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10 Dec 2012 22:09:07
Usmanov jnr please tell me what's chamakh's position if he's not a striker. Also you're right when you say giroud is no huntelaar because giroud gets involved in the build-up whereas huntelaar is a deadly finisher. I'm not afraid to open my mouth so your wish of me shutting it won't come true.
Iceman
10 Dec 2012 22:07:03
champagne charlie, stoner, metal and flybo thoughts on a few things:
my problem with signing huntelaar is we all know that wenger is stubborn with the one upfront do you think this would limit giroud chances as i thinkhe is underrated and brings players into play, remeber chamakh was decent for 6 month before that dutch skunk came back from injury now look at him , wouldnt want giroud going down that way as he seems very reliant on confidence as his performance is often dictated by confidence..
As for tomorrow, i think it will be tougher as many people think, bradford cold tuesday sold out they will die on that pitch, will chamakh and arshavin sort of go yanoe what i aint here after jan do i care?, dont want us to get dragged in to a battle, what team would you play? i think id keep shezza, meade, verm, mert, jenko, coq, ramsey, rosicky, the ox ( build on the weekend) chamakh, arshavin/Pod?
comments please!
Yorkshire gooner Joe :D {Ed003's Note -
The thing is joe this is what i do not understand about wengers thinking!
is giroud are no1 cf or does arsene have a plan,if we were to sign hunterlaar would that not mean giroud is no2?
giroud said he did not expect to play as many games this season.
where does that leave podolski?he says he wants to play as a cf.
giroud,podolski,hunterlaar as are cf looks good to me.
if theo goes would that not mean we would have to be looking for a winger or 2?
i think ramsey is gone and the ox will move into that position eventually.then you have eisfeld which i think he will start to be introduced this season and i think he will hit the big time next season.
a lot depends on if he can shift some players in january
I DONT KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO YOU IM A BIT STONED.
as for the game tomorrow night i say play the best team,lets not f*** around, get the win and get home,we only have pl games now till the new year why take a chance.
champagne charlie
Just to add joe,
i have read posts on here where people say we dont need this player "B" we have player "A", this has all ways been are problem we have never had strength in dept.
we have all ways had a $h1t hot 1st 11 but they have never been fit for more than 5-6 games at once.
so if the intention is to sign players like hunterlaar i say the more the merrier.
champagne charlie
I understand the point Joe, but the way I see it, utd and city have 4 strikers fighting it out. That's what you get at big clubs. We need a bit of that. Serious competition in all areas. Henry and Bergkamp playing with Kanu and Wiltord or Suker on the bench. Like the good old days. Nothing wrong with that. We've spent far too many years depending on the one striker. Imagine Giroud, Hunterlaar, Podolski fighting it out. Happy days. On top of that epl games, league cup, f.a cup and c.l matches. It's a long old season including injuries, suspentions and just to have the opportunity to rest players is something that we haven't had for years. When we've rested players it's resulted in us getting knocked out of a cup.Giroud joined us because we are a big club. With big club comes competition, AND ABOUT BLOODY TIME.
Thank you for asking for my opinion :-)
As ever UP THE GOONERS. Flybo
"I DONT KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO YOU IM A BIT STONED."
LMFAO!
Thank Gawd for you Charlie or this page would be boring....if that makes any sense as I am stoned!
Ezdee
Ivan out PHW out(retire not die ) Stan out! Nasri-stay out! Pu$$y
11 Dec 2012 11:30:14
Yorkshire joe,
Thanks for asking me and sorry for delay in my reply, re tonight, pretty sure it'll be a strong team which will include Rosicky and I'm hoping like others at least Eisfeld on the bench if not starting, ideal game for him with experience around.
Huntelaar yes why not, in reality any player is a gamble just some more than others, both Charlie and Flybo make good points about strength in depth and if you look at a core of say 15 players we don't have much outside that. We need more additions now and the summer and that shouldn't include young guns with potential.
I can only see a win for us tonight and Theo leaving next month. Shame but I don't see anything changing between now and January. He has yet to turn himself into the real deal, he's def getting better though.
