Arsenal Banter Archive July 17 2015

 

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17 Jul 2015 20:03:31
Eds are arsenal interested in benzema seem to be linked with him every window but nothing ever comes of it

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17 Jul 2015 19:38:13
Is £30 million to much for John Stones?
The chelsea fans don't seem to think so even suggesting the club should by him and loan him back to Everton.
I think if anyone on here suggested us paying £30 million for him they'd be shot down in flames but if we did and then loaned him out there'd be uproar, just shows how differently most of us and the chelsea fans view things especially financially.
But who's got it right us or chelsea fans?

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17 Jul 2015 21:29:03
Not overly interested in finances. He is probably going to be the best English defender over the next 5 years or so. Definitely has the most potential. Would be a terrific buy for us. Fee paid ~ who cares.

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17 Jul 2015 23:42:24
Honestly I'm not too bothered about the money thing, as long as we don't spend more than we can afford what's the issue? John Stones does look very good, securing his services long term is probably worth whatever they're willing to pay.

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18 Jul 2015 07:58:34
It sounds a lot of money to me for a young up and coming player but when you think it's what Rio and rooney cost all those years ago I suppose it's fair dinkum.
Just that 32 for Sanchez and 42 for Mesut makes 30 sound a lot for John Stones, also the TV money will drive up prices I guess

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18 Jul 2015 10:14:14
Amortise it over a couple of contracts and it would prove to be a bargain. I'd be all over it if we could get him.

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18 Jul 2015 10:16:12
if he was any other nationality, he would still be under the radar, 30mil is bollocks

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18 Jul 2015 11:01:52
What's bollocks is stressing over money that isn't yours. Paying 3 mil or 30 mil, it won't have an impact on ticket prices or anything that affect you. So it's irrelevant.

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18 Jul 2015 12:09:46
If he's a flop he's not worth it if he's a successthen absolute bargain. But that's now the going rate.

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18 Jul 2015 13:09:32
Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan, ridiculous!

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17 Jul 2015 17:38:50
Guys if we don't sign a striker would you be happy for Sanchez to play upfront as the main striker

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17 Jul 2015 22:42:33
Nope. We saw how badly that went v Everton. False 9 maybe, but not as a sole striker. And I don't think we have the personnel to play a false 9 without Sanchez wide.

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17 Jul 2015 23:42:49
No, I don't think Sanchez does that well as a solo striker.

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18 Jul 2015 08:01:06
He looks very average up top

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18 Jul 2015 10:17:27
he's only been given a few games up top, he has all the attributes to be a top class striker, given time there, i think he'd flourish

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18 Jul 2015 12:07:49
No we don't want sancez as strker, or theo, or welbeck, part time yes, but none of them are regular strikers and never will be.

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17 Jul 2015 12:54:09
Hello Gooners
Ed can you please provide any updates on the players that might leave this summer.
Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work
IG

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17 Jul 2015 18:33:17
Strange Ed didn't reply IGY, wonder what his reply would have been :-)

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18 Jul 2015 00:06:42
RTFP :-)

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17 Jul 2015 12:59:07
Strong rumors on Aubameyang these days does this mean wallcott gone? this seems a like for like replacement to me.

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17 Jul 2015 13:55:01
He's played often as a forward for Dortmund since joining from St Ettienne, but even more so after Lewandowski left and Ramos/Immobile were ineffective.

That being said, I fully believe a striker deal is completely unrelated to Theo.
We want a striker.
If a top one becomes available, we'll sign him.
Regardless of Theo's stance on a new deal.

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17 Jul 2015 17:25:39
Lewy is available, him please! Always worked on fifa :P

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17 Jul 2015 12:54:37
What people here think about mario Gotze? And him as a no. 9? Isn't he playing in that position for Die Mannschaft? How effective will he be?

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17 Jul 2015 18:44:03
Nope, looks like a life size Chucky doll.

Not for me.

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17 Jul 2015 12:18:22
AW has apparently be quotes dismissing the link to us buying Benz!!

"I don't know where that story comes from," he said. "That's not happening at the moment, no."

Soooooo that means this is the clearest indication that we WILL be signing him.

well done AW great bit of business.

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17 Jul 2015 13:57:45
Yeah, Wenger's comments about players are usually 110% lies.

Especially if you also take into account he finished his answer with something like 'at the moment'.

I'm not saying it means we've made a bid and he's at Colney right now, but I'd say it's safe to say we're interested.

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17 Jul 2015 20:57:35
Yous are really clutching at straws now aren't you?

