Arsenal Rumours Archive August 03 2011

03 Aug 2011 23:52:24
What do people think of playing Thomas Vermaelen in the CDM role? - He's quick, calm, agressive, has a good pass and my god has he got a shot on him. A defence of Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Cahill/Jags, Traore/Gibbs with a defensive mid of Vermaelen and Frimpong with Wilshere, Fabregas, Mata sitting in front with van Persie upfront seems realistic and mouth-watering at the same time. I know people will say don't move TV5, but i think he'd be simply awesome as the midfield anchor. To use The Night Docotr's phrase: thoughts on a postcard...

Ben

Kos would be better

At this point I would be willing to try either I still think that TV5 is the only true CB we have, who can also cover the left and who is vocal. Without him in defence we really suffered last season.

Kos also has hardly had a chance to settle into a partnership at the back - if we are to move one of these two out to the anchor; sure as hell need to sign a DECENT hit-the-ground-running CB first, otherwise we are just sitting ducks for the first 3 months of the league

Second reply on here is spot on--we didn't look shaky at all with Kos in defence but we can't gamble on Djourou again after his dislocation. Squillaci is just poor with any of our other defenders. It's pretty much a given that we need to sign a top CB if we want any cover at all.

Thanks :) CommonSensei by name an dby nature I hope

Yeah I am tired of saying: Our season faltered because of our defence, not just last season but the last 3 or 4

I'm so tired of seeing stupid mixups that only happen because we haven't got a 'usual suspects' partnership at the back...

With any luck this season - TV and Kos can partner up in the middle, Sagna can do another performance job and our **prays** new LB who is also good in CB can fit right in and perhaps teach the others what a decent cross looks like.

forget Fab and even if Nasri goes, I have faith in Le Prof and in Arsenal FC .... We will be stronger again this season as we always are.

Up the gooners

What happend to song???

Song is a great player but lacks the pace to be an effective anchor; imagine him doing the Flamini role .... he would be knackered by half time

Lol I think he is actually better centre field and not used as a CDM just because he is the nearest we have.

Watch YouTube of him playing for his country he's awesome just slowww

I've been saying this to my arsenal pals for ages. Petit was a centre back when we bought him and he became one of the best midfielders in the world. Tommy in the middle would transform this team remarkably. Although we will need a decent CB to replace him. In the middle and make him or Jack captain. Jack may be young but he's not afraid to speak when he needs to. Unlike cesc who is a bad captain.

{Ed022's Note - IMO I disagree. Jack Wilshere is 19 and in my eyes he will no doubt be a long term Arsenal captain for many years to come. Just not yet! I think it would be wrong to burden him with the captaincy and feel he can bark instructions and play like a captain for a few more years without actually having the armband. My ideal candidate is Thomas Vermaelen. He should lead the team for the next few years and eventually it'll move over to Jack Wilshere.}

I like your thinking
But I think Wenger loves Song to be there, which I think he goes forward a little to much for me and thats how we get cought out somtimes as he gives away to many silly freekicks.

Ed, u do a good job on here and obviously u have the right to agree or disagree with anyone's opinion, as u did mine about making Jack captain. U made a fair point but how old was Big Tone when he became captain? Surely not much older than Jack, he has some of the same traits as Tony Adams, he gets stuck in where he has to and isn't afraid to berate a fellow team mate if it is warranted. What we've missed since we lost Bug Tone is someone to fire the team up when things aren't going to plan. Do u think we'd have conceded 4 goals to Newcastle if Adams was there? He would've gone mental after the second one went in. We don't have a true leader on the pitch who can gee the team up when they need it. Cesc led by example in terms of his ability but he doesn't inspire players to give every ounce of energy for the cause. Tommy missed last season so we don't really know how vocal he will be and what qualities he has. Arsene does have a habit of giving the arm band to a player who is unhappy or may want to leave I.e. gallas and Cesc. He needs to look at past captains or the best captains around to see what qualities they have and give the arm band to that type of player if they want it. The best captains in the last twenty years have been Tony Adams, Roy Keane and John Terry. All very similar, all would die for the cause. This is what we lack at present. Hopefully Tommy can be that player. Just a thought.

