Arsenal Banter Archive December 06 2014

06 Dec 2014 23:33:26
No point even posting about today's game.

Abysmal.

But, trying to remain positive and upbeat.
We all know we have no chance of challenging for title, but I'm just going to cling to the dream we will finish in top 4.

Chelsea and City apart, I still think we are the best out of a very poor chasing pack.

Man Utd scare me a bit.
Southampton will tail off.
Liverpool are average and too inconsistent.
Spurs, well they are just Spurs really.

I still think we are just 2 players away from turning our season around.
When I say 2 players, I mean good players. Players like Hummel's and Schneiderlin will change our fortunes in the January window.

OK, chances of us getting them are slim, wafer thin or anorexic, but we have to believe.

Debuchy and Walcott are close to a return, and boy, do we need them.

We need to have a good festive period, pick up points and get some confidence back into this team.

Keep the faith people.

Now, where did I put my tablets?

Being positive upbeat and optimistic about 4th before the new year even gets here Dags?
Kind of says it all really, we've gone backwards
This time last year the title was ours to lose 12 months on and top four is ours to dream of

It is getting like a broken record Dags! The picture I keep seeing in my head is of Wenger sitting on the bench looking utterly clueless and lost. It really is quite sad to see.

07 Dec 2014 16:53:52
Sad but true Gents.
Sad but true.

06 Dec 2014 22:58:43
Premership players i'd sign. Begavic. Clyne. Alderweireld Wanyama. Schindelrlin. Bony. Benteke

Prem proven players and would make us solid and competitive.

07 Dec 2014 00:21:02
Derby,

Shall we get a few boys together from this site, hire a transit van and kidnap a few Southampton boys? :-)

I wonder if we sign enough Saints players to go with the ones we have if they will let us be the Arsenal Saints - then we could sing their catchy theme song.

Not for me let's be the gunners and get our own players going. Missed Arteta quite a bit today especially with the kids out there.

06 Dec 2014 18:47:12
My thoughts from today's game.

1) Giroud has once again proven that he isn't good enough to lead the line if we're to challenge for silverware. At 1-0 he could have levelled the game with the simplest of headers, he was inside both of the posts and he still managed to put it wide. I've to to think that Welbeck would have buried it.

2) I wish we didn't score those 2 goals. That first half performance was as bad as I've ever seen from us, and though it was a decent fight back, Wenger didn't deserve to be in the position where he could commend our 'strong spirit, and character' as he's such an egomaniac that he'll never admit that he's at fault for the sorry situation we're in at the moment. Fair play to Kroenke for coming out and saying it's not good enough and that we need to buy cover for all areas of the pitch. Might get the old git to pull his finger out for once in the January window.

3) I hope that goal, which was very well taken, is a sign of Ramsey returning to last year's form, he's been in a right rut recently but that goal has to do something for his confidence, maybe now he'l stop trying too hard and just play and enjoy himself.

4) I love Alexis, but he is SO frustrating to watch at times. The amount of times he had a free man to his outside and he either passed or turned inside was ridiculous, as a wide man, he provides us with much needed width and pace, but he's restricting that width by trying to do too much on his own, we'd have probably created to many more chances if he's laid a few balls to the overlapping man.

5) Mertesacker is past his best now. He looked lackadaisical at the best of times, his pace as always been a problem, but more recently he can't get the defence organised like he used to, mis times tackles and fails to pick up and cover runs into the box. I think he'll still make a great squad player but we need to replace him in the starting 11. Let's hope for Hummels but I still doubt we'll sign anyone in January.

So after choosing to not watch three matches, and hearing about the new discipline and tactics we were applying to our game, I thought I'd join the old man at the pub to see this new system for myself. Unfortunately I was treated to the same old Wenger, same old Arsenal, same old crap. So I'm going to resume my boycott of watching games until Wenger either resigns, gets sacked, or makes more than a loan signing in January. I have much better, more enjoyable things to do with my weekends and weekday evenings.

But that won't stop me from ranting on here! I'm still a gooner after all!

Agree mertesacker needs to be sold he's way too slow and clumsy Giroud is not a killer he should of buried the header last week against Southampton he's a squad player just like welbeck. Podolski didn't do much either Campbell deserves a chance. Bellerin shouldn't be too upset he has a better future than most of our back 4 Sanchez is quality should of scored but he needs to pass the ball flamini was pathetic we need 3 players in January 2 cb and 1 holding midfielder

Excellent post.

I agree with all you say. You will still get people backing wenger tho. Zzzz

06 Dec 2014 23:36:41
Can't disagree with any of that.

06 Dec 2014 18:01:03
Dag's we need some jokes to lighten the mood.

The biggest joke today was the ref!

Giroud has gone home looking like he's done 10 rounds with Tyson and chambers gets sent off!

Don't get me wrong I hate excuses but before chambers went off we were on for a big comeback

06 Dec 2014 18:53:49
Couldn't agree more, 337.

Guy was reminiscent of the muppet we had when Villa beat us on the opening day last season.

Guy let so much go and every call went Stoke's way.

I mean football is the most popular sport in the world, and generates more money than one could ever care to imagine, yet officials like this are still allowed into the game. It's an absolute joke that such inconsistencies continue to ruin the sport!

06 Dec 2014 23:15:05
Gooner62,

I think my jokes will make things worse :-)

Dags is probs taking a long hard look in the mirror after being back to wenger in after them lucky wins lol.

