Arsenal Banter Archive January 03 2016

03 Jan 2016 18:08:00
Our form has not been great let's face it, but guaranga bless Cech and the rest for hanging in there, top of the table is a pleasant surprise, just ask Steve.

However, its time to unleash the Cracken, that's right Alexis sanchez back for Liverpool should be a big statement game, so looking forward to it!

03 Jan 2016 21:00:31
The fact we haven't missed our best player (arguably) , is testament to Wenger and the rest of the team.

Come on you anti-Wenger brigade, how about a bit of praise for Le Boss?

03 Jan 2016 21:30:19
Dags mate you are truly wasting your time, It would literally kill some Arsenal fans to give Wenger a smidgen of credit for anything.

I'm just thankful that Clough, Shankly, Robson, Busby and probably the greatest manager ever, Bob Paisely are not still about otherwise we'd be strictly mid table.

I actually heard two supposed supporters on the radio the other week saying even if we win the league he should leave. Really.

03 Jan 2016 21:36:23
Hes does deserve credit of course. I still look back at the day arteta got injured and le coq came back as a moment the penny dropped. Arteta staus fit dred to think where we would be now

And the other biggest moment is cech leaving and staying in London. I honestly think no keeper comes in other wise.

That's said it happen and we are In great shape.

03 Jan 2016 21:47:15
It would be futile for me to knock wenger. I've stated my problem with the guy, i still don't have faith in himbut he will get my praise when he achieves the goal to its end. I just hope he does.

03 Jan 2016 21:47:26
Red the thing is as much as some want him gone whatever others want him to stay whatever, there are extremists on both side's for sure.
Are we top of the league dispite Arsene? Of course not credit where it due but hand in hand with that goes the responsibility if we should fade away again this season.
He has built a very good team but he has and continues to make some very strange decisions too.

03 Jan 2016 22:03:33
Absolutely Red Dog,
It's not easy being a manager. You have a job to do, you pick a team based on your opinion and availability of players, amongst the backdrop of keeping players happy, as well as the board and to a lesser extent, the fans.

Agree with above opinions too, but he deserves praise for the way things are going at present.

I just think (mentioning no names, as I'm not necessarily talking about posters on here) , but if you are going to knock the guy for failures, than praise him if things are going well.

03 Jan 2016 22:23:46
I will give you that dags, he deserves praise for where we are at present, but that really goes without saying. But then when he gets slated for bad results, people knock you for that. It doesn't really matter what i say, what gunner says what dags says what red dog says, it is only opinion and it will have no bearing on our position at the end of the season. We will either succeed or fail. I've said it before, i don't think he is upto it, but i want him to succeed., my doubts will have no bearing at all.

03 Jan 2016 22:35:58
Agree with what you are saying Steve.

Let me ask you something.
What would you do in Jan Transfer Window if you were manager?

03 Jan 2016 22:50:54
I appreciate that 62 but it just seems so crazy towards a guy who has given us so much more good stuff than bad.

We can all see errors and we can get frustrated but it really is as if it would kill some to be positive towards Wenger under any terms.

As you rightly say Steve, it is opinions and I will totally agree with errors made by Wenger and there have been a few but he has built the vast majority of a great squad and deserves credit. We all I think know that winning the league is the real yard stick of where exactly we are.

After 20 games last season Chelsea were lauded as the bees knees with 46pts, we have 42pts after this terrible start so we really are not that poor.

I also don't believe as I'm sure I said before that the league is weaker, there are a way bigger number of teams who have upped there games compared to the two that haven't, in United and Chelsea.

03 Jan 2016 22:51:05
Was Arsene right to play Sanchez against Norwich? Or not play a full side in our first two champions league games? or not buy an outfield player in the summer window?
But we are top of the league!
Let's just be honest about things rather than ignore the pros and cons either way.

03 Jan 2016 22:51:37
Dags i don't know who really is available, but if i could get vardy or aubameyang, i would and either carvalho kravoiak ( what ever his name ) or wanyama or tiote. I think wenger could get his name up in lights then dags. My point is a strong pacey striker and a midfield destroyer.

{Ed025's Note - dortmund want 60m euro for aubameyang steve...so you can rule that one out mate..

03 Jan 2016 23:12:17
What price are todays big time winners, if you need one or two positions filling to win leagues you have to spend nowadays ed. Otherwise you don't win.

{Ed025's Note - fair point steve..

03 Jan 2016 23:15:23
Ed can we do a straight swap lakaku for giroud. I think giroud would be good for you and lakaku would be good for us. lol.

{Ed025's Note - i like giroud steve...but no mate..

03 Jan 2016 23:26:30
Keep it realistic Steve, lol.
Trust me, Elneny will be a big hit at Arsenal. Haven't seen him play, but all the experts are saying he is suited to Arsenal, and he is exactly the player we need.
As for a striker, you won't get anybody decent in January, but I still think we should stump up £9m for Charlie Austin.

G62,
You are correct, but we have got this far, obviously time will tell.

Good point Red Dog,
Other teams have improved, so that counter balances Chelsea and Utd's indifferent form.

04 Jan 2016 00:39:07
Steve,
We buy very well in midfield at a reasonable price and blow 50m on aubameyang.
Would love to see it happen as the pace up front would help at both ends of the pitch. Ozil would have a field day with assists!
Fingers crossed
Would have loved Griezmann but I guess Martinez has shown its not always worth the gamble on a big name.

Wenger deserves a lot of credit - agreed.

