Arsenal Banter Archive January 18 2013

18 Jan 2013 23:12:20
Well done arsenal for keeping walcott people need to stop moaning about the money he is on I agree that he might not be worth it but at the end of the day it's not about how much a players worth anymore it's about matching what he would get at other clubs. I mean if we didn't offer him 100k and he left on a free to man utd, Chelsea or city and performed you would be moaning that we should of just gave him 100k.

Hopefully arsenal will crack on with some new signings now theo is sorted.

Charlie Gooner 4 Life

18 Jan 2013 22:02:44
great start to the weekend theos joined the other four brits with new contracts, would be great to win at the bridge then announce some fresh players to the squad.

ty.1

Other 5* Brits...

Wilshere, Jenkinson, Gibbs, Ox & Ramsey...

Hes confused being british with being english!

18 Jan 2013 21:00:33
As you said Dave it's Arsenals page.....you use the woed 'yourselves' so I assume you're a Chelski or Spud.....it's why you all hate AW... while you were paying off more money to compensate sacked managers than most clubs were buying players with AW got our silverware cabinet filled.....

Its your page and you still leave no name tut tut no name posters are you embarrassed to I've youre name or just ignorant

dave

Filled with dust............

18 Jan 2013 20:54:21
I reckon Theo will be sold next year, either winter or summer. We simply had to cave in to his demands to stop him leaving for free.

At the end of next season the same saga begins, and in 18 months time he will never sign an extension on the same money or reduced salary, he has proven himself very greedy, he will only want more, which he won't get at arsenal unless he suddenly becomes a 30+ league goals a season striker.

I reckon he probably has a clause to make him available for transfer if we don't get champions league football, where we'd have to accept anything over 12-15m, and if we do get top 4 and he is our top scorer, I think the board would consider offers of >20m.

Basically, I don't think Theo nor the Board see him at the club for the duration of this new contract.

redgoon

19 Jan 2013 10:15:42
He signed a three year contract extension so that's 3 1/2 years. We won't be in this situation for another 2 1/2 years

18 Jan 2013 19:45:25
Regrdless of how inconsistent Arsenal have been, anyone else think this seasons premier league (so far) has been one of the best?

Everton have been very good, every game is exciting to watch. The spuds look dangerous. Albion are a solid team with some class players in key areas.

ManU have been very average in a lot of games with RVP making the difference, Citeh have weakened and can be 'got at', but their top players really are matchwinners, and Chelski are a bit of mess with aging stars in contract limbo, some very average players getting game time and they're no where near as dominant without drogba up front.

Liverpool are rebuilding in the right way with a good manager, they've released expensive flops and have promoted their promising young players. Swansea keep surpassing expectations.

All the relegation candidates are fighting every game - Harry has already got Rangers up for every game, Southamton have held their own, Reading have been in some of the best games this year, Wigan play some slick football, West Ham at home is tough game for anyone, and Norwich never give up.

Arsenal and Newcastle have undoubtably been the underperformers so far. We should really take some comfort that we are not in the position they're in right now; the differnece has been that when Newcastle have had a wobble, it has carried over to the next game(s), whereas each game has been like a clean slate for Arsenal, no momentum gained but no hangovers either.

We have a good chance of another top 4 finish, which is what we need to entice the players we want in the summer to replace the flops, that we now finally acknowledge, have been terrible.

and still a third of the winter window remains, plenty of time for some surprises...

gun44

1 of the best seasons so far ? with both manchester teams miles ahead of everyone else ..u don't make sence mate, and our arsenal have got worse 20 points behind halfway through, yer best season ever

No, I don't. Man utd are well at the top whilst playing like a very average team with RVP making the only difference. Chelsea have started spending big bucks again and as you said arsenal have been the most inconsistent I've seen them. Only positive for the over performing basement teams of last season.

18 Jan 2013 19:48:31
Thanks to Theo for being loyal. More then I can say for the many who have left in the last few years. I think he is playing exceptionally well and for once one of our players told the truth about the negotiations. He said from early on he wanted to stay and he did. As I have always said we are a much more dangerous team with Theo on the field. Arshavin gets 90k on that basis he deserves what he got.

