Arsenal Banter Archive May 18 2013

18 May 2013 21:07:16
Hey ed's 002 & 027 keeping up the good work guys thanks, still an avid reader, but not posting too much, miss london & the season has been like that!. kind of need Metal, Charlie, Ben (s), redgoon, Malaga, steve, etc back on here, the transfer window will do that I'm sure. anyways a reminder of my January post below, I have 4/6 now I think (although maybe not the right names in the right places), today could seal a fifth. (will you collect my winnings for me?)

gun44 (now 'down under' and the only Looney Gunner cheering our boys on in the middle of the pub in the middle of the night)


"05 Jan 2013 02:43:03
After the first few days back to work I fancied a flutter so popped into the bookies, but I don't like FA Cup betting (too many shock results!) so had a chat and made a proposal, and he agreed to 100-1, so I thought why not put a tenner on it?

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ALL TOP SIX clubs of Arsenal, Man Citeh, Spuds, Man Utd, Chelski and Everton will have new managers by Jan 1 2014!

Here's my reasoning.

ManUtd - Jose Mourinho

Now, I think Man United is the dodgiest on the list but Old Red Nose is already showing signs of mental illness with some of his comments this season! Jose looks increasingly like he will be available at the end of the season, if not before. I think Utd have had him earmarked as SAFs successor for a while, and I think they would move for him if he was available and he inevitably got talking to Citeh. SAF may well retire following a successful and dominant title winning season, along with his legends scholes and giggs. Or SAF may be gone if a stray RVP shot hits him on the head!

Man Citeh - Jurgen Klopp

I don't see them catching Utd, so I think Mancini will lose his job, and take a lot of his expensive flops like Ballotelli and Garcia with him. Citeh will want Jose but as explained above I think Utd would go for him and he would choose them. 2nd choice would be Pep G, but he builds francises over a prolonged period, and must know he wouldn't get the time on Citeh's hot seat. So I think they'd move for a recent successful man-manager like Klopp who could bring some stars like Gotze with him, or perhaps an old school disciplinarian, someone like Capello or Koemann or Ancelloti.

Chelski - Not sure who but it won't be Rafa! even though IMO they finish 3rd this season.

Everton - Martin O'Neil (or someone similar)

A good money manager and player motivator. Moyes may think he has done all he can there (surpassing expectations) and after Everton are forced to sell their stars in Fellaini and Baines, albeit for big profits, they simply can't reinvest too much, especially as IMO they won't get a top 4 finish this season. Martinez would be in with a shout too.

Spurs - David Moyes

Moyes could likely leave for the next step up, and I think he would accept this job if offered after AVB flops again. The mighty Gunners will finish 4th with their worst team ever, above the best spurs team ever, which will not be good enough for the spurs to back AVB with any more money. They will continue the annual comedy that is Spursday Football. They'll sell Bale, probably shift a lot of players as usual, and rebuild without champs league money, which is Moye's speciality. Even though his reputation in Britain is quite poor, I could see Madrid or Inter or another big european club taking AVB, so it could work out ok for him.

Arsenal - Pep Guardiola

Pep had a detailed visit of the training grounds, youth academy and stadium a few years ago and was very impressed with the tradition, finances, future plans etc and he was touted to be AW's successor way back then, but the pieces may now be in place for that to actually materialise. He is learning English whilst on his sabatical and living very close to the New York Red Bulls, and apparently has a close relationship with King TH14 whilst over there (who could very well join his coaching staff with us). There will be many offers for him, but I think he would choose Arsenal over all of them as Arsenal like stability and he would pretty much be guaranteed 5 years at the helm. However, Barca could come calling again due to their coach unfortunately getting ill again.

As for Wenger, well I bet he never imagined the day his Arsenal fans sang "You don't know what you're doing" to him. I think we'll finish 4th place this season, which will be a minor miracle for Wenger (without adding quality this month, which I don't think will happen because AW will keep the excuses coming and the money safe for the new manager's era). 4th place and he could step aside with his head held relatively high. He'll most likely move up to be Chief Executive for a few years, which could hold the new coaches back, but I wouldn't begrudge his involvement in assisting the transition period. He may even take the France job, but I can't see him managing another club after us, and rightfully so, because he is a Legend here.


What do you reckon? Should I just throw the ticket away now?

PS. I was close to adding Loserpool and Newcastle to the list which would've made it 150-1 but decided against it.

gun44"

Arsenal haven't won anything in 8 years and their fans still shamelessly call Liverpool loserpool


2011

18 May 2013 17:54:45
what is the likeliness that the following players could be signed this summer?

Julio Cesar £4m
Sebastian Corchia £6m
Ashley Williams £8m
Victor Wanyma £12m
Stevan Jovetic £18m
Gonzalo Higuain £22m

Total = £70m

Cheers

No, maybe, maybe, unlikely, likely, no

Hopefully, i'd rather sign dragovic or lovren instead of williams

18 May 2013 13:57:37
someone told me Gervinho to galatasary any truth ed





tom {Ed027's Note - You told yourself that weirdo, you're the on who posted it on rumours ffs

Lol I want this story to be true but great replies from the ed

Haha outed by ED, bet he has 300 friends too. all himself

How can you tell its him ed and I find it well funny lol
Ali {Ed027's Note - IP

, so glad you're showing him up ed. What a freak!