Stoner
Hi Joe (and everyone)
Thanks for asking! My take on Huntelaar comes in different angles - would he improve our squad? Definitely. He is a necessary signing. Like Berbatov, he does not possess mad pace but he knows how to craft a chance for himself and his movement is exceptional, it's what I call phantom movement. Fabregas had it, Eisfeld has it, Berba does, Jelavic has it, that's just a few names. They always seem to pop up in the right place and Huntelaar is the same, he makes up for any lack of pace with pure instinct and he's actually very skilful at making half a yard for a shot too- something Giroud is lacking in I think. His form, price and quality mean we would be so stupid not to sign him!
HOWEVER - our problem is the formation. Technically we don't have a striker issue, we had a wide attacking mid/winger issue. Podolski, Giroud and Theo all want to play up top and unless we change formation to having 2 more central forwards, we are going to have issues keeping players happy. JKH won't want to come and not be a starter, Giroud and Podolski won't be happy being dropped. Theo imo is off, and JKH is not a Theo replacement in the slightest. Nani/Ben Arfa is the sort for that.
So my take is if we change formation, buy an amazing DM and play a 4132 formation or something like that or 4411 sort of thing then get JKH here immediately. If we stick to 433 it'll be pointless.
As for Bradford - Wenger knows they're going to aim for a huge giant killing. Bradford can play football and we're at their place. Historically speaking I am USELESS at predicting the team! Think I've only got it right once. Wenger says we're taking a strong team though as the players have time to recover. Mannone is 'back in the squad' so I'm going out on a limb here with:
Mannone, Jenko, Mert, Verm, Meade, Ramsey, Rosicky, Santi, Oxlade, Gervinho, Podolski.
Bench: Szcz, Sagna, Gibbs, Coquelin, Eisfeld, Arshavin, Chamakh
Guess we'll know soon how wrong I am!
Metal Gooner
10 Dec 2012 21:21:32
Wenger and Gazidis have identified the players needed during the January transfer window as either to expensive or to ambitious and will instead rely on the failed formula of lower league french players and second rate africans happy to get a game. Anyone showing ambition or expecting wages similar to other clubs, will be cast out and labled as disloyal.
Bendtner will be recalled as our New signing as wenger is furious that he is likely to win a league title as this could cause massive repercussions in the changing room and could seriously damage the losing mentality.
Fans are preparing a march to show their solidarity in not signing class players, after all we are not citeh or chelski are we?
10 Dec 2012 20:26:40
Sorry guys this is ridiculous the number of people saying they WOULDN'T take Huntelaar of all people is ludicrous. For me he is one of the best strikers in the world and if you pay attention to the champions league you would have seen how he took us apart. For me he is one of the only players who can properly replace and compete with RVP in the league and the fact they hate each other makes it even better. At £4million I would class him as a greater signing than Cazorla and possibly one of wengers best ever signings. Lets face it he is just a class above Giroud CURRENTLY, and Theo isn't a good enough striker to win you games by himself unlike Huntelaar. so get behind the team and pray that we sign Klaas jan Huntelaar.
kb
10 Dec 2012 21:14:14
I guess the age and his previous history goes against him but more so that i think we'd all like to see us buy a big name as a sign of intent.
He would be a plus for us for sure and like has been said, for the money.....why not.
Stoner
10 Dec 2012 19:43:14
Banter please Ed.
Gotta say I hated Gary Neville when he played but love him as a pundit and he has just done Nasri a treat on SS1.
Stoner
Missed it what did he say?
champagne charlie
10 Dec 2012 21:06:55
He was analysing the Utd, City game Charlie and totally blamed Nasri for RVP goal where he moved out the way and said he always goes missing in big games and you only see him when it's Olay football, even said he should of been subbed before Balotelli.
He may even get it from the fans after that if he doesn't buck up.
Stoner
To be honest i only thought he started playing for us in the last year he was there.was nothing special for me other wise.
champagne charlie
10 Dec 2012 22:25:45
True mate, it just gripped that they let another one go but he was a cock about which makes him playing sh*te all the sweeter.
Stoner
25 million for him is the deal of the century! 35 for Fabregas and 25 for RVP are not however!