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17 Jul 2015 09:32:33
Morning Ed002! Please forgive me if this wasn't you, but a few days ago I seem to remember that hinted on this site that Bayern Munich are gearing up for a sea-change, a complete change of direction.

I'm really curious about what they're thinking: am guessing that they're moving from using the two ageing wingers to more Guardiola-friendly system of possession football, keeping Muller as their focus but having no need for the bigger aerial threat of lewandowski.

With Sweinsteiger leaving and maybe Benatia - and Vidal coming in - would be most grateful if you might provide an insight into their forthcoming revolution.

No worries if you don't have time! Many thanks

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{Ed002's Note - This isn't the page for it - the European pages are. And I am reluctant to explain it again as there was abuse when I did, but they know they have changes to make with an aging squad (particularly key players) and a change of manager coming. So you can see they need to do something.}

17 Jul 2015 10:35:16
Okay, thanks for taking the time to reply so quickly. I'll search the other pages. Don't know why people would abuse you for simply explaining new philosophies at another club though! Hope you keep deleting these pancakes as you are at the Utd site: much pleasanter atmosphere on there now.

Will post on right page next time - thanks again for your time - much appreciated.

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{Ed002's Note - It will have all been deleted now Wallace.}

17 Jul 2015 17:28:09
For what it's worth I've been pretty grateful for what juiciness we do get, always feels a little like a secret club to be able to hear stuff from you guys as it's always without the bullshit you see on Tw*tter and the like. Some people just can't deal with stuff they don't want to hear, unfortunately

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17 Jul 2015 07:01:42
I know some people are supporting Wenger for not buying another defensive midfielder, I rate coquelin too, and I'm not at all Anti-Wenger and all that, but common let's not kid ourselves here.
United with schneiderlin--schweinsteiger and mata have one of the best midfield trios for the coming season.
Chelsea have matic--fabregas and Oscar.
City have yaya-fernandinho and silva if they play 4-2-3-1
While we also have cazorla and ozil, we still miss that top class defensive midfielder to complete that trio.
I know coquelin is good, but for the bigger games, the title deciders, champions league quarter finals, cruch 6 pointers in the league against top sides, we need a top class signing.
I would've been happy with ospina and Vidal rather than Cech and coquelin.
Coyg ;)

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17 Jul 2015 08:10:31
I see no reason to remove Coquelin. He has been at Arsenal for a number of years, his teammates seem to like and respect him and he plays hard every second he's on the pitch. Vidal on the other hand plays in more of a box to box role and has gotten a taste for goal so you will find him in advanced positions far too often for my liking. I don't expect Coquelin to score even if he plays 40+ games a season because he is so disciplined and so committed to filling his defensive responsibilities in the team.

Ospina is a good keeper but we know he's too short and has been exposed on a few occasions as a result. Cech is a major step up, just look at the comments players are making about the effect he is having on the changing room, got to love it! I also really think that Coquelin made Ospina look better than he is because it was his insertion into our starting line up that settled the defense rather than Ospina's. Coquelin's presence and his ability to break up play kept our CBs from getting caught out and allowed for our full backs more freedom to make forward runs.

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17 Jul 2015 08:14:42
Like everyone else your entitled to your opinion I just happen to totally disagree with it.
Cech v Ospina is a no brained and Le Coq v Vidal is like comparing Belerin to Messi totally different players with totally different jobs.
Personally I think we will sign more players but even if we didn't we are already 2000% better going into this season than last.
With Cech Gabriel and Le Coq alone winning the title maybe difficult but its a lot lot more doable than when we went into last season looking more likely to finish in the Europa league than win the premier league.

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17 Jul 2015 08:32:26
Shrikant,

Firstly it genuinely has nothing to do with supporting or not supporting Wenger.

We are fortunate to get some insights on here as to who the top clubs are looking at or sometimes the areas they are looking at from either ed02 or ed01.

That information you can't from the tabloids with any hint of it being true. That doesn't mean that everything the eds say will come to fruition because things will change and that's not under their control. The one thing I will say is they will not lead us up the garden path as this site is made on their honesty and if people believe they are just feeding us a load of tripe no one would bother coming back.

So that said we are led to believe, and hopefully I'm getting this right eds, that Wenger is looking for a defensive midfielder the first choice probably being Carvalho the second being Krychowiak.

Strikers are possibly Benzema, Lacazette and maybe even another I can't recall.

