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31 Jul 2018 09:26:39
Only tabloid gossip so nothing to serious but should it by any chance be true Aaron to Chelsea for 30 million?
I'd take it big time.


1.) 31 Jul 2018 11:59:25
I wouldn't. He's an important goal contributor from midfield and competing with Xhaka for a place should bring out the best of both. For a player like Ramsey, who's been consistently one of the better midfielders in the league, and counts as homegrown, we should be demanding 50 minimum. It's bonkers, but so is everything else now.

2.) 31 Jul 2018 15:10:56
How can be one of the most consistent when he isn't consistently available wire mate
If he was that good why ain't we fighting the opposition off with a stick for his signature?

3.) 31 Jul 2018 19:15:05
Wire - with a year left on his contract we not going to get anywhere near 50Mill for Ramsey 30Mill tops and that might be pushing it tbh. Ramsey is a bit of a oddity in our side as he is actually one of the few offensively that are better without the ball than with the ball making some really good runs in the box he is kind of what Lampard used to be like in that sense. Yes he is a decent player but we have better in Ozil for his preferred position and he is replacable without doubt with equal or better with targets we could get. Maybe it is not down to money so much maybe he is not keen on the demands of Emery, and misses the protection of father figure Wenger and if that is the case good riddance we need all of them 100% on board and behind the coach. Out with the old cosy club and in with the new.

4.) 31 Jul 2018 22:41:04
G62 consistent in that he's averaged 6 goals and 6 assists a season in the league for the last 5 years. His return from deeper midfield is fairly steady. See what you mean on the contract situation though.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 12:28:08
Fair point Wire mate but with the lack of interest in Aaron from others so far 30 million might be ambitious.
Ox had both Liverpool and Chelsea chasing him last season but so far Aaron has no one very excited about signing him.
Just wondering what we see in Aaron Liverpool city Chelsea and Spurs don't see.



22 Jul 2018 18:29:27
Just searched Arsenal rumours and we are either about to give Iwobi a new contract or Lazio are looking to sign him.
Difficult to either is true.
Poor old Danny Welbeck seems the only player who we aren't prepared to offer a new deal, Iwobi Xhaka Chambers have all struggled and performed below Danny's level for us yet get new deals while Danny who is hardly a world beater but has done much better than the other 3 seems no longer required.


1.) 22 Jul 2018 23:01:59
Chambers? I thought he did well the end of the season.

2.) 23 Jul 2018 07:01:01
I hope the lazio rumours are true. how he kept getting in the team was one of last season's great mysteries!

3.) 23 Jul 2018 09:38:34
Excited about the Iwobi deal, gives us a player that doesn't stink of Wenger too much but has the morals of the club, ticks a couple of boxes there! He's been on and off but can develop into a zaha kind of a player. If not the actual potential but the kind of things he does on the pitch, stay wide AND cut inside-Emery loves, can cross and press, I think that is what Emery would want/ can get out of him. Looking forward to watching the BIG17 grow under UE. What do you guys think?

4.) 23 Jul 2018 11:55:02
Total waste of space, needs to be shipped out, i'm sure we have a younger player with more talent waiting to come through.

5.) 23 Jul 2018 16:20:32
If Iwobi Stays then i am not happy with Emery one bit he is by far the worst Arsenal winger I’ve seen in a long time.

6.) 23 Jul 2018 23:26:26
Although it was against a beach ball and flip flop wearing Burnley playing deeper Iwobi actually looked better than awful, if he was to have any future at Arsenal it's not out on the wing where the linesman is more involved then Iwobi 99 games out of 98.

7.) 24 Jul 2018 00:04:30
To be fair iwobi looked a decent player at first but stagnated like many. I think we really should give the lad another season or maybe a loan. Always seemed like there's potential there for me. Funny tho a lot of other fans at my work think he looks a decent player.