Sorry but 'the many that have left' cannot be classed as not loyal just because they have left to join another club, I would say RVP is the ONLY one I would class not loyal to Arsenal and maybe Song because he was a trouble making **** wit.
People leave jobs to go to other jobs everyday.........doesn't make them not loyal.

1404 {Ed007's Note - What about Nasri for a start?}

Ed, you really think that every player that leaves is disloyal for doing so? So is Cazorla, Giroud, Arteta disloyal for walking away from there previous clubs? No they left one job to go to another one with better prospects and that's exactly what Nasri did, he didn't owe us anything unlike RVP ( In my opinion) harsh reality is Nasri left, and I use him as an example because so many have a big problem with him, because of lack of investment in the squad he wanted to win things and he didn't see it happening at Arsenal.
He did nothing wrong, he didn't hold the club to ransom, open and honest wanted to leave and that was that.
Out of all the players that have left over the last few years I think the only one that really hurt was RVP we showed a lot of faith in him over the years and he really screwed it to us, as for Cesc I don't blame him I would have done the same if I was at Barcelona and Arsenal were the best team on the planet, in fact I wouldn't have hung around as long! Hleb was a bit naughty, Nasri straight forward transfer in my eyes, Ade, Clichy, Song etc never mind better off without them.

1404

Ps bring the hate but these are the facts haha {Ed007's Note - Why did RVP owe something but Nasri didn't? Maybe RVP saw Arsenal weren't going to win things and left as well....Who's it worked out better for? You are talking nonsense and singling out RVP for doing what every player does, looking after their own interest.

Because we stood by RVP for a number of years through all the injuries we still kept him around, because he was club captain and just for the shear manner in how he went about things and the things he has said since, we deserved better.......Nasri was at Arsenal for 3 years so yes I believe it is very different, he left he shut his and got on with his football, RVP should have done the same.
And please don't catorgorise my opinions as nonsense, slightly unfair to say the least.

1404

18 Jan 2013 18:46:45
Walcott done signed baged and tagged whos next

I have already stated any new face will be an unknown with the usual AW promise of future potential

18 Jan 2013 17:48:43
I don't get the fuss about walcott, if we had offered him 50k and he had gone, you would of all slated the board "omfg we won't spend money!" etc etc... Now we get him on a long term contract your slating walcott.

persons.

Well done AFC - stepped up and paid "market rate" for an up and coming, game changer ENGLISH ( home grown ) player.

I would rather have him than play against him.

Great goal ratio and assist stats.

People moan when we step up and moan when we don't

I am glad we stepped up and now hopefully compete in the transfer market

Club said they would compete and they have done here. The vultures at CFC or Utd would have equaled the pay deal.

Give the club some credit and get behind the team

SY4

The problem is Walcott isnt worth 100k. he's greedy. on more then Wilshire.....ur having a laugh. he's a 50k player at best

Who decides what a TV is worth, a CD

The market place - ask HMV they learnt
The hard way

Theo's wage is excessive but still market rate for an English international

Get over it and praise the club. Are you adapting their socialist wage philosophy? Hope so

The issue is not Theo but thr dross on excess
SY4

18 Jan 2013 17:21:16
.com just says 'long-term ' contract signed......is 3 1/2 yrs long term?

Might be a 3 and half year extension to his reaming year?

I think Walcott actually wanted a 5yr deal at 100k but in order to pay that in wages we agreed a 3 1/2 yr instead.

18 Jan 2013 16:41:59
Walcott arsenal highest paid player in their history totally pathetic he tacked his self he can't cross can't finish can pass he is quick and that is it

18 Jan 2013 16:18:27
Theo deal on website good news.

Darren Tampa

18 Jan 2013 15:51:16
walcott signs big deal, .. think we need more additions than him!!

18 Jan 2013 15:38:28
Arsenal confirm theo signed

18 Jan 2013 15:36:10
It just shows how much our standards have dropped wen we have to pay a poor and sorry he is poor player in walcott 100k a week he scored a hatrick against Newcastle yes but in the 5 games since ?? Nothing and he is our best player really very sad wenger out and take overrated theo with you

Do you watch him play? What about all the assists etc ?

