Arsenal Banter Archive February 23 2015

23 Feb 2015 20:56:55
Special One :

Blues boss declares Arsenal "cry babies" and declares "it's a man's game, that's why I love English players" after a nasty tackle on Mikel Arteta by John Obi Mikel.

What's up Special one? Own medicine not so sweet?

I hated that tackle and the one on Matic - regardless of shirt

Can't stand the special one

Now he's moaning about Wenger again - classless

23 Feb 2015 21:55:09
Managers are like politicians, they talk bull sheet. Jose is classless when he opens his mouth sometimes but he's got selective amnesia just like our manager. i'm afraid not many of them score highly on speaking fairly on things they sometimes see or don't see. They are all guilty of lying, (ooops did I call them liars)
when they are talking about their own clubs.

23 Feb 2015 22:49:14
A total bowel nugget.

Well done 337, you have ressurected Stoner's famous saying :-)

23 Feb 2015 22:09:33
If you are a talented capable individual who has won, clearly knows how to win and will no doubt win again, why would you want to become a figure of hate by blowing others candles out to make yours shine brighter.

He and that rancid club he works for continue to do themselves no favours whatsoever.

24 Feb 2015 08:57:40
"Blow other candles out to make yours shine brighter".

Red, love it.

Gonna nick that one.

24 Feb 2015 15:25:01
Love that phrase Dags, stoners still around so don't tell him I've nicked it

23 Feb 2015 20:12:52
giroud lol bale scored more goals than him from midfield. also kane is the top striker about as you found out youselves lol. enjoy watching us at our 2nd home on sunday WEMBLEY

Raver oh dear oh dear

Please do your homework before you come on here

Bale scored 42 goals in 146 games for Spuds ( sniggers )

His strike rate is worse that Girouds

You looked silly before your post

23 Feb 2015 20:21:11
Have a heart Bambam.

They have Solda-dope and Adebaypants upfront.

Let them crow about Bale.

23 Feb 2015 20:33:38
Wembley is their 2nd home?

They haven't been in an FA Cup final for 24 years.

Raver, I'll have some of what you are smoking at the lane.

23 Feb 2015 20:55:47
We could compare ex players with raver all day, giroud is a striker bale isn't.

A fairer comparison is soldado 45 games and a very not so impressive 7 goals, not bad for 20 odd million.

Then there's the lazy one, he'll be happy picking up his 170k a week.

Harry kane is on form but we'll see how long that last, I remember most spurs fans was slating him a few months ago.

23 Feb 2015 19:03:23
Steve just looking at Stats of the strikers you mentioned

Games per goals

Henry 1.65 games per goal
Wrighty 1.56 games per goal
RVP 2.11 games per goal
George doesn't feature due to not enough goals scored
McDonald 1.89 games per goal
Kanu same as George
Stapleton 278 games per goal
Wiltord same as Kanu and George
Anelka same as Kanu, George and Wiltord
Radford 3.23 games per goal

George scored 33 in 133 games
Wiltord scored 32 in 104 games
Kanu scored 30 in 119 games
Anelka scored 23 in 65 games

Giroud stands at a rate of 2.34 games per goal

Which really isn't bad looking at the other stats.

{Ed001's Note - I really thought Stapleton had a much better strike rate than that!}

23 Feb 2015 19:32:57
How impressive are Wrighties firgues? To think he played when we were at our least attack minded too.
How many would he have scored in his prime with the invincibles or even in today's team.
Once chance one goal one nil to the Arsenal was so often the case in his hey day

23 Feb 2015 20:05:44
Whoops

Obviously it is missing the . got spot ED lol

Still not as good as Giroud's

{Ed001's Note - depends on where you put the ., if it is in front of the numbers then he has an amazing record!}

23 Feb 2015 20:07:01
62 you are correct though we have to remember in IW and TH we had two strikers who would walk into any team......................in the world, and I mean any team

23 Feb 2015 20:08:27
So did I Ed.

Would be nice to know the stats for Alan Sunderland.

Him and Stapleton were lethal.

The original SAS.

23 Feb 2015 21:11:53
Ive always said wrighty was the best striker we have ever had, but I still loved henry. We should have a statue with a gold tooth as well in my opinon.

23 Feb 2015 22:42:02
The two of them were outstanding, words fail to describe just how good they were

23 Feb 2015 11:18:18
There is a lot of people on here questioning Giroud. Saying he misses too many chances. Yes in the past he's been extremely wasteful but this season no one can question his goal scoring record.

He has 8 in 11 games and has scored this season away at Everton, away at Liverpool, away at Man City. Goals that has got us important points. Knowing you lot you will pick up how he missed a simple header against Stoke and saying how a top CF will bury that but completely forget how sanchez missed a open goal in the same match from 3 yards.

