Arsenal Banter Archive July 31 2015

 

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31 Jul 2015 23:13:35
Getting it in mega early.

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01 Aug 2015 01:45:09
Yer I think same dags or a 1 0 to us

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01 Aug 2015 09:28:29
2-0 Ox and Ramsey with the goals, Cech to keep a clean sheet, Wenger to pull Mourhino's tie.

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31 Jul 2015 22:56:40
The true definition of irony.

West Ham get into Europa League due to Fair Play.

Than, have 3 players sent off in 5 games.

Love it.

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31 Jul 2015 22:17:09
This Page Is Amazing!

Would love to see benzema at arsenal! FACT!

but i see Llorente rumours and just wanna put out there

would you prefer 8m for llorente, or osvaldo on a free! yes i know he's trouble but i just see him thriving at arsenal i think a player like him can't cope with being a big fish in a small pond goes to his head. But 80mins in 1-1 who would you prefer to come on llorente or osvaldo

also think gourcuff would be great addition on a free one year contract strengthin midfield if he's injured let him go after a year if he gets back to what he was would be great and we all know arsen likes him

also i think mouhamadou dabo would be great on a free BARGIN. even though i think we don't need defenders.

just a thought.
if we spend monney would want a big signing!
not spending 30m on 3 squad players when there's players out there who could fill squad and cost nothing on transfer fees.

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31 Jul 2015 23:08:27
Osvaldo is a total butt job...I wouldn't touch him with a frozen fish.

Gourcuff, although a free agent, is just another Kim Kallstrom.

In past years, maybe, but we are (hopefully), way beyond buying average players to subsidise our squad.

We should only buy players who can compliment and improve our team.

And Charlie Austin.

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01 Aug 2015 00:38:04
With you all the way dags, until theclast line. Tut tut.

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01 Aug 2015 01:46:00
Maybe have a bid on ibra

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01 Aug 2015 01:46:19
Maybe have a bid on IBRA

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01 Aug 2015 03:28:42
are you dags in disguise?

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31 Jul 2015 17:15:12
Would just like to say thanks to all the Eds for the site and how much information they provide (also the banter) I'm a recent poster and a not a long time poster but even though I'm not, posting my opinions and hearing everyone's feed back is awesome cause I love hearing it from my fellow gooners. Just
like to say coming into the new season! COME ON ARSENAL, whether we win or lose I'll still be here posting through the good and bad times supporting the club I grew up with and love .

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{Ed025's Note - nice to have you with us berg..enjoy the ride mate..

31 Jul 2015 13:54:46
Was just thinking wouldn't Wilshire be s good cdm for us. He seems to get Stuck in well enough

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31 Jul 2015 14:37:36
Yes but I would deploy him instead of le coq against more defensive teams aka chelski

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31 Jul 2015 15:52:22
the biggest problem for it i see is one of his best attributes is running at players with the ball, its great to watch and frightens defenders, but that's the last thing i would want a cdm to do as if he loses the ball he's out of position. i would want a cdm to win the ball, off load the ball and get back in position imo that's not really wilsheres style

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31 Jul 2015 14:31:50
He doesn't have the discipline of le coq, I'd like to see him give ozil a run for the 10 role.

Ed25 have you seen Evertons 3rd kit?

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{Ed025's Note - i have MgM, and im not a big fan yet mate..our lats will look like the hulk..

31 Jul 2015 19:32:52
I think it's a matter of coaching. He and Santi could double pivot well enough when we don't have to worry too much about constantly stopping attacks and should focus on recycling possession, but only so long as he is instructed to sit deep and never dribble, which is sort of a waste of his talents. IMO he's at his best when he's in Santi's position, and a Coquelin/Wilshere duo is the future for me.

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01 Aug 2015 01:46:57
Was just a thought

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31 Jul 2015 13:47:39
What's the issue with Arteta staying? He's taking his coaching badges and I can see him having a coaching role in the future. I'd like to see him retire here as a player and then continue working for Arsenal. Players like Flamini and Rosicky are more useless if you ask me.

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31 Jul 2015 14:23:28
I am surprised we kept any of the three players mentioned. Flamini is the worst by far and I was amazed that anyone would offer £4m for him, it's just a shame he wants to stay.
Rosicky is the best of the three, but he is already injured and he turns 35 in October.
Arteta may be well liked etc, but he had his best days at Everton playing in a more advanced role. He spent most of last season out injured and only played 11 times and is in his 34th year. He looked woeful in the pre-season, paceless.
We need to sign a quality defensive midfield player, having to rely on Arteta or Flamini to cover Coquelin is simply not good enough.