Totally agree

18 Jan 2013 15:27:31
Wenger had said diaby is our midfield power house Really the guy is useless we will sign no one wenger out

Never hurd of a powerhouse made of glass have you !

Bore off to the spuds then. diaby is a tank on his day, he's just very injury prone, its not his fault believe it or not, no one wants to be injured. get behind the players we have got instead of moaning about the ones we won't sign good lord

Bradders (at least have the balls to put your name.)

18 Jan 2013 15:21:33
Delighted that walcott has signed would
have liked it to be more than 3.5 years but
shur it will be grand.. Like to see what's in store
for the rest of this window.

Joe n

18 Jan 2013 15:07:26
Walcott highest paid player in the club? What the f*** is happening.

18 Jan 2013 14:30:51
Before we get carried away let me give my two pence worth...not that it needs to be taken for its face value.

Goal Machines, or game changers

Messi - undisputed

after 99 mississippi - Ronaldo
2 missi (whatever) - Falcao / RVP / Cavani / Suarez / Aguero / Benzema / Higuain

1.3 trillion mississippi later its what I consider the most under-rated target men in the world...who out of some avenger movie would be football superheroes

West hams very own collection of Andy Caroll, Andy Carrol's half brother Carlton Cole, and the Moroccan version of torres.

What the hell are you on about?

Pete '63

19 Jan 2013 09:36:59
There were 5 people that agreed???

18 Jan 2013 14:15:45
Anyone else kind of shocked that Adkins has been sacked? I am really disappointed. I don't know if this is purely results-based or whether this has something to do with his absurd comments after Rodrigues's dive but I highly doubt that.

I am shocked that after back to back promotions, some good form, recent draws with Arsenal and Chelsea etc etc that he has been sacked! I mean surely they're paying him off yes? Why not spend that money on a top top defensive coach? I mean Southampton have some great players who put in a shift and they play some great attacking football when they want to - they have issues at the back that's all. Surely a defensive coach is where you'd consider first?

Ah well good luck to him, I for one feel bad for him think he's done wonders for that club, they're 15th in the league above both the other promoted clubs and I would have liked to see him stay til the end of the season.

Metal Gooner

I completely agree! They deserve to be relegated after such bad behaviour!
Adkins seems like a well decent chap and has been very successful. Why get rid?

Bad karma boys. Poor show.

Well Metal Gooner, you seem to have a lot of friends but do check the facts-I think you will find WHU have a question about one of your statements!
I am a Saints supporter and a great admirer of Adkins but find the "knowledge" of the top four clubs supporters regarding other clubs in the Premiership is rubbish. And what is all this about Rodriguez dive? The penalty was not even awarded for that! Yes MOTD and the papers thought it was, but that is just typical of the Metropolitan Liberal Elite they represent (and same for some Premiership clubs). Why let the facts get in the way?

And just remember who is the manager who always fails to have seen a penalty incident so can't comment-would it be a certain AW?

Sorry for the rant mate, but if you look at the post below talking about which teams will be relegated, there does seem to be an unhealthy wish by you and your co supporters to nit pick other clubs. Yes, some of us could do with improving, but then some of us develope our own players in our own academies!

Well if we're honest you'd be surprised at how many enemies I have on here. People certainly do not agree with me for the sake of it, that I can assure you! Not that it's as bad as it used to be.

I am not sure what you mean about West Ham?

I think you've misconstrued my post entirely - the whole point is that I really like the league this year and apart from Villa who play shyte football I really don't want to see anyone, perhaps not even Villa, get relegated. It was merely a point of discussion. I don't want you guys to go down, I don't want Chelsea Or Spuds to go down or even Stoke as they offer something different. How you've turned that into me wanting to nitpick other clubs I am not entirely sure.