People will argue he will never score 25 goals a season. i agree with that, but Bergkamp never scored 25 goals a season and he was one our most influential player.

As long as he keeps getting important goals and assists which continues to get us points then i'm extremely happy he is in team. I rather have someone scoring 15-20 goals when most of those goals influence the games rather then have someone who scores 25-30 goals a season when they just add gloss to a 5-0 scoreline.

23 Feb 2015 12:41:47
He wouldn't get in my top ten favourite arsenal strikers and he isn't in my top ten forwards in europe at moment. I've always said, good but not great, he just doesn't exite me. Hesxa smudger smith type striker not wrighty or henry. i'm just not a fan and don't see him lifting us to the next level.

23 Feb 2015 12:51:59
I am glad he is with us. 35 goals in 70 PL starts makes him a top striker. He is no Aguero but he is a totally different kind of striker. He is fantastic at holding the ball up, has a wonderful touch, scores all kind of goals, creates goals, works hard and is deceptively quick. He is IMO in the top 3 in the premier league.I think he has already got 20+ in his second season and would have surpassed that this season if hadn't missed 3 months with injury. He still might! I think he is badly underrated by our fans and pundits alike.

23 Feb 2015 13:03:44
for me giroud is not the problem. its the CDM.

having to rely on the team to defend as a unit, it keeps giroud just near the halfway line, and with lack of pace his options diminish very quickly on a counter.

he does hold up well but it can't be our only outlet.

if we have a reliable commanding CDM, we can leave 2-3 players uptop, say ozil, giroud and alexis and give the attacking team decisions about putting pressure on us at one end while contemplating a counter the other end.

palace, spurs and leicester did the same thing and they were well aware that they could catch giroud if need be.

with alexis lacking fitness, and ozil just recovering the counter is not working as perfectly as intended. but i think with the right CDM, we can alleviate pressure from defense and free some offensive options.

23 Feb 2015 13:34:13
We aren't a aguero level team though, we aren't aguero short of being a top class side we are probably 3-4 players off that. Giroud is a cracking player for us. He's the third best striker in the league and we are the third best team. I'm not saying I'm happy with third, but untill we start to genuinely challenge i'm happy with giroud

23 Feb 2015 15:35:42
Steve, I am interested as to who you're top ten Arsenal strikers are in that case? Francis Jeffers always takes the top spot - that is a given.

23 Feb 2015 17:19:01
It looks like Sanchez is capable of 20 plus goals a season, Walcott is capable of 20 plus goals a season, if Giroud can manage 25 then potentially we have have near to 70 goals from our front 3.

If we add a Ramsey of last season with two of Cazorla, Welbeck, Ozil and Wilshere getting into double figures we are not far off the 100 goal tally.

It is a possibility that could happen, a solid defence and it would make us serious contenders.

Will it happen, did we ever foresee Ozil and Sanchez in Arsenal shirts? Good things do happen and a team grows together.

In a minute it will be a case of who can make the bench not the 1st team.

In short we can win a title with Giroud, just as part of the team rather than RVP style in 2012, the only question is would we swap him for Costa, Aguero, Lewandowski, Saurez, Higuian or Benzema and in the vast majority of cases people will say yes.

23 Feb 2015 17:30:31
Bergkamp was in the 442days. Would he survive now in our formation as the main striker. I doubt it. Bergkamp was more than twice the player giroud was

{Ed001's Note - wouldn't Bergkamp just play as an attacking midfielder these days?}

23 Feb 2015 18:15:54
Tpg henry wrighty rvp george mc donald kanu stapleton wiltord anelka radford, i haven't included bergy or sancez although i could but i don't see these as out and out strikers in the sense. All of the above are way better footballers and strikers and i enjoyed watching. Look forward to you picking spots off my choices.

23 Feb 2015 18:36:38
Steve you're funnier than dags! Kanu and wiltord? Seriously?

23 Feb 2015 19:20:37
He would indeed eds so pointless comparing to giroud

23 Feb 2015 20:55:50
337 my opinion, but they won major leagues and trophies to show for it. And your nit picking now. Only two to complain about eh.

23 Feb 2015 21:37:34
Don't do nit picking Stevo, just say it how it is and giroud is better than those two by any argument, goals per game, work rate and assists, plus better looking. I could have got all statistical with you and named another three with worse statistics but couldn't be bothered.

And just to clarify I'm not girouds biggest fan, but he's an arsenal player and as long as he gives his all I'm behind him!

23 Feb 2015 01:43:06
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Manchester 'pointless possession' United - The Truth