28 May 2018 17:05:09
Papawhatever Greek lad is about to join us according to Ornstein and the bbc main page.
Not 100% certainty but as close as it gets to being one in the world of footie rumours.


1.) 29 May 2018 20:45:42

{Ed025's Note - i can but only if you reply to the original post SY..

2.) 29 May 2018 21:11:56

{Ed025's Note - it never showed on that thread so must have already been deleted mate..



19 May 2018 10:00:38
According to David Ornstein the feeling within Arsenal amongst the staff is that Artetta is going to be our next manager but Ornstein himself says Allgeri is still very much in the running and is still very doable.




20 Mar 2018 21:50:12
Out of interest if Southampton were to win the FA cup this season and avoid relegation should their fans consider they've had a good season?

By the same token if Arsenal were to win the europa league and finish 6th 13 points behind 4th place and 33 points behind the champions have we had a good season?

Interesting question because I think most saints Fans would say this season has been horrible fa cup or no fan cup but I think a lot of Arsenal fans would be prepared to forget about all the awful league performances and results and just relish in the winning of another trophy.


1.) 21 Mar 2018 09:50:58
the objective of football is to win.

win a trophy at the end of a season is to me a successful season.

no one has the divine right to win anything, and I think fans are feeling too entitled these days. I love how everyone thinks its bants to say something funny but not take it when something is funny against you.

Arsenal fans having a meltdown on twitter and outside the emirates, like wenger has decided to ruin the club.

get allegri they shout or whoever else, yes I can understand the frustration, but trust me it does not turn around in a season, sometimes it takes a few years.

I was talking to a fan recently who said I want to enjoy the success Barcelona and marid have had, well we don't have either one of the key players those teams have, and you take away that key player from Madrid and Barcelona and xavi and iniesta or modric and kroos can pass all they want they will not get the result.

the landscape will change eventually until then while this season is not the way any of us hoped, i'm still optimistic, and I want to see it out, however bad it is, and any trophy for me seen with my own two eyes a real victory.

2.) 21 Mar 2018 10:37:33
So Larker mate, have you enjoyed this season? Has it been a good enjoyable season for you?
If not will it suddenly become one if we lift the europa league cup and if we don't will it be an awful season.
Will being out of top 4 contention despite still having 10 games to play and will it being mathematically impossible to win the title despite having those 10 games left not mater anymore if we lift the europa?
What about Burnley being our main competition with 10 games left rather than utd city and co?
Can a cup win really make all that disappear?
Will all suddenly be ok?

I agree the next manager will need time to get things back on track it's a really big job and as for becoming Barcelona or Real that's just silly talk but becoming competitive over 38 games again shouldn't be beyond a club like Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have both made huge strides towards becoming competive again in the last couple of seasons why can't we?

3.) 21 Mar 2018 21:03:44
Regardless of any trophy, the league tells you if you are progressing or not. That is the yardstick not winning a cup, that is just a good day out.

4.) 22 Mar 2018 07:44:52
If we were to win the EL and finish 6th of course it's a successful season. Trophies are the target. Arsenal will always be FA Cup winners in 2017, 2015 and 2014 and if we win the EL, we will be winners of it in 2018. Will anyone in 5 years time ever take seriously the fact that the toot qualified for the CL? We will have won 4 trophies in 5 seasons, whilst other clubs such as the Toot and Liverpool won't have won any. Did we get a trophy for finishing 2nd to PL winners Leicester or does anyone really remember it? Last season Man U win the League Cup and the EL, I can't off the top of my head recall the position they finished in the League. Who finished second to Chelsea last season escapes me, but I know Man U win the EL.