{Ed022's Note - You are right in saying Big Tony Adams was given the captaincy young. I believe he was 21. (Two years older than Wilshere is now.) My point wasn't that Wilshere won't go on to become captain and be a very good leader (which I said he will) My point was the here and now and let us not forget he has had one full season at Arsenal and a loan to Bolton where he played a dozen or so games. I think for the next couple of seasons let Jack be Jack. Let him play his game without distraction or pressure (he's under enough pressure from the media being English!) I would have Tommy V as captain. RVP as vice captain and tell Wilshere he will be groomed to become the future long-term captain...}

Calm and Aggresive?
Thats a bit like being Tall but short, you cant be both :L

03 Aug 2011 23:36:45
According to the latest internet reports; JAGIELKA TO ARSENAL WITHIN 2 WEEKS is practically certain now, Everton rumour boards are covered with it - with either Carlos Vela or Bentner going the other direction on loan. He will cost between £15-20M on 4 year deal.

KARIM BENZEMA though quoted as saying nobody has made any contact; has been in negotiations with Arsenal for a few weeks and my hunch is that soon as Barca stump up the £40M it will cost to end Fabregas great suffering (lol); a deal will be concluded.

JUAN MATA though reports suggest is a 'done deal' is in negotiations with several other clubs as well as our own, so I would have thought that this is the least likely deal to be done.


CommonSensei

I'm hearing Jagielka might not even want to join, can i ask where your sources are from or is this just opinion?
South Gooner

Hello SG

Sources are all on internet - Everton rumours/message boards, Valencia website/message boards (google translated lol barely readable).

I also heard he doesn't want to join but I don't believe it for a second = The two reports I read are from the same source, and disagree with each other so it looks to be untrue

This is a really optimistic rumour CommonSensei but I hope it does come good. To be honest I'd love us to sell Nasri to Inter to stop them going for Mata then grab him ourselves. Keeping Cesc would be optimal as long as he actually wants to play for us, but that seems unlikely. Unfortunately. Getting sick of his whinging and he's already sick of us

I would have loved Fab to stay with us and captain the side - but we all knew from the off that he was always going to go back. Fair play to the lad stayed here 8 years and didn't complain about our lack of trophies.

Only reason I bothered repeating this rumour, is that I have been saying the whole off-season that we need a LB/CB player to replace Clichy, somebody to replace Nasri when he replaces Fab; and a striker

So now we can safely assume Fab is off, and Nasri is staying on to replace him (which I think we can safely assume); I am quietly confident that Le Prof will indeed buy us .... A good LB/CB and a good striker.

Here is hoping, either that or we risk it all on the kids

Interesting post Common Sensei, and I hope all of it comes true Jagielka would be great, and of course Benzema would just be incredible. I really hope Mata ends up with us, though, we can't afford to lose him to another club, supporter morale would hit an all time low.

Yeah well lets all stay focused on the club and not so much on the back pages; times are rough but Le Prof is on the case.

Most fans seem dissolusioned but I think we have done well, both in footballing and economic terms. People crave success only because it is what they have grown used to ... But times have changed and The Arsenal changes with them.

Arsenal to remain the same as ever lol

I just cant believe were a week away from the new season and nothing has been sorted. were still in the same predicament we were in last season. shockin from wenger and the board

Raz - it is not the translation engine that ruins the convertion, it is the dictionary that engine uses.

Spanish is a complex language and has variants such as Basque / Catalan etc.

So because there are too many localisations for the engine to hack, and not enough human workers retranslating newer dictionaries ...

The result is the entire language translates only in Male gender, whereas some words and phrases are only right when feminised.

So ok yeah - I get what you are saying but really I want to talk less about Spanish dictionaries and more about Spanish players :)

03 Aug 2011 23:15:08
apparently spurs going in for samba and liverpool going in for cahill now?-daiy mail. papers just out to wind us up?

03 Aug 2011 22:29:07
Hi Ed, What happend on Arsenal's interest on Mario Gotze?

{Ed022's Note - Its cooled quicker than a penguin in a fridge...}

03 Aug 2011 22:15:01
my predition for the season
arsenal will start well come january we are in for the title but have a key player injured arsenal need to sign a player but wenger does not then we will have a game with bad luck and sloppy defending and we will collapse and finish 4th like every season

03 Aug 2011 22:06:33
Personally i think the mata deal is well and truly off, if something major happens, cesc and nasri leaving, we might go back in for him. Hopefully a Cb or two is the main priority.

03 Aug 2011 20:56:56
Valencia manager unai emery has said he now believes mata will stay, according to talksport.

Fozzybear

03 Aug 2011 20:28:21
If wenger fails to sign the reinforcements we so obviously need and we have a poor start to the season then I reckon he could be gone by christmas. Sad but true.

Sad but not true.Arsenal will never sack the most success manager in the clubs history.They may not renew his contract when it expires but they will never sack him.
Jim bean

03 Aug 2011 20:14:00
I am watching our next opponents Benfica away to Trazonspor and they look as though they will be tough opposition for us with some good old pros like Aimar and Saviola. They are 0 - 1 up at the moment after 30 minutes.

