Arsenal Rumours Archive August 29 2017

 

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29 Aug 2017 22:02:48
Pep offfered £50m for Sanchez.

He's not happy. We will 100% lose him for free at end of season.

Let him go and invest the money.

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29 Aug 2017 22:16:27
Agree dags. But we can get more I feel. I hope we have replacement talks on the go now.

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29 Aug 2017 22:16:41
More money in the bank Dags. We are lucky.

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29 Aug 2017 22:33:57
It's a discusting offer. Neymar isn't 4 times better than Sanchez.

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29 Aug 2017 22:35:36
Mate it's exactly the same figure and destination that was on offer in July and probably exactly what will happen, why ever didn't we simply do the deal early rather than all the false bragging of Sanchez is going no where when we all knew he was and City was probably the where.
Poor old Arsene " if there is a wrong way to do it, a wrong way to say it, nobody does it like Arsene " .
All joking aside it's really quite sad to watch him keep making the same old mistakes so many times over, he really should have gone in 2014 after beating Hull.

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29 Aug 2017 22:16:41
More money in the bank Dags. We are lucky.

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29 Aug 2017 22:33:57
It's a discusting offer. Neymar isn't 4 times better than Sanchez.

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29 Aug 2017 22:35:36
Mate it's exactly the same figure and destination that was on offer in July and probably exactly what will happen, why ever didn't we simply do the deal early rather than all the false bragging of Sanchez is going no where when we all knew he was and City was probably the where.
Poor old Arsene " if there is a wrong way to do it, a wrong way to say it, nobody does it like Arsene " .
All joking aside it's really quite sad to watch him keep making the same old mistakes so many times over, he really should have gone in 2014 after beating Hull.

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29 Aug 2017 23:22:17
Invest in what Dags

Who the hell will want to come to Arsenal.

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29 Aug 2017 23:59:09
Bambam,
Mahrez, Nzonzi and Van Dijk.

3 players who will massively improve us.

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30 Aug 2017 09:12:29
Neymar is a better player, neymar wasn't in the last year of his contract, neymar didn't look like he had downed sticks for about 4 months, you're lucky to be getting 50 million if I'm honest.

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30 Aug 2017 14:24:01
Neymar also isn't 29 years old and approaching the downturn of his career.

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30 Aug 2017 14:43:41
And when are they likely to sign Dags . we won't afford all their wages

It's the same year after year in the transfer window lol.

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29 Aug 2017 21:56:05
News emanating from the club say that a lot of the players want the manager gone but none can actually admit it because of the backlash that they would receive so the manager carries on like everything is fine.

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29 Aug 2017 22:41:44
I think it's more because they like him as a person rather than being afraid of a backlash, I don't think anyone has the heart to look him in the eye and say it rather than not have the nerve, he's a nice man even if no longer a great manager.
You've only got to look at him away from press conference's and match day atmosphere to see that he is very popular as a person with almost everyone.

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29 Aug 2017 22:41:44
I think it's more because they like him as a person rather than being afraid of a backlash, I don't think anyone has the heart to look him in the eye and say it rather than not have the nerve, he's a nice man even if no longer a great manager.
You've only got to look at him away from press conference's and match day atmosphere to see that he is very popular as a person with almost everyone.

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29 Aug 2017 23:01:28
Theres that 62, coupled with the fact he's brought so many of them in from a young age, secured them big contracts, deflected and taken criticism for them that they actually know no different and don't really want to have to prove themselves to anyone else. Could you imagine where Aaron Ramsey would be after a month with a Klopp, Mourinho or Simione?

. yet Vieira is not offered a role within the club and instead goes to City, Henry is asked to choose between the under 23s and his sky gig. Wenger doesn't like grown men challenging him. So goodbye to you also Mustafi.

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30 Aug 2017 01:23:37
Shambo,

I've not got much to say about almost all of your post except the Henry part. I remember when I got my very first REAL job, it was at a bank. I interviewed for this job while I was working at a club. The bank did specify that I couldn't work at the club any longer.

You and I don't know what kind of conflict of interested the club may have been trying to avoid, but it is not unusual for a company to ask you not to work in similar industries or in places that could reflect badly on people's sense of professionalism - like in my case with the bank and club.

At the end of the day, none of us really know what is happening at the club. We pick up sound bites and extrapolate our own scenarios from there. We do all this while levelling accusations at a man that are probably entirely false.

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30 Aug 2017 01:48:08
News a lot of players backing wenger and want sanchez gone.

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30 Aug 2017 09:17:32
The world cup in Brazil Wenger is hanging out with a lot of ex footballers playing beach volley ball etc, I think the man is genuinely liked away from the cameras.
He has become far to close to his team and this has brought huge problems and inadvertently formed the cosy club.

The way I see it Arsene is like a popular school teacher who's lessons they look forward to simply because they are a laugh, but unfortunately they are no longer conducive to getting straight A results.