5.) 22 Mar 2018 08:43:25
It's the league that accounts for the majority of games each season RG mate and its the league that dictates your standing and competiveness in the game.
Is it really ok for a club like Arsenal to be a cup team only?
If so then it wouldn't matter if we were relegated as long as we won the fa cup each year.
38 league games v 5 fa cup matches! Is that really enough to keep the fans waiting more?
Judging by the empty seats at the Emirates lately obviously not.
People want to see Arsenal being competitive both in head to head games and over 38 league games with the other big clubs.
The league table never lies but as Wigan and Portsmouth fans will tell you the fa cup often misleads.
Season tickets at Arsenal are extortionate prices and suddenly become more expensive still if we accept a 5 game season when we are in competitive mode.
I wonder how long Klopp Poch Mourinho Conti and Pep would last with 6th place and a cup each year and everyone in football in total agreement that Liverpool Spurs United Chelsea or City were in steady decline?
My guess is not to long fa cup or no fan cup.

6.) 22 Mar 2018 16:29:32
I get it gunner, i'm not blind, but I can't be asked to over react. I am going to give it one more year, there has been a push to make some statements, we have ozil, and aubameyang, I don't rate mikhitaryan, our defense and gk is woeful and that balance is just not there.

I do not see the need to keep wilshere, its guys like him we pine for on sentiments that keeps the club where it is.

Ramsey is another who has one good game every 10 and is injured most year, and i'm sure he will thrive in another setup be it man utd or Chelsea or wherever.

GK has to be a priority, a CB has to be another, another season of lacazette and aubameyang fighting it out should be good for the squad, welbeck stays purely for numbers.

Ive no idea what the club are going to do, if dembele is an option we should go for him.

Santi and per and cech and ospina have to head out the door.

we have done well to let go of giroud and sanchez and get something back in return.

if there is to be serious change I would give it another 2 years before we see ourselves competing again, right now we just don't have the depth or balance to pull of a consistent league standing.

7.) 22 Mar 2018 19:38:28
It would be interesting to ask Wigan fans and manager if they would swap winning the fa cup for non relegation that year. What was/ is most important, winning the fa cup and having a great day out, or being able to stay in the prem. Yes they have won the fa cup but they are now a championship also ran and out of the prem and all of its financial clout and kudos.

{Ed033's Note - i remember that a few people on here thought it would be a good idea for Arsenal to finish just outside the top 4 so Arsenal could win the Europa League.

8.) 23 Mar 2018 08:46:26
I think most of us who thought missing out on top 4 would be a good thing thought it would force change to happen so be taking a step back to take 10 forward but unfortunately we've taken a step back but change hasn't come so we've continued to go backwards.
This decline has been coming for years and we have as a club manager and fans refused to accept it, we've been lucky that United got it wrong when replacing Fergie meaning United freed up a champions league spot that had previously already been spoken for, we were lucky that in 2016 season all the big boys had a season off and Spurs bottled it on the last day at Newcastle to allow us to grab second place 14 points behind Leicester.
Now all the big boys are back up and running and all but Chelsea are stronger than at any point in the last 5 years our refusal to accept what was plain to see and act accordingly has caught up with us and been fully exposed for all to see.
Are we finally ready for change now? Not quite :-) we're still thinking about whether we need to change or not;-)
Do we blame Arsene the players for where we are now or the board or ourselves?
A combination of all 4 in my opinion because we were in David Camerons words pretty much all in this together, the vast majority of fans plates and board members were happy to carry on as always under Arsene.




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15 Aug 2018 21:38:51
Nacho is available for Chelsea game if Dick thinks he's match fit.
Kol Kos and Maitland Niles only 3 players not available for Saturday.
4 3 3
With Torreira Guendouzi Elney in the middle Ozil in the hole behind Lacasette and Pea both down the middle.


1.) 15 Aug 2018 23:10:23
Tori, Guen and Laca have to start IMO.

2.) 15 Aug 2018 23:48:57
Can't play Xhaka and shouldn't try to make Ozil Miki Laca and Pea all fit in somewhere somehow.
A result would give us all a lift and get out new start off the launch pad.

3.) 15 Aug 2018 23:48:34
No wingers? No chance, never happen.