G95
10 Dec 2012 17:31:36
I got a bit of criticism by some people for saying that I would give Arteta the captains armband now (yes, I mean now). TV5 is a very good player but isnt and never has been a true leader, and if anything, his performances have suffered, whereas even before the season started, I saw Arteta as the true leader with perhaps young Jack to take over in the long term. I know people have been saying that its not the right time to change or it may affect TV5, but I really do believe in strong leadership and if change is required, I would not waste time...quite honestly, we have been playing so poorly all season long (referees wont always help us like in the last game) and maybe a change in leadership might rejuvenate the team as a whole although it would take some guts from AW, of which I believe he doesnt have.
I don't totally disagree with you but a clubs captain has to be a garunteed starter and although arteta is a great player, if we were to sign a top dm and/or diaby gets fit, I'm not sure I could find a spot for arteta, it sounds wrong to say but its true
Arteta has never had a full cap at international level. This has to be a prerequisite for an Arsenal captain.
TV5 is not that vocal like Veira or Henry was. I think Arteta is a better pick.
Then Adams would have had to wait?
Best man for job and one that knows what the badge stands for - a fighter and a leader. That's all I want
SY4
I ay podolski i think he can be a good captain
secret rider
10 Dec 2012 16:29:14
i think EISFELD will get a start tomorrow night.
champagne charlie
10 Dec 2012 16:42:15
Was hoping the same thing, it would be good to see him getting game time above the U21's
Stoner
I think that we are going to see pretty much the team that started against WBA except Podolski starting as Giroud is injured.
Probably with a young bench to bring on when we are in a comfortable position.
terry
I hope he will, looks promising with his interview on Arsenal.com
10 Dec 2012 16:09:08
If the rumours about Wenger buying 30 or 40 midfielders demonstrates a hidden agenda that he has at last given up on Adu Diabi
Horay
Fairy gooner
I think we'd need a bit more diversity in positions, rather than 30 or 40 midfielders!
I don't think we need 30 or 40 midfielders, 1 or 2 will do.
10 Dec 2012 16:00:18
Afternoon everyone,
It appears there is a bit of a split about Huntelaar. In my humble opinion he would be an asset to the squad. It gives us another option up front and for the money talked about, a bargain. Agree he is not the long term answer to our problems but a new face in the changing room, who has an overall decent strike rate, could bring confidence back. It also allows rotation, the opportunity to play 2 up front or one off the top man and lastly a degree of potential fear in our opponents, if he's on the bench and starts warming up. We haven't got that at the moment.
All said, I would have him in, he's not going to make the squad weaker.
Bones
10 Dec 2012 17:53:30
Hiya Bones,
For the money stated I guess it would be stupid not too but by the same token we should be buying younger and better.
Stoner
6 million is daytime robbery.
Stoner
bang on. A keen, hungry, young out and out scorer is key but can't see it happening in the Jan window.
Above all though, I would love anyone who takes pride and calls it an honour to put on our shirt.
Have a good one gang.
Bones
How is 6 million robbery? He scores goals and we need him, we're always complaining about buying too many inexperienced youths, if we get him at a modest wage 2/3year deal then 6mill is a bargain
Sheeny
It's daylight robbery
I cant see why any one would disagree with this signing.
he is a goal poacher and this has been missing from our play for too many years now.
he is the sort of player that can score any time in a game and if he was used as a sub we would have a real threat coming of the bench.
he suits are style of play,he does not have a lot of speed but he has the intelligence to find space and when you play possession football like we do he will be an asset.
champagne charlie
10 Dec 2012 15:41:16
Is wenger blind? Can't he see talents in Diego of Wolfsburg. What a world class footballer we are not looking at here. edds, what do you think about this guy?
Sultan
I dont rate him tbh, failed at many clubs.
Diego is only at his best in Germany.
Billybob
From what I've heard more trouble than he is worth, caused problems at Wolfsburg hence loan to Madrid last season and disappointed with Juventus previously who paid big money for him then sold him a season later. I think I'm also correct in saying he again caused problems this season and was demoted to the reserves for a while. With the arrival of Cazorla and the return of Wilshere doubt he would want a move either or be of much use to us we really need a defensive player to enhance our midfield rather than another attacking one. But that's only my opinion Will.
10 Dec 2012 13:56:51
I have just returned home from overseas, can someone please tell me the Tottenham score?
Very well.
It was 1-0 to Spuds after 90 mins, then the Spuds started singing 'are you watching Arsenal' , then Everton scored two goals!