I wrote to soon 1-1 now but Benfica just missed a sitter.

The funny this is we have a pre season friendly against them but they could very likely be our champions league qualifying opponent as well.

No they cant, they are seeded, get your facts right like us, if you want to see our possible opposition check main web site

{Ed022's Note - I would like to add that although I don't think its possible to meet them in the qualifying rounds they will definitely be up for grabs if both of us reach the group stages (which is very likely) in which case you are both right in your own special way...}

03 Aug 2011 19:47:18
What is it with Harry the Twitch, I know his dad was a Gooner and season ticket holder but it's becoming ridiculous. Sloppy seconds is obviously 'how he rolls'.
Hearing that he is now offered deal for Samba (ss news), earlier it was Adebayor and Diarra, last week Mata. Honestly Harry, get your own scouts and stop sniffing after our targets or ex's you sad git You already stuck your beak into the Mata deal last week only for him to turn you down, is that not enough Harry? You are not Arsenal mate and never will be.
Anyway, how much for Defoe? LOL

He's not got a clue about who or what he needs, he always uses a scatter gun approach to transfers, makes comments on other clubs players then when pressed he just says"don't know where that ones going as daniel levy is dealing with it" priceless

03 Aug 2011 18:31:53
F**k Me The Max Arsenal Ticket Is Bloody £100

Yep- getting more and more expensive.

In fact on the radio the other day they were saying that arsenal is the most expensive ground to watch football in the *world* - can you believe it...? wow.
London Gooner

We've got to make the money back from all these big money signings somehow... Ohh wait...

I have never, and will never, pay £100 for a ticket. A normal ticket will vary between £35 and £53 depending on location. Buy one of those instead.

03 Aug 2011 18:25:39
hI all apologies for daft question but I've never done a fantasy footy league before - just signed up to the daily mail ff league. Anyone in a league I can join?

Also I have a team pin, should I put it on here? Or do I have to create a new league? if so shall we all get involved with Arsenal Rumours League or something? Would be a cool thing to do.

if someone could explain the basics about joining that would be appreciated, thanks all.

Raz {

Someone should create a league for the Arsenal Rumours site on the Official Premier League web page.. I would definitely join. {Ed007's Note - I will leave a note for Ed022, he is running one for us all editors on it so knows what he is doing. Just to be on the safe side if you post in a fresh thread about it to him it will get left for him to get back to you about it, I hope that helps.}

I did.... I put a post up yesterday and have 20 of us on it

03 Aug 2011 17:41:10
can someone please let me know what the adult ticket price is for a match at the emirates? (excluding membership cost)

the more information given will be greatly appreciated :D

You've managed to go online to post your question. Maybe you can utilise the same skills to find out for yourself. For you, the t-shirt that reads 'Just F@#*in' Google It' couldn't be more appropriate.

You can get a cheap seat for usually around 40 pounds ranging as far as 100 pounds. This doesn't include club level which is a lot more. Kids if they are Junior Gunners can get cheap tickets, i remember paying around 15 pounds for category 2 matches. Obviously you need to be a member to get tickets unless they go on general sale.

04 Aug 2011 04:08:22
Here M8 This Will Help A Lot
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14366574.stm

Normal tickets vary between £35 and £53 depending on location. Check www.arsenal.com

If you are not a member, the only games that go on general sale are the Carling Cup ties. Tickets for these have been cheap compared to other matches in the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if these are now priced at usual tariff as we need to win something and hence are not likely to play the youngsters as we have for the last 6 years. The top opposition and Spurs games are priced as Category 1 all others as Cat 2.

Depends on what category game it is. Anywhere from £35-£100

You may aswell say, "ive never been to see my club in my life and have, on a whim, decided to support Arsenal" if you dont know this nugget of info then maybe you also dont realise that arsenal have a website. Alos the person who posted the bbc link on how much a ticket is at Arsenal should look at themselves and think, "i know nothing about attending my ground so i only know how much a pie costs thanks to the bbc"

Go support Chelsea m8

03 Aug 2011 16:54:08
Christopher Samba
Juan Mata
Joey Barton
Joel Campbell
all in before end of transfer market

03 Aug 2011 16:32:26
Just thought I'd send in a positive spin on things:

We haven't signed Matt Jarvis
We haven't signed Hugo Rodallega
We haven't signed Kevin Doyle

3 players we were linked with who thank the holy man himself have not been brought to our club

Raz

You joke but its players like this that could make us a better team. its not stars we need its effect premiership players and like it or not these are effective premiership players to be able to shine in a team like wolves is not easily done. also its players like this who actually care for the club and not jump ship on the next big pay day.

