Arsenal Banter Archive April 16 2013

 

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16 Apr 2013 23:34:46
I think the ins this season will be Ashley Williams, Simon Mignolet, Loic Remy, Wanyama and possibly Goetze. Should come up to around 60 million.

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IMO don't need Williams unless someone leaves (and we should aim higher anyway). Remy again is he better than Giroud? Goetze, Mignolet and Wanyama would be good though.

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16 Apr 2013 22:55:49
This match just shows us that whilst Giroud works hard and gets in the right positions,
We don't have that one chance = one goal striker that we need, especially in games like these where chances are limited.

Van Persie was that, and we lost him.

Last year with Van Persie, we won 1-0. He only needed one chance and he took it.

Giroud, Podolski and Walcott are all good. But good strikers don't win you titles, the best ones do.

Nick.

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Maybe maybe not. It's easy to say in hindsight that RVP would have scored that chance but you just don't know. RVP missed plenty of chances for us aswell. I understand what you saying mind if your betting man united would not confidently back Giroud in a one on one with keeper like you would RVP. For me it is still too early to judge Giroud for his overall contribution, I do think he needs a partner with 2 up front.

What annoys me with our forwards is the lack of urgency and drive to get on the end of crosses into the box. There were two clear opportunties tonight (Cazorla and Gibbs) that were screaming for a forward to take a gamble and drive to into the box and get a clear sight on goal, they would have been almost tap ins really if someone had gambled. Platt and Lundburg used to be brilliant at that for us back in the day running deeper from midfield into the box.

Weather its Wenger's training or what I do not know but there is always a tendancy to sit on the edge of the box when the ball is wide, why?.

We miss out on quite a few good scoring chances because of this. We are still looking for that real box predator forward that would naturally do this and take the risk that the cross will come in low near post of to the back post.

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Rvp missed plenty

Not sure we have had a 1 shot = 1 goal striker since Wrighty to be honest

Robbie and Freddie were awesome with late runs to pick up goals and help the strikers

The way we play - not sure we can afford a fox in the box as we ask a lot from the front guy.

I agree though as too early to judge but I like what I see but he is better as in a 442 set up and need a little more pace plus killer instinct up front to feed off the big guy

SY4

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THIERRY HENRY was just as good, if not better finisher than wrighty

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Giroud is not good enough the season has proved that needs far to many chances to score. The first game of the season proved that.

Send him back to the French league.

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Ok so giroud didn't take his chances and he should of easiley taken the one towardes the end of the 1st half and the one in the second half, but its still his first season and has scored 16 goals for us- I personally don't like one up top we should go back to 4-4-2 pod an giroud or pod and theo up front with ox and gervinho on the wings, and why don't we have runners in the box any more, when we had the invincibles if henry didn't get it pires would if he didn't freddie would bergkamp ect

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"Send him back to the French league" - really?

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16 Apr 2013 22:44:05
In the end, I think we can all agree that it wasnt a good result, but I wouldn't call it a bad result either. Everton have been excellent all season and on another day, the Pienaar chance early on or Barkeley's chance which was inches away could have gone in and we could have struggled to get back.

I think for the past 2 home games, we haven't been great, with Jack a bit off the pace and many others below par. I personally don't think Jack and Theo should have started, and Cazorla is no good on the left.

However I feel the referee was abysmal and really should have sent Gibson off, but I think its a hard-earned point against a really good Everton team, and must say Fellaini and Jagielka were outstanding.

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16 Apr 2013 22:44:05
In the end, I think we can all agree that it wasnt a good result, but I wouldn't call it a bad result either. Everton have been excellent all season and on another day, the Pienaar chance early on or Barkeley's chance which was inches away could have gone in and we could have struggled to get back.

I think for the past 2 home games, we haven't been great, with Jack a bit off the pace and many others below par. I personally don't think Jack and Theo should have started, and Cazorla is no good on the left.

However I feel the referee was abysmal and really should have sent Gibson off, but I think its a hard-earned point against a really good Everton team, and must say Fellaini and Jagielka were outstanding.

