Arsenal Banter Archive April 23 2014

23 Apr 2014 21:19:52
Obviously after the 'Chosen One' was sacked by Manchester United yesterday following his record breakingly (bad) stint as manager, it got me thinking about 'Arsene who?' As he was known as when he first arrived in England.

Now there's been speculation about him leaving this summer and we would be in a similar situation to Manchester United in terms of someone FOLLOWING a club icon. Both SAF and Wenger have transformed both clubs in so many ways from top to bottom.

Wengers 18yrs in charge have almost been split into two 9yr periods. The first nine in the late 90s and early noughties up til 2004/05 were trophy laden and full of success. The second 9yrs we have endured a trophy drought under the financial constructs of the state of the art stadium that has been built. Wenger has been given so much time due to loyalty and previous success and basically IMO because of everything he has done for the club.

My question for you horrible lot is; IF Wenger was to leave what direction does the club go in?

Do we go down the former player/young manager (De Boer/Bergkamp combo) Simone etc. and give them as much time as possible.

Or do we go for an experienced Louis Van Gaal type and give them a three year contract demanding a trophy within two years?

Moyes was offered a SIX year deal with promises of the club standing by him no matter what and he lasted as long as an average pregnancy!

It is a tricky bridge to cross and I'll be interested to see what people think we should do.

{Ed025's Note - good post that greeny..

23 Apr 2014 22:18:19
Just on a side note re "The Chosen one" have you seen the banner on sale on eBay. Currently at £154,000.

From the write up it's going to be a hoax but some guys having fun with it.

Arsene does get a mention in it too.

Iv always said that when Wenger goes when ever that maybe that someone with "Arsenal blood" should be brought in. Now currently there isn't many former players who I would choose as a manager/head coach but a few would be very much suited as an number 2. Bergkamp ( like you suggested with de boer ) Patrick Vieira would be great back at arsenal. Also Jens Lehman I believe would be a strong number 2. All know "the Arsenal way" and were part of our most successful period.

Good post and good question, luckily it doesn't concern us for one more season, at least

I'll be brutally honest, fergie was a fantastic manager, he won with great teams and pretty average teams. But he left moyes with a bag of jobbies. The defence needed a complete overhaul, injury prone or past it and the lads he got in jones smalling butner and Rafael not good enough. The midfield was creaking and lost its bite. Good up top but nothing behind. At least we have some promising young talent to work with and the older ones can be pensioned off this summer. All we need is a manager with what's needed to organise and set up a team with balance and tactical awareness. Me I prefer either a proven winner at the highest level on a regular basis. Or a bright young thing like simionne, klopp or martinez.

Truth be told, the Utd debacle over the last two days has made me a lot fonder of Arsene again.

We forget what we have sometimes with our players and managers

The United players, including RVP have come off very, very badly. Mutinous. I wonder RVP's role.

Excellent question.
The first period of Wenger was whilst Dein & Fiszman were at the helm. The second period was dominated by Wenger himself.
If Wenger were to depart there is little direction from above, so an experienced manager would be vital. My own choices, if available would be Ancelotti or Mourinho.
For a younger option, De Boer & Bergkamp would be an idea.

You did not just say Mourinho? The guy is an actor who likes to take centre stage. He will destroy the name of Arsenal (trophies or not) within one season with his stupid acts. I used to think Mourinho was the bees knees and couldn't say a bad word about him even though he managed Chelsea but this season he is a total an utter tool and I wouldn't want him even if he gave us all four titles in one season. Some may disagree

You did not just say Mourinho? The guy is an actor who likes to take centre stage. He will destroy the name of Arsenal (trophies or not) within one season with his stupid acts. I used to think Mourinho was the bees knees and couldn't say a bad word about him even though he managed Chelsea but this season he is a total an utter tool and I wouldn't want him even if he gave us all four titles in one season. Some may disagree

23 Apr 2014 20:16:23
How likely is it that Arsenal want Benzema? And would madrid let him go if we went in for him?

And on a separate note, what do people think about Bony from Swansea? My view is that he would be a perfect fit for the striker we need. Would be interested in other peoples views

I would be amazed if we got Benzema. IMO he is world class and would be unbelievably good for us.

Not going to happen though.

As for Bony, again, I'm not really sold on the guy. He's a good player but I just think we need to look and get better players in.

Why would he want to come to Arsenal? IMO he has a better chance of winning things were he is, for now anyway

23 Apr 2014 19:32:14
Goldboy,

you crack me up mate.
Love the jokes.

I know Dags. Makes me laugh too .

23 Apr 2014 19:29:08
I love the new pic on Arsenal sightings, lol

23 Apr 2014 15:13:06
What's the difference between David Moyes and the captain of the Titanic?.
The captain of the Titanic knew when it was the right time to jump ship.

The captain of the Titanic sank with his ship. Your joke makes no sense.