All I know is the clubs coming up really don't do anything for me and for that reason I'd rather see some teams come up who used to be big in the top league when I first got into football, which was about 21 years ago when I was about 7. Most teams have history but I was merely starting a discussion.

As for Jay Rodriguez - he performed one of this season's most blatant dives to win a penalty recently against Aston Villa, it was a joke. You know, the one where Adkins came out and said 'there wasn't contact but if he hadn't moved out the way he could have been seriously injured'.

All in all I am not too sure I understans whre your post comes from.

As for nitpicking clubs, I only ever want rubbish teams out of the league, simple as really. Teams that play nice football and go down, well, that always disappoints me. I hope you lot stay up.

Metal Gooner

To the southampton fan. For someone who likes to correct people you're last sentence was very stupid. We paid very good money for your raw talent (theo and ox) and it's not as if we don't produce players ourself!

Metal Gooner-can you not read the league table?? WHU were promoted with Saints and Reading, WHU are above Saints in the table. You stated Saints were above both other promoted clubs-means you were wrong.
Penalty at AV was given for a foul by the GK on Puncheon (wasn't a foul). Nothing to do with Rodriguez.-means you were wrong again.

But as I say, don't let the facts get in the way.

Now, I suggest you take another look at the Rodriguez incident. Was he heading for goal and took a dive to try and win a penalty? No he was not, he was going across the penalty area stretching to nick the ball onto Ramirez for him to bury it. He knew by doing that he could get clattered and "dived" out of the challenge, but he did nick the ball onto Ramirez, who then made a Horlicks and put it wide.I saw it and heard Adkins comments, which were perfectly reasonable.But then no-ones interested in that because the media just want to continue the diving debate.

RE: Leaguet able - fair point! Minor confusion, it's not that I don't know my facts. Fair point and I take it, I just got confused for a second. WH were of course promoted so do sit higher than you yes.

I suggest you drop your sarcastic tone pal.

As for the Rodriguez incident - you really are embarrassing yourself defending him. It was a disgrace. I have my own eyes and don't need you to tell me what happened, I saw the game, saw the incident, watched the replays, watched MOTD and at every moment I see the same thing. I do not need to be biased whereas you're a saints fan defending an indefensible action just like Adkins did and you're just making a fool out of yourself.

So, I suggest YOU take another look, get off your high horse, stfu and come back onto our page when you have something sensible to add. There is nothing more irritating than a woefully biased fan who needs a trip to specsavers.

You are honestly embarrassing yourself defending Rodriguez. I don't mind if a manager defends his players no problem, if he deals with it internally. Some managers will make a fool of themselves defending their players and that's what Adkins did. But when the fans can't even say it was a dive it's just embarrassing for all involved.

So keep your lectures to your pages, you aren't going to convince me or anyone else for that matter that Rodriguez didn't dive, he clearly did, it was stupid, he won a pen he shouldn't have won, he got the 3 points for you, and you fans should keep your traps shut. Just like we did when Santi Cazorla dived against West Brom.

Metal Gooner

Simples, Metal Gooner. For all your ranting, about me defending the indefensible, you simply ignore the point you initially made about Rodriguez diving to win a penalty.

Like your confusion about the league table, you are confused that Rodriguez won a penalty by diving. HE DID NOT. Suggest you listen to what the ref. said, rather than the "persons" on MOTD.

18 Jan 2013 13:12:42
I don't get the quote from wenger "the players that can strengthen us are cuptied in europe. For one there are players out of europe that could help us, and another, who cares about europe, We could be out in the next round, we have a very tough game against bayern munich, and we will do amazingly well if we manage to go through.

Why can't we buy players that will help us get in the top 4 and win the fa cup?

Get Real ! We won't sign anyone..
We can't even sign a player who is already on the books ! The papers say that Walcott has signed, but the club site still remains "silent" . The Press are bleating on that Theo has only signed for 3.5 years, not the 5 years that we wanted. Arsene is stringing us along. Don't expect things to change.
Our club is losing the plot......
I feel physically sick when I see RVP
in that Manc shirt. Should never have happened...... Oh well... Sunday's game might be called off, and that might ease my anxiety until West Ham on Wednesday !