Could,nt have written the script better mysef.
337
You will have wait until i finish my toffee!
champagne charlie
10 Dec 2012 15:15:30
I've just returned from the pub, anyone tell me what day it is! 5-2 to us mate.
Stoner
Everton 2 The Toot 1 - Loving it!
10 Dec 2012 13:36:19
Another person saying this time David Villa is nothing special !! I mean who are these people coming on here saying ish like that, for goodness sake. Eds please help lol!
Usmanov jnr
I think what these people mean is that there are better options for us, Villa is 31 now, his goals/games ratio is 28 in 59 games for Barca (Less than 1 goal every 2 games), he has just had a serious injury and may never be back 100%.
As you know we would only offer a 1 year contract over 30, plus he is a pure goal scorer and playing for Barca you would expect a goal per game from your main striker.
That my opinion anyway.
337
Great player, but entering his 32nd year, having had a serious injury. Personally, I would prefer Huntelaar, who is a couple of year younger & I have no doubt will score goals.
Hard to get on the sheet when Messi is taking all the goals though...
Sheeny
10 Dec 2012 13:29:49
Some people should just shut up when they speak about football, Iceman saying Giroud would bench Huntelaar and Chamakh is a proper striker. Where in your life have you ever heard rubbish like this, shut up please. Huntelaar has a ****in better goal's per game ratio then your Idol van persie, you obviously have no clue about what you talking about. As for Giroud, he is ok but he is no Huntelaar that's for sure.
Usmanov Jnr
I would like to see Huntelaar & Giroud play up front in tandem.
As much as i like the huge chunk of love, KJH would push Giroud out of first preference.
a big problem which most people seem to miss is that no matter who we get in now while Wenger's still in charge, they won't be an instant hit unless they buy into the philosophy.
KJH, much like Giroud, would prefer to play as the lone front-man but do we have a team that let's a striker just strike anymore? Giroud's had to drop lower in the middle to receive the ball because we've lacked aggression up front like the years before. who's to say KJH won't have to deal with just the same?
psychocyst.
Huntelaar would always start ahead of Giroud if I picked the team but don't forget it is Wenger doing so, he will probably play Huntelaar as a winger. I also personally thought Chamakh played better against Olympiakos then Giroud has for the last 5 games.
Chess
10 Dec 2012 11:05:26
Now I dont hate Aaron Ramsey and was exited like the rest before the leg break and even that winner at united after he just came back but stats dont lie :(
Arsenal with Ramsey: win ratio 48%, 1.65 goals.
Without Ramsey: win ratio 88%, 2.78 goals.
Baz136.
Although I do think he is not Arsenal first team quality in his defence Wenger is playing him out of position in a wide attacking role which just does not suit him atall.
Like you say stats dont lie and when he plays in that wide position it is like playing with 10 Men, he is just so ineffective there and slows the attacks down too much.
Ramsey is what I call a continuity player he will keep the ball well but he slows the play down in doing this and opts for the safe side pass over a more positive pass each time. I wonder if he would do well as a DM so we can move Arteta further forward?
I am not a great fan of Ramsey, although he should be judged playing a central role in a midfield four. He certainly doesnt have the pace or craft to play out wide. Why Wenger persists with playing players out wide, when they are clearly not suitable is beyond me. Indeed, he plays the Ox inside, when he clearly is a wide player!
Not an attacking player, slows play down.
He should bulk up and be converted into a deep lying midfield, Xabi alonso style.
Billybob
With time and a LOT of focused training here, i think he can slot in for Arteta's role but that's like 2-3 years down the road. he's good at ticking things over but lacks clear judgement at times. he's not one to play on the wing but he is capable of random runs into the box through the middle when we're camping outside the final third.
psychocyst.
Square peg round hole. He does not belong at Arsenal. It's that simple.
StEvE
10 dec 2012 10:59:03
every 1 should go over to the conspiracy page and have a look at the insane twins!
champagne charlie
That is mad! You need to watch the motorway madness uncut clip, bit long but well worth watching.
337
10 Dec 2012 10:47:20
Holy cow!! This may sound a bit farfetched. But i was watching that restoration show Wheeler dealers ( dont judge me), but i could have sworn the conversation between the salesman and his mechanic (the two presenters) about their new project could be the same one Gazidis has with the fans.
