Arsenal Rumours Archive November 19 2012

19 Nov 2012 15:27:59
edoo2 i heard something interesting the weekend and i wanted to ask your opinion on it.

i was told the reason we dropped interest in m'vila was to do with disciplinary hearing and wenger did not want him going up in front of the french football federation with arsenal being his club.
when i first heard this i just brushed it aside as BS but if you think about it,it is something the club would not like to be associated with.

i was all so told he will be an arsenal player come january now that the hearing and punishment has been handed out.

any chance you could keep an eye out for any info?
thanks mate

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - I can help a little and certainly clarify what was told to you. The recent issue and charge which has resulted in the lengthy ban is nothing to do with this hearing. The events leading to this matter to place in mid October long after the transfer window had closed. My understanding is that what made Arsenal nervous during the transfer window was a previous issue that caused concerns at the Euros. With the concerns over M'Vila and the departure of Song I am reliably informed that the target became Wanyama and that the deal was expected to be completed - but wasn't. If anything crops up I will let you know.}

Thanks oo2,its just a shame,i have been following this boy for a couple of years and he would have been a typical wenger target that in my opinion would have turned out to be world class.

just quickly ed i know your busy.
you mentioned wanyama is there still a chance and if not can you see us going for a dm?

cheers

champagne charlie {Ed002's Note - Wanyama's profile has increased in recent months and the time to make a grab for him was clearly in the summer - now I am not so sure. I also would not rule out M'Vila moving entirely.}

19 Nov 2012 12:22:25
my mate at ajax has heard in the dutch press today that arsenal are in for ajax gk Kenneth Vermeer. any news or just a rumour? Thanks {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}

Cheers ED002 thought it was a rumour tbh but thought id find out.

Hope it's a rumour, the guys a liability.

D

19 Nov 2012 09:57:39
Come across a bit of news over the weekend, thought I'd share, believe it if you wish.
I'm a journalist by trade and also doing training to become an agent so have good contacts in both industries.
Over the weekend I had meetings with a top agent who has players at AFC and a AFC correspondent for one of the bigger UK papers.
Anyway I discussed Walcott with them here's what they had to say:
Agent:
Liverpool have offered him 100k a week he's very keen, they want him in Jan and don't mind paying a fee, he wants to go in the summer to get a huge signing on fee.
Journo:
Arsenal will not budge from their 75k per week offer, he believes Man City will take him in the summer with a huge signing on fee and wage offered.
I'm just passing on what I've been told.
The freelancer

If Liverpool have already offered him a contract before he has six months left then isn't that considered 'tapping-up'? {Ed002's Note - Well, Liverpool may speak with his agent but not with the player. They are not able to speak to him in January without permission of the club either as the 6 month rule only applies to foreign sides.}

IF either of these comments are true then it is time for Arsenal to wake up and smell the coffee.
It's all very well having principles and of course it is recommended to show some prudence in business, but whoever it is who is showing such intransigence towards walcott over his demands is now passed the point of being stoic and crossed into beligerence and stubborness. Meeting Walcott somewhere in the middle - a new contract now at say �90k with a performance review, scheduled re-negotiation, plus a "re-signing on" fee would surely not be beyond the bounds of reason? Whether we like it or not -a nd I've been one who has tired of Walcotts inconsistency - the whole of this saga has taken on a greater significance than ever in the light of the other embarrassing contract negotiations (Gazidis: "now, lemme see, what was I supposed to be doing today/this year....hmmm, major players coming to the end of their contracts. Right so it's me prioritising my career and profile first, Nasri, Van Persie and any other players with a year to run second") - we need to make a stand, plus we could do with another striker to support Giroud/have a Plan B. Oh, we've got one! Theo!

SORT THIS OUT ARSENAL, PLEASE.
Max Farnham {Ed002's Note - Obviously there remains a chance that Walcott will leave eitehr in January for a fee or in the summer. However, I think you can rest assured that the original poster was teasing you. I don't know of any journalists who would refer to themselves or others as a "journo". Additionally, there is no "training" to become an agent.}

Bet you haven't been told this...or if you have it was people you made up

Utter tripe.

From what i heard at LC today, Theo will sign, but this will all depend on whether Mr Wenger adds a few more bodies to the squad. He loves the club, and contary to what the papers say, he is not driven by money. He just wants assurances, on whether AFC can compete with the best in the PL.

If you have never heard of a journalist refer to themselves or anyone else in the industry as a journo then frankly you don't know any in the field journalists. In regards to the agent work your correct there is no formal training or FA course but there is an exam. The exam has two windows it can be taken in, we are not currently in one of the windows.For that reason I am currently shadowing an agent who I know through my journalism work. When I come to do the exam I will already know the ins and outs of the industry so the exam won't be too much trouble. Finally its naïve to think Liverpool haven't contacted Walcott because he has more than six months to run on his contract. If they did It then correct it would be illegal but there are many options to get around this, to be honest I've offered you info the majority have chosen not to believe it that's fine I'm a sceptic myself, I just dislike being called a liar or any of the other things I've been called in the above comments. {Ed002's Note - I know rather a lot of people in journalism and as I said none would use the term "journo". Additionally you stated that you were "doing training to become an agent" - there is no training; it is complete BS. Whatever you have read on the exam is BS as well - it is nothing to do with the "industry" but is to do with the FA rules and regulations. If you are making such a serious allegation about Liverpool as the tapping up of a player you will also know that you should report the matter. Sadly, the reality is a long way off. Perhaps you should have this "top agent" (whatever the hell that is) you are "shadowing" explain the six month rule to you.}

Sports agents always tell journalists that big clubs are interested, and they alway tell journalists that those clubs are offering what their client wants. The journalists put it in the papers. We read it. We make a stink. This is supposed to make the manager make a move, or make the other clubs become a little interested. It's how sports agents work. You generate interest in your client by telling lies, and hoping they become true.