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31 Jul 2015 23:54:09
Agree Robbie

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31 Jul 2015 12:42:03
Its official, Walcott and surprisingly Cazorla have signed new contracts. Source: Arsenal.com

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31 Jul 2015 12:55:10
This is great news for our club

Although the figure getting reported for Theo's contract is he'll be on 140k......hopefully that's untrue because in my eyes he has nowhere near earnt the right to get paid that amount.

Glad to have them both tied down :)

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31 Jul 2015 13:20:09
Great to see Santi sign new contract, after rumours of a return to Spain. Ran the midfield for us last year, a great player.

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31 Jul 2015 15:26:49
Jegooner, I see a few people feel the same way about his reported salary, but it baffles me!

We lost Ashley Cole because we wouldn't stump up the cash and people were unhappy with both the club and player, but he went on to win the Prem and the UCL.

If we'd of sold/released Theo and he'd gone to say Liverpool and knocked in 15-20 goals, people would be going nuts about letting him leave.

Regardless of his injury record, Theo's a very dangerous player, if we can keep him fit, now he's reaching his peak years, we'll have a very good player with us.

That's my penny's worth anyways!

But yeah, Santi signing is a cracking bit of news, along with Ramsey, Özil, Alexis and Koscielny, I really feel he's a player we just can't even entertain losing.

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31 Jul 2015 15:39:50
Theo is the longest serving player currently at the club, maybe loyalty plays a part in that salary? Still a very high wage in my opinion.

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31 Jul 2015 17:16:07
D-

I get what your saying mate but at the end of the day he ain't worth that, that amount is not far behind alexis and mesut n let's be honest he's not in there league.

Don't get me wrong he's a talented boy and i'm made up that he's signed with us again because like you say he can be very dangerous and joining another club (in the prem) would be a massive blow for us, the men upstairs did what they had to do to keep him so fair play.

Glad there onboard for our title fight :)

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31 Jul 2015 18:35:59
I always feel like I'm being a tool when I disagree with people!

I do agree with what you're saying though, it is definetley a lot of money!
I guess it's just the footballing world we live in.

If Theo ends up being poor or having another injury, then I'm going to be eating humble pie!

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31 Jul 2015 20:18:21
I'm hoping he gets deployed up top this season, he could just be that missing piece and we didn't know it, I think I've seen him play there about 7/8 times and in 3 of them he bagged 3 hatricks n got a couple goals in the others.

Complete oposite of giroud so it's a plan B (he'd be plan A for me) with mesut behind him that partnership could be deadly

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31 Jul 2015 21:59:14
Agreed.
Believe it or not, I honestly believe Mesut is the most important key to success for us.

In the last few months of last season, we started to see what Mesut can really do.
The limelight was on Alexis and that meant Özil could go back to doing what he does best, being the creative force, not the one everyone's focused on.

If Mesut can develop an understanding with a striker, then we're going to have a hell of a season.

He's always thrived off having a mobile striker to work with.
Ronaldo/Benzema/Higauin at Real.
Klose/Muller/ for Germany
And by mobile, I don't necessarily mean quick, just ones that find good space, that they can use.
Giroud's just a bit too 'clunky' in that respect for me.
The ball has to come to his feet or his head.

Someone like Theo, or even Welbeck can have the ball played a few yards ahead of them and comfortably beat most defenders in a foot race!

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31 Jul 2015 01:08:37
Ed, who are Arsenal trying to sign at this moment?
I know we hold interest in many players, but which name(s) are our top priority?

Thanks, always

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to any "top priority" type answers and start ranking players.}

30 Jul 2015 22:20:46
Stephenbristow,

In reply to your post.

Yep, would love Charlie Austin at Arsenal.

Hear me out..

We won't get Benzema.
We won't get Higuain.
We won't get Lacazette.
We won't get Pedro.
We can't get Martinez.

We don't want Mandzukic.
We don't need Llorente.

All the top strikers are either unobtainable or attached.

Now, I know Charlie is not high profile, probably because he is English, but he is a damn fine striker with a damn fine pedigree.

He is a proper English No.9.
I'm not saying he is a Lineker or a Shearer, but given the opportunity, he could be a Lineker or a Shearer.

He gives 100%, runs around all day, plays down the middle but runs the lines if he has to, normally plays off the shoulder of the defender and is a proper 'in the box' striker.

18 goals last season playing for a pi55 poor team, with very little service, who got relegated.

He would be happy to bide his time and come off the bench to cover for Giroud if he is playing poorly/suspended/injured.

