Arsenal Banter Archive June 26 2015

26 Jun 2015 22:40:50
I don't see any of our star players like Kos Mesut Sanchez Ox Aaron Belerin going any where this summer no matter what the papers like to say to sell their scandal sheets.
The only exceptions I can see are Theo or Jack to either fund separately or as part of a deal for to bring in really big name arrivals but even that is a long shot.
We are no longer a selling club and no matter what rumours come and go about our players this summer I won't be losing any sleep until I actually see them at another clubs press conference.

27 Jun 2015 02:33:54
G62,

Fair point, we have come a long way from selling stars every year.

I think we will be much more resistant selling to a domestic rival.

I still think that the Real, Barca and Bayern's of the world can turn our player's heads. Then a lot will depend on the player's contract at arsenal and the player/agent's willingness to agitate for a move.

BUT, other than the big continental clubs, I do not see us having any trouble retaining our players. As long as we are buying high quality players and we start challenging for titles - I am sure the players will be happy to pick up a competitive wage in a competitive team.

26 Jun 2015 18:27:04
Hey Eds, I did a search just to check, but no-one seems to have made a comment on the vidal move apart from a few speculative posts - is there any weight to this rumour today?

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what you are talking about.}

26 Jun 2015 14:36:14
Just looking at the attacking players we've been linked with, it leads me to think that Wenger will play Theo as our #1 striker. Players like Aubemeyang, Pedro and Sterling are all players that would fill in well at Theo's RW slot. I'm not greedy though, any of Reus, Greizmann, Lacazette or El Shawaary would do well there.

26 Jun 2015 17:28:18
I think there's serious legs in that outback me old honey suckle munchkin, plus it would keep Theo Danny and Olly happy as our main striking options.
For me if Theo is to ever become a very top player its down the middle.

26 Jun 2015 13:07:28
I don't know why there is always a hue and cry when we miss out on targets.

does it mean we did not want the player? ofcourse not. the player probably had a better deal or a more attractive offer, why fault them on that.

Cesc joining chelsea? he did what was best for him, we did not need him as we had ozil and i still think we made the right decision.

on jackson martinez, i don't rate him, why would arsene? perhaps we did want him but not as badly as athletico did, hence he goes there.

Schneiderlin? yes we did want him, he probably waited for us to make a concrete offer, we dithered and now Manchester United gave him a better offer and anyone with logic always chooses the better offer.

would any of those players improve us? YES they would.

but if we end up buying players who are of even better "quality" i do not see why we should be worried.

right now it does not look soo great with liverpool and Manchester United and city and chelsea linked with quality players and signing some, while we are still struggling to complete a medical on a GK.

but i like our team. the core is brilliant, we are 3 key additions from being a complete team, capable of fighting on all fronts.

GK, Midfield and Forward.

since we know the GK.

im going to go out on a limb. if the midfield and forward are Vidal and reus, i think we have ourselves a genuine team to battle chelsea and city.

although i know we are looking at aubamayeng

26 Jun 2015 12:11:03
i understand that journalists look for as many stories to fill websites etc with, but i personally don't agree with the reporting of youth signings, by the wider press. Vlad D being the most recent example, calling these players wonderkids and so on is completely unfair and the media should do there part not to put pressure on youngsters at such a young age. interested to know what you lot think.

when i was 15 i set up my mate for a goal against real madrids U18s side who where on tour over here, a few of the players at the time were dubbed as being the next big thing in world football, now they'll be about 20-23 and barely any of them play in the top two leagues in spain. don't get me wrong, i understnad that its exciting to think the next big talent might be at arsenal, but i think the media and the wider public should do more to remove th hype around youngsters as it can't be healthy

26 Jun 2015 13:20:23
Good point saint, possibly connected in part to why so few youth players actually make the cut

27 Jun 2015 09:02:26
who were the players you were playing against Saint?

26 Jun 2015 08:26:51
Who would you guys prefer Vidal or Schneiderlin. Look's like we're going to lose out on the latter. Who would be interested Rami or Alderweild.

