Arsenal Banter Archive May 20 2013

 

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20 May 2013 23:32:46
70m on transfer fees alone - that's great news as I thought it had to cover wages also

That shows great intent and ambition

Interesting summer

SY4

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Not trying to be overly cynical, but going on recent seasons, I will believe it when it happens. Had my hopes dashed so much, so it won't be before I see it now.

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20 May 2013 23:25:50
I know this is a popular and boring thing to do, but I'd love to see this next season:

GKs: Cesar, Szczesny, Fabianski, Shea
RBs: Piszczek, Jenkinson
CBs: Koscielny, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Williams
LBs: Gibbs, Monreal
CMs: Gonalons, Arteta, Ramsey, Wilshere, Diaby
CAMs: Cazorla, Rosicky, Jovetic
RWs: Walcott, Chamberlain, Eisfeld
STs: Giroud, Higuain, Sanogo
LWs: Podolski, Gnabry, Gervinho

Such a strong squad, all the under-par deadwood gone (I actually think Gervinho would do well having to prove his worth - he came back from the ACN and was fit and firing), plus some signings of real intent there. In addition, a hell of a lot of depth, but more importantly they are players who fit the bill perfectly.

Here's how I'd like to see them line up:

Cesar

Piszczek, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Gibbs

Gonalons, Wilshere

Walcott, Jovetic, Cazorla

Higuain

A really fluid first XI. I'd expect us to play this at home, mainly against the teams outside of the top 2/3 as it is unashamedly attacking. Barring Gonalons, we've got no players who have shown a lot of commitment to tracking back in that midfield and attacking six other than Wilshere (though I have seen Higuain on many an occasion and he does throw himself into tackles).

If we wanted a more conservative option, however, this would not be an issue - we could slot Wilshere into the number 10 role at the expense of Jovetic and fill his place in the midfield with either Arteta or Ramsey, perhaps Diaby when fit.

Not only does the team have interchangeable options from the bench, we've got strength throughout the squad. For example, Wilshere is unlikely to be able to play all games next season. Whether injury or fatigue take their toll, he won't. But we've got a plethora of interchangeable talent to bring in. Not only that, but said talent is versatile, one of the most underrated qualities in a player; Chamberlain is a winger at present, but is gearing his career towards a central midfield role. Vermaelen has played and can play holding midfield if Gonalons has to give way. In attack, major players like Walcott and Podolski can swap between the wings and central strikers and more minor players can drift centrally too - Eisfeld and Gnabry to name two (the former has been played predominantly on the wings this season despite making his name as a central player - midfielders such as Olsson have taken the central attacking berth for the U21s/NextGen games).

If we, at any time, had to play a cup game and had all players available (or even if we didn't) we could still play this side without exhausting any starting XI resources:

Szczesny

Jenkinson, Williams, Vermaelen, Monreal

Arteta, Ramsey

Chamberlain, Rosicky, Podolski

Giroud

That's a team I'd have trusted to win Premier League games, never mind away to Swindon in the FA Cup or at home to Anderlecht in the Champions League.

There are a lot of players out there available. But I think in Ashley Williams, Lukasz Piszczek, Maxime Gonalons, Julio Cesar, Stevan Jovetic, Yaya Sanogo and Gonzalo Higuain, you're getting several things. Firstly, undoubted and proven quality - Premier League quality in the case of Cesar and Williams. Secondly, players such as Gonalons, Cesar, Jovetic and Williams are each arguably their respective clubs' crown jewels, with the others being first-team regulars for Champions League semi-final and finalists. Thirdly, you're getting experience. Barring Sanogo, there's nobody there under 23, there's nobody there without international and only one without Champions League experience. In short, these players are the ones which fans have been pining for for a long time - established and sought-after names. Big money will need to be spent; £10m on Williams, £4m on Cesar, £14m on Piszczek, £12m on Gonalons, £22m on Jovetic and £20m on Higuain. £82m if my late-at-night, top-of-my-head calculations are correct. But is there anyone who really believes we're anything more than £70m worse off than teams like City, United or Chelsea?

I think the depth we'd have with that squad of players would be nigh on unrivalled. The youth and quality on the bench combined with the experience and stature of the starting XI would be a force to be reckoned with, and one I think capable of lifting silverware. Which trophy? I'm not so sure. But what I will say is if we did spend this sort of money on those players, it wouldn't just be the Emirates Cup returning to the red half of North London, that's for sure.

