Arsenal Rumours Archive September 04 2011

 

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04 Sep 2011 13:47:11
Sky sources- wilshire out for at least two more months, he should resume light training in four to six weeks if all goes well.
Terribble news! As if losing two of your best players wasn't bad enough were now without another one for two months, knowing the arsenal medical team he'll prob be out for 4 months!

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WE MISS JACK SO MUCH

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Jack confirmed via Twitter - It'll be 2-3 months.

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Our lack of spending on midfielders to rteplace Fabregas and Nasri has just bitten us on the bum again, but even harder now. We have had it this season and for a few years to come, the amount of time not challenging and out of the top 4 is up to the board or Wenger, they havr to spend big - but we know that aint gonna happen !

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We never used to get so many long term injuries when Colin Lewin was at the club - seems odd now that the recovery time is much greater - Come back Colin!

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Yes we did Co0lin didn't leave that long ago. Hopefully despite a disappointing start to the season Ramsey will step up in Wilshere's absence just like Wilshere did last season in his

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The medical team doesn't cause the injuries, our training methods are wrong. many players are over-trained and therefore gets injured easier

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04 Sep 2011 12:25:42
After last nights results in the African cup of nations it looks more likely that a.song will be going to this tournament along with frimpong(if he gets picked by ghana)and gervinho+chamakh.Three out of the four will cause us a problem.We will then only have diaby available to play as a d/midfielder-if he is not injured.

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Don't panic the club have all this in hand, cant you tell by the recent transfer activity ( sic ) It is a good job Wilshire was not injured prior to the transfer window closing, cos if he was the club would have gone and bought a decent midfield player then. Three top quality midfielders our or gone, do not worry Diaby will be back soon. I want to cry !

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Cameroon are out! Frimpong will hopefully play for England (Fabio should pick him and Jenks in the next friendly) Parkl was signed to provide cover up front, and we have several options on the wings, don't fret.

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04 Sep 2011 12:19:06
this is what iv been told recently about the deadline day for arsenal:
in order to replace nasri and fabregas arsenal's main targets were gotze and mvila, where bids of 35mil and 22mil got rejected. therefore arsenal turned their attention to hazard and marvin martin, a bid of 28mil got accepted for hazard but lille could not follow through with the transfer as they had no time to buy replacements. a bid 12mil for martin was also rejected.
this is where they then decided to go for arteta and benayoun as panic buying. but at first the arteta deal was broken down due to wage demands, but wenger insisted to the board to complete this deal.
any further deals in january will be determined on injuries and performances- i.e. benayoun and rosicky.
Waq

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Read something to that effect in CaughtOffside this morning.

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This is all true. We also had Renato Augusto coming in for a loan medical as well. However Arteta/Benayoun were NOT "Panic Buys".

Arteta was on AW's radar since last season. Benayoun was a backup to Arteta IN CASE we did not get him. - And Arteta's situation at first was also NOT over "wage demands" Moyes tried to say it was... But Arteta taking a 10k pw PAY-CUT blew that out of the water.

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If that is really true then Wenger should have insisted on some of these deals going thru rather than Arteta, he is the one who will get the blame and be remembered for killing our club - not the board who are hidden away.

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That doesn't make sense about the wages - think about it, if Arteta took a wage cut to come to us (which is a disgrace) then you can guarantee that was why it nearly didn't happen, because as usual we wouldn't pay the wages. We offered something less and he eventually accepted. What an insulting way to recruit someone. Sometimes our club makes me sick. Sorry but your theory of taking a pay cut blowing the wage argument out of the water is completely nonsensical.

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They WERE panic buys...last minute and not thought through. Arsenal will suffer this season because no players will go there if they can get better money elsewhere.Arteta took a drop in his wages as its his last go at Champions League football. But he wont play past the last 16 as Arsenal wont make it....honest opinion from a supporter of another team - DARE you to post this eds...

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... They were NOT Panic buys. The only one which was (more a backup not panic) was Benayoun. JY Park and Arteta were AW's picks before he knew he had a shot at 'bigger guns' regardless, as was Santos.

And it actually does make sense. He'd agreed to the pay-cut well before ANYTHING was said about apparently the 'initial deal' falling through which it never did - this was my point.

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I wouldnt say they were panic buys but they were certainly NOT 1st choice. i think benayoun could be the better signing IF he stays injury free. i think he is very similar to alex hleb in terms of skill and distribution but benayoun has proven at previous clubs to also be quite clynical in front of goal.
think we have missed the boat on hazard all together now as more money rich teams will snap him up. cant blame lille for rejecting on the basis of no time to find a replacement as our fault for dithering (again).

paul - rochester

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Cesc left Arsenal 15/8, when did we make an offer for Hazard or Goetze? 28/29 August, what were doing for two weeks?

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04 Sep 2011 12:11:04
All this rubbish about jack being out for 3 months,i have heard he is back in light training.

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I can confirm I will be out for around 2-3 months! I am working hard in the gym to stay fit and I am gutted but I will be back stronger!

straight from his twitter

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Stop lying

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Stop lying? Wilshere CONFIRMED it via Twitter.

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Are you the same guy that saw messi at stanstead?

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Who exactly are you directing that question from? - All you need to do is go to Jack's Twitter & read for yourself? @JackWilshere - It's not rocket science.

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Messi at stanstead? where when? can i ask him if he speaks german?

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Original poster 0==3

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04 Sep 2011 11:41:48
I think Mertersacker will be a complete liability which has cost us 8 million +4 million a year in wages.I have seen him many times since the world cup on espn and he plays like igor stepanovs!We will have to buy another centre half in january which will cost us another 8 million.We could have bought cahill in the first place.

