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26 Aug 2013 12:37:46
liverpool fan here.(eds please do post my thoughts because I hate being cut off).


After the CL qualification, again the suarez rumour is getting rounds. For that matter guys there no time left for us to find a replacement even if real come with 70-80milns. Suarez is in his last season in epl. As simple as that.

Now again not here to taunt or anything but reading the rumours abt rooney, suarez, mata which seem unrealistic(at the moment), wenger is not paying attention to other key departments.

Just for eg. We signed kolo toure on free, and yup one can point out at his age but truth is he is a rock solid defender yes he still is, point is to improve a squad u don't nead a mega merque star signing.
Your keeper and defense needs some twiching, begovic and another powerful CB would just cost 20-25miln.
And it would be worth a time and money then westing it on suarez, rooney. Defesive solidity is the base of every winning team. Winger-strikers come and go, it won't effect at all if a team is solid at the back and middle.

And another thing I notice is,
How on earth wenger always looks for a world class wingers/strikers/midfielders while let's face it the defensive signings he has made are never at that lavel, all are just avg. don't know if the profite politics is involded as suarly defenders don't have that profite/resale value as the MF/STRIKER has. But other truth is that is the only reason for no trophy in last few years.

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1.) Wenger himself has ruled out signing suarez, so I think we can finally put that one to bed, at least as far as arsenal are concerned.

I get your points and I agree we need a top class GK and another good CB a long side Kos would be very good.

Wenger, generally speaking, hasn't been too gr8 at signing CB's.

We are a little short up front and in midfield. Really we need 4-5 players to have a chance of competing for anything this season imo.

As always, see what happens.


2.) We haven't signed world class defenders?

Koscielny? Sagna? Vermaelen? These are some of the top players in their respective positions. (Vermaelen when on form)

How can you say wingers and strikers don't effect a team that is solid at the back? Bale and Suarez have a rather large impact on teams. Barca a quite solid at the back but Messi seems to help them out.


3.) As a liverpool fan you should be more worried about your defense. last season we had the second best defensive record better then liverpools so where do you get we are defensively bad?
as for suarez we tried and didn't get him happens you won't get the same money next year.


4.) The reason we didn't sign toure is because Wenger wouldn't be able to give him first team football when our defenders are all fit unlike Liverpool who don't have a better option


5.) Vermaelen? When he is fit? What is the point in being world class if he is not fit.

And I know as a fan your going to rate them higher but I don't think arsenal cb's are the level of chevesky, manc, or madrid teams u wish to compete with.

U your self told the problem. Yup the r good on the ball but they r not the forceful beast like a epl CB should b. And biggest problem being the are alaways unfit.

And I didn't said that they are bad defenders just that they r not the level u wish to achive. In last 8 ys player like nasri, fab, rvp, corzola, and many more have playied for u but, just compare the cb u have had, u would find the difference in quality. Some of the defenders like vertogen, cahill transferd in last few years and they r much better thatn urs.


6.) @ thenry2468,

that may be true sure, but that is why we finished 7nt and u 4th,

the point not abt who is better, the point is abt finding out the problem in the squad.
BR has already signed mignolet, toure, sissokho, and trying for another CB. What is wenger doing abt your defense . Jost because u had better record than us doesn't mean u don't need to improve in that, he is more busy in westing time on suarez and rooney, then improving these basic departments. Is the point.

The reasults of which already showing, though its early, we have had 2 clean sheets while already 4 goals scored against u. And the basic point ais u want to compete for top not with us.


 

 

 

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@ thenry2468,

that may be true sure, but that is why we finished 7nt and u 4th,

the point not abt who is better, the point is abt finding out the problem in the squad.
BR has already signed mignolet, toure, sissokho, and trying for another CB. What is wenger doing abt your defense . Jost because u had better record than us doesn't mean u don't need to improve in that, he is more busy in westing time on suarez and rooney, then improving these basic departments. Is the point.

The reasults of which already showing, though its early, we have had 2 clean sheets while already 4 goals scored against u. And the basic point ais u want to compete for top not with us.

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Vermaelen? When he is fit? What is the point in being world class if he is not fit.

And I know as a fan your going to rate them higher but I don't think arsenal cb's are the level of chevesky, manc, or madrid teams u wish to compete with.

U your self told the problem. Yup the r good on the ball but they r not the forceful beast like a epl CB should b. And biggest problem being the are alaways unfit.

And I didn't said that they are bad defenders just that they r not the level u wish to achive. In last 8 ys player like nasri, fab, rvp, corzola, and many more have playied for u but, just compare the cb u have had, u would find the difference in quality. Some of the defenders like vertogen, cahill transferd in last few years and they r much better thatn urs.

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