07 Oct 2014 23:05:52
Is there anyone who thinks Jack is our king in waiting that doesn't also think Arsene is the best manager we could ever hope to have?
Does it follow if you love one you also love you the other?
Anyone a Jack fan but not Arsene or vice versa?

1.) 08 Oct 2014
I don't get the point of this question. I'm still one of the few remaining who have faith in wenger, but I don't think that has any effect on my opinion on any of the players.
for me ramsey is the future of arsenal, and wilshere will also be a big player for us.

2.) 08 Oct 2014
I think Wilshere trusts Wenger, but if we don't challenge regularly for honours, he may be tempted to go the way other top players have and leave the club.
However, he must realise that Wenger is wrong in continuing with Flamini & Arteta who need replacing and not having sufficient defensive cover.
I am hoping that none of the Arsenal defenders play in the internationals, as we need them until January.

3.) 08 Oct 2014
08 Oct 2014 06:50:42
Waq1 mate you are far from the only one, 8 people voted to say it was time for Arsene to go and you can bet your bottom dollar that 3 of them were spurs or Mancs.

It just seems that way fella as the 5 or 6 Wenger out merchants have been left to come up with another reason to beat him with every day, hence they've pretty much been left to it.

What was a great page is well, just a miserable read every day.

4.) 08 Oct 2014
Fair play Red dog, then change the subject mate?
There's no exclusivity button for starting posts off mate I'd be very happy to talk about something different

5.) 08 Oct 2014
Here we go, my neck is stuck out but I have big shoulders to take it. For me Wenger is a WORLD class manager, and the day he leaves us will be a grey day in North London. I hear you all discussing about tactics. Wenger changed the tactics for the game, something he wouldn't usually do, yes we lost, and? The league or top 3 can be won without beating the top 5 as sad as it sounds and yes I know its not ideal however, would you rather beat some of the top 5 and get 5th in the prem or lose to the top 5 and win the league? I dare any one of you come out and say the former and I definitely will know your a Spurs fan!!. We lost against Chelsea, Cesc came back to haunt us (from hero to zero in one game lol) (something we are currently used to), but I didn't realise the premiership was over after 7 games. Some fans on here are starting to sound like Newcastle fans, and look what impact that's having on their club. Listen, I was gutted that we lost to Chelsea, if i'm honest more gutted that we lost to Mourinho, as much as I love his presence in the premiership, I think he takes its slightly too far sometimes. On a different note, I loved the passion that Wenger shows, that man does not mess about, he's took on Moyes, Pardew, Ferguson and Mourinho, don't mess with Le Prof. I also loved the fact that John Terry nearly got his head kicked in by Wilshere lol, Not great at lip reading but that was clear as day what was said, and I totally agree John Terry is a . Anyway I drifted, but Wenger all day long for me, sorry guys. Bring on the pelters.

6.) 08 Oct 2014
08 Oct 2014 10:17:52
g62 I'm just being honest, this is the Arsenal page, the obvious few are unhappy so that's what they are going to express because that's what they feel.

It doesn't make for pleasant or enjoyable reading that's a fact.

I've seen analogies to houses, talk of spending more money than Chelsea, higher wage bills, a nauseating love in of the low life pond dwelling oxygen thief that is Jose Mourinho.

Anyone can look on the down side and pour scorn on anyone who has an inkling of an understanding or belief.

We all wanted to see a quality DM another CB and a better class of striker, I can accept that Welbeck actually brings a lot to our team but is not an Aguero or a Costa.

We have been linked to various DM's but none are here, Carvalho certainly showed against Chelsea he is far from the finished article. Schneiderlin and Wanyama are yet to come up against Chelsea this season and will do as a pair, let's see how they fair.

Khedira and Rabiot are not DM, Manolas wanted first team football, Javi Martinez was a rumoured target, injury put paid to that, if it was the case.

Both City and Chelsea after spending untold millions over years, not just 2 years, have finally added the last pieces in Mangala and Costa. They are now rained in by FFP hence the reason we have spent more than Chelsea and bar Costa and Matic we have as good if not better anywhere else.