07 Dec 2014 09:07:52
You could be right Derby :-)

06 Dec 2014 17:08:51
We just don't have the caliber of players we need to win period only Sanchez and Kos are top quality

It is a much about attitude as ability, we are failing to the basics of defending with any reliability. Basics that any premier league defensive unit should be able to do.

Stoke are effective side because although they may not have real star quality they simply do the basics of the game very well. They are no frills if you like but they play to the their strengths and play the percentages very well.

If Arsenal did the basics as well as Stock then we would be an much more complete side and much closer to Chelsea.

I think deep down we all know it and accept it but its that hope against hope that's keeping us going.
Very few actually think things will change in the near future but everyone of hopes they do

06 Dec 2014 15:40:00
Dear me terrible defending for both goals 2-0 should have been easy clearance for first and nobody picking up the scorer up for the 2nd. Our record at Stoke is just as bad as against the Chelsea and Utd and City.

06 Dec 2014 15:35:00
now 2-0

Stoner

who is the realist .

06 Dec 2014 16:13:15
Banbury its zero to do with being a realist, I don't expect us to win every game and three bankers for an Arsenal loss are Chelsea, United and Stoke.

When you're next out with your intellectual mates and your doing the talking, spin around quick and see who is doing the comedy slashing of their wrists and who is doing the hangman gag.

We're having a rubbish season, which is exactly what you've been hoping for so why so bloody miserable?

Sums you up

Stoke should NEVER be a banker to lose

DOH!!!!

Of course it is everything to do with realism ( check the dictionary chap), I realistically look at a game and see what I think the score will be.

Not shout 3-0 or 4-0 each week.

And no I don't want us to lose each week, just enough to finish 7th to bomb Wenger out.

We are falling further and further behind each season.

By the way I'm not miserable, log burner on, Xmas decorations are up.

Reasons to be cheerful

06 Dec 2014 17:06:36
Jeez there's no help for you fella, I don't predict 3 or 4 nil wins and I don't predict losses to Stoke, City or United.

That was an opinion given in a lower post, another comment by the neg heads. Try and keep up.

Enjoy the Pre packed Christmas dinner for one, you've earned it. ;-)

If you read my posts I don't recall saying you did predict a 3 or 4 nil win? Please, I might be wrong. .but I doubt it.

I can't keep up if I am so far in front of you . . . .surely.

It's not pre-packed, the chef cooks it and the waitress serves it.

Simple :)

06 Dec 2014 17:40:41
This is hella confusing

06 Dec 2014 17:49:07
In your dreams Banbury, in your dreams! Lol. :-)

06 Dec 2014 14:41:03
Chelsea get beat meaning our record stays . . . . . . . for this season at least

I can't pretend I'm not relieved.

06 Dec 2014 12:31:13
AW this is how we need to play - like its the last chance you will have to ever pull on that red and white shirt or have the cannon on your chest!

"Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted. one moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?"

Play this in the changing room and when the players come out.

Be proud to wear the cannon and play for you, the team and the fans.

06 Dec 2014 13:20:28
Play the newly discovered unreleased version. It's so much better but for the chorus

06 Dec 2014 23:16:54
SY4,

That's my fav song, love it.

07 Dec 2014 00:30:47
I'm telling you dags google the unreleased version. They stumbled across this year when going through all the Shady Records Label songs for the the 15th year special anniversary album. Eminem didn't even know he recorded it he was so out of his mind at the time. It's amazing but for the chorus

06 Dec 2014 11:03:04
what I will say is, sooner or later we are going to hammer someone with the amount of chances we create, the Man U, WBA and Southampton games have seen us create so many chances with a very poor conversion rate, that will change .

Clean sheets has to be where we start though

06 Dec 2014 11:31:34
I hope so but for 18mnts it's not unusual for us to have 20 chances a game, and not score more than 2, if that even.

06 Dec 2014 10:32:40
Hi guys. Been away a while. Dags, G65, Banbury, Red Dog. Good to be back. Haven't posted in a while, but I have been reading every post as it comes up. I can see 337 is an up and coming joke-star while Dags is still to find his funny bone :).

Nervous about Stoke, we have enough injuries as it is. I hope we come away unscathed. 19 teams in the EPL play football and they play more of rugby lol.

I can see G62 is now a convert. I wouldn't call it the "Wenger out brigade", but something more subtle like "Thank you for your time, it's time to move on Arsene brigade" :). Welcome aboard G62. Come May 2015, Dags, Red Dog and 337 will all be part of the crew :)

On a more serious note, I am hoping for 3 points. A nice and comfy 3 nil victory will do us a world of good going into the Christmas period.

Come on you Gunners!

Thanx rue,

I am in the "AW needs an assistant like Henry or Bergkamp and should only move on once we have a replacement within brigade"

And as for Dags, I think he is very funny but don't tell him.

06 Dec 2014 12:45:19
Rue,

You can count me in the Wenger in brigade and reading all the "Thank you for your time, it's time to move on Arsene brigade" it was interesting to see, as it nearly always happpens, than none of them replied to Red Dogs post and Dagenhams reply.

There was so much truth in them both that just gets washed aside because people don't look at the big picture, just little snap shots of either other managers or teams through Wengers tenure.

I genuinely believe he will come good.

Hi Rue there comes a time when no matter how much you want someone to be right you've got to just accept the facts not everyone but them can be wrong.
Arsene has baffled us all at times over the years with his decisions tactic's and selectios but as they say you can fool some of the people some of the time, but theose people are getting fewer and fewer by the week both on and off the pitch

06 Dec 2014 18:45:38
Welcome back Rue.

And thank you 337, lol.

Stoner, you are so correct my friend.