Arsenal Banter Archive March 16 2013

16 Mar 2013 19:01:10
I for one have been massively disappointed with Vermaelan this year but it started at the end of last season, both goals at Fulham away were his fault. I don't understand why the captaincy should make you a worse player, if anything it should lift your game. I can see Utd coming sniffing at the end of the season so he can go and join his mate, I do not mention the name any more but we all know who he is and then he will turn into a great centre half once more. I believe Kos can be a world class centre half and he plays with a lot of passion for this great club, build the defence around him!

Kos makes too many mistakes - he's not and will never be 'world class'. {Ed027's Note - evryone makes mistakes

What's the point in such a glib response? His mistakes have been very costly. {Ed027's Note - there is not one man in that team, who has'nt made a mistake, the fact Koscielny turned down the likes of Barca and Milan for us shows his loyalty, he was our best defender last season, after a good run of games, he's hardly got any together this season. Also what is with standing by your own players? lets take Ramsey for e.g, he's been putting in a shift all season, yet most of you want him to be like wilshere, forever booing him at home games, get behind the team and the boss

Thank you ED, well said mate. Kos is a boss, Ramsey is a versatile work horse.

Perhaps Wenger isn't too Blame, maybe if we did a better job of getting behind our club we would see better performances.

Food for thought.

When you pay the world class ticket prices Arsenal charge - you are entitled to question consistently sub-standard performances. Your arguement seems to be get behind those players - they're doing their best. Well sorry - we are not a charity for well intentioned players. You also imply that expressing frustration with the quality and direction of the team is in some way disloyal - utter rubbish. Like most fans I crave the very best for our beloved Arsenal and we will not concede the moral high ground to appeasers and apologists.

Kos is a loss and Ramsey is a Reading player.

I am merely suggesting by booing players you plant the seed of doubt in their minds. Yes they are professionals, but most of them, like Ramsey, are still very young and under more pressure than you or I ever are/will be. They are still human.

Self-doubt can destroy a player.

I am not suggesting its disloyal, just not a best practice.

17 Mar 2013 16:34:08
i always think when people disagree with fans booing players who aren't performing to the standard they can perform to because everyone makes mistakes etc. that if I were earning the money they earn i'd be in a very important job, and one mistake would probably lose said job.

footballers make mistakes and get away with it, not completely fair but it happens. too many and they aren't mistakes. they are the norm.

also with their wages they are expected not to make mistakes.

playing with drive and enthusiasm means fk all aswell if you don't have the skill.

how much enthusiasm do you think most of us fans would play with if we were in the starting line up for arsenal.

how many of us fans would be rubbish?

most tbh, messi playing for real madrid would be 1000x better than alan davies playing for us.

16 Mar 2013 18:21:44
Great result today, todays game and for the rest of the season will be a test of nerves of everyone associated with the Gunners!

A couple of observations. The pace of our game has definently deteriorated over the last couple of years, as has the movement of the forward players. It seems that if they make a run and the ball doesn't reach them they become static, instead of moving again. Additionally, they need to think more. Instances being Artetas challenge late on today as well as his two clumsy tackles v Bayern in extra time (which precluded us from launching more attacks).

Glad Ramsey and Gervinho contributed today, will do them the world of good. If Gervinho could improve his shooting then he would be awesome.

Defensively, massive improvement. Not really sure what this is down to as there are several potential reasons, players having more faith in Fabianski (certainly seems to have improved), no Vermaelen (perhaps this has improved communication or solidity due to no wandering), Koscielny being back (im a huge fan, yes he has had mad moments but think these will reduce) or is Stevie Bould drilling the defensive unit again?

I think soon enough the potential changes for next year will become more of a hot topic. Wanyama, Capoue or Song? A new right back to challenge Jenkinson (who I rate highly and should keep the berth for the rest of the season)? Jovetic? Although I know there is some bad feelings associated with him but personally I would like Nasri back (even at the expense of both Rosicky and Arshavin).

I would never want that smarmy, fat tw*t back at our club. Let him rot in the reserves at Man Shi**y

Big Jim

16 Mar 2013 17:48:30
Delighted that Arsenal won today, especially because Everton got a massive win aswell.

Fingers crossed fulham can put in a winning performance tomorrow to help us out a bit.

16 Mar 2013 17:12:12
Boo Boys! Your heads must be in a spin, ramsey and gervinho combine to secure the game?

Jensen Hatrick

Boo boys only want to see Arsenal do better I don't believe they want Arsenal to lose.