Kevin Doyle is a quality player, better than Chamakh and Vela in my opinion.... But not worth the 15m that was being talked about...

Raz not to put you down or anything but im actually working in wolves atm and every wolves fan i know up here have said they expect at least one of doyle or jarvis to be playing in london next season. not claiming 'sources' just what quite a few people have told me.

I really hope not Each to their own opinions all. To an extent, point taken about being able to shine at Wolves or Wigan but let me put it another way - Wolves played some very nice very attacking football, however not much came of this and Kevin Doyle missed sitter after sitter after sitter, or nearly got on the end of crosses. Wolves had no trouble putting pressure on any team at all - their problem was they didn't have any strikers who put away chances often enough, so I don't really buy the whole 'shining in a rubbish team' thing, because going forward they were awesome. For me Demba Ba is an example of someone who shines in a rubbish team.

Exactly the same can be said of Wigan, who again played some great football last season and Rodallega, like Doyle, missed chance after chance after chance, game in game out, and for me if we're going to move Bendtner on which a lot of fans have wanted for while, I simply cannot see the point in replacing him with strikers who have a proven record of not converting chances. Both those teams are terrible at defending, but going forward they are fantastic, but those strikers, for me anyway, are all promise and no result. I'd choose Bendtner over Doyle and Rodallega any day... I;d choose Rod over Vela right now but in a season's time I doubt I'll be saying that.

Raz

03 Aug 2011 15:48:53
I believe we NEED to snap up Joey barton asap.
Yeah he may be a thug but a ta, ented one at that
His on pitch desire is exactly what we need.
Imagine him and Jack in the middle up at Stoke on a cold Sunday, tough tackling and creative.
Something we have missed since Vieira/Petit or Vieira/Gilberto

Moving on, we need to sort the Fabregas saga soon and if Sammy doesn't want to be there then let him go too.
It wont be as bad as many think, we have ot won anything for 6 seasons with Fab etc so a change might be a good thing as long as we re-invest wisely

Gooner 11 for life

Very sad thath Arsenal fans are so desperate that a whole lot of people would be welcoming Joey Barton.

And the rumour you are posting is...

Get rid of fabergas and nasri and get mata and hazard complete new life into the team a breathe of fresh air get them both on long term contracts. yeah would cost a bit more but would completely set us up for the future midfield wise and with jack and ramsey coming through would be a defient force. could you image 442 with a midfield of ramsey jack mata and hazard. also on long term contracts we would have all this nasri crap. lets be honest though as much as we dream would never happenm the same as wenger would never bite the bullet and buy cahill or a keep ( although i do rate Szczesny)
ahh well heres to dreaming

It's the re-investing that you can't count on. £40m for Cesc, Aw will be rubbing his hands thinking about how many talented 16yo's he can buy with that.

I for one agree with getting barton.he is a class act one of the best EPLmidfielders last season in a poor team albeit took 4 pts off us.he has the steel we have craved since we lost vieria.wenger knows deep down we need that steel back, thats why he bought baptista all them years back.ok he played him up front instead and things didnt pan out but you cant let that stop u from spending again.i would be more upset if wenger didnt spend big on players we need than not spending at all

03 Aug 2011 15:02:50
Just thought I tell you we've only won 2 of our last 11 games, if that's not worth the sack on top of a lack of buys I dunno what is

Sorry but its the last 13

Are you nuts Thank god you do not run the club - we would probably be somewhere in the lower divisions if that is how you think

For all AW has done, we need to be honest. His past glories will mean nothing if we dont win our first 3 games. If this happens i will expect all the usual comments .... Hard first 3 games, need time to gel or This is a young squad.
If heaven forbid this happens, i hope AW has the decency to walk away so we can find a manager who will take this club all the way. We are only a few players short of a great team, please AW sign Mata, Cahill and Jags and lets put the champange on ice for winning the EPL in May 2012

Paul B

Paul B,

I take it you are joking a bout the Wenger walking if we lose the first 3 matches?

Would you be happy with the first 3 games lost and then going on to win the league?

It seems a lot of people are jumping the gun in my mind, with most of August left for transfers and a league that hasn't even started yet

Just a thought.

Kermit79

Kermit79 We have 2 champions lg + 3 tough Premier lg games, we cannot wait untill the end of august.