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16 Apr 2013 22:23:54
Apparently Poldoski needs an operation and Arsenal are giving him injection to get through each game and have delayed the operation til the end of the season. This is why Wenger is bring him on every game. I wouldn't expect him to start again this season

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16 Apr 2013 22:09:07
does no one else think Jack had a bad game? Walcott and him should never have been allowed to walk back into the team after the weekend,

maybe as substitutes to shore us up second half;

> why wasn't Cazorla shifted to middle sooner/started the game in the middle
> why did Walcott start, tbh he did nothing apart from some good bursts of pace
> Jack should have been taken off at half time
> Rosicky? (if he was fit, not too sure if he was)

I mean did you see how the game changed as soon as Cazorla was moved and subs were made?
imagine if we had started the match like that, penning Everton back in their own half
like they were doing to US for most the match

VERY GOOD GAME THOUGH! me and my dad were singing and all at home haha

sorry, but not sorry for my unpopular opinions, if I had any there

PdotY

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Great post. jack needs to play simple balls as we don't have players making the right runs anymore. don't like him going down after every challange. walcott is too light wieght we don't need him. we were showen up tonight by an average team that we used to beat by three or more goals, look at past scores. most of midfield are played out of possition and gourd (spelling) is rubbish. once again empty seats. says it all really. overall poor performance I felt three points were there for the taking tonight.

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Wilshere was up against fellaini one of the strongest midfield powerhouse's of the BPL that explains why he was on the floor and walcott gives us pace which is huge factor in football and santi carzola just leaves me gobsmacked he's unreal we need to sign a few more players like him only thing I was dissapointed in was we had a few good chances to shoot but choose not and pass and of course can't forget giroud misses

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Then why was Jack playing an an advanced attacking role? if he was going to be kept being shut down by Fellaini we should have pushed him back with Arteta/Ramsey

also seems like it's impossible to fully mark Cazorla on his day, did you see how many tight situations he got out of? unbelievable,

true about pace but when we're not exploiting Evertons back fours lack of it we're playing stupid! At one point Pods drifted in the middle and nearly scored, and he's no Walcott, if Walcott drifted in middle with Cazorla/Wilshere putting him in I reckon we would have scored,

PdotY

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16 Apr 2013 22:08:36
giroud should be on the bench he's a hardworker but he's not good enough to start arteta allways gives fouls away in dangerous positions he needs to be benched aswell Walcott well he was pathetic carzola was quality great skills from the little man hope we finish in the top 4 so we can get the players we need.

a world class striker
world class holding player
world class wide man

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16 Apr 2013 22:07:03
You all disagreed with me, I wonder now if your opinions have changed.

CheetahChaz97

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16 Apr 2013 22:07:02
Who would you want more at Arsenal?

Lewandowski click Believable
Jovetic click unbelievable

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That would work, if the buttons were still there.

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16 Apr 2013 21:51:08
Rambo was my MOM

Well played son and two fingers up to the doubters

Effort, pride and quality all match - quality game.

SY4

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That's one tough mom!

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16 Apr 2013 21:48:08
This game had 0-0 written all over it from the start. Disappointed to say the least. For me the only positive was Aaron Ramsey who was sensational to say the least.
89'gooner

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What a laugh, if Ramsey played for everton we would pay +20m for him, instead the supporters slag him - let's go ramsey!

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16 Apr 2013 21:46:56
Wow I was on the edge of my seat throughout. I thought Ramsey was excellent, Cazorla frigging spectacular, wish Ox would have shot on that one. I thought we played a great second half not a terrible result I still think we have the inside track to third or fourth.

Darren Tampa

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You can see why chamberlain doesn't score goals, he totally bottled out on that opportunity, and tried to make a pass that had literally no chance of making it to giroud. could have been a match winner.

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Good post couldn't have wrote it better myself

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16 Apr 2013 21:46:12
Well 0-0 full time which was a fair result overall in the end neither side did enough to win and create enough chance, although Giroud had that one great chance.

The midfield 3 combo just did not work tonight and although we had a few brief spells of good play Everton very much controlled our threat.

I just do understand why Podolski does not start on the left as he is more effective than Cazorla there. Yes Ramsey works his socks off but with Arteta the shield too much was left for the less the 100% Wilshire to produce that drive and creativity.

The game at Fulham is now even more vital that we get the 3 points if we drop points there Spurs have the advantage back.

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16 Apr 2013 21:45:34
I hate to keep saying it but if we had a world class center forward we would not be far off competing for the league

Limerick Gunner

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I think its time to let Pod play down the middle and give the OX a start

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Or more Rosicky?

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16 Apr 2013 21:45:27
in my opinion we only have 1 hard game left this season and that's man utd.

malaga gooner

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Think the Everton game was our hardest left. Man U have already won the title and have nothing really to play for.

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16 Apr 2013 21:41:15
Giroud you are worthless.

Tonight's performance was utter rubbish.

Give me back 2 hours of my life.

