I maybe wrong but Ozil, KaKa, Di Maria, Benzema, Ronaldo all playing fantastic football atm. Lille really are not that good so maybe we could offer that boy more options. I agree Mvilla is and should be top of the list, would offer Song, Wilshire and Arteta more options + good defencively, although sometimes just as sloppy in tackles as Song. would like Martin but do not think he will be leaving in January.
Is Torres not still banned or will he be playing.? {Ed002's Note - Eden Hazard will not be moving to Liverpool, or Arsenal for that matter. Real Madrid or Barcelona is his preferred destination. PSG, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan are all interested to one degree or another. I said over the summer that I would not be surprised to see Manchester United through their hat in to the ring with Hazard as well. Previous interest from Juventus has been on the wane. Torres is available.}

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Nobody is asking the club to spend money like City, United, Liverpool, and Chelsea do but we do expect something when our two star midfielders (Cesc+Nasri) are sold.

Arteta is good but an acceptable replacement? Hardly. And I don't see what money has to do with getting Arteta so late that he doesn't even have a medical. Or that all 5 players we got on deadline day were desperately needed beforehand for matches against Liverpool and United as well as an extremely important Champions League qualifier.

Face it, the club was AWFUL in the summer transfer window. Some of it was down to money, yes, but the timing of everything caused us to have a terrible start to the Premier League that hopefully, we can recover from and get Champions League football.

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Raz
I agree that the 6% rise for tickets is unacceptable + plus 2 new kits, Importantly though we do have the best training, youth facilities and development programmes in the Prem, my main point will always be the fact that clubs such as Man utd, City, Chelsea, Barca have over inflated the transfer and wage structures in world football and therefore Wenger in order to attract and pay for some of the talents out there would have to spend the vast majority on 1 or 2 players which would quickly fragment the changing room and lead us into a deeper quagmire than we are already in. Profit not being spent on the team does and should be addressed and the rise for fans at a time when Austerity economics is destroying peoples and fans jobs is not going to be welcome. If Gazidis goes another banker will replace him.

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Well said

gooner1010

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I honestly think wenger doesnt target very many players. I dont think he is being prevented from buying people, I think he just isnt interested in spending big, just incase the player is a flop and he gets all the blame for it.

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Completely agree with everything you have said... The people who read and believe The Sun need to stop going to The Emirates just to bitch! Get behind the boys and show some faith. In Arsene I trust!!

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Can't agree with Mr alien more. Loving your rant. Top gun.

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I dont think transfer prices for certain players will ever come down, too much hype and sponser deals will not allow it, Wenger i think has a real problem when he finds a player that he wants, almost immediately agents will start the gossip going and as we know, as soon as we are linked with a player then, Tottenham, Chelsea, Man utd, man city, almost every major club in europe will person their ears up and start trying to destabilize any deal
I do agree that there are 1 or 2 players that i think we should break the bank to get, though only if they actually want to come to the emirates and play. Mvilla i dont think is the star we are after, Hazard would be who i would break the bank for, much better than Nasri and Silva and as close to a european Messi as we are going to see, have not really seen M martin play that much so cannot say how good, Gourcuff too injury prone remember Di Maria only cost 7/8 million for madrid, 12 million for Ozil so there are players that can be bought for less than what is banded about by the person journos, so i still dont think we need to pay 30, 40 million for these players.
I also agree that are summer transfer was diabolical, although AOC was a steel trust me. But we still need to support are team, Per will get there, i know he is of pace but the Bundesliga is not as fast as the prem.

Roger the Alien

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27 Oct 2011 17:28:58
Sorry guys but something along the lines of this will happen in January:
Chelsea ins: Gotze, Hazard, Subotic, Krasic
City ins: Di Maria, Lavezzi, Hamsik
Spuds ins: Adebayor, Damiao, Bartra
United ins: Martinez, Marin, Hummels
Liverpool ins: Johnson, Luuk De Jong, Cahill
Arsenal ins: Doumbia, Vertonghen, M'Vila

We only need one of them players really, Vertonghen for defensive cover, M'vila is good but we don't need another DM and Doumbia may not even come as Newcastle are prepared to bid for him and have a decent fund from recent sales.
Another unhappy January courtesy of the tight wallet of Ivan Gazidis.

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WE NEED A PLAYMAKER and a left winger we can not play gerv on the wing if we play him out of position wont get the best out of him

that is 65m for all three when we could get
martin-marin-sow-vertonghen for that

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Marin utd they need a cam they have nani,valencia and young in that position

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I'd be happy with M'Vila, Vertonghen and Doumbia...