Let me answer this Ed025.
RED ROSIE. Good point mate. But do we really know that? I think he did a runner and jumped into a lifeboat dressed as a woman. Ah! See you never thought of that did you?

Nah I saw the movie that is based on 100% fact and he definitely went down with the ship. maybe.

{Ed007's Note - Don't you guys know anything? It wasn't Titanic that sank.

Or if you don't believe that, Google 'William Barnes Thomas Andrews Titanic'

Jeezus. Is REDROSIEs reply for real? Or is it Dags having a laugh under a pseudonym Even I'm not too sure now. REDROSIE. Are you being serious mate. Eds I think I'll let this one pass. Otherwise it may run and run. Do you know what I mean? LOL.

{Ed025's Note - its a disaster!..

Am I being serious? Of course I am. It's so sad that Leonardo Di Caprio died that day. RIP

{Ed025's Note - i dont know why...but i have this vision of rosie and goldie, at the front of a boat with their arms out-stretched sailing down the thames.. :)

I'M FLYING GOLDIE!

Same vision I have Redrosie of Flybo and Giroud

REDROSIE . Rehab then mate.

23 Apr 2014 07:48:55
When asked by reporters if he had ever been offered a betting bribe.
David Moyes replied "I was offered £1M to make sure Manchester United don't qualify for Europe next season but I told them I'd do it for free".

I'm all for making a mockery of the man when he was in charge of Man utd, but I don't believe in kicking a man when he's already down and out.

He might have failed, but I believe the club have failed him, more.

Got to laugh at the mess that is Man Utd! But at the same time what they have done to Moyse is detrimental to football in general. Still scratching my head as to why they gave him a 6 year contract hahhaaaa

23 Apr 2014 10:56:36
You think so Lakerville? I never expected him to win trophies in the first season, but then again, I never expected the team to fall from grace so emphatically and so quickly

The team was not good enough, how they won last year is beyond me, clearly Van persie fired those goals to win the title, but if you look at the rest of the squad they were pretty much the same stat for stat.

Moyes should have sold rooney and made a bold move, but giving him that crazy contract only showed that Rooney was bigger than the club, considering how he treated them before.

Also Van persie and Mata would be a great link up, but having rooney means Mata's space becomes rooney's space, and while he does it brilliantly as well, I just do not see why he spent 37 million on that player for a position he did not need to cover.

He could have tried for reus or kroos players they need to replace cleverly and young, but he bought Mata.

at the end of the day whoever the new manager is, has to deal with some player power. Rooney clearly has too big a say, for someone who is not too bright. He will be the captain next season.

I think people get enamored with players who run their hearts out, they do not see the bigger picture, which is that player has sacrificed his position and the shape of the team, it looks good when it comes off but when it doesn't which has been lately it looks like a headless chicken on the run around.

Dont get me wrong rooney is a brilliant player but he is not world class. that is something the English Media label their youngsters.

Wilshere is not World class, the Ox is not, Ramsey is not (although he is having a sensational season) Consistency over a period confims such a status.

and while rooney was world class in 2009 he just has not improved, infact he has been the same or regressed, he should be hitting peak form not taking a holiday.

Lakerville. Lighten up a bit it's called Banter mate. Have fun.

{Ed025's Note - never give up the chance to kick a guy when he,s down, you may not get another chance.. :)

Then kick I shall. get the baseball bats, i'm going to go loco on this moyes fella.

23 Apr 2014 07:40:38
David Moyes shouldn't worry about getting another job.

After receiving £4 million for being a complete failure, he'll be running a bank in no time.

He was not poor to start with, I think his reputation has taken such a hit that he will be having nightmares about this for the rest of his life. sad thing is no one is ever going to give him a chance at a top club, his best bet is to get a job at a club like newcastle and make them contenders and gain some sort of recognition.

if he joins any other club I just don't see him having an impact, and there is no way he is getting picked by any club in the top 6 in the near future.

There's always the story of Brian Clough at Leeds. As bad as Moyes had it and sacked ignominiously. He managed to get past it -:)

I'd be looking at Woodward and the organization. It was a shambles of an off season and no better during the campaign. Let's see if they can make a real Sp*rs-up of this for years to come -:)

23 Apr 2014 07:37:05
A man has been arrested for throwing rubbish onto the pitch at Old Trafford.
A Mr David Moyes will appear before magistrates in the morning.

23 Apr 2014 07:30:44
Moyes is still trying to keep to a promise he made to the fans that Man United would be in a major European competition next year. Even if he has to write the song himself.

22 Apr 2014 23:35:42
Great to see Abu Diaby back. It looks like all players will be fit for the final, except Walcott. It will be interesting to see the line up.

You are getting way ahead of yourself, there is 3 games before then and that could mean 5 or 6 injuries. This is arsenal and we don't do injury free. Diaby might injure himself getting out of his car.

It would be a joke if Diaby is in the cup final squad