4.) 15 Aug 2018 23:50:12

Bellerin, Sokratis, Mustafi, Nacho

Ozil, Torreira, Guendouzi, Mkhitaryan

Aubameyang and Lacca

Mavropanos - replace Mustafi at some point.



13 Aug 2018 19:46:54
Just been speaking to someone who was at yesterday's game and he said some fans started leaving the ground after 60 minutes and by 75 minutes around a third of the crowd had left the stadium.
Anyone else there who can comment on this?
I've absolutely no reason to doubt this man because he's a true Gooner who is extremely positive about the future.
Why do people bother going to the game at all if your not going to watch it all?


1.) 13 Aug 2018 20:17:29
Hopefully it’s a message to the board - we need funds to compete or we will turn our back on you. Fed up seeing us not compete - on and off the pitch

Liverpool spent more on a keeper than we did on our entire squad

Hopefully not a message to Emery as he needs time and support.

2.) 13 Aug 2018 20:46:00
They maybe wanted to get home to watch the athletics.

3.) 13 Aug 2018 20:46:16
If it's a message it's got to ^ say the next message is 4 moths long " :-)
We spent 100 million on 2 players last season mate and finished up worse than for 22 years.
I'm not sure what's going to happen financially at the club and neither is anyone else because the future hadn't happend yet but to give up and go home an hour into the new managers rein seems strange to me, why on earth bother attending in the first place?

4.) 13 Aug 2018 20:56:47
Pool spent that also last season - how much on a centrehalf?

5.) 13 Aug 2018 20:57:36
May be the crowd took a leaf out of Worku‘s book and misjudged the end of the game.

6.) 13 Aug 2018 21:32:53
How much did Jurgen spend in his first season mate?
Maybe Dick will take us to a Europa league final in year one like Jurgen without spending a fortune?
It's such early days to know anything.

7.) 13 Aug 2018 21:53:14
Ignoring 142m crazy income from Barcelona sale. So not looking at net spend.

He’s spent - 19 Players Bought: £382,850,000

175m this window.



12 Aug 2018 18:55:20
Torreira comes from a town called fray bentos in Uruguay, we need him to show us he's full of beef and gristle because we've got more than enough puff pastry in the midfield already.


{Ed025's Note - nice one mate..

1.) 12 Aug 2018 19:09:53
Like it. yeah how well Torreira settles is going to be vital to how well we do this season and having that slim chance of top 4 still. He already looks like the first name on teamsheet to me, let's hope he stays injury free.

2.) 12 Aug 2018 19:22:16
Our chances top 4 were always as outsiders of 6 before today's game and I don't think this result will have changed our chances one way or the other because at least 2 of the other big 5 clubs will also get beaten by city at home this season in my opinion.



12 Aug 2018 16:56:06
45 minutes into the new managers Arsenal career against the best team in England, I always thought it might take a little longer than that to put right what's been wrong for a decade.
It's not good in fact we are exactly where we were last season but that was after 22 years of planning and team building so let's give change a little bit longer before we get to disheartened.


1.) 12 Aug 2018 17:49:37
Agree gunner, for me what was sad was the performances from the serial offenders of dross performances, xhaka bellerin ozil myki and ramsey, from the experienced side. I also think the 433 formation should be binned asap.

2.) 12 Aug 2018 17:51:18
From another angle, it was a babtism of fire for Emery and this inherited squad of flakey players.

3.) 12 Aug 2018 18:07:47
Not going to slate them too much after all it was Man City who are pretty well ahead of everybody at present. Agree Though Steve Bellerin and Xahka in particular are weak links. I think a 3-5-2 would be better for us especially against the better teams.

4.) 12 Aug 2018 18:13:37
It won't get any tougher Steve that's for sure, we are not in the champions league so City are the best side we will face this season.
Chelsea away next week is obviously no walk in the park but we need to see improvement on today even if it's not dramatic improvement that produces 3pts or even 1pt it has to be better simply because Chelsea are not city.
Xhaka voted worst player by Arsenal and neutral fans alike in a fan player rating poll, no one got high marks for us, it was a mixed bag for the other players you mentioned Steve but it does seem Xhaka performance was the one everyone agreed on the most.
I can't see why people rate him but hopefully I might as the season goes on but I'm sure the team will improve more and more as the season goes on but Xhaka? He's got his work cut out to win me over personally.