04 Jan 2016 09:53:14
Jackson Martinez? Never convinced me and is 30 soon ain't he? Greizmann would take the prem by storm I believe.

03 Jan 2016 09:45:44
Is isco really available for 30mill. Absolute steel that.

Aubeymeng spell check please. If they want 42mill pay it. Would love him.

03 Jan 2016 10:29:39
Isco, bojan don't need these players where will you play them ahead of ozil, no. ahead of Sanchez no. what we we need is a natural goal scorer with pace . higuin. holding midfielder. maybe a winger with genunie pace or Patrick aubemeng be ok, he would be able to play outside and lead the line. feel Gabriel is the real deal just need to get his chance.

03 Jan 2016 10:37:38
Isco flatters to deceive. Let him go to - no no, no na no no.

03 Jan 2016 10:56:57
Id play isco left. Ozil centre. Sanchez right. He's an excellent player.

03 Jan 2016 12:00:47
Derby he hasn't the pace to play left I feel. he small and good with the ball, but we have to many players like that carzola, ozil, Ramsey, whilshire. id spend the 30-35m in other areas mate. he hardly pulled up an trees at Madrid. let him sit on city bench.

03 Jan 2016 10:20:39
God knows about quoted prices but if they are available they would strengthen any side, I like aubamayang, think his style of play would fit right in, he's the sort of striker who would make the most of ozil.

03 Jan 2016 17:14:07
Derby,
I know its 2016 but that's the year mate, not the amount of players you want to see in an Arsenal shirt :-)

03 Jan 2016 18:01:45
Cazorla is 31 this year i believe, how about we start signing players just before we need them rather than wait and moan for years that we never replaced a player when needed?
In my opinion Isco would be a perfect replacement for Cazorla.

{Ed002's Note - Right now Arsenal has no interest in Isco but it is not out of the question that Arsenal could look again.}

03 Jan 2016 18:20:06
The problem is I'm sure wenger sees Ramsey as his successor! Hence Ramsey out wide when cazorla is fit! If we got someone like Isco what would that mean for Ramsey? Don't get me wrong I'm all for getting a player like Isco.

03 Jan 2016 18:59:13
Ramsey all day long over isco. proven in prem. scores more goals. sometimes we rate players over the good ones we have at the club already.

03 Jan 2016 18:59:38
Aubamayang would be excellent, pay whatever for him. If Isco is going cheap then why not, people are talking about where he fits in but let's face it we're never going to be injury free are we.

03 Jan 2016 20:17:01
Ramsey is not a rival to isco. Different players. Both class.

Id play Ramsey over cazorla always. Were no worse from Ramsey back In the middle.

03 Jan 2016 20:35:07
Totally agree with you. ramsey should play centre and in my opinion be captain.

03 Jan 2016 19:49:31
That's right lime and yeah good point about Ramsey, Ramsey wants to play in the middle but really wants ozils position and when he is supposed to be a little deeper and especially when with flamini we loose all control over the center of the park, cazorla is more mature and will stay deeper if needed and retain possession and keep the ball and can spring forward but Ramsey runs beyond the CF to get into the box!

For me Ramsey is better out wide for the lack of been able to control himself (I know that will blow some of your minds) so in short Ramsey is great but he can't play cazorlas possition as well as cazorla and he can't play ozils possition as well as Ozil so what you do with him! Isco would play cazorla possition better than Ramsey (in theory) but not ozils possition as well as Ramsey (in theory)

Ramsey is in a bit of a funny possition at the moment because he is best to the team out right and if he is happy to play slightly deeper when caz moves on he needs a strong DM with him at all times.

04 Jan 2016 03:09:47
Isco is/ could be a direct replacement for Cazorla in the role he has had since Arsene changed our style after stumbling across Le Coq (fair play to Wenger for realising it could work so well) but Ramsey I'm afraid just can not do the same job no matter how much i love the guy.
For me if we want to keep that style which has been so affective we need someone to replace Caz when he does go, our performances since he has been injured says it all, yes we have won games and are top but we really haven't blown anyone away, we have labored to wins which is good in itself but can't go on forever.

03 Jan 2016 01:30:32
If Bojan really is available for 10mil, would you be tempted?

02 Jan 2016 23:49:26
Today's game is reason enough not to sign Wanyama!

03 Jan 2016 00:33:57
NEG,
You can't always judge a player on one game mate.
Kos the Boss was terrible at Southampton.
But I do think Wanyama is not as good since Schneiderlin left.

03 Jan 2016 09:04:06
Kos was exhausted.

03 Jan 2016 09:44:53
Fags Morgan hasn't been as good since he hasn't had Wanyama with him. That partnership was very very good.

03 Jan 2016 09:48:31
You could say that about every player in the league if your going to judge them on one performance

Wanyama is a very good player, and in a better team you'd see the best of him.

03 Jan 2016 10:34:32
Fags omg. Eds you could of change it to dags : ( don't hate people sorry lol. .

03 Jan 2016 12:15:41
Bloody bags, lol.

03 Jan 2016 14:24:22
Fags? :) 20 embassy pls, are they cheap.? :) :)
COYG andi.

03 Jan 2016 15:10:10
He was brash and he does have moments like that on occasion. Albeit I do like a player who throws tackles in with no half measures. I'm just not too keen on him Dags, I don't think he's well suited to the position we'd be playing him in. Next to Le Coq, yes, but not as the holding midfielder we need. We have enough players in that position (that I would want him to play in) .

03 Jan 2016 15:27:21
NEG, he is a very good player to be fair.