Unless you think Chels are going to spend in the realm of 90 million in January you are sorely mistaken. Gotze and Hazard alone will cost like 75 million as Hazard would surely start a massive bidding war between: Madrid, PSG, City, Barca...
Can't see Gotze moving in January either.
Also why would City need more strikers? Surely they would have about 6 forwards all wanting a place on the starting lineup?
Spuds: Fair enough don't rate any of those players that much to be honest.
United: Also could see that happening they need a better defense. Don't rate Marin that highly either.
Liverpool: Apart from Johnson I could see that happening. As far as they are concerned he would be worth about 60 million.

Don't know why you would be unhappy with that as those 3 would surely cost about 45 million all together? Thats like breaking our record signing twice and adding a quality defender. Would be well happy if only just one of them signed.

Gilo

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Hazard wont go to chelsea the only reason he would is if he wants money so he would go to manc which is a better option but RM would not sell dimaria if they dont have a replacement which is hazard

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Sorry dude but how do you know

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If thats to me, I did say something along the lines and yes I do believe Chelsea will spend 90+ million in January on knowledge in Summer they spent 80+ million and approximately 75 million last January

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I love how people can predict 2/3 months in advance of a transfer window that such and such will be joining who. Its laughable.

To the guy who wrote the original post. Where is your source? To predict that around 20 players will definitely be moving to these clubs is ludacris. To me it looks like you have just surfed the Internet for rumours, that are most likely unreal, and put a list of them together.

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Gotze is more like to go to manutd than chelski also would'nt chelski go for modric?????/

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^^ Ha, ignorance my friend. I have several newspaper reporters who have correctly told me of several big and/or unexpected moves, Torres to Chelsea, Mata to Chelsea, Benayoun's loan, Hernandez to United, Sanchez to Barca, 1 or 2 months before it actually happened. These sources BELIEVE this will happen or in a similar pattern, e.g Gotze may go to United and Chelsea may get Modric instead, nothing is set in stone yet. All i know for certain in terms of Arsenal is RVP will sign a new contract and Chamakh WILL NOT be leaving in January. People like Gilo make relevant points in these columns and clowns like you should try and emulate them.

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I very good, your sources, I bet less than a quarter of those transfers go through.

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Benayouns loan, 1-2 months before it happened. Considering it happened it the space of 1-2 days I think you are talking out your ****

Also, most newspapers talk **** about transfers and just make them up.

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I very good. Brilliant grammar and modesty my friend!

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One thing i did forget in the original post is that these transfers are OVER BOTH January and Summer 2012. Apologies if people jumped conclusions that all would happen in January, now that would be ridiculous! I also have news Arsenal are monitoring Llorente, but may or may not make a bid.

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Oh sorry. Should it read. Yes very good.

All you do is make stuff up. You have no clue what will actually happen.

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^ Haha, think what you will my friend, think what you will.

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Why would Dortmund sell three of their four best players in Goetze, Hummels and Subotic?

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^ A fair point, Hummel's and Subotic's agents are sorting out their deals because they think they should take up the larger offers to enhance their career sooner or later and Dortmund have apparently accepted this because they knew this would eventually happen. Gotze has attracted worldwide interest BUT I think he will go to Chelsea because they are the team willing to pay the biggest wages and transfer funds, however his move may not happen before next summer, but a pre-deal agreement may be signed in January.

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27 Oct 2011 15:05:02
what forward would come to arsenal that is a proven goalscorer that would come to us like
demba cisse / jovetic fans and ed?

that is less than 15m and if not less than 20m

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Could you repeat the question in english please lol

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Ed001 who do you think would be ideal to partner rvp and what is you view on walcott since you are liverpool fan would you take him and do you think he can be a great forward?? {Ed001's Note - I think you already have the ideal partner in Afobe or Aneke, I think either of those would make an excellent partner for RVP. Maybe even both at once with RVP behind. Aneke in particular, I think, has the potential to be a fantastic player. Right now I would think Park would be a very decent partner for him. As for Walcott, I have never rated him, even when he was a kid at Southampton I never understood the big deal. His control is terrible, he offers nothing but lots of pace and lack of vision, touch, passing and crossing. Best he would ever get to be would be a bench player to provide a late impact with his pace.}

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What forward should we try to get that will come to us .But is less than 15m?

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Ed001 so you think we don't need a forward as well as that do you think we need a cdm
LW
AM
? {Ed001's Note - I do think a defensive midfielder is needed, maybe even a LB, Gibbs is excellent but lightweight and Santos would give me kittens watching him play every week! Both would be better as options for left midfield in my opinion or to cover left back, but not as first choices.}

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Bothelo is doing well he scored a goal yesterday

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Ed do you not rate Song then?