Does this sound familiar?
The mechanic (fans) fisrt explains that to get this classic (old) car through an IVA test you have to get a modern/new engine that would cost alot of money. He asks him if he is ready to spend some money.
The salesman responds by saying no, he got he car on the cheap and whatever improvement that has to be done must be done on the cheap so "we can maximise the profit".
When i heard that i burst out laughing because i was thinking it before he said it. I am starting to think like Kroenke and the gang
Im going out to buy somthing soon, i dont know what yet but its going to be some quality ****. Must cure myself from this Kroenkitis.
Lwi
10 Dec 2012 09:32:02
let me get this straight: huntelaar would be a decent signing, not great. look at his career. good in the netherlands, failed at real madrid, failed at milan, average first season at schalke, then has been great. for 6m that has been quoted, it'd obviously be a steal but imo giroud would bench him.
still i'd be happy if we signed him. because we never sign anybody in january (well arshavin but other than that it has been quiet). we also need desperately a striker because gervinho is not one, podolski is not one and there's a chance theo might leave. chamakh is the only other proper striker and clearly wenger won't rely on him anymore. so huntelaar would fit in well. there are other strikers i'd be far happier to take but if we end up with huntelaar because he's "available" it'll be alright for me.
iceman
Hunterlaar is a finisher. He's very rarely involved in build up play, and lacks pace. What are we good at going forward. Creating. What aren't we good at at the moment. Finishing. If the weekend is anything to go by, Hunterlaar would of only scored the two goals. Is he the best? No, but if the price being mentioned is there or there abouts. Then it's a no brainer. I'd take him all day long. Just a d.m l.b and g.k for competition for Shez then it's job done. For now.
UP THE GOONERS. Flybo
10 dec 2012 08:58:44
champagne charlie trhat rvp goal is dedicated to you son
help him get the board out they sold his idol
ms85
10 Dec 2012 07:18:06
When Van Persie left, a lot of people were saying how
he would struggle at United
he wouldn't adapt to their system
not many Arsenal players do well at other clubs
he will get injured
24 mil was a good price for a 29 year old injury prone player with a year left on his contract
Let's be honest, he has only gotten better...
It sucks watching him be so happy at United but that's what happens when the board ****s around with players and club ambitions.
I don't blame anyone for leaving this sinking ship, just the fact that he went to United and Nasri/Clichy went to City is a huge slap in the face.
Nick.
I didnt doubt RVP's ability for one moment. The problem was we had only a season left on his contract & keeping him, meant the loss of £24m, plus his wages for a season when he wanted to be elsewhere. Bearing in mind the whole deal cost United approx £70m, only time will tell if he is worth it.
10 Dec 2012 09:32:39
Nick,
I don't think it matters what we think of the hierarchy at Arsenal that was with out doubt one of the single most ridiculous things this club has ever done.
To not go balls out to keep him and potentially hand the title to a rival on a plate is fricking disgraceful. No matter what the business plan that was selling us and a title chance down the river.
It makes me feel sick watching him score every time in that poxy red kit! I don't hate the guy, honestly, just wish he was still here. That and they're 15pts above us with one of their poorest squads. Does my nut.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Stoner
Agree with stoner,for me that hurt more than selling cesc.
champagne charlie
If Arsenal never sold Cesc and Nasri when they did the club would have posted a huge loss this year so selling RvP was a must financially. I wouldn't go as far as to say Arsenal are a sinking ship, but Arsenal do need to spend a significant amount this summer and that will be difficult unless they keep selling players. Finishing outside the top four will be massively damaging for the club's finances, but it may be the wake-up call the board need.
Sydney!
10 Dec 2012 14:07:02
Sydney!
How much of a huge loss in honesty would of been sucked up if we'd kept him and actually fricking won something this year, I'm also guessing you didn't pay the 24 million in one hit and we are led to believe we have a large wad somewhere?
Anyway what you doing over here, flying visit, just trying to get away from KLOOT
Stoner
Have to agree, had no problem with cesc going as the boy wanted to go home and play for the best side in the world...but i will never be able to get my head around what RVP did ! it was like the ultimate diss to go to UTD and just shows what little loyalty he had for us, i get mad everytime i think about it, and in all honesty if he was still with us then man for man i wouldnt say there was much between the two sides at all.......footballing reasons my apse.