Well put - if you consider that a signing is supposed to have some sort of future at the club then I find the excuse of a few months not being able to play for us in the current champs league campaign absurd - at the end of the day if we don't sign the player they still don't play for us so what's the point in not having them for every other campaign we're in? Plus in a few months if we do qualify then that player is ours to use in the champs league! Such a stupid reason not to sign a player. We'd rather not sign talent than sign talent and not use them in one competition.

Metal Gooner

18 Jan 2013 12:06:55
So Wenger sells RVP for £24m and is looking to buy a +£30m striker - wake up.

Pointless post?

RVP wanted to leave, £24m as the best price, he was going to leave on a free.

I am not saying we will spend that money but if we don't it has literally nothing to do with anything that happened with RVP.

Metal Gooner

Well said metal, must be the same people who keep going back to us selling RVP, they really cannot and will not grasp why he was sold - get over it

337

18 Jan 2013 15:19:06
As usual Mental - you missed the point.

No the point you're making is that we should have paid RVP what he wanted right?

My point is he wanted to leave.

Am I missing something?

Metal Gooner

P.s. you can add 6 others to the list of people who missed the point in that case you tool!

'Mental' Gooner

18 Jan 2013 18:27:27
ooh get her!

18 Jan 2013 18:38:46
Listen Mental - maybe you need crayons to help with this, but the point was that RVP became disillusioned (apologies for the big word) with how the club was being run and its prospects. With that as a backdrop - there is no way Arsenal will now look to spend £30m on a striker.

18 Jan 2013 09:45:26
Dear Arsene,

Re: 'The Obstacles To Buying In January'.

Firstly please let me thank you for that insightful piece of world play on the Arsenal PLC PR Page...ahem, sorry, the Official Arsenal FC Website.

Contrary to your beliefs, which you always fail to support with clear evidence, there were many moves made within the first few days of the window. Reading signed a defender on the first day, Tuesday 1st Jan after bank holiday Monday. Seeing as that was the first thing I heard on the radio that day I would assume that not only did the club do some work on that deal prior to the window opening, but also they did the work on NY day bank holiday. Can you say the same? Ich don't think so.

Within the first few days we saw a few more moves, most notably Demba Ba who moved to Chelsea and has since scored 3 goals in 4 games. This is YET ANOTHER player who was a nightmare against us, but not good enough to buy for 1.5m more than we paid for Santos. We have seen similar mistakes with key players over the last year or so - Jose Enrique, Victor Moses, Diame, 3 players who consistently outperformed the Arsenal players they came up against but they somehow weren't good enough?

I would ask, Arsene, that you keep your pie hole closed til the end of the month. I remember once how much you gushed over Neymar - what good did that do? You clearly said 'If I had £40m I would buy Neymar' - what you failed to concede is that we could all see the accounts and there was £53m sitting there - you didn't buy Neymar and the fans who didn't know any better were really upset.

Now it's Cavani. To be honest Arsene, you don't need to speak about other players. I don't want to know how amazing you think he is, I really don't, in fact the only time I want to hear that is after he has scored some goals for us.

Also, may I ask that you stop wasting everyone's time with regards to scouting? You scouted Giroud for 10 weeks. TEN WEEKS! And the conclusion was that there was not a better striker the world over to bring here? Don't get me wrong - I love Giroud, I really do. I love his gumption, his fight, his never say die attitude - you can't put a price on that. I love that if he gets a sniff he will have a go - we've been missing that for about 6 years. But we needed more if RVP was leaving. You knew he was leaving, and after all your scouting the best you could come up with was Giroud. That is simply not good enough. I might add, Podolski is not included in this because we all know a) he was as god as signed after the Cologne game 2011 and b) you bought him to play wide left.

