Arsenal Rumours Archive April 04 2012

04 Apr 2012 23:30:09
Every team has a player who the manager loves and the fans don't think is good enough!
Jonny Evans
Gareth Barry
Mikel
Jay Spearing
Kranjar
AARON RAMSEY

Haha yeah, our only trouble is we can add a few to that list!

Thats pretty much bulls**t

evans - utd fans love him. check their forums.
barry - same as evans ^^
mikel - no fan or manager loves him
spearing - same as barry and evans
kranjar - not a starter, redknapp does not love him and spurs fans like him actually
ramey - the odd one out

Granted ramsey is not playing well (not beyond awful though) and out of position but he's a long way off that kind of list and if he were he would be about 7/8 down from our squad players

Ramsey needs a loan to, say, Wigan, should they stay up. They play passing (if weak) football and he needs to get his confidence up

Seriously the fella has scored the same Modric and has one less assist get off the kids back, why would anyone want to play for this club with fans like you.
Galway gooner

I would Take Ramsey over Song any day.

Yeah I agree atleast ramsey doesn't give ball away time and time again and isn't the lazy liabillity that song has become.

Ramsey is a good player in the wrong position. He is naturally a CM, but with Wilshire, wenger has been forced to play him in a more attacking position.

If you remember, initially Arteta was the advanced midfielder and was not coping well with such little time on the ball.

Ramsey is not a Rosicky/Wilshire type, with quick feet - but he is doing a decent job of plugging the hole.

Billybob

04 Apr 2012 18:01:53
Screw m'vila. A midfield of: coquelin, song, wilshere
Would be the best in the league surely. We have depth in the DM position (song, coquelin, frimpong (vertonghen) wilshere etc.) And why would wenger spend £17million on one defensive mid, when his six best have been a combined £11.5million(viera, petit, song, flamini, gilberto)!
Harry

Song isn't a natural defensive midfielder he likes to attack to much and leaves the denfence unprotected, as for wilshere we know his qualities are his vision and passing. We need a solid dm since frimpong is injured and inexperienced. We sold Viera for 20million euros so £17m is about the going rate for quality dm. You could argue since we lost viera that are midfield has never been as solid - except for the season flamini really started playing then left for money.

While I kinda understand your point mate, I think your off the mark, Coquelin impressed a lot of people in his stint as a utility player before his injury. But we only saw like 4-5 games from him, for all we know he could come back and be terrible! Frankly for me he needs to go to a club on loan, like our new best pals Bolton, it's ok knowing how to play nice football at the higher end of a table, it's another playing a physical game at the other end, for me frimpong is better than Coquelin, but for me arsenal are missing that enigma kind of player who will divide opinions.

As for your song point, I'll be the first to hold my hands up and say, yeah I have him stick because he's not the defensive midfielder arsenal need.
And I stick by that because he isn't, he's really evolving into a attacking mid role, don't forget Cesc started as a cdm ( in not saying he'll be the new Cesc, so hold your horses people!) and I think he should stay there, let's face it the bloke is a brilliant creator! Now M'villa, for those who haven't seen him DOES have a tendency to pop forward at times, not as often as song but he does, however the difference is, our first choice midfield three right now would be (with all fit) Wilshere, song, Arteta/rosicky/Ramsey (I only put Rambo as wenger seems to like him from the off!)

Now if wilshere and one of the others go forward, song is our final line before defence, then great he's quick, strong and a decent tackler, now say song and one of the others go, then jacks left there, and for me that's ok, he's not the biggest but the boy plays with his heart on his sleeve and really puts a shift in, finally put song and wilshere forward, none of the other three do I trust as a cdm, rosicky just isn't a defensive player, Ramsey makes mistakes too often, and isn't that quick, and Arteta isn't really the type to get stuck in!

Now imagine Wilshere, M'villa and song, unless all three go forward, there's always one capable midfielder holding the line.

Arsenal need to beef up there midfield mate, I'd love gotze or kagawa, but Wilshere will honesty be like a new signing for us and I can see the ox matching if not beating Goetze for ability by the end of next season, if Goetze or Kagawa or Martin or Marin do join then fantastic! But I'd genuinely be happier with M'villa.

Let's face it.

We've signed Podolski, it's the most official unofficial signing ever.

If we don't get Vertongen after he's literally told us to come get him, wenger needs his head looking at

And M'villa who's basically said Arsenal or Madrid, our advantage there is game time, at Madrid he's looking at displacing Xabi, Khedira, diarra and that's just as a cdm/holding mid player.