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You really think Mertesacker will somehow make the defence worse?

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He will be a flop like squllcia

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Let him atleast kick a ball for us before saying all this... arsenal blood

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Good point mate we shound of just got cahill , and also why we bidding for hazard on the last day u cart exspect a team to not replace him its totally out of order all this

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Dont make me laugh you know nothing !

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Lets not write of Mertasaker before he is kicked a ball. He he may not be the quickest but you do not win 75 German Caps if your a crap defender. A good defender reads the game and gets in the correct position with the first 5 yards being in your head. I reckon he will bring some leadership and organization to the defence and will be useful in the air aswell. Put it this way Clichy had loads of pace but was he a good defender, not not really. Lets just wait and see, he cannot be worse than Djorou and Squallich anyways.

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OP your post has proven your ignorance and lack of intelligence when it comes to Football - You haven't watched him "since the world cup". You've read lots of absolute crap about him and believed it all.

Per Mertesacker is a beast, he is a calm, progressive reader of the game. A VERY "Adams" esque type player.

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OP stated he's watched him many times since the World Cup. Insulting his intelligence because you failed to read properly is a little absurd. I have to agree with him as well. Yes, you have to be a solid defender to win 75 caps for Germany, but I fear those days are behind him for whatever reason. His play for Bremen the last couple seasons has been pretty poor and they've shipped tons of goals. He's not just been replaced in the German squad because of injuries. Hummels, Howedes and others are simply better.

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Correct opinion unfortunatelly. My father lives in Germany and follows their football and you have hit the nail firmly on the head according to him, but we must give him a chance, but his lack of pace and our lack of a defensive know how will be a massive issue. By the way he also says that the young player that Wenger did not bid on,Goetze is absolutelly awsome and would have been a snip at 35 million if Wenger had bid on him ( sic )

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"You haven't watched him 'since the world cup'" - How is that not reading properly? This is what he specified and I replied to? Maybe you should learn to read properly? lol.

And as I stated he's a calm progressive reader of the game - VERY Tony Adams like - Mr. Adams was less pacey than my Grandma in High-Heels and proved it doesn't matter.

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Oh and your father happens to be wrong because we DID Bid on Goetze as well as a few others (M'Vila, Marvin Martin, Renato Augusto, Hazard to name a few)

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No where in the first post does he say he has not watched him since the World Cup. You seem to be stuck on the words "since the World Cup" and are ignoring those before them. When we had Adams in team we also played with 2 box to box mids that covered a lot better defensively than our current mids. We also did not play with such a high line. Even Adams would have struggled in this current team, and its down to poor defensive strategy as much as the players in the squad.

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No... *I* Said he was talking rubbish about watching him, since the world cup - And he's basing the OP off of the stuff that's doing the rounds about Mertesacker.

I wasn't thinking he said he hasn't watched him... - Crossed wires obviously.

And AW is obviously changing his tactics just like he's changing his policies now (5 Players ALL over 23?) - And no I'm not "AKB" I'm just calling it like I see it.

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04 Sep 2011 10:09:57
According to many papers and other sources from Twitter they believe that Wenger will go back into the market in January to try and seal deals for Eden Hazard and Yann M'vila. If this is true which I am not saying it is because a lot can change between now and January are squad will have so much strength in depth. Wenger would be able to rotate a middle 3 of Arteta, Wilshere, Song and M'vila. If two of them got injured you have Benayoun. Ramsey, Frimpong, Rosicky and Diaby as further cover. Also on the wings you will be able to rotate between Gervinho, Walcott, Hazard and have Arshavin, Ryo, and Oxlade Chamberlain as further cover.
If these transfers did happen then I wouldn't be surprised if Arshavin and maybe Rosicky are sold on.

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So we wouldn't really have that much strength in depth as you say, if we sold Arshavin and Rosicky. IMO we should have sold them both this summer and brought in one player to replace them both, on top of all the signings we made.
Doubt Hazard will come to us now. M'Villa we may get.
Raz

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When I said Rociky Arshavin could leave that was my own opinion and has not been reported

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Doubt M'vila and Hazard would come to us unless we're looking like we'll get into champs league..

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"Doubt M'vila and Hazard would come to us unless we're looking like we'll get into champs league.."

In Jan we'll still be IN the UCL.

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The club will not buy anyone in January. It took the Man Utd humiliation for the club to panic buy who they did. If it had been 2 or 3 goals the club would not have bought anyone. Rocky times ahead !

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04 Sep 2011 09:52:14
mirror reports jack wilshere will be out for 3 months!

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04 Sep 2011 07:29:56
whilshere out for 3 months

we need to sort out our medical team..... getting so much injuries and then turning them into disasters...


e.g verminator out for whole last season ?? with what ....

looks we have got cheap dr and coaches also did we sell any to barca/city ?

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Medical staff has been poor since Gary Lewin left for England

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Bit harsh. you do realise the man looking after the players is colin lewin? cousin of gary! its hardly going to be the staffs fault, and do you not think if colin was a bit stuck he might ask gary for some advice?

completely irrational argument

every club has long standing issues with injuries. more down to the pitches today being extremely firm, no give to the ground so impact is worse for the players and boots are far less stable. more designed for speed than comfort.

paul - rochester {Ed001's Note - not every club at all, that is nonsense. There are a number of clubs that have specific problems, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal being the main ones currently. Everton and Arsenal seem to be very similar, in that they push young lads, whose bodies are still growing, through a training regime designed for fully grown men.}

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