26 Jun 2015 09:42:47
Really like alderweild

26 Jun 2015 10:12:18
Vidal all day

26 Jun 2015 12:49:09
Vidal for me also

26 Jun 2015 16:14:41
Vidal, purely because of his barnet :)

26 Jun 2015 15:37:22
For me a no brainer, Vidal. Maybe Sanchez could persuade him also. That would be a marquee signing for me I really rate him. Still think we are missing a great striker tho, altho I can't see us getting one that will score us 20-30 a season at this rate.

26 Jun 2015 02:18:15
couple of humble points.

Fabregas was our captain, stalled for a deal and went to his boyhood club, ok. He was worshipped at Arsenal but mugged us off with feigned injuries and not turning up to even watch his own team play in his final 3 months. Would I have had him back, no, it would have jeopardised Ramsey Wilshere and OX development if injuries didn't come into play.

Next we miss out on Martinez, AW you fool the fella is a beast and Athletico will do some damage with him on board.

Reading next Schniederlin is off to the Mancs. Un effin believable if it happens, another one bites the dust.

Yeah call me a cynic but I'm tired of stupid management decisions that are affecting my club.

doubt whether this will be shown but its what I think.

Over and over and over again.

26 Jun 2015 04:27:21
i bet you complained when wenger didn't get baletolli yet wenger was right not to, he knows more than any of us and we can only go by what the press writes, as for martinez well he is way overpriced for his age and i don't think he would do well in the prem.

26 Jun 2015 05:38:30
I agree on Fabregas. Won't comment on any other missed transfers until the window closes, as I don't pretend to know Wengers mind.

26 Jun 2015 08:05:27
If true and Spyder has that little ambition then its best we don't sign him, he already had Europa league football at Southampton so if it is true money is his only reason for joining utd
All can say is WE GOT PETR CECH, WE GOT PETR CECH

26 Jun 2015 08:52:57
So you wouldn't have fabregas (for those reasons) but you want spyder, when both of them play along side a dmf?

G62 that made me laugh.

26 Jun 2015 09:08:24
Agreed G62 spot on

26 Jun 2015 09:42:28
And I suppose these stupid management decisions are the same ones that have lead to us signing Alexis, Ozil, Cech etc.

The same stupid decisions that brought Le Coq back off loan and inspired us to finish so well.

If AW wanted Martinez he would of signed him, it's as simple as that but Wenger knows best. The transfer window isn't even open yet so give the man a break and trust his judgement.

I can only imagine what it would be like if every Tom, dick and Harry was a manager, this is the real world not Fifa..

Apologies gents rant over

26 Jun 2015 11:13:52
Welcome back Peter long time no read mate, I don't agree with all your super Arsene bit mate but good to hear from you again.
Le Coq? Master management or a very very lucky piece of good fortune born out of share desperation to rescue a season that was in serious danger of imploding.
If Arsene had bought a DM and a CB in August would we have struggled so badly in the first half of the season? " Struggle what struggle " I hear you say :-) " we were 5th and had terrible injuries "! Exactly is my reply :-).
It doesn't matter now because we have Le Coq who for me is as good as we could ask for plus Gabriel who I think will join Le Coq on that level this season plus the mighty Petr Cech.
Arsene still the genius he once was? Yet to be decided but at this moment in time there are very good arguments both for and against it especially when you take into account it was by Arsene's own addmition player power that forced his hand to change tactics at city thus bringing about a performance that would change our formation and tactics and ultimately our season

26 Jun 2015 18:13:09
Thanks G62 mate appreciate that! Don't get me wrong G62 I've cursed AW over the years for decisions he's made and players he's bought and sold but it just frustrates the life out of me when people winge about missing so called targets.

I agree with your points about if he'd signed players before the start of last season where would we have finished, but that's just it "WHAT IF....."

My previous post might come across as a bit of wenger 'lovin' but it is so easy to criticise him because we haven't signed one of the endless number of targets that we seemed to be linked to its just very annoying to read stupid posts like that...

End of rant #2 ;-)

26 Jun 2015 21:07:17
Peter I'm with you there mate, were linked with a player by the media who Arsene may well have no interest in at all then when they sign for someone else people say we lost out because of fee, wages, agents fee's or whatever when infact we were never interested in the first place.
People confuse reality and dreams sometimes then blame others for not making it happen.
I'm pleased with how things are right now and am looking forward to a real challenge next season because how we got where we are is history its where we're going that matters now.

26 Jun 2015 22:39:26
Well said G62 couldn't agree more mate