Clearly a overreaction wanting Wenger out after only 3 games, but I can also sympathize with the frustration. After so many years of it being clear what the squad lacks and seeking to fill those gaps with the cheaper option or not at all. We've heard Wenger say year after year that he would be "active" in the transfer market, and often we end up with departing players not adequately replaced and the deadweight in the team not moved on. I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on all the glory he has brought the club through the years, but I would love for him to show some more ambition rather than faith in players that have done little to justify it.

03 Aug 2011 14:49:29
i think we can forget about a new cb now that bartley has signed a new contract.

03 Aug 2011 14:16:09
on talksport:sources that arsenal would undoubtly think of signing joey barton

03 Aug 2011 14:12:07
Confession:

Ok, so I am willing to admit that I fully made up the Sneijder rumour. All I wanted to do was generate a bit of hype and positivity on here because I'm getting fed up of hearing all the pessimistic comments on hear.

Give me as much abuse as you want. I dont care at all. The fact that some of you care so much about what people post on a RUMOUR site is beyond me. Like look at the top of your screen righ now. It reads..ARSENAL RUMOURS.

Apologies if i've offended anyone with my rumours. But seriously, get over yourselves if I have. Arsenal have always conducted their transfer activity in private, and will continue to do so. Not I, nor does anyone who posts on here (including ed's) have any inside information or any sources etc. We're all just writing down our wishlists.

Quit hating the club. You are supposed to be supporters. Support means through thick and thin. If you don't like the way the club is being run, then I suggest you join Gael, Emanuel and Kolo at City.

We have a squad that has challenged in every competition for the past number of years. They are getting older, more experiencd and stronger and I believe that because they will have been together for so long that they will be a major force for years to come. Remember, Arsenal have been incredibly unluck with injuries over the last few seasons in particular.

Give Wenger a chance. He will sign players this window. He will sign the CB that we all covet so much. And he will sign one marquee player. He has said as much himself. Give the man a chance. As things stand we have the same squad as last year plus Gervinho and Jenkinson. Add a couple of players to this and we are sorted.

If Cesc and/or Nasri go..they will be replaced.

This is the last time I will post on this site.

Keep the faith and believe.

Dublin Gooner {Ed007's Note - I beg to differ that us Eds don't have any reliable sources. You have absolutely no idea who any of us are so because you are sitting making things up, doesn't mean we all do. And to come on and post under a different name to justify your own post is very childish IMO. If it is your last post that is completely your prerogative, but you have lost all credibility anyway. As for your golfing days with Liam Brady, that just backs up your Walter Mitty existence.}

Respect you for at least coming out and admitting you made it up. For people who do get proper angry and offensive over post, they do need to relax. Remember what some one may post ( not this one but others) may be true but the circumstances may change. we may have been in for Benzema but he may of said no i dont want to come, ect. Yeah a good post does get you excited and i too love to read them but remember any Tom person or Harry can post on here. just enjoy the good post and ignore the bad. In the end we all have our own opinions on certain posts, as we know the transfers will come out or fold.
dublin gooner, at least you gave us something to read and debate about. why people get so worked up obviously shows there busy at work :)
danny boiii

Alot Of What He Said Was Truth But Don't Go Dublin Gooner We Need You.x

Dublin Gooner your credibility is shot. You give Dublin a bad name. Thanks for wasting mine and everyone else's time with your silly little fantasies. Looking forward to kids like you going back to school. So should you be, your spelling is horrific.

Well said ed007. and dublin gooner after getting so defensive when people challenged your 'sources'. i for one stuck up for you saying give the dude a chance. people do post their wishlists i agree with that but people who do post wishlists DO NOT claim to have sources, so you can tell the difference. have a good day sir cus i can guarentee theres plenty of abuse off people who you have argued with in the past over 'sources' that are gunning for you.

afc171
true gunner for life

On the one side Dublin Gooner, I agree with you that Arsenal has too many so called "fans" that claim to support the club through moaning, booing, and complaining, which can actually cause things to change, but ultimately you and me have no control over the runnings of the club. We have faith in our team just as the owners and the players have faith that we will come and show our support by purchasing tickets/ jerseys etc...
Obviously these are tough times for Gunners fans, but this is when our loyalty and faith matter most Imagine how good it will feel to see our boys finally lift a trophy, we must believe that it can happen this season...
This is not to say that the fans are the only ones at fault. The owners too have an obligation to listen to the fans but ultimately they have an obligation to do what is BEST for the club, and I think we will begin to see the long-term plan that our team has put in place for us... It is easy to get carried away sometimes, since words often cannot describe how it feels to see our team underachieve year after year, but when there is a will, there is a way, and I believe we will see improvement this season and in the future. Blessings to all Gooners from the island of Trinidad and Tobago.