5.) 12 Aug 2018 18:17:37
For me Lacazette and Aubameyang should be starting every game and Emery should be choosing one of Ramsey and Ozil. Actually was pleased with the play of the centre halves there was one very lazy play with Mustafi when he was 1 v 1 with Sterling but other than that I was actually impressed with the partnership Emery chose. It was the play of the full backs that was woeful and appalling. Guendouzi’s a nice player in the midfield but he should be playing with Torreira not Xhaka. Believe it or not I was actually kind of encouraged by the match and believe when Emery nails down a regular starting XI they’re going to be a diificult side to play against.

6.) 12 Aug 2018 18:27:56
4 4. 2 - drop Rambo and change formation against the stronger sides.

Centre midfield partnership let us down again for both goals.

Bellerin, Sokratis, Mustafi ( replace long=term ) , Need a proper left back

Ozil, Torreira, Guendouzi, Mkhitaryan

Aubameyang and Lacca.

7.) 12 Aug 2018 18:35:24
Agree Quoth Aubu and lacazette should start to develop a potential deadly partnership. I think it is too much of a luxary to have both Xakha and Ramsey starting. Torreira and Guendouzi or Elneny should start as the DM's with Ramsey further forward.

{Ed025's Note - i would have ramsey further back on the bench..

8.) 12 Aug 2018 18:38:25
I was baffled by ramseys position in the team today, he seemed to be playing CF most of the game and did nothing, auba, myki and ozil for most of the game looked as though they didn't know where they should be. Unfortunately niles was woeful at left back, was completely found out, lich looked far better.

9.) 12 Aug 2018 18:45:20
I don’t think the starting XI will be the same against Chelsea, Laca should start, Xhaka shouldn’t, it was as difficult as it gets today.

{Ed025's Note - very tough start bambam which is just what you dont want with a new manager and new players, chelsea up next is tough as well but then you will settle i hope and we should see the team develop from there..

10.) 12 Aug 2018 18:50:23
I would have Ramsey playing deeper than that still Ed025 mate, deep in Europe Spain Germany France or Italy asap before thier window closes, if we can find a buyer.
20 million now is better than nothing next summer for a non committed showboat player who thinks he's much better than he really is.

{Ed025's Note - i want to argue with you mate...but i cant..

11.) 12 Aug 2018 18:53:50
Yeah Steve AMN was targeted for sure today but it is not his fault he is not LB but having both our usual LB's out left us hamstrung in that sense. Torreira has to be starter now. Agree Ramsey does not seem to know what role he fits into. If Xakha is to play he should be further forward and have Torriera and Elneney/ Guendouzi as the the two DM's then Miki, Ozil and Xhaka or Ramsey ahead in the 3 behind Both Aubu and Lacazette drop the fullbacks and go 3 at the back. Bellerin is weak link and needs dropping have a back 3 of Monreal (Kos when he is back) Mustafi and Sokratis. Leno should be given a chance as number 1.

12.) 12 Aug 2018 21:44:37
Banbury, i not only think the personnel will change, i think myki will be changed, i think torreira will play and i think the formation will have to change. It wouldn't surprise e to see lich start, left or right back.



11 Aug 2018 09:37:58
Hi Ed001 will the Eds be doing their match predictions each week this season?


{Ed001's Note - that had completely slipped my mind! That is certainly the plan, we will just have to start from next week as I am forgetful and completely forgot to ask them all this week.}

1.) 11 Aug 2018 10:19:35
Cool Ed, I really enjoyed reading last seasons predictions and who can Forget that weekend when Ed025 actually got one right?
Wow what a weekend that was :-)

{Ed001's Note - did that really happen? I assumed it was just a bad dream, as I had eaten cheese before bed that night....}

2.) 11 Aug 2018 11:28:41
It actually did happend in some dim distant different dimension in the cosmic multi universe somewhere, Croydon I think it was :-)

3.) 11 Aug 2018 20:00:08
I liked ed007s player of the season nominations! 😂.