Why you didn't try and sign Reus, Lewandowski, KJH, along with decent cup strikers who can play against teams like Norwich etc like Abdellaoue, M Suarez, Jelavic...who has shown he's far more than that by the way.

However, I think you have given something away.

You say prices go down in January. Seeing as most clubs with money tend to put their prices UP towards the end of Jan because they are unable to source replacements before the window shuts, this tells me you're only looking at players at clubs who are desperate to sell due to financial issues. So apart from giving that much away, it's clear you don't want to spend much.

So we won't sign Diame because Allardyce WILL want a replacement. We won't sign Fellaini because Everton will want his release clause in the very least and to buy a replacement before the window shuts. Although that said, I have no doubts Moyes could easily sell Fellaini, source and buy a top replacement in one day.

We certainly won't sign Cavani and at any rate his price certainly will not decrease before the end of the window unless Napoli are desperate to sell...which is doubtful.

So now I will see if I can do a search to find the most broke clubs in Europe and see which rubbish players you'll be trying to sign, To be honest, unless it's a player like Giovinco or someone in that mold, and Isco, I am not sure I am too excited.

Please keep your mouth shut Arsene.

So according to you we need about 15 players - all of whom are YOUR choices - and not back the judgement of someone whose acuity in the market and RESULTS have proved awesome over and over again and don't go on about nothing won for 7 yrs......so what - before Chelski was bought by RP the won bugger all for a lot more than 7 yrs and apart from the okey cokey cup Spuds have won sod all since petrol was 10p a gallon!
Been watching arsenal since 1955 and the last 16 yrs have been the best of all by a mile

yorky gooner

If you can't make your comments short and to the point don't bother. I fell asleep half way through.

The second poster is talking rubbish if the team has been so good how come you didn't win anything. why compare to other teams its arsenals page look at yourselves not teams like chelsea before RA .please face the facts that as an indication of how well/poor the team has performed is shown by the silverware, saying well we were really good isnt enough only WINNING is

dave

The reason the no name poster fell asleep is probably because he has the concentration level of a gnats testicle

dave

18 Jan 2013 08:30:17
Enough moaning, lets get behind Arsene and the team. We are in the last 16 of the Champions League. We have a very winnable tie at Brighton in the 4th round of the F A Cup. If we match the Toot's result at the weekend & beat West Ham at home midweek, we will be 3 points off a top four place. We appear to have extended Theo's contract. We have Abu Diaby back fit, Wilshere hitting top form and only 3 players with short term injuries. Assuming Arsene makes the two quality signings he is working on, we look in a strong position to finish top four and challenge for the F A Cup.

Best post for a while. It is clear that arsenal needs 2 or 3 great signings, but some fans are just obsessed by buying. We don.t need m'vila, villa, or others like them. We need a striker better than what we have or nothing, a better dm or nothing, a gotze isco am style or nothing.
Maxxcez

18 Jan 2013 06:05:18
30 million will never get cavani. he will at least commend 40-50 million upwards. as Wenger has said, Napoli is fighting for the champion's league place, which in itself will guarantee them 30 million if they qualify for it. Doubt Napoli will be willing to sell unless we bid substantially more than 30 million.

holy gunners

18 Jan 2013 02:27:42
Sorry about my earlier rant about the ticket prices but now for some real talk. So here's my 2 cents on the whole cavani deal.

Firstly, I really don't see us getting him in this window, especially not for 30 million when his release clause is set at £45 million. Also a few weeks ago he said in an interview that he was happy and wanted to be a Napoli player for a long time. His wife and kids are Nepolitans and he's loving life in Naples. Napoli are also right up there in the title race in serie A and he's club tied for Europe so it definitely won't happen in January. If we do sign him I'll neck a pint of jd and pay a link to the video on this site.

Wenger wouldn't just randomly come out with those comments if he didn't have something planned. I remember Alan Smith saying early on in the season that we should have the financial restraints of paying off the stadium in the near future, could be a sign. And we are now slowly but surely getting all of the deadweight of of the wage bill (finally). Could be a sign. It's wishful thinking but I can't think he might be getting a lined up as a potential target in the summer provided we finish in the top 4. But I'm not getting my hopes up until then. Also to my knowledge he's on 120k a week at Napoli which isn't out of our range and really he doesn't strike me as the selfish type so come July ib think we're in with a good chance of his signature.