Trini Gooner

In a sense the man is right, no one unless working inside the club have knowledge whats going on at arsenal there is probably only 3 people that know whats going on.
I am a journalist and have previously spoke to numerous editors on here about joining the team so i do know many of your sources, you do a good job but dont pretend to be something your not

Yes it is a rumour site and that is what some people post...something they have heard about from another 'human being' who may have heard from another person, etc perhaps connected with the club.

Not making a wish list or a fantasy like football manager- sure people do that, but state it's a *wish list* and NOT a rumour. You deliberately mislead people by saying you've heard something- it is not cool at all- a lot of people here love arsenal with a passion, many spend a lot of money supporting arsenal and have invested a lot financially and emotionally and care what happens to the club...I find your frivolousness attitude , 'that it doesn't really matter' rather offensive and your ironic statement that arsenal 'always conduct their transfer activity in private' is laughable if it wasn't so insulting, considering the length's of fulfilling your 'fantasy' you have gone to and to the people who do have genuine sources. The genuine fans here, where supporting arsenal is *real* to them, it isn't a joke and I think you have completely misunderstood that.

It is not the fact the rumours are not correct, it's the fact that you intentionally mislead in the believe that it would cause hype and positivity- NO -signing players in *real life* will do that, not just the' idea' that they will sign...because when it turns out not to be true, it's like a kick in the teeth, so has the opposite effect- that demonstrates to me how disconnected you actually are.

I will give you some credit for coming on here and confessing though - perhaps think about what you're doing in the future. It really wasn't cool at all.
London Gooner (the real one)

Thank god what a complete a***holego and do one.

Dont go Dublin. Youve given me and plenty of ppl on here many hours of laughs. This is a rumour site and everything posted on here should be with taken with a pinch of salt, hoping and wishing more than belief these little fantasy deals will happen

03 Aug 2011 13:43:06
i think its fair two say that Juan Mata isnt going to sign i cant see him in an arsenal shirt and plus everyone would rathe.r get a top defender such as gary cahill in

Or both a defender and mata, who will replace fabregas? Think before you post.

Did you watch games against blackburn, sunderland, ... We were toothless in attack. And noone take responsibillity when needed (there was no Cesc, no Nasri). We need AM with balls like Jack. Defence wasn't so bad, exept set pieces. We need tall CB like Cahill and Mata in attack IMO. DrchoGunner

03 Aug 2011 13:07:33
With the imminent arrival of the financial fair play rules, i think it would be pointless to appoint Usmanov as owner. Man City's stint as a ''top 4'' club will come to an end sooner rather than later, due to not being able to spend - their accademy players are awful.

Ben

I'd love to agree with you, but City are already trying to go around the fair play rules. Remember the stadium naming rights "deal" they just did? It means that they will get extra 40 mil each of the next 10 years, and it will be considered "football related income". Obviously it is a scheme to get funds injected into the club without breaking any of the new rules. If there is no action on behalf of UEFA, next year they will tell us that they have decided to name the goalposts and are getting 200 mil for each of them by some other company close to the owners, as is Etihad Airways. Personally I am gutted, I don't have racial or other prejudice, but this is pure orientalist business making brought into a game that used to be a game of honor..

Man s**tty have bent this rule with their new sponsorship deal with Etihad

Great point, Ben.

Ty

Yeah but they may have beat the system with that new Grounds deal..

Its a point, but as others have stated they and other clubs in a similar position will find a way around it- I'm not convinced that uefa will be running it with an iron fist- we're see, if they do, city will not be the only club affected by this.

Personally, I think these 'sugar daddies' are ruining our game and I hope it will be enforced harshly, with huge points reduction if there is no integrity with up holding the fair play rules.

Tell me what youth policy Arsenal have then....yeh thats right they poach everyone elses.....so before you slate someone else's team think about it
(i am not a Man city fan)

Despite the fact they have gotten around the rules they have one of the top youth academy's in the EPL and the world so it's irrelevant.

To "I'm not a man city fan"
I don't remember Wilshere, Cole, Gibbs, Lansbury, Frimpong, Afobe being poached and most of the 1st team who are not from England were purchased in line with FIFA rules and brought through our Youth system.

Uefa will do nothing about it.. how can they.. the ''flagship'' teams of the champs league.. barca real acmilan.. are supported by spanish/italian government..juve are basically the fiat football club, and now that the french side psg are owned by a zillionaire platini will bend backwards to allow them all they can buy...fair play .. no chance.. only way you'll ever have fair play is to cap all of europes players to the same wage.. then they'll play for the clubs and not the bank accounts...

The Night Doctor..