16 Mar 2013 16:54:49
Vorm Pre Match "Arsenal are scared of us"

Vorm Post Match "We are scared of Arsenal"

Good game boys, 2-0. gervinho and 'another' defender Monreal scoring, cleansheet again. cruising

16 Mar 2013 16:33:46
Cummon you gunners!!

16 Mar 2013 15:52:10
0-0 half time not a lot of clear chances. The ox was unlucky not to score. We got better as half went on. He need to up the tempo and up the physicality a bit in midfield. Diaby is annoying me a little looks lathagic. Swansea keep the ball well as we all know but I don't think we have been troubled that much apart from that mistake by Jenkinson for that Michu chance.

Need to get stuck in a bit more and more pressure from midfield. It a must win game draw in not enough now.

16 Mar 2013 14:57:51
Good starting 11 today but no great options on the bench if we need goals

SY4

16 Mar 2013 13:57:39
Any of the ed can reply it. two questions
1)Ed do you big changes for arsenal in the coming months?
2)Ed do you see any takeover for arsenal in the coming months?thanx {Ed027's Note - yes, and possibly

16 Mar 2013 12:54:40
Okay,

Fabianski has one good game, and all of a sudden Szczesny is horrible and Fabianski is the best keeper we have, our first choice.

Fabianski is on the bench for a reason; Szczesny is better.

Szczesny is only 20-21 and he is Arsenals first-choice keeper.

Wait til he is 30 and youl be nervous every transfer window that he doesn't move to Madrid.

Plus he has a pretty average defence that exposes him so much every game.

But my point is,

One week
"We need to sell Flappyhandski, he is not good enough"

Next week
"Szczesny is not up to it, Fabianski is our best keeper"

A bit of consistency would be appreciated, come on guys.

Nick. {Ed027's Note - Szczensy has been poor for a while

So what's your point. Do you want arsenal to give him 10 years to prove himself.

His place is on the bench, if is not fine with that then sell him.

The only reason that Shezza is number 1 is because fabianski got injured. If you remember he was in good form since then he hasn't really had a chance or has been injured!

SM1996

My take on the whole GK situation is we haven't had a World Class goalkeeper since Lehman in 2006. He really went downhill after that. Almunia and Fabianksi have been very average. From what I've seen Szeszency in terms of ability is our best, but Fabianski organises the defence better. Ideally as a top 4 club we need someone who can do both.

Id be very happy with Mannone and Fabianski as 2nd + 3rd choice keepers. Could sell Szezsceny for £12m - £15m. Valdes, Cesar, Adler, Mingolet, Begovic. plenty of names floating aroung atm. I can't see Wenger dropping Szezsncy as first choice unless he starts making some pretty horrendous errors.

We desperatly need another CB and CDM to sort our defence. Maybe a RB too. If TV5 leaves well good luck to him, Kos needs a leader along side him. Mert should only be a backup option. Ameorbieta, Sahko. who knows but a CB will definatly be brought in summer.

Detroit Gooner

Dont think this is the case as such but with scez recent performance then we may aswel let fabs have a run and rest scez form his 'mental stress'

Did you ever see Lehman play? To say that he was world class is way off the mark. He game me the jitters every game. A butter and a liability. Schezsney will be top class but needs not to play in a defence that leaks goals. Koscielny must play as he has pace. Mertsacker is not half as bad as people make out, he isn't quick but has very good positional play

Lehman 1st choice Germany keeper. Kept 6 consecutive clean sheets in CL knockout one year. He was a fantastic keeper. I would take him over any PL keeper today except Hart and maybe Cech.

Detroit Gooner

16 Mar 2013 11:22:06
Szczesny needs to be dropped again today and then maybe he will start to realize the hard work is once you made it to stay there not by getting there in the 1st place, not biggest fan of FAbs but he organized the defence can kick a bit better than szczesny (not difficult)

Hope szczesny has not been hanging around with the king of mr egotism who we shipped off to juve, otherwise his talent will be wasted in similar fashion.

Shaneyd

16 Mar 2013 09:03:12
Question for the Arsenal family. Gotze or Isco? Which of the two will be the better signing?

Gotze every day of the week

batch

Gotze!.

-Homesick-

A tough one. I think Gotze, but Isco isn't that far behind.


BgdGooner