Arsene, you have no ambition and your players lack balls. Sir Alex is going to celebrate a crown on our pitch as we celebrate looking forward to Thursays because your French beauty of a striker lacks the proper balls to attack the goal

Points wasted, advantage gone

This is the most spineless group of players we have ever had. Everyone looks to the next guy to make the play. Utter garbage

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I don't agree everyone tried hard but we need a touch of class up front to win tight games.

Limerick Gunner

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That's a bit harsh, are Everton not unbeaten in last 12 games or something apart from our finishing we played well and are finishing has been poor all season so that's nothing we did nt already expect Everton are no pushovers!

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Hold up and just calm your s***!

We are still in with a big chance of getting top four, and this result didn't exactly damage that. Spurs still have Chelsea and City to play, I wouldn't worry too much about Everton and Chelsea could still drop points.

And stop blaming everything on Giroud. Yes, he missed a sitter but it wasn't just his fault that we didn't win.

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There was zero urgency.

Urgency is how Dortmund played the other day.

Rambo and Gibbs were class, everyone else was average.

Arteta's lack of pace gives up 3-4 set pieces a game to the opposition.

I would pay to have Song back.

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Us gooner

Why don't you just get behind the team?
We can slag the players off but they are our players and whining and moaning about them ain't going to help
We can all see where the problems are in the team but we can only pray that wenger fixes these problems in the summer
In the meantime get behind the team
Suffolk gooner

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17 Apr 2013 11:11:38
us gooner,
arsenal worked very hard to win the game, but didn't have the quality to find the back of the net. that's the reality. to say they are spineless, and that giroud is worthless is an extreme exaggeration of what we saw tonight.

i slated giroud for 90 minutes as well, but he doesn't pick the team, wenger does, so we can't blame giroud for being our striker. we just need a new one.

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16 Apr 2013 21:41:07
We did not drop points because we were outplayed, we dropped them because we have a striker who is rather over-rated.

The stats might favour him, but he is just not the man for big and important games.

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16 Apr 2013 21:40:59
Giroud is simply not good enough in front of goal. Look at this fixture last season, 0-0 until rvp and song linked up to score a wonder goal. We need a clinical finisher brought into the club, or alternatively just play podolski up front!

Quick shout out to Aaron Ramsey who again worked v. hard and was my personal motm.

Overall, disappointed.

Anhowa

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16 Apr 2013 21:40:16
Three points at Fulham is a must!

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16 Apr 2013 21:34:55
well lads
i am sorry for being negative.
podski awesome
arteta awesome, underrated!
ox, when he gets a chance, awesome
caz, played out of posn: (

now the rest?

giroud? : ( jeez, if you miss mate, try and win the ball back, don't just walk around
sagna?:) you going to get by the man with will power alone?

i get so frustrated watching the lads: ( this team can be AWESOME, if they all could gel, get it together.

4 mins, guess we'll be dropping points: (

COYG! andi

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Agree about sagna. good god. this player makes me pull out what little hair I have left. please get rid.

Also fair play to everton, a good side. if the last champs place comes down to spurs or toffees, I know what I'll be eating.

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16 Apr 2013 21:12:34
men against boys: (
are there 14 everton players, 7 of us? NO it is they are working harder, put more effort in, WANT it more than us.
AW, you could learn something from moysey? no, your to smug to do that, ain't you: (

anyway:) here's Podski on, get the Ox on as well

come on lads! wow, not good for the heart this: (

COYG! andi

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Men against boys?

Only one team in it for me

Poor final ball and poor shooting kept us out tonight

SY4

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16 Apr 2013 20:56:16
Keep up the work Ramsey

SY4

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16 Apr 2013 20:37:43
I have to say there isn't anything in the prem leauge that even comes close to jack Wiltshire in terms of midfield players he is just so far ahead of anything it's incredible!

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Not sure we are watching the same match, Rosicky should be on over him. He is far from his usual form

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Ye it's a general comment but you can see it in flash s tonight, he is only back from injury!

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16 Apr 2013 20:37:31
0-0 half time no real clear chances for either side but they are getting pretty physical and winning the midfield battle. The the 3 of Ramsey, Arteta and Wilshire does not work.

I would move Cazorla alongside Wilshire and bring Podolski out wide on for Ramsey. Or keep Ramsey on bring Rosicky on and go 4-5-1 to start winning that midfield battle.

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Why take off the hardest working midfielder?

Take Jack off if anything

SY4

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16 Apr 2013 20:35:34
Keep missing those sitters Giroud.