Well said Night Doctor

03 Aug 2011 12:27:20
Am i the only one that see's what arsene is doing this transfer window, he has bought between 5-6 of what are believed to be the best 15 or 16 yr olds in europe because when the new money rules come in next yr buying up young (cheap) talent will become hotter than ever.This is a very smart move, the long term future of this club is fantastic now lets win the cups ps, v persie 4 captian. please post as i wanna see how many real arsenal fans are out out there, click believe if u want wenger to stay this season.

Who are the 5-6 teenagers we have signed? and where from? just wondring

He has been buying kids for 10 years

It has failed

Wenger has clearly stated on the official Arsenal site that he will make one, possibly two signings, so dont expect any more. I believe the definite is a CB & the possible is a midfield player when Fabregas &/or Nasri are sold. The only reasons they wont be sold is if Barcelona dont agree a fee with Arsenal or if Nasri signs an extension. Dont think for one moment that Wenger will willingly let Nasri run down his contract & cost Arsenal £20+ million.

It is all about money now with Arsenal. I think that the club know that we can not compete with either of the Manchester clubs or Chelsea so why spend big? If they continue to invest in youth and then sell the developed player then that will keep the banks and the board happy. Let's be honest there is a waiting list for season tickets so do the club care if 12,000 have not renewed - no they don't. This will be another trophyless season and we have to face facts - we are in decline

Although its not 5 or 6 players, i do see what you mean. It would be smart if he was doing that, but the reason why buys young talent isn't because of the ffp rule coming in, the reason why he buys alot of cheap young players is because he's a cheap b******, a very smart one at that though. He doesnt want to spend 20 mil + on a player, thats why he buys cheap young talent. Although i beleive buying young is great for our future, i think we should do that once our present is sorted out.
Nick

I think we should push 40 million for both and invest in defence

Ok here are the players, winger H ctor Beller n and mid jon toral both barcalona and Swede mid Kristoffer Olsson also defender Carl Jenkinson.they are now looking at real madrids Jose Rodr guez and have a feeling campbell will come in aswell hes the kid from costa rica.

0ut 0f the am0unt 0f young players that wenger BOUGHT IN we only have about 3 or 4 that will get in the starting line up in our team now IM0 his strategy hasnt really worked to well and he ends up just loaning them out and on loan the dont get played or just get released like mark randall, thomas cruise (who played 1 first team game and showesd a lot of potential ) the only 15 year old signing that worked was cesc fabregas and he doesent even want to play for arsenal.

Cobblers. he's been doing the same for years and ends up flogging them all to barnet and ipswich

Mate not every single U18s or Reserve players going to make it. Think logically we have gibbs Wilshire, Shezza, Song Djourou, Ramsey, Traore and at this moment Lansbury all in and around our 1st team I make that EIGHT players Not exactly a fail really is it?

03 Aug 2011 11:45:01
get rid of nasri for £22million and get mata much better player his goal scoring record is really good for a midfielder

03 Aug 2011 11:35:00
Arsenal to sign no one else this transfer window...

Thanks for that.

Fantastic rumour

Lol, I hate to say it but I do kind of agree Please sign someone Mr Wenger

Much as I hate to contemplate it I think you might be right

I believe there will be just one signing: a CB, but not at 17 mil as quoted for Cahill, because Wenger is cheap

03 Aug 2011 11:17:49
Arsenal are now completely out the picture for Jose Enrique...Arsene didnt want him anyway because he believes Gibbs or Traore are good enough.
Ive heard that Arsenal are in for a £29million double Valencia star deal. One obviously being Juan Mata and the second being Hedwiges Maduro. Truthfully i dont see this happening because Arsene is stalling with the deals of Mata and Jagielka.
Arsenal also back in the race to sign Joel Campbell and Joey Barton. I dont think signing Joey Barton on a free would be too bad. It wouldnt be the best of signings but he played quite well last season. If Arsene got him on the right tracks and not make him such a 'bad boy' he would be a decent player. As long as he doesnt make Jak Wilshere the 'bad boy'.
And Lazio will not sell Mauro Zarate for under bugget.

Man City plan a £22million bid for Samir Nasri within the next two days and Man United plan a £20million bid for him.
Stoke are now about to put in a £9million bid for our Danish striker Nicklas Bendter.
And Barcelona to put a bid worth around £35-£37million plus a £5million player add on to lure Fabregas away from the Emirates.

Lastly what does IMO mean? :/

Hopefull Gunner

In my opinion you got all those rumours from the papers.

IMO means in my opinion

Here are some more just in case you get stuck.
LOL - Laugh out loud
GTG- Got to go
FYI - For your information
JK - just kidding

IMO stands for in my opinion. I agree it probably won't happen, but it would be nice to see both arrive.

