Arsenal Banter Archive February 08 2015

08 Feb 2015 19:28:07
2015 has seen many more positives than negatives so far
Le Coq emergence
Carzola new found heroics
Ozil 3 goals in 3 games
Arsene buying two player's in January both for the positions most needed
Arsene has finally become tactically adaptable

Yesterday was a set back of course but the good so far out weights the bad by some distance since he turn of the year

Nice post gunger69

Thanks 442

Ok i'm going to give a bit. If we win the champions league or the prem this season, or both, I will give wenger another season. Its all positive.

I don't thnk you can say fairer than that Steve mate

Nice Steve, but how about if we finish third, win the fa cup, sign schneiderlin and a world class striker?

Steve

That is funnier than any joke Dags has posted :)

337

I actually might. . . . . . just might settle for that

Im sorry at this stage I've all but given in, so it's up to the boss now. let's jist see if he can do it, i'm not compromising yet. I've already given myvright arm.

08 Feb 2015 23:04:27
Leave my jokes alone, lol.

By the way 337 you have no faith, shame on you.

Steve who's this myvright? is he any good? is he Russian? lol

337, sausage fingers.

No need to call me that!

08 Feb 2015 18:50:11
Must say jenko is developing well at the hammers, great contest between him and shaw, and I thought he just edged due to shaws daft red card. Feel good for the lad.

Love Jenks and really pleased for him this move has gone so well, he's proved many of his critics wrong.
Sadly I think we've seen the last of Jenks in an Arsenal shirt

Gunner if wenger sells him, he wants shooting, he's young, willing and has ability, you can see that. Plus bigvsam will have given him some decent defensive coaching.

I agree Steve but don't think well have that much chioce, in August Jenks lived and breathed all things Arsenal but I don't think a England call up is far away for him and he will find it difficult to come back as 2nd or even 3rd choice

Trouble is Steve he is well down the pecking order here at Arsenal now .

I hope West Ham United take him on, he has done very well at West Ham

Who would people prefer bellerin or jenks?

08 Feb 2015 15:18:18
Ospina good shot stopper and comes and takes the ball well at set pieces, but is he a title winning keeper?
Personally I'd say a great No.2to have but we need a lot safer pair of hands to withstand the demands of a real title challenge

G5TR1NG "Good shot stopper and takes the ball well at set pieces"

What else do you want him to do, dance well? Maybe drive like the stig? or possibly tell jokes? :-)

If he stays around Shezza and JW will show him how to smoke 40 a day.

I know it sounds a bit picky 728 but I'd like it if he could maybe put the ball out of the danger area when he makes saves, looks like he has some brilliant saves in him but he may well have to make a lot of double and triple saves in each attack.
Also his hair? Is it really Arsenal first team standard?

I agree with G62, a great keeper wins your points. A good keeper just does his job. I don't see ospina as our no1 next season.

Still think Shezza has the potential to be great. Technically he's a brilliant keeper. But his lack of concentration and poor attitude cost him. If he doesn't fix up by the end of the season then a no1 should be top of the shopping list

08 Feb 2015 16:37:46
337,

Although, those are important aspects of a keeper, I do not think that checks all the boxes.

A top keeper will:

1. Be a good and consistent shot stopper (no soft goals);

2. Be commanding when collecting the ball (from corners etc.);

3. Organize the Defence (and give them confidence that he will stop long range shots etc.);

4. Will be an accurate and quick distributor of the ball (start the attack);

5. Will have great rebound control (that's what we call it in hockey being Canadian, I am not sure if you use the same term), you need to control where the ball goes if you are not collecting it so that it either falls to one of your teammates, goes out of bounds, or ends up somewhere harmless;

6. Be good at reading when and be decisive in getting off your line to snuff out danger before it begins; and

7. Have a high football IQ (know when to speed up the game, slow it down, know how to marshal your defence, ensure that the team has the proper formation, read the runs of the strikers, midfielders, determine when to come off your line and when to stay put, set up a proper wall).

Now, to be fair there is too small a sample size to see if Ospina meets all these criteria and he has done fairly well.

BUT against Tottenham I was a bit concerned by his rebound control.

I guess we will see if he ticks the boxes in the future, but I am always surprised that there is not more of an appreciation for the art of goalkeeping by knowledgeable fans of which I count you as one 337 (and to be fair the criticism of Ospina is a bit premature he has only conceded two goals; one of which he is totally blameless for conceding).

I just want to defend Keepers, I think a good keeper is worth at least 10 points a season, and since Chelsea, Utd (and Tott) have three of the best keepers in the world, we have to make sure we do as well. Much like in Hockey having a world class keeper can be the difference in winning a title and ending up with nothing.

Neither of them should be our number1. We never replaced seaman.

G69, I think Arteta is coaching him on hair styling but because he is injured they can't risk a set back so it's on "firm hold" at the moment

And jimmyr, does that mean that dancing, driving and telling jokes are not important?

We have been going round in circles with shez, he may or may not end up being a top keeper, but not at arsenal. We give players too many chances to prove themselves and we are paying the price. Top teams can't afford to give aprenticeships or trials to see if they can make it. Usually if they don't hit the ground running, they dont. But we keep playing and playing your denilsons, bentner s, djurous, senderos, santos, almunias etc, when every man and his dog can see they are not good enough. But how much game time do these players get before they are outed, too much.

Well I don't think Scz is that bad, its no fluke that he won the golden glove last season. As someone said he lacks concentration, this season he has forgotten the basics and is trying to emulate neuer, by being a sweeper. I would still play him, now that the def looks settled. Anyone for Gabreil against lecister.

Hood the question is do uyou think he is a keeper who will win leagues and major trophies, if he lacks concentration and is prone to rushes of blood.

Hood I think gabriel is having a crash course in English with paul merson. Well cockney, god help him. Then he might play.

08 Feb 2015 10:50:46
The Hood

Maths is a weak point then?

:) x

Really how? as I said it is 7 points difference between 2nd and 6th, which is 2 games (a little over I know that so don't waste your time coming back on that one). We have a run on games from now till end of march which are all winnable. Anything else Moaner?

No BG, it seems that there is a new ruling for the rest of the season that arsenal should get 3.5 points for a win, I know because I petitioned for it :-)

Hood, he (or she) did put a smiley face and a kiss, give him (or her) a break, I don't get those he (or she) must like you. :-)