20 Apr 2021 07:11:42
"Organisers of the Super League have held early talks to secure a deal with broadcasters, such as Amazon, Facebook, Disney, etc - raising the annual revenues by €4B/ year - twice the amount earned by the UCL. "

That's a load of money and if that's not enough;

Clubs have the right to show four games a season on their own platforms.

The founders of the ESL will borrow the money to fund the new league from JP Morgan. - so that's the owners invested for a number of years

55% of revenues permitted to be spent on salaries and transfers (net) - that's the players concern gone.

Football is a big business but big businesses have to respect the environment they live in as well as their customers, what business wouldn't try to grow revenue and improve their company?

The founding clubs are expected to receive more than 10 billion euros in uncapped "solidarity payments" during their initial commitment period.

They will also receive 3.5 billion euros for infrastructure investment and to offset their losses from the C.V.

By comparison, UEFA competitions generated 3.2 billion euros in TV earnings in the pre-C.V. 2018-2019 season.

Seems like an easy business decision.


1.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 08:09:17
And for the small price of the game itself, much like if MPs voted to sell off the NHS to private company in order to secure all MPs a pension of 5 million a year.
Easy business decisions for the chosen few, never mind the effect it has on everyone else.


2.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 08:29:59
I’m finished with this level of football if it happens, I’m not interested in seeing Arsenal in a European League, it will become dull, I will go to watch Oxford, probably not alone in those thoughts .


3.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 09:22:28
The ESL will stream their games worldwide and sell in pay per view style or package and there are plenty of Arsenal fans in Africa Asia Australasia and some of us who will buy these packages. It`s why we did those tours over the last 20 years. They have done their sums they are businessmen after all. Players will stay on increased wages which will keep them quiet. They won`t care stadiums are empty. They will hope they fill up over time when the anger subsides and build the brand like they have in NFL NBA etc. A mate of mine heavily involved in horse racing has told me the majority of racecourses don`t want spectators back as they make more money from the betting sites bookmakers sky etc and opening up the racecourse costs them money. The big meetings Derby Aintree Cheltenham etc want spectators a wet windy Plumpton doesn`t. The way forward doesn`t include fans which is why they`re not bothered by the outcry but does include online streaming. By all accounts Spurs City Chelsea could be wobbling but those with US owners brought up on NFL NBA World Series with no relegation closed shops are ready to plough on and which is why I am ashamed not of Arsenal but of Kroenke. Not sure Premier League or FA will drop the six as it would diminish their competitions and then revenues and I include UEFA and FIFA in this as who wants to watch or sponsor a world cup or Euros without the world`s best players. Hope I`m wrong COYG Seriously considering The Amex if it happens which breaks my heart.


4.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 09:32:04
I think most of us feel the same mate, what's the point in watching something where failure doesn't matter for some and success isn't rewarded for others?
It's like a rigged boxing match where the challenger can't win amd the champion keeps his title regardless of abilty, it's ridiculous.


5.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 10:26:03
I agree Sussex it will be a success commercially.

Europe is a small part of a big world and we've brought up on competitive football where the biggest can fail and the smallest succeed but this is not universal and in many parts of the world it's all about putting on a show and much more about entertainment than sport.

Unfortunately we've had our way stollen, or more accurately we sold our way without the foresight to realise what we were buying into until it was to late.

We will have to either rebuild or give up and accept what's happened.


6.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 13:26:42
We really have to be reasonable here and realise the world we are living in. This no longer seems like an idea being floated around, we have seen the details that have come out around the setup and business model.

This is like a conglomerate of different clubs like any other business. People are saying they are forming a monopoly, but we already have monopolies, e. g. Google. I don't know much about the set up of the IPL but how much different is it? If the EPL and UEFA rejects them what's stopping them from taking their business to the States?

From a business sense I can't see that they are doing any wrong. From a football perspective the "Legacy fans" as they're being called claimed football and the clubs belong to them. But we know full well no one owns football as there is no copyrights on it and the owners are the true owners of the clubs. So it's fair to say they can run the clubs how they see fit albeit in a moral and sustainable way with consideration of its local environment.

We have seen for years how the broadcasters have shifted games around for viewership ultimately for the money. We have seen how the managing bodies cramp the fixtures in order not to return the money which many have concluded to be the reason for so many injuries to the players.

If we are honest, and we all love the game, for long it was no longer about the beauty of the game. It was about who can make the most money in a scheme. Managers are not given a target of playing free flowing, entertaining or attack football. Yes winning brings greater results but we have seen some teams don't want to win but want to survive. Players grow up loving football for the freeness and creativity of it but later become monotonous and robotic. If they don't adhere to it they risk losing out to someone who is more willing to follow tedious orders.

The point I am trying to make here is that it's long been about the money. So now we have a new idea for a bigger money plan and people are crying foul. Money goes to money, like they say. (G62 don't ask who are they, I have only heard of them :) smile face in case it doesn't come out)


7.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 14:13:58
But Yard the IPL works in the main fans like it, the Premier League works in the main fans like it. Haven`t seen many advantages to this new venture and no one likes it.

Of course it`s about money and it just doesn`t sit right with me having invested time money emotion for 50 plus years that some wealthy individuals can just change all that not for the good of the game but for more wealth.

From a pure pounds shillings and pence business decision it may make sense to the haves, doesn`t stop the have nots being p***ed off with it and at least trying to stop it. If you thought football clubs and Sky and BT were greedy at least that had a product we all mostly enjoy.

This new venture will only interest 6 clubs and have no jeopardy so will ultimately become boring. You say nothing stopping them taking business to US! What happens to the Emirates Stadium? Can`t see any good in it and I`m glad the money goes to money attitude is being derided and that most football supporters are united in this COYG And I`m sick of being reasonable.


8.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 17:02:38
Sussex people may not like the idea as it's not a think as yet. EPL is ok, we accept it because that's what we have and have been use to.

The other clubs and some others are dragging fans into their fight. Football is product not just a sport anymore, so an owner is free to sell their product where and how they feel.

There is a greater audience across the world and a new generation of fans. We fans don't own football or the clubs, but we and the commentators seems to be using that narrative.

It may start as a close shop but that doesn't mean it won't evolve to protect it. What's the difference with Primark not being allow a shop space on Regent Street in London?

"I`m glad the money goes to money attitude is being derided" - this thing has been around for the ages if we think it's going to stop or get rid of we're mistaken. Most times there are vested interest behind protest. The money people lobby politicians and so they lobby and instigate fans.

I am just not getting caught up or over emotional in their affairs. I have seen Arsenal fans lose faith in football over the years because they are an Arsenal fan above being a football fan. So however deep The Arsenal wants to be imbedded in it I will remain a football fan.


9.) 20 Apr 2021
20 Apr 2021 17:26:05
No worries Yard, each to their own. I just can`t help getting " caught up and over emotional " because to me football is all about emotion and optimism - always has been always will be. Won`t be supporting Kroenke FC and I have this trait where I will cut my nose off to spite my face and don`t thank Kroenke for making me do that COYG.