1404
10 Dec 2012 04:20:15
Although Van persie scored the winner in the manc derby, i still love him as a player, he spent 8 years with us, he hasnt won anything in 7 years, lets face it, i dont blame him for leaving, however im so glad nasri was at fault for the winning goal, has 1 good year and thinks hes messi. We got 20m+ for him and was an excellent deal, lets hope he ends up in the lower leagues after that performance today!
Nasri used to be one of my favorite players and after cesc left i really thought we would sign a new deal, step up and become one of the brightest stars in football. then he goes to city, has another average season but still wins something and suddenly he thinks he's the best. keeps going on about trophies with the arsenal supporters, what was the point in that? he's arrogant and disrespectful, another player bigger than the club. talent is still there but you can see he's lost all the effectiveness he used to have. he does nothing with the ball and plays only because city doesn't have a better player. that's why they tried to get hazard. nasri has always had the same problem, he's always in the shadows. here it was cesc and sometimes arshavin, at city it's silva. when someone actually expects something from him, he fails to take the chance. he used to say he has always finished second or lost the final and i can see why.
iceman
First of all I don't blame RVP for leaving, but let's be honest, yes he was with us for 8 years, but in that time how often was he injured and therefore unavailable for us. Just a quick point.
Flybo
He may have spent 8 years here but how much time was he actually on the pitch helping Arsenal win?I dislike him more than any other player who left us because so much time and money was invested in him and when it finally starts to pay dividends the "little boy in him" starts talking.
10 Dec 2012 01:34:39
sometimes you got love december this is when you see the media at its worse with the lies with transfer you really have to scramble to find the truth sometimes within now intill january i can assure you arsenal will be linked with at least 20 players.
but hey we read it and a percentage may believe it .ed keep up the good work with insight on transfer activities
10 Dec 2012 01:21:42
yanik bolasi from crystal palace looks like a cheaper option to zaha with similar qualities
Trust me, i have a season ticket to bristol city and he really wasn't that great last season, no where near arsenal quality.
10 Dec 2012 00:28:50
if we did sell walcott and then sighned Hunterlaar, zaha and henry on loan would arsenal fans be happy we replaced him with a striker and a winger or be dissapointed we sold another one of our best players?..... dj gooner
Id b happy with that. If walcott doesnt want to play for Arsenal, surely its better to get 2 new players who want to be there. Hunterlaar is a class player.
10 Dec 2012 00:18:14
ed i know this is probably a no brainer and twitter is not a great source all the time, fellaini any interest from arsenal {Ed027's Note - Not concrete info - We asked about him in the summer apparently, so did chelsea along with others, we got told 30m, and obviously ran away, rember Everton paid around 15m for him. Also has said his future is with Everton recently
Many players would say that but when the money on the table they may move he stated b4 he may consider a move so lets see on that
In todays current values, he is worth £30m. Imagine our midfield in a 4-4-2, as follows:
Wilshere, Fellaini, Abu Diaby & Cazorla.
Awesome, reminds me of the midfield of the 98 double winning team: Parlour, Vieira, Petit & Overmars.
09 Dec 2012 23:55:22
who would take a risk on this david villa from barca would you buy him now he is not 1st choice but is proven to score goals
Villa is nothing special, I could score goals for Barca with their supply line, he would struggle in the EPL
^ hes scored goals all his career at every club hes been with...
^^ you would hope he would score goals, he's a striker thats what he's paid to do. He's past his best now - not for us thanks
09 Dec 2012 22:46:42
Louis Gustavo to Arsenal ??? Ed any info?? {Ed027's Note - nothing at the moment, im hearing Diame, much cheaper, much more likely
Hmm diame was heating up the regarding a jan move i think it may be delayed knowing he is out for 3 months
09 Dec 2012 21:59:54
it really makes me laugh how much stick we've had regarding the carzola dive. the funny thing is a lot of man u fans i know on have been proper ranting about carzola dive. anyway it's nice to have a bit of luck for a change.
jack looked brilliant to
Absolutely, Rooney, Gerrard & Bale dive, yet because they are British its ok!
If diving is cheating, then so is intentional fouling.