Arsenal Banter Archive January 02 2015

02 Jan 2015 22:48:17
We have to many players who need a helping hand in too many games and not enough players strong enough to carry them plus them self's to a title.
Sanchez and Kos can hold their own plus cover one others on a lot of occasions, Ox Giroud and Debuchy can hold their own in 8/10 games but can't carry extra weight too.
You can only get away with 2 of Gibbs Merts Ramsey Jack Danny Flamini Arteta all playing in the same title challenging team as they all need carrying quite often and struggle to hold their own.
Carzola been in good form of late and Mesut played in the right position are may be's.
In short to few top quality players to carry too many fairly decent players to a title

In simple terms what I'm trying to say is city and chavs have enough quality players to quite probably carry Ramsey and Gibbs to a title but would struggle to carry Merts Gibbs and Ramsey all playing at one time on a regular basis to a title.
We have too many players in the making and not enough ready to serve at the top table

02 Jan 2015 23:46:52
Rambo was the star plAyer last season - bit tough on him

It's a team game where everyone has their place. per is quality if in the correct back 4, Ozil is the same if he plays in the right role

I get your point but the best team wins not the best set of individuals

Totally agree I'm being harsh on Ramsey SY mate but being generous has proven futile to date, its time to raise the stakes and expectations on and of all players if we're to ever move forward.
Its now or never time for Arsene and many players

02 Jan 2015 17:14:52
HAPPY NEW YEAR

02 Jan 2015 19:33:04
Blwyddyn Newwyd dda mate.

Dags
you need to stop using goole translate

03 Jan 2015 10:22:16
Did I write it in Welsh?

Sorry mate, I just randomly hit the keys and hoped for the best, lol.

What's goole translate is the welsh version of google?

02 Jan 2015 17:07:41
Be honest,

Who's getting their hopes up that we do well in January Window?

02 Jan 2015 18:26:09
Me Dags,
Hopefully we need a pick me up,I don't think I have had a worse start to the year

He should have gone 3 years ago, dignity has gone as well, it's too late now for a change this season.
A period in the doldrums awaits,

02 Jan 2015 16:12:29
Official, this is the worst start to the season so far since wenger took charge. Do we really need any more evidence the guy can't cut it no more. No other season after 20 games have we had less points. The evidence is damming and the results are shameful. We are going backwards officially, regardless of what peoples views are.

Steve
Dont you think we need to judge at the end of the season

Welsh I judged him at the end of every season, I have stated many times my reasons and I have seen nothingvto change my mind. I know you will say but look what he has done and no person could do what he has. Well as far as i'm concerned he's done nothing that no other manager could have done. We have had the finances even in the last ten years to keep us in the top 4, we are richer than most clubs in the prem, idont think it is an exceptional acievement to have kept us above spurs, liverpool, Everton Newcastle, villa, West ham, etc. We now have even more finance and that on its own with all the amateurish things we are seeing going on on the field and mistakes in mismanagement, I honestly think any decent manager with a good tactical brain, with what he has at his disposal, would do a better job. I honestly think wenger is now out of his depth.

After saying all that, he will not be leaving.

02 Jan 2015 19:39:05
Good post Steve.

I'm still pro Wenger (just) but its hard to disagree with anything you just said.

Dag's u make me laugh. I'd want you on the jury in my case.

People are dead blood on my hands DNA everywhere but because I visited the rspca once with blankets you would let me off LOL

The Wenger evidence is there believe it mate

Well steve what do u expect with the injuries we have, when there is literally no one in midfield to help carzola

02 Jan 2015 21:44:46
Lol, I like that Derby.

Cracked me up :-)

Thehood i'm sorry but this many injuries every year there has to be something fundamentally wrong with training methods or recovery programs. every year we fail because of injuries and lacked a couple signings there's not many people to point the finger at for that

02 Jan 2015 13:53:14
Re yesterdays game/result, very disappointed in Szczesney but then again, why should we be surprised? He's a liability, has been even when we are winning and when he's playing well. Imo we have never replaced Lehman and until we do, we will never compete or win major championships. Great goalkeepers (generally) evolve with age, Szczesney is a good keeper and can play very well when he's shot stopping but like all young players, he's prone to errors and bad judgement. Wenger is persevering with him at the cost of results (and us), Ospina deserves a shot but in all honesty, we need to dig deep and buy an established, international class keeper from one of the top leagues.

Mert should go at the end of the season. I admire his attitude but he's been shown up both at club level and in the WC (when dropped for the latter stages and final) and is imo only in the team due to the lack of depth, experience and leadership at the club. I can't really fault Gibbs and Kos and Debuchy are international standard however imagine a Hummels, Kompany or Thiago Silva with Kos and a quality keeper behind them, the spine is drastically stronger.

Chambers was very subdued yesterday but I think I'm right in saying he played a large chunk of his short career Southampton as a DM. Its hard to say what role AW has in mind for him but imo he has the ability, strength and physique to be a very good holding player. Coquelin isn't the answer but to see a naturally defensive midfielder in the team shows up the problem we've all been shouting about for years now. Again, I think Gilberto Silva was the last player of quality we've had in that position, another AW has failed to replace.

Lastly, I think its a fact that we've converted the least amount of shots per Premiership team this season. Giroud has been out and Welbeck isn't a poacher, that explains a lot of the problem but I also think all our best attacking work is done outside the box. I'm thnking Sanchez cutting inside, Ox running at the full backs, we don't get the ball into feet enough in the penalty area. Wilshire out so often also effects this, he carries the ball and attacks the box. We brought on Walcott and Akpom but again, Theo does his best work running behind from wide positions and Akpom won't look good unless balls are played into feet, its a tactical issue, not personnel. If we end up buying Cavani, personally I think its a massive amount of money in the wrong area.

So, a long post which basically says replace Szczesney and a new center half and CDM, have I just re-invented the wheel?!

/Son1ka

02 Jan 2015 19:40:45
Good post.

02 Jan 2015 10:52:09
It's horrible too see my beloved club just falling apart, yeah we have injuries but it's no longer an excuse.

I honestly think this is arsenes last transfer window, if he balls this up then he's lost all my support, I don't want to be like this but if he doesn't address the issues that seriously need addressing then he doesn't support our club anymore.

Let's hope he has a good window aye .

Our players have become complacent lack any disapline and at times down right lazy.
New blood may give some a much needed kick up the jack and those it doesn't need to be gone asap.our club is full of mediocrity from top to bottom.
The whole mentality needs changing, new manger? Very likely that's what it will take but for now Arsene is in the last chance saloon

I gave up on him years ago. Wouldn't stump up an extra 4mill for Cahill. He sticks to his valuations always even when others can see he should just pay the money

02 Jan 2015 01:00:41
Happy New Year Eds

How many players do you expect Wenger to buy in the January transfer market?

Wenger has discussed the possibility of loaning out Sanogo and selling Podolski. With that in mind, would you be surprised if he got a striker this January? I would think a defensive midfielder and a centerback are our priorities.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect you have it about right.}