Now looking and buying don't always add up but that's the info we have, Wenger is Mr Poker face and will even answer yes if asked if he likes a particular player and off the papers go, example, the Vidal links.

Wenger will not be rushed and he is also likely to pull a transfer out of no where when that player suddenly becomes available.

Our midfield, Coquelin has come back and shown what he is capable of in that position, he still has a lot to prove and injury free I don't believe he will disappoint.

You also can't tell me that Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla and Coquelin all fit and firing, like any team would hope their players to be, are not as good, or in fact, better than any of the other sides you have listed.

I don't think fans are giving this team of ours half the credit they deserve for the way they are playing as a group and the cohesion amongst them let alone the style.

It's like people are looking at an Arsenal side of 3 years ago.

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17 Jul 2015 09:04:15
Red Dog 81,
Don't get me wrong mate, I know coquelin has earned his place and he deserves to be in the team. But there ARE better players in the market, and we need to buy the remaining two positions one being the DM and the other being the striker, since we only have Giroud and Coquelin.
At least we need to sign players in these positions to atleast compliment each other if not replace them.
Chelsea are signing Pedro even though they have Willian, cuadrado, hazard and even Oscar who cal play on the wing.
We need to learn from the title winning teams, and beat them in their own game.
We are so close and no Gooner would like to pass away this summer, since we are very very close to winning the league!
Coyg! ;)

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{Ed002's Note - Cuadrado will probably be gone, possibly Oscar as well.}

17 Jul 2015 09:20:59
Mate,

I wasn't disagreeing with you as such, simply saying we know the positions we need to strengthen and from what the eds say we are looking at those exact positions.

It requires a little patience as Wenger will not be rushed into anything as Robbie said below.

We are a title winning club, we won it under Wenger, he knows more than most what it takes and that is what he is aiming at.

We have some fantastic quality in this team and its like people lose sight of that as soon as two weeks into the window we haven't brought every man and his dog.

It's almost like Petr Cech never happened. :-)

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17 Jul 2015 09:22:17
Shrikant they might have been possible upgrades o le coq on the market but there isn't now. Unless we get pogba I don't think we should bother looking for an upgrade. There's krychwiak and lars bender who could come in to compete with le coq . And you would prefer ospina and vidal come on please cech and le coq all day all night.

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17 Jul 2015 09:28:55
Shri let me get this straight, you think we need an upgrade on Le Coq but your perfectly happy with Mertersaacker to partner Kos?
You think Le Coq is a bigger concern than Monreal and Gibbs at LB?
Your more sure of Theo week in week out than Le Coq?
Just what is it Le Coq does or doesn't do that worry's you so much?

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17 Jul 2015 09:44:24
Red Dog 81,
yeah mate cech is a fantastic signing, i totally i agree, but it worries me that wenger might just keep his chequebook inside his pocket for this summer.

Browngun82,
i know mate there aren't better players than coquelin, who can be as disciplined as him, but we do need competition.

gunner62,
mertesacker is alright mate, he's not that bad and I'm happy with coquelin too. its just that i don't want this season to begin with just two quality players in coquelin and giroud in striker and Dm positions. What if they both get injured during the crunch march time?

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17 Jul 2015 10:08:08
:-) I won't get into Mertesacker fualts Shri mate as I'd be here all day so to save time I'll say this, his timing in a tackle is excellent and he was absolutely outstanding in the FA cup final plus just like Artetta Rosicky and Poldolski he's very good in the changing room I hear :-)

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17 Jul 2015 06:27:02
We need to be patient, as the transfer window is open for some time and Wenger tends to time his move for top quality signings to perfection, stepping in to buy Ozil, when Real needed the funds to pay towards Bale and doing the same when we signed Sanchez, when Braca needed funds to pay towards Suarez.
There appears to be very few spaces in our squad and any signings need to be top quality. Wenger has stated we will try & sign 1, possibly 2 players. I would like to see a DM purchased, but I doubt this will happen, so which 2 positions do you think Wenger is considering?

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17 Jul 2015 08:51:30
Benzema and Benzema and the sooner we sign both the better for Soooooo many reasons :-) a striker and winger for me with Reus/Draxler being favorites and as for the striker let me think! Has anyone mentioned Benzema?
I think we will sign atleat one more quality signing and probally two which would be yippy yoodie but its been a lot of year's since our need was less desperate than it is now so no panic here.

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17 Jul 2015 17:30:53
Would be a hilarious bit of trolling, very Wenger like, to buy Benz from Madrid and thus financing their purchase of some major prem player targeted by other clubs.

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