Until then I'll be happy with a solid defender yet to be named and either Capoue or Fellaini who I must admit I was shocked to hear from the eds that he is a bit genuine arsenal target, theo signing a new deal and Jack being made captain.

Sorry for the long post but here's to another 2 weeks of agony and suspense.

JG

18 Jan 2013 00:59:10
My two pence in, wenger to spend £ 30million on the right player will be walcott, think about it his wage over a long term contract, add-ons, agants fee etc. world class players will not join us just because walcott has signed on, wenger wants british players to be the spine of the team.
Jack the lad is not world class fact, he has passion for the team. he is not a fab, he doesn't see the right pass nor does he read the game well. he is a fighter, he has balls.
fab, at jacks age was somthing special he could read the game make the easy pass, the one tuch pass that would lead to a goal. i'm not slagging of nor under-rate the guy he is fantastic we need ten more of him on the pitch for us! yes I have watch him play on sky and been lucky enough to watch the game at the emirites several times this season.
i think we need to think outside the box with wenger and the rest on them. in 2019 we would have been in the top flight of english football for 100 years what other club can say they have done that?
it maybe a sad time to be a gooner but lets think what the next 10years will bring hopefully another 10 of jack the lad then we can really go for titles. I love arsenal football club and I will always be red and white till the day I die, that's what makes arsenal the worlds greatest team.
thank you for reading

simonarsenal81

Sorry mate have to disagree with you jack for me is something special right now he could go into any team in the world and they wouldn't hesitate to buy him. Also fab a jack are different sort of players so I do agree with you trying to compare the two. Fab was more of a ball player a play-maker while jack is more of an attack with the ball sort of player that runs at defenses. Now people don't start moaning about what i'm about to say but jack is a messi like player and I don't mean as good as messi but he's style of play is like messi. For me in the last month performance wise there hasn't been a better midfielder in the league than jack.

Charlie Gooner 4 life

Jack Wilshere is world class!!

Jack is the best 21 year old out there ..centre mid is the hardest postion..hes been injured for 17 months do you think he's guna come back and play like messi straight away ?....every person in the football world nos how good he his apart from you...re -write your message mate

You think jack is no good why do you want 10 more of him on the pitch ????

Er...I think you are under-rating the guy, OH NO so he isn't quite as magical as Fabregas was at that age!! He is still world class.

Jack is better now than Fab was at his age. I don't know what player you've been watching- maybe Ramsey? He's the Welsh one you realise?

Paul

Simon, the hype surrounding Jack is founded. He is a different player from fabregas. Jack has the touch and vision. He is also combative unlike Cesc, and is comfortable deep lying or pushed forward. He is just coming back from a very long lay off which had halted his development. Mark my words when the chips are down 99 percent of managers would chose Jack over Cesc who often went missing in big games. Barcelona champions league comes to mind. Jack bossed their midfield. Cesc went missing.
Jack is the brightest prospect in English football bar none.
Let's see how he fairs over the rest of the season. Arsene has stated that Jack is the complete midfielder. High praise indeed.

Kermit79

To sum up Jack:

he is a complete midfielder

Jack is a class act, but just because he's the best prospect England have -it doesn't make him world class yet. Given time and experience he can develop into the world class player you crave.

How thick are the blokes (bloke) that disagrees aren't right in the head

18 Jan 2013 00:10:59
"Listen, [with regards to] Cavani; Napoli are playing for the title and the Champions League in Italy. What is Napoli's interest in selling Cavani? None, unless you say, �OK, we will pay twice the price of what the player is worth'.

"On top of that, all the players who can strengthen us are cup-tied in the Champions League."

Wenger in arsenal.com

He knows there is only one team winning the italian league this season, its not napoli, dispite what he says.