He is the perfect foil for Giroud and could (I repeat could) do a good job up top on his own, or even with Giroud if we are chasing the game.

He offers us something different to Olly, which will make us less predictable and gives us a much needed plan B.

Trust, he would love to join Arsenal and is an absolute steal at £15m.

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31 Jul 2015 02:43:04
All summer I have been thinking the same thing.

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31 Jul 2015 03:39:56
Well, I'm convinced. You know it's not going to be a good day when you agree with Dags' post first thing in the morning.

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31 Jul 2015 06:26:39
No thanks.....
I would rather persevere with the forward options we already have at our disposal.
Giroud, Welbeck, Walcott & Akpom, can all fill the central striker role. Austini is a mid to lower premiership player. Look what happened when Lambert joined Liverpool..... Clearly not good enough.

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31 Jul 2015 07:54:30
You don't need to convince me dags. I bet there was fans who said 20 odd years ago "who's this muppet were buying from palace" Austin in!

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31 Jul 2015 07:56:32
Robbie,

Lambert is a bad example.
He joined Liverpool 32 years of age and in twilight of his career.

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31 Jul 2015 08:12:52
I'm with you dags and even if you manage to convince people on here how will you convince Mr wenger

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31 Jul 2015 09:39:08
Here is my argument dags.

Giroud is better than Charlie Austin.

We have Walcott and welbeck who can cover so we do not need Charlie as backup.

If arsenal are interested in buying a striker, I want him to be the undisputed no1 and that means giroud is our backup and with such a conundrum it can be nothing but good for arsenal.

im not saying Charlie Austin won't deliver goals. but he is not clinical, and to win the epl we need clinical.

besides to progress in the champions league you need players who are aware of the difference between domestic campaigns and European competitions, as an example I give you west ham.

a very good premier league side, with no experience in Europe, who got in via the fair play rules and have now racked up 5? red cards?

you need smart players at the next level not just physical and technical, and for me Charlie Austin would be a great striker for Newcastle or west brom and west ham, but for a top 4 club he would be nothing more than the 3rd best player.

FACT.

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31 Jul 2015 10:52:32
It's a hard one to accurately sum up. He gets the ball in the area and he puts it away, he has tidy feet and is strong. He has scored lots of goals but if he never gets a chance in a big team we will never know.

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31 Jul 2015 11:25:16
Thing is, Charlie Austin is a good striker for a club where he's one of, if not the key players.
I'm pretty certain that if Austin moved to a bigger club, we'd have a Andy Carroll situation where he'd just flop and be shipped out to another club in a season or 2.

I agree with Laker here, if we're going to sign a striker, it has to be an undisputed first choice player, or don't bother.

Giroud is better than austin, Walcott will be a decent striker if he stays fit too, i reckon.
Welbeck played most of his games out wide for us, i really want to see him given more time as a striker too.

At the end of the day, if it's back up you want, we've got Walcott, Welbeck, Akpom and Alexis who can all play up top.

I get what you're saying about the 'old fashioned english centre forward', but Arsenal are probably the least 'old fashioned' club in the prem!

It's great being a workhorse, but at any top level club, you need a stand out point, that separates you from the rest.

I agree there aren't many top level strikers out there, but if we truly can't pick up someone in the ilk of Benzema, Lewandowski or even (debatable) Lacazette, then, as frustrating as it is to say we should just focus on other areas and come back to a striker next year

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31 Jul 2015 12:58:20
What about the Munich striker the polish guy

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31 Jul 2015 16:16:40
I still think signing welbeck ahead of remy for more cash was crazy

Fags love you to bits but Austin isn't that level mate. Hel do a job for teams outside top 6 tho

We are struggling for targets lewandowski would be epic as would benzema. I live in hope.

Enjoy weekend all

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31 Jul 2015 16:17:35
i would want a first choice striker to come in and giroud to be great second choice, but dags makes a good point if none of the top strikers are available ausin would offer good back up at a reasonable price. in his 1st season in the PL he got 18 in a rubbish side. girouds best is 16, alexis best is 16, walcott got 14 once, santi got 12 once, ramsey got 10 once and welbeck got 9 twice while all playing with better players and getting better service. he would be a safer bet than when we bought giroud or welbeck

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31 Jul 2015 19:45:39
Well said Eden.
Totally agree.

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31 Jul 2015 19:59:27
Lakeville,

How can you end your post with the word FACT?

None of what you posted is fact, just your opinion, which I respect but totally disagree with.

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{Ed025's Note - your jokes are terrible..FACT.. :)

31 Jul 2015 22:11:26
Yep Ed,

Now that is a fact :-)

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