Couple those with possibly Suarez, and I hear Dzagoev is looking really likely (could anyone back me up/ dispel that last bit? Cheers)

Your really looking at contenders,

Now, I know that post was an epic, and every time I post I seem to wade in with an argument which makes seem a bit of a (insert word here)

But I honestly respect everyone's views, I just get too passionate about my club!

D

Great post D.

I totally agree with you.

Els

Wilshire defensive midfielder? LOOOOOOOl his not made to do that job it's not his game arsenal big players always start playing from the back as its more freedom not because they are defensive midfielders!!

To the "LOOOOOOOOL" guy

If you read the post properly mate, you'll see I never says wilshere was a defensive mid, I simply suggested that if song and the other of our midfield trio were forward, wilshere is capable of holding the line for a bit.

If you're going to slate me, go ahead, just make sure your right first?

D

D - some good points. But I worry a midfield of Wilshire/Song/M'vila - will make our midfield a bit static.

From what I have seen this season, our best in-form midfield trio has been Rosicky/Arteta/Song.

The main reason for this is not defensive solidity, but their ability to pass the ball and to be quick on their feet.

The risk with replacing Arteta for M'vila (and upgrading rosicky to Wilshire), is that far too much of the creative burden will fall on Wilshire. While song does venture forward, he is not fully commited and making runs into the box. Bare in mind Gilberto and Viera used to venture quite far up the pitch too, so did Flamini.

The problem you are highlighting is a fair point, but that has more to do with our gameplan than it does with the players we have.

So for me, I have come to accept that we will always be a possession based attacking team, and there for need a player that can take the burden of creating attacks off of Wilshire.

Christian Eriksen is my Dream signing.

Billybob

Billybob-

Yeah I guess that's a bit of a risk I missed!
Although I reckon Song would step up with the creative if a man like M'villa took care of defensive duties. I hope they'd be reminiscent of petit and viera!

I'd like erikson too mate! He'd be a gamble I admit but a fantastic player if he could adapt to our league

Satin that, my dream signing would be Lucas from Sao Paulo!

But that is definitely a dream!

D

04 Apr 2012 12:29:06
Kagawa reported to be stalling on a new Dortmund deal to get a move to the prem. Just saying, if we can't have Goetze... would love having the next best thing. He and Miyaichi, teaming up on national team and for us, not to mention how skilled he is in CAM (a weak position for us). Would be a superb signing for us I think

90% chance he will stay with dortmund. Great if we could get him tho. Has not only a stack of assists, but can find the net too.

Marty

I have a suspicion the rumour of our representatives being in dortmund a couple of weeks ago might have been for kagawa and not gotze! miyaichi at AFC would be a bonus for him as players from far flung places do enjoy having a compatriot at their club. I hope we get him as Japanese players have a great work ethic and respect for their seniors, its just part of their culture + he is very good!
ricky the sg

He'd be a great signing, no doubt, but I think there's a higher chance of him joining Man. United. He's said in the past something like "Joining MU would be a dream", and he also doesn't seem a Hazard-esque guy who'd whore himself to the highest bidder. I think, given the success he's had early in his career at BVB, MU would be the logical choice. Just my opinion, though.

Pakistan AFC

Great great player who will without a doubt improve our squad but im almost certain he'll remain at dortmund for at least another season

Greg

Have we not got one of the hotest prospects in the CAM position in the country who doesnt get played in his favoured position and still performs amazingly yet everybody thinks we need to spend big money on somebody when the OX being unleashed next season instead of sitting on the bench would be even more money to spend on a striker.

^^^^ Hes 18 For Goodness Sake Let Him Continue Playing On The Wing And When Wenger Believes Hes Ready Hell Move Him. We Cant Expect To Win The League And Even Cl When Our Most Creative Player Is A 19 With Only One Year Of Top Flight football.

The wing is not his preferred position he came to us as a CAM that could play on the wing!

Kagawa would be a dream come true for me. Quick, good passer (reminds me of Rosicky, with his outside of the foot passes), decent finisher.

Sadly, I doubt he will leave BVB, as the fans would riot in Dortmund. He is a fan favourite and has taken a lot of the burden of Gotze's injury.

He is quite frankly the reason they are top of the table.

Hopefully, negotiations crumble and Arsenal can swoop in. Wenger speaks Japanese, surely Fergie cant!!

Billybob.