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29 Aug 2017 15:26:12
i heard a rumour that Southampton may be interested in having walcott back, you think there's a chance of a cash plus player swap deal or am i just dreaming as always?

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29 Aug 2017 17:01:10
Yes van dijk and 30 million.

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29 Aug 2017 19:52:42
This would be a great bit if business, Walcott is a terrible influence to young players at the club. He demondstrauts you can be poor, injury prone, bring nothing of great quality to the team and still earn unreal money. The sad thing is, Van Dijk is just one of a few class signings we need. Were miles away from the quality needed to not only challenge for the title but also attract other class players. Like realistically who can Arsenal attract currently? The board hasn't changed, the manager hasn't changed and clearly if anything, the ambition has decreased.

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29 Aug 2017 21:30:07
I don't think you can ever blame a player for his injuries.

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29 Aug 2017 15:21:02
I think the best bit of business arsenal can do before the deadline is tell wenger he needs to step down for his own sanity and respect.
The only reason players are leaving is because of him.
The papers report that the senior players have questioned wengers tactics. If true i applaud these brave players for speaking up. This isn't about disrespecting wenger its about someone telling him he is in cloud cuckoo land with some of his bizarre decisions.

It shows that there is a passion in the players but the team structure and tactics coming from wenger is ruining this club.
At first i felt sorry for wenger now i am embarrassed for him. We have ex players and managers coming out of the woodwork saying - you won't know what you had till his gone - that is pure BS.

If he goes we will have fresh ideas and new start with optimism but if he stays we will have the same old excuses and drivel which will drive away fans and players. the odd occasional victory papering over the ever widening cracks and saying we were mentally strong and showed character has been over used.

For the good of arsenal football club he and his backroom staff must go. We can vent our frustation to the board as well but its wenger that picks the team.

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29 Aug 2017 18:08:33
I don't disagree with any of what you say but Arsene only has his new contract with thr fans acceptance, if there had been enough support for change last season none of this would be happening.
It's going to take time to sort out but one way or another this has to be the last season for Arsene as Arsenal manager, it's far to late for this season so there is absolutely no reason to panic and do anything right at this moment in time.
What needs to be different this time is the support for change needs to be and remain solid first and foremost from the fans themselves, people need to decide what they want once and for all and stick to it rather than keep reacting on a result to result basis.

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29 Aug 2017 18:34:18
Yet again g62. Give it a rest man.

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29 Aug 2017 18:56:11
There was enough support last season. But wenger runs the club and has the last decision. If it was upto the fans he would have been out a couple of seasons ago.
Its never too late to change. This season under wenger will be mediocre unless we have a miracle and top players stay and new quality players want to come but i can't see that happening. A change is best for him and the players more importantly the club.

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29 Aug 2017 22:47:05
TG remind me are you Arsene in or out this week :-)
I don't mind really mate, your entitled to your opinion even if it's about me :-)

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29 Aug 2017 14:01:54
I am told there is no interest in Ozil from Dortmund.

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29 Aug 2017 14:50:51
Ozil to sign for Dortmund than 😁.

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29 Aug 2017 15:02:45
Great there's some hope then.

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29 Aug 2017 09:13:12
Any truth in Man City offering cash plus sterling in an effort to convince arsenal to sell Sanchez? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that Manchester City will make a proposal today - ideally they would like to include a player in the deal and Sterling would be top of that list. Else they will offer straighht cash. They want an early resolution as they have a Plan B that they will revert to.}

29 Aug 2017 09:29:05
Id take that deal i lile sterling.

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29 Aug 2017 09:30:24
Ed002 offer me some hope are MU looking to make a proposal if not can you pitch the idea that we will throw Smalling in.

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29 Aug 2017 09:44:03
Thanks ed002 for all your work . hoping aguero is second on that list .

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29 Aug 2017 10:03:10
Good shout ed. You called it, again.

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{Ed002's Note - You can expect Arsenal to make a serious push for Draxler now - as discussions were held with another side yesterday.}

29 Aug 2017 10:11:51
Let's bring the Raheem dream to the Arsenal!

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29 Aug 2017 10:12:22
Sanchez out - Draxler and Sterling in? Sounds great to me.

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{Ed002's Note - Just to answer Dave above "Ed002 offer me some hope are MU looking to make a proposal if not can you pitch the idea that we will throw Smalling in."

Whilst I still expect Sanchez to go, and I expect it to be dealt with by Wednesday evening regardless of whether or not another player (Sterling or someone else) is included. Manchester City want this done and they have a Plan B if it doesn't happen which they will certainly start working on today. It is not out of the question that Manchester United or another side could step in with an offer - but right now there appears to be little chance of that. MU made a mess of the Perisic deal which could have been completed at the start of the window.}

29 Aug 2017 10:32:47
Losing sanchez and getting sterling and draxler is poor not good.
Sterling hit and miss and draxler unproven in prem.
And they ain't the sort of players you need. You needed a matic a van dijk. Strong leaders.