Joey Barton? Even AW can't change an apple in banana...

That fabregas figure you put was wrong. the deal in the papers says 35 million, of which 5 mill is add ons - so an initial fee of only 30 mill

03 Aug 2011 11:05:41
Hi ed. Great site. Love getting my daily transfer updates on here. Im on holiday here in Milan at the moment. Stories all over the papers is that two English clubs have made bids for Wesley Sneijder. Presume one is the manks. Any idea who the other is? Remember reading something on here yesterday about arsenal being linked but find it way too hard to believe. Any thoughts? Keep up the good work.

{Ed022's Note - I would suspect Man Utd and Man City have bid if any. I wouldn't hold my breath on Arsenal bidding otherwise i'd turn as blue as the Arsenal away shirt.}

Ive also heard from various people that Arsenal have made an enquiry.

{Ed022's Note - Enquiring is one thing. Bidding millions under an asking price is another. Matching an asking price, offering acceptable wages and beating both Manchester clubs to his signing...now that I would love to see. Sadly, for me, it won't happen. Just my thoughts!}

03 Aug 2011 10:12:09
reports from Emirates, arsenal going to sign riqulme for 4 million. he is the direct replacement of Fabregas and also Barton (free) and parker (loan) on friday. either dann or samba after the benfica game. nasri will stay and sign a new contract. No mata, cahill and Strikers. only possible striker is Campbell... watch this

Riquelme is 33 therefore is very unlikely Arsenal will sign him.

Connor

Riquelme is about to retire how could he be Fabregas' replacement?

03 Aug 2011 09:33:12
talksport: arsenal looking at scott dann over the weekend. imo most stressful transfer season ever so far

A friend of mine described it as...

A emotional rollercoaster over a period of a few months...only matched by the emotional torment of a 6 year relationship.

Please, AW, don't go for Dann. Far better options available.

03 Aug 2011 09:14:10
AW is impressed by Real Madrid midfielder Jos Rodr guez Mart nez (scouted), and Lazio forward Mauro Zarate (valued 15m).

03 Aug 2011 08:39:23
I dont like this whole "if" we keep fab thing. Yes a great player but IF we keep him this will all happen again in Jan and then again in the Summer next year but by then we wont have the chance to replace with the likes of Mata and i know we wont buy him but Hazard as they will be either out of our price range or sold to another club. Sell him and replace now

There'll always be other up and coming quality players like hazard but there's only one cecs fabregas and I for one would keep him for ever if possible over any other midfielder out there, he has kept us where we are the last few years without him in the past seasons we might not have seen champions league every year

I want him to go. ...and we will remember him as the only captain that doesn't win anything in arsenal shirt He's class, but we need him every week, not every four weeks.

03 Aug 2011 08:18:01
Reports from inside the Emirates is that Arsene is trying to get some deals wrapped up by friday before they fly to Portugal, Barton's agent is due in London late Wednesday afternoon, also progressive talks with Everton over Jagielka and Birmingham over Dann ongoing,
Cahill looks set to see out his contract at Bolton and will sign on a free transfer next summer after admitting Arsenal is his prefered choice.
Also talks ongoing with Brugges about signing young midfielder Maxime Lestienne for about £5million
And the wrong Hazard brother keeps being mentioned as Eden's younger brother Thorgan who plays for Lens is being seriously thought as being a better prospect
As far as Mata deal goes it all depends on the Fab and Nasri situation but Arsene hopeful it will be wrapped up by transfer deadline day

03 Aug 2011 01:11:12
hi, iv been told that arsenal will look to complete a deal for mata and jagielka by fri i.e. fabregas deadline. fabregas is beilieved to be sold for around 38 mil plus ad ons. nasri's situation will depend on hazards availability, who wenger sees as the perfect and ideal replacement. wenger has good connections with lille and wants to keep it that way, so therefore he will begin talks with them and then only make an offer if they are willing to sell. it is believed they are willing to sell for 30mil euros. arsenal will also look to complete a deal for joel campbell who is now willing to talk to arsenal after the completion of the u20 world cup.
Upcoming Ins:
mata-18mil
jagielka-15mil
possible hazard-20mil

outs:
fabregas-38mil +add ons
bendtner-9mil
eboue-3 or 4mil
almunia-1 or 2 mil
possible nasri-25mil

Is Mata not meant to be Nasris replacement, should he leave?

03 Aug 2011 01:15:36
I say we try and sign the japanese midfielder Keisuke Honda from cska Moscow.

He is a deadly player