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09 Aug 2018 22:01:05
Obviously colder countries have seasons that run from spring to October so it's pretty impossible to sinc all leagues and windows.
English clubs don't have to sell to other countries just because their window is still open.




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08 Aug 2018 13:40:34
The most sellable seem to be Danny and Ramsey, obviously Mustafi but only if a replacement was lined up.
Can't who else we'd be prepared to part with who has any real resale value.
Might get 30 for Aaron 15 for Danny and 20 for Mustafi.




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08 Aug 2018 09:17:49
We've never seen Stan without Arsene calling the shots and advising him.
Now we have Dick and Sven working with Stan and Stan junior so let's wait and see.
It's a completely different set up now and a world away from Arsene trying to be a jack of all trades running the club virtually single handedly.
We should give change a chance especially those of us for moaned kicked and screamed for years for it to happen.




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08 Aug 2018 08:42:00
I was Arsene out simply because he had demonstrated time and again he had lost touch with what it takes to be competive in the modern game.
If Arsene had stayed on this season I would felt extremely negative about the season ahead but if he'd stayed on and accepted help by bringing in a top quality number 2 with new ideas Arsene was prepared to accept and work with them my attitude would have been different.
Stan and Dick haven't failed repeatedly yet simply because along with the new backroom they form a brand new set up that unless you are phycic or time traveler from the future none of us know what they can or can't produce together.
Change is here and we need to give it a chance not simply dig our heals in because we don't like the who owns the club.
We can look for the improvements that come this season or we can look for the same old problems and take great pleasure in highlighting everything that goes wrong as being down to Stan, it's a personal choice but I can't see the point of wanting change only to be negative about it without giving it a chance first.




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07 Aug 2018 22:19:18
Why does it have to be downward and not upwards?
Why is it not possible that the Stan and Dick double act to prove to be yet another turning point that sees Arsenal re-emerge as contenders.
You've got two choices boys, spend all next season looking for all possible reasons to support your doom and gloom predictions or be open to the fact that you could possibly be wrong and all might just turn out ok.





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15 Aug 2018 23:48:57
Can't play Xhaka and shouldn't try to make Ozil Miki Laca and Pea all fit in somewhere somehow.
A result would give us all a lift and get out new start off the launch pad.




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15 Aug 2018 19:42:15
Absolutely Epping mate, a full back is a defender in my book and if he can burst down the line and produce fantastic crosses then brilliant but 1st and foremost he 100% needs to be able to defend.




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15 Aug 2018 18:14:24
I'm not a big fan of stats Steve as they usually paint the picture the artist wishes you to see mate.
Mark Hughes said Eric Cantata taught United players the value of a 5 yard pass m, when no one is available on a good position for the player in possession to make a key pass to then 5 yard one two can be a good thing because within that 10 seconds of the one two taking place everyone on the pitch has moved and all of a sudden there are options available that weren't previously there.
But a 5 yard pass just for the sake of it is about as useful and exciting as a dried up cabbage leaf in tin of out of date spam.




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15 Aug 2018 13:04:46
Just my opinion Macko but to me a key pass is one that splits a defence that leads to an attack that leads to clear just goal scoring opportunity.




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15 Aug 2018 11:57:16
I'm totally with that Eden mate, as soon as the season ended Xhaka status seemed to soar amongst loads of Arsenal fans for some bizarre reason and like you say once he returned to the club and started playing all those Xhaka fans have disappeared back to where they were all last season again. Strange to say the least, he has to be the best close season Arsenal player of all time :-)