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29 Aug 2017 10:22:01
Thanks Ed. Should be an exciting few days.

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29 Aug 2017 10:35:19
Any chance of PSG stepping in with similar offers ed considering we have serious interest in draxler or have thei attentions be moved elsewhere. Sorry in advance if this has been done to death it just looks in the posts above that with the window soon to close things have started to move.

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{Ed002's Note - PSGs interest was related to Mbappe who they expect to have addressed later today or perhaps tomorrow - so they should be removed form possible buyers.}

29 Aug 2017 10:39:39
Cheers ed appreciate the reply.

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29 Aug 2017 10:40:42
Another thing would be absolutely gutted if Raheem sterling came to Arsenal. Another in the vein of ox, Walcott and weak sulky attitude last sort of player we want in the club.

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29 Aug 2017 10:42:44
You are going to send United fans into meltdown with that little snippet of hope.

Personally I think Sanchez would be a fantastic addition for United. They made a mess of Perisic, I'm sure Jose is looking for alternatives. I'd be very surprised if Sanchez is one.

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29 Aug 2017 10:43:41
Sterling is worse than Walcott, desperation setting in.

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29 Aug 2017 10:58:08
If we are seriously considering yielding to city then it has to be a cash lump for me and look elsewhere sterling is worse than some of the players where trying to offload . The only city player I'd be interested in would be augero and there's no chance of that.

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29 Aug 2017 11:10:11
There's a chance of getting Sane in the deal, Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean. You make a stement and put a question mark after.}

29 Aug 2017 12:01:43
I know this is probably an impossible question to answer so apologies if it is but Would Draxler be prepared to join us?

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{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

29 Aug 2017 12:19:14
Sorry for my grammar, not my native lenguage.
Is there any chance that city could involve Sane in the deal?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

29 Aug 2017 12:25:30
Fair comment Ed, thanks for answering.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome - I don't see why not.}

29 Aug 2017 12:31:23
Gunner can he play center back or holding mid.

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29 Aug 2017 12:48:43
Thanks Ed.

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29 Aug 2017 12:53:30
Any chance Arsenal pushing for Aquero in the deal instead of Stirling? I personally wouldn't be happy taking Stirling. Sanchez is a game changer. He can win a game single handedly. We're in need of players with this quality.

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{Ed002's Note - They could ask of course.}

29 Aug 2017 14:09:19
Steve, at least sterling can dribble.

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29 Aug 2017 15:24:28
ed002 i really respect you, your information is first class, i just want to say thank you for always helping.

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29 Aug 2017 19:43:43
Sterling to Arsenal is the nail in the coffin. It's worse than a bad joke. Walcott scored 20 goals last season, he's got more threat than sterling. This news would send me over the edge, and to be honest I'm not far off it, its a shambles and the hold top of the club is rotten.

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29 Aug 2017 02:56:19
Ed, is there any possibility of someone buying the club from Stan Kroenke in the near future?

I'm depressed.

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{Ed001's Note - highly unlikely he would sell.}

29 Aug 2017 08:43:46
Why people blame Kroenke is beyond me, as he has rightly supported Wenger. As far as I know he has always backed Wenger financially. With hindsight and if the right manger ad been available then Wenger should have departed after the FA Cup win, going out in a blaze of glory. I would have liked the new Watford manger Marco Silva to have taken over, as he appears to be an intelligent and very capable manager.

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29 Aug 2017 09:52:11
Have you seen how successful any of Kroenke's teams are? They're not, they're cash cows floating around mediocrity. Both he and Wenger need to go before we see any leap forward and as it stands we've got at least another two years of this nonsense.

No ambition, weak leadership and woefully inadequate business acumen. We used to have all three in abundance. Where we find ourselves is no coincidence.

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29 Aug 2017 10:45:03
They are both the problem.

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29 Aug 2017 11:10:44
Kroenke approaches his clubs with a hands-off attitude, content to delegate to everyone else even when he needs to step in. Arsenal have systemic issues - the way we approach transfers is one, the way we approach contracts is another, and the way we approach upper management is clearly another - and they lie partly at Kroenke's fault for failing to make the necessary changes. Wenger, for all his virtues, is blind to how to address his failures, and this is where the owner becomes important.

I have been accused on here of talking bollocks when making this point, so keep in mind this is all my opinion.

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29 Aug 2017 11:17:02
Anyone who thinks Kroenke is not at least a big part of the problem, answer me this:

1) When was the last time you saw him at any game? (excluding FA Cup Final) , and

2) When did he last come out and say anything about the team and the direction we're going?

He doesn't care, we are part of the Kroenke Sporting Portfolio.

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29 Aug 2017 12:12:03
If Kronke is wrong to have backed Arsene 100% without question then he isn't alone, he has a good 50%+ Arsenal fans for company.

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