ED could they just be connected to the same internet. ie a net cafe, or public wifi?

even so a bit silly tom. {Ed027's Note - very unlikely, he replied to himself more than once, he has issues, could be a she...who knows

Its probably gervinho pretending someone wants him

18 May 2013 11:33:33
One of the ed gave a list of players which ars look to sign this summer but that list didn't include sanogo.
Ed please can u tell do you see those plyers in ars colours nect season? {Ed027's Note - I don't know which ed you are on about

He's probably just a reserve team addition and that's why no one has given him much attention don't think well see him in first team next season

18 May 2013 10:58:22
people talk about the talent of benteke from villa.
but podolski / giroud / couzola grant u older have all scored more goals in there first season at emirates.

pat on the back to these 3 I think u have done a great job to try and fill in the void of 2 world class players cesc and RVP.

so they have done better than Grevhino/bendnter/chamak

Comparing strikers directly is one thing, comparing their records are another.

do you think henry would be scoring 30+ goals in league 1 football?

teams and 'supply' factor in to things

Exactly Goonerink. that's why it does me in when fans think someone like Jovetic won't prosper in this league.

Who would have thought RVP would be scoring 30+ back in '05?

Switch giroud and benteke's transfers. Imho benteke would have scored more with us. And giroud would have scored a lot less.

I rate giroud and benteke and would prefer benteke to bendtner. Would I switch a prolific 'top' french striker in giroud for a young unproven arsenal fan? I would but then again i'm not a top manager

18 May 2013 10:49:25
"It seems that if Arsenal do plan to make a summer move for the Montenegrin forward, they want to make absolutely sure they've got the right man first.

It's easy to understand why. Arsene Wenger's recent forward purchases have been somewhat hit-and-miss. Marouane Chamakh and Park Chu-Young have both been farmed out on loan after prolonged barren spells. Gervinho continues to infuriate Arsenal fans with his inconsistency and inaccuracy in front of goal. Olivier Giroud has demonstrated his undoubted potential on several occasions but has struggled to consistently fill the void created by the departure of Robin van Persie.

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This summer, Arsene Wenger cannot afford to make a mistake. Whether or not Arsenal manage to qualify for the Champions League, this season has not been good enough. Arsenal need to bring in a forward who can help turn them from also-rans to genuine contenders once again.

For all Giroud's qualities, there is a sense that he is not a striker in the true Arsenal mould. The Frenchman is a fairly traditional target man: he is best with the ball in the air and his back to the goal. He is an atypical Arsene Wenger player; Wenger's trophy-winning sides have tended to feature quick, mobile forwards like Nicolas Anelka and Thierry Henry.

Giroud represents a wonderful Plan B; Arsenal need a new Plan A.

Jovetic could be the man for that plan.

He is quick off the mark and has outstanding technique. Unlike Giroud, his game is not based on physical strength, but instinctive sprints into space and an immaculate first touch. He is comparable with Liverpool's Luis Suarez, who has flourished in the Premier League this season.


Fielding Jovetic at centre-forward would transform Arsenal's style. His versatility means he would be able to swap out to the wings whenever required, allowing Lukas Podolski and Theo Walcott to alternate through the centre, giving Arsenal a newfound unpredictability in attack.

He also has the pace to get on to through-balls from the likes of Jack Wilshere and Santi Cazorla. Giroud prefers passes in to his head, chest or feet, but Jovetic is prepared to run in behind the defence when needed, stretching the play and creating space for others.


Of course, the wonderful thing about adding Jovetic to the Arsenal ranks is that it would allow Arsenal to switch things up and change to a front two when required. Jovetic and Giroud would make a marvellous front pairing. In certain games, Arsenal could go for a more direct system akin to that played by The Invincibles in 2004.

It remains to be seen whether or not Arsenal are prepared to break the bank to sign a player of Jovetic's quality.

However, should the Gunners bring Jovetic in, it will transform not just their starting lineup but also their chances of winning silverware next season. "


From the article "Picking an Arsenal Starting XI to Include Stevan Jovetic"
By James McNicholas on March 27, 2013

18 May 2013 08:58:49
Finishing strongly this season will help us loads for next season. We've finally solved the defensive problems that have haunted us for the past 2-3 seasons. An established CB pairing, a reliable keeper and more than adequate cover at RB and LB.

To be honest I don't think we need a CDM as we have two high energy CMs in Wilshere and Ramsey. This obviously works as we've been playing last 10 games without one and haven't conceded from open play since March or something like that. I'm not sure what Wengers planning next season regarding captaincy. Will Arteta stay in team but that would mean Cazorla stays on the left midfield or Ramsey gets dropped? Wilshere would make a great captain but still a bit young plus that would mean stripping it off Vermaelen that would destroy his confidence.

If our defence was this good for a whole season we would win the league simples. All the teams that win the PL have a rock solid defence. The invincibles did, Chelsea did, United have several times. I wonder just how much influence Steve Bould has had on our defence. It looked like he was performing miracles at start of season but it soon went to $h!t. Also can I just say can people stop suggesting Vermaelen as a CDM it's never going to happen.

Detroit Gooner

18 May 2013 00:31:38
I know someone quite high up in arsenal and according to him arsenal will break their transfer record but nothing ridiculously high and possibly their 100k wage allowance, wouldn't give me much but asked Rooney all I got was 'not a chance'. Also said jovetic deal isn't near completion as there is a quite a few details to be ironed out.
{Ed027's Note - Scotsgooner*

Well. Considering your ridiculously loose post on the transfer page I'll take this w/ a mountain of salt thanks.

Quite high up as in they sit in the back row of the upper tier?

Podolski is on £107k a week, which I believe is more than £100k a week

Paul

Paul. Mythology.

Neither Poldi nor Walcott are on anywhere near 100k PW let alone over it.

Theo is on 95k PW

Poldi is on 85 (rising to 90) k PW.