And let his defenders continue coddling him instead of calling him what he is, overrated.

Gibson is lucky to be on, but I'd rather we played to win than to get fouled

Fellaini and Barkley are class

So disappointed we continue playing like this in first halves. Arsene, do some damn coaching rather than moaning to refs

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16 Apr 2013 20:34:56
Get podolski on. NOW, he'd have buried that Giroud chance!

CheetahChaz97

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16 Apr 2013 20:17:58
Everton properly higlighting our lack of more tough tackling midfielders, it's like watching Arsenal play 11 Rooneys!

I wish we'd play like they do when we go away to big clubs, chase down every lost cause, and hound the opposition's creative players with three men everytime they get on the ball.

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16 Apr 2013 19:34:15
c'mon Wenger its clear Ramsey Arteta & Wilshere with Cazorla out wide does not work Caz needs to be in the midfield 3 doing the play-making wasted out wide.
did we not learn from Norwich? worried now. what's Ox and Lucas got to do to start?? {Ed027's Note - Add Rosicky to that list

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16 Apr 2013 19:23:52
A few surprises in the line up for me. After admitting that wilshe was rushed back from injury, wenger has started him again tonight. Gibbs has been picked ahead of monreal and szezney ahead of fabiabski who isn't even named on the bench, any one know why fabianski has been dropped again?Hopefully we can still get all 3 points but I expect a tough game!

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16 Apr 2013 19:12:30
mertesacker and shezney start gibbs also keeps his place would prefered monreal and vermaelen in the team today because i'm not a fan of per mertesacker he's slow and clumsy

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16 Apr 2013 19:07:02
Really fired up for tonight. going to be a great game and for me midfield is the key. Its games like this where a Capoue or Wanyama can earn their money and plaudits, taking on the athletic and technically gifted Fellaini is a tough job and we're going to need some mettle in there tonight.
Hopefully we see some cohesion in the final third, which has been so inconsistant all season, banging em in one week and failing to score the next. Would like to see poldi and rosicky with Caz in the middle and Giroud up top.
Coyg, going for a 2-1 us
AG

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16 Apr 2013 18:32:26
So, Spurs can reach a maximum of 76 points whilst Chelsea can reach a maximum of 79 points. Thus, 72 points should be enough for 3rd place, definetly for a top 4 finish.

So basically we should aim for 13 points in the next 5 games (I don't want any last game drama)- giving us room to drop points in a game.

Reckon we'll draw tonight, but still COYG!
Eman.

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16 Apr 2013 16:41:11
Proud to see Arsenal are holding a minutes silences for the victims of Boston tonight aswell as for the Hillsborough victims

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That's why we're arsenal. We do it the right way. COYG

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Well said plumber72

malaga gooner

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16 Apr 2013 15:28:01
D's squad report! Your thoughts?

When you look at your squad we have a really good team. We have game changing pacey subs, great youth players/facilites. We also have a better bench then balurs (spurs).

I would say were a better side then the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Man City on our day however, we never make it easyer for our self and win a large amount of home games and if you do we won't do very good away.

Gk pos:

Fab:Good but I'd say he's only bech standed however, he is doing a good job now awadays.

Szs:Very is good player but suffers from a lack of confidence and isn't a 'commander' to the back four plus he's not the sort of player who will kick the ball out to get rid off the ball when needed for example; He will turn/skill in the box.

-Summary: I feel we need a new goal keeper, some one like Begovic.

Fullbacks: Are good enough, good replacements. Also we have a amazing lb/rb called Hector B who could easy fit in the first team.

Centre Backs:

TV5:Good on his day but I feel we could do better. He's bench standed for him now since his run of shocking slipprey form.

BFG:Really like him now but his lack off speed is also a massive concren for me. If we a fast team we will get caught out fromset pieces and will leave us sort at the back.

Kos:He looks the man but we need to keep him from higher rakie clubs eg, PSG, BRY, BARCA. One bad thing about Kos is he isn't a consistent goal scoring header from set peices.

Summary: Bring in Ogbonna and sell Dj and Squid.

Mid/Wing:

We lack a CDM and Cam everyone else is fine.

Summary: I would use Ox as Cam, bring Wanyama and promote Serge Gnarby to a first team winger.
He's a spectacular talent.

Strike force:

Giroud is a very good target man but we need some like Jovetic to play off of him as a poacer. For example; Big man, little man combo.

Summary:Just need a real goal scoring poacer. I'd get rid off Parkchu and Bendtner. #Saving money.