Gilo {Ed001's Note - he is no defensive midfielder, a defensive midfielder will cover the defence and allow Arteta, Wilshere etc to play their game. Song doesn't do that at all, he gets forward far too much.}

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Jovetic

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27 Oct 2011 14:58:59
ed other than doumbia what other forward might we go for like higuain/jovetic and what price are they {Ed002's Note - Neither Higuain or Jovetic are available - neither will be moving to Arsenal. Moussa Sow might be an option.}

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Ed how much is sow and is he worth it and if not him who else??ed? {Ed002's Note - I am sorry but I am not going to be able to keep coming up with names. Sow will cost about £16M-£18M.}

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27 Oct 2011 14:29:59
I see that the Lille manager and president are saying that they are getting ready to sell Hazard. The only way I think we could get him is in January. Hopefully Lille go out of the CL and they are 4 points behind PSG so if that widens I'd offer 40m straight and hope they'll accept it b4 anyone else comes in. Him and Verteghon in January would do. That squad would help us qualify for the CL again and I think we should take the CC and FA cup really serious just to win a trophy and get a feel good factor around the club again. Then in the summer I'd like to see a big clear out.
Almunia, Squallici, Denilson, Rosicky, Bendtner and Chamakh. Maybe Diaby, Arshavin and vela along with them. Send Benayoun back as well. Then bring quality signings in. A CM,attacking wide man and a striker. Maybe another creative player but its Arsenal and asking for that might be too much!

RD {Ed002's Note - I am afraid that Hazard will not be joining Arsenal.}

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Agree with you, but Arsenal are not the Arsenal of some years ago. They no longer wish to win trophies. Just want to pretend they are the moral team who do things the right way. How moral they are is shown in the way they stole Ji Sung Park from Lille. Wenger, Gazidis and the pseudo moral Hill Wood are not just stealing via the excessive ticket prices, they have stolen the fans joy. Shame on them.

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Ed you say that hazard is not comin i also believe dere is a massive chance he wont but u cant 100% say that its true!

because its football anythin can happen, look at FAB how lon the media said he will be sold etc it never happnd for 2-3 years...

so same with the players dat mite be headin our way, i will only believe it when the head of board or arsene rules it out themself like they did on mata!!

arsene was like we dnt want mata and u wont see him in an arsenal shirt but the rumours continued sayin we wanted him!

{Ed002's Note - You would probably just do better not to bother with this site then. You will never agree with anything.}

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27 Oct 2011 14:18:35
ed how much is doumbia {Ed002's Note - CSKA will ask perhaps £25M.}

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Ed Is He Worth That? {Ed002's Note - I really can't say. It very much depends who moves for him and when.}

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ED - I am shocked with you crazy price expectation. CSKA will sell for £13.5m to Spurs and not Arsenal. There is noise Pavlyuchenko might be used within this deal.

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27 Oct 2011 14:18:52
apparently inter want ramsey and they are prepared to offer £15 mil (17.5euros) for him and give us ricky alvarez
dont know how reliable it is
89'gooner

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Naaaaaaaaaaa dont want alvarez it's from caught offside so...

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Alvarez Hasnt Been Impressive If They Dont Want Him Sell Him To Us For 5mil

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INTER DO NOT WANT RAMSEY

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27 Oct 2011 14:01:35
Ed002's Note - Eden Hazard will not be moving to Liverpool, or Arsenal for that matter. Real Madrid or Barcelona is his preferred destination. PSG, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan are all interested to one degree or another. I said over the summer that I would not be surprised to see Manchester United through their hat in to the ring with Hazard as well. Previous interest from Juventus has been on the wane. Dos Santos comes with a lot of baggage and I don't know of any interest in him from Liverpool, but he is available with Sevilla having been in negotiations.}

no more hazard for us unless usmanov comes in

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27 Oct 2011 13:27:19
Ssn rvp talks have began

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Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Well I hope he says to the club that they must make some signings and sales in January otherwise he will be off in the summer. The club needs to be told. My fear is of course that if Fabregas and Nasri couldn't persuade the club to sort their act out then nobody ever will. I do not think he should sign ANYTHING until after January.
Raz

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Yeah mate we are doing well but Chelsea this weekend will be a real eye-opener. We have to be able to square up to them, Man U and City and be in with a genuine chance of winning, and right now I am not sure we are close to that yet. If we are still at the stage where we are relying solely on other teams to beat th teams above us then that for me s a sign we need additions. I hope he is firm with them.
Raz

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27 Oct 2011 13:16:35
Ed even though he is on loan to valencia for 2 years is there any chance we could buy Canales in Jan if his contract gets terminated or something? Just wondering because with been linked with him. {Ed002's Note - For me I would have to say no chance whatsoever. There has been no link to him and he is badly injured and probably out for the season. Why on earth would Arsenal take such a risk?}

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