There is little doubting the quality of their respective squads, the collective result of spending 100's of million of pounds over 5 or more years.

Whilst they've been doing this Wenger has had to penny pinch which is exactly why we have the likes of Mertesacker, Podolski, Arteta and others, we were spending a maximum of £16 million whilst they were happily paying double that with wages to match. Buy cheap buy twice but what alternative was there.

Wenger has had two summer windows with the ability to spend, there is little doubt he has improved the squad but it is not yet complete. Come next summer I expect it to be, I expect us to go into games against City, Chelsea and United on a truly level playing field, when people won't question plans or tactics because we will have lost to the better team if that's the case, as we did against Chelsea on Sunday as gutting as it was. Yet still people assume we can batter them. Most expected us to finish 3rd but I think now some imagine we are going to get relegated.

The notion that Ozil was not a Wenger signing just beggars belief, backed up by nothing.

None of us have insider knowledge as to why we didn't get the elusive DM or CB but Arsene doesn't have to settle for players he doesn't rate. He will wait to get the right player. I simply, where others don't, have faith that he will.

If you're honest if we had a quality DM in front of our back four against Chelsea and we still lost no one would mention tactics or plans as they didn't when our team bristled with the likes of Petit, Bergkamp, Henry and Viera.

Do you imagine what was Arsene's finished article at that time would be concerned about teams like Chelsea, City and United, we went into those games as an equal if not better, until our squad is complete yes we can be unhappy but some of the stuff to me just shows a lack of understanding to look at the big picture.

But that's nothing new for fans of a lot of clubs.

I'm with you daywalker, all day long on twice on Sunday's! :-)

7.) 08 Oct 2014
Lose to the top 5 and win the league? that's never going to happen and never will.

8.) 08 Oct 2014
He's took on moyes! ha

9.) 08 Oct 2014
Red dog. we all be more complete next season but we should of added more this summer. playing catch up again

do you think city chelsea and manu won't be adding in the summer? of course they will

10.) 08 Oct 2014
08 Oct 2014 13:15:27
Derby that's what big clubs do in every league and United will more so than most next season. They didn't buy players to replace Carrick, Vidic and Ferdinand and they had a mountain of cash.

We didn't get the DM and CB but if you yourself were looking to buy something and weren't happy with what models were on offer, would you make do with players like Vlaar and Tiote, or would you wait for far better.

Just a little realism would be nice for the whole picture instead of continuous little snap shots of gloom.

11.) 08 Oct 2014
Red dog. manu have had two managers after fergie so its been a little bit of a mess. but wengers been here 18years now and is yet to replace a viera, petit, gilberto. and I think since sol left all our centre backs have been worse than him. how many goal keepers have we had since seaman.

if he went for schneiderlin early we could of got him before the fire sale. i'd of been happy with diame over arteta flamini 3.5mill bargain.

G. Kondogbia is available monaco would sell if the price was right, he's a beast and is only 21

garay left this summer for 15 million euros, he's better than merts all day long.

Stefan de Vrij and martins indi (born winner that boy) both were sold the cheap prices and would of added to our squad

stop making excuses for wenger mate

12.) 08 Oct 2014
08 Oct 2014 15:44:18
I'm far from making excuses and managers has nothing to do with it, Mourinho made do with Ba and Eto' until he got his man.

Those are your opinions of players that Wenger has side stepped or they simply decided to go else where. United were linked with all of the defenders, Van Gaal bought none of them but you want them here, no one is linked to Kondogbia for a reason, he's dog average.

It's no different to people who previously wanted the likes of Nani, Holtby, Capoue or Diame here, all proved themselves to be mid table team players, you would probably settle for Ashley Williams too.

People now want to lay blame for everything at his door.

He is done in your mind and nothing is going to change it, that's your choice. Like I said mate we all have differing opinions.

13.) 08 Oct 2014
Red dog agreed jose had to put up with ba and torres but at his next possible chance he got rid of them. Costa was available for us too but wenger didn't think he was worth it. We still have sonogo who we all know will never be good enough.

Kondogbia or Arteta. No brainer mate. People can't tell me diame for that price is a poor buy.