By D the loyal AFC fan from young.

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Lack a CAM? Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere and Ox can play there DM bang on Wanyama would be good, I'd even be happy with Tiote a lot would argue he's gone down hill but I still rate him.

PM4 is a weird one he's massive but fragile I'd like him if he got some more muscle and strength and became more Samba esq. And dominated set pieces (which he should with that height)

what do you think with our wingers I'd like to see Ox Walcott as the starting two but then what to do with Podolski, would you get rid of gervinho, do we replace arshavin? promote youth Gnabry and ryo?

dandan

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As a gooner who lives in the north east, I have been dragged along to a few newcastle games and I can quite safely say that tiote is terrible. He cannot pass to save his life and slows down the play so much it is shocking. He's like phil neville without the good bits.
T dog

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Our cams: Caz, Rosicky.

Rosicky's too old on the other hand, he's good but not consistant enough for a top3 side. More of a teacher too the young and fringe player in my eyes. We have a really good talent to replace him in Thomas Elsifield.

Caz is a good cam but I prefer him deeper to play balls through without being closed down, hurried or touched. We should play Pod left mid and Ox through the middle. He's got everything. (Pace, Skills, Shots, Drib, corssing etc)

You can't class Wilshere as a cam. He's to important defensively to stay up top.

D

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16 Apr 2013 14:47:45
Hi Ed.

What happened to the agree / disagree buttons on the banter page? Did I miss something?

Anyway I am looking forward to a solid performance against Everton today. Hope Podolski is a starting player this time. Had a huge impact again last time. Same for Ox and Theo. If we can repeat the performance from the last 15 minutes against Norwich we shouldn't be too worried. :)

Come on Poldi! Grab a hattrick! {Ed002's Note - The buttons are away being polished.}

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I still think valdes/ vorm are the GK's we need. not because of the error prone nature of valdes but the ball distribution from the back is vital.

Sczesny and fabianski are unable to do it consistently. and de gea seems to be doing it well recently for utd.

vorm has spectacular distribution but it seems now barca are tracking him. I wonder why.

anyway begoic won't be a bad option but I feel he's not exactly a wenger target.

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16 Apr 2013 14:30:36
As big as a match gets. we cannot treat this like we did Norwich

We must score early and multiple times. They don't give up garbage goals so we can't expect that.

These points are vital. come on boys let em have it

Coyfg!

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16 Apr 2013 13:14:51
So Chucks Aneke? After hearing so much about this kid for the past couple of seasons, I was surprised to find out that his contract expires at the end if the season.

I had high hopes for this kid, and at 6"2 I thought he had a bigger chance of breaking into our midfiled.

Another Jay Emmanuel-Thomas is he?

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Wenger once described him as technically perfect I think. He hasn't set the world alight on loan either so its not looking good for him.

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16 Apr 2013 12:26:28
Well gunners should be a good game tonight I predict a narrow Everton win but only if the linesman and referee don't look at the line and see your manager with a big sulky head on him throwing his toys out of the pram cause you are not winning. Cause if they do I am sure they will muster up another way to give you a penalty like on sat against Norwich, if the referee is strong and fair the mighty blues will win if he is weak then you have the 3 points cause we all know your players like sliding on there backsides as soon as a tackle comes in good luck gunners. Forever blue

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Enjoy Thursday nights mate

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Wow Everton are one of the classiest teams in the league for me but people like you give their fans a bad name.

Invincible49

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Its good that you are already at peace knowing Arsenal will win no matter what, by hook or crook.

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Sounds to me like Everton fans are getting there excuses in early for when they get turned over by the mighty Gooooners tonight lol

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Sounds to me like Everton fans are getting there excuses in early for when they get turned over by the mighty Gooooners tonight lol

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Relax lads I like Arsenal just a bit of friendly banter before our match tonight. And by the way I have huge respect for your manager and the job he done, but I feel we will nick it tonight but it will be close RESPECT for the gunners. Forever blue

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Hopefully we continue our hard work and lucky streak. Manchester United seem to live on this as their bread and butter.

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I've got a feeling we are going to rip Everton to shreds tonight.

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Well aren't you just a delight.

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16 Apr 2013 08:02:19
ED an interest in Imoh Ezekiel? Top quality talent another world class product from Belgium! {Ed029's Note - He is not from Belgium mate.}

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Imoh's Nigerian

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I know he's Nigerian but he has been developed in Belgium (my home nation) is he available or not? {Ed029's Note - I am told it is unlikely.}

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Thank you forthe reply :)

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