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21 May 2013 09:12:37
After all that effort not sure why you didn't put your name, some might argue over a particular player
here or there but to get that much strength in depth is exactly what we need. Nice post.

Stoner

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It may be 'boring' and 'popular' but this is a pretty sensible wishlist for next season! That would certainly give us a level of depth and quality to compete for the title.

Honestly though I don't see us signing more than 2 forwards including Sanogo. Podolski has been on and off with fatigue this season but was signed as a 1st team starter - I don't think Wenger will jeopardise that. The Jovetic rumours are interesting as I am not sure where he'd play. Perhaps:

Walcott Jovetic Cazorla
Podolski

But that is very attacking. In any case, I really don't see us signing Jovetic AND Higuain. Would love to be wrong though!

Oleg Maputo

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This guy knows what he's talking about.

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I think there is too much depth in some sense (there are 25 first teamers there plus youth). You won't keep that many players happy. I think we only sign another CB if TV leaves and our 4th CB will either be Miquel or covered by whoever we sign as a RB or CDM. I think Gervinho would go too. That would be 23 class players which is still a lot to keep happy but a good problem I suppose.

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Getting Piszczek would mean selling Sagna, which will bring that 82mil down, closer to the 70mil reported. Good post!

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20 May 2013 23:13:55
According to tv, Liverpool are making a move for Toure. It could mean they aren't sure of getting Ashley Williams? Could be that he is staying with Swansea or Arsenal have moved into pole position for him?

Knigthmoves

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20 May 2013 23:11:32
Let's say if Bayern came in with an offer for Koscielny.

And you had to accept a bid,

What would you sell him for?

Personally, I'd take no less than 30-40 mil.

Some might think that's overpriced but he's a great player and it's about time we started overpricing our great players.

Nick.

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I just voted Kos as our player of the year. He's been the heart of our team whilst Wilshire has had to warm the bench. There's no money we should accept and I resent the suggestion. If he forces a move somehow, then I'd think again, but as it is, a happy Koscielny is a mighty beast. Pay him his worth, build the defence around him, sit back and enjoy.

Ned.

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I wouldn't even look at anything under £50m. Genuinely believe he is in the top 3 (if not 1) center backs in the world.

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It is not overpriced in the current market, he is a top defender hitting his peak. Absolute joke he wasn't considered for any of the pundits' 'teams of the year' - put behind Ferdinand and Vertonghen whose defences conceded almost 10 goals more than ours. The main thing is that he has forged a great partnership with Mertesacker, so probably wouldn't have the same immediate effect elsewhere. Still, easily worth 30m at least.

Oleg Maputo

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The reason koscielny is not in the team of the year is that he hardly played a game at the start of the season

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20 May 2013 22:50:41
I'm sure a lot of you have seen this but it cracks me up! SM1996

Alan Davies is Olivier Giroud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRr1dq2b-B0

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20 May 2013 22:40:50
The next season could be the one that defines us as a Club for the next 5-10 years. All the teams above us have new managers, we won't lose any STAR players this summer, we have got CL football and we have reached a point where we can start spending. What we need is a serious title challenge and some silverware. Fabianski did well to push Wojiech in the last few months but we still need another keeper. Cesar, Mignolet, or Begovic would all be good in my opinion.
Koscielny, Mertesacker, Vermaelen (when on form) and both left backs are all solid. Jenkinson is coming on well but not ready to start 30+ games a year, while sagna is surely off. We need another CB, Rami is a possibility, but our defence is relatively strong so a good young CB who could be used for cover would suffice. We need a new RB, I wouldn't mind someone like Piszcek. We need another CDM to take the pressure of Arteta, someone like Wanyama would be ideal. Then I believe we need two attacking players. Would love any two from Cesc, Draxler, Jovetic, Higuain, Lewandowski, preferrably one creative player and one lethal striker. then add 2-3 young players like Sanogo etc. and we will be right as rain.
Best possible scenario:
Wojiech/Mignolet
Piszcek, Jenkinson
Kos, Per, TV5, Rami
Monreal, Gibbs
Wanyama, Arteta, Coquelin
Wilshere, Rosicky, Ramsey, Diaby
Cazorla
Walcott, The Ox, Podolski, Draxler
Giroud, Higuian, Sanogo

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20 May 2013 22:05:40
Relief - Now Spend, Spend, Spend!

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20 May 2013 21:41:21
Hi eds, was wondering if could get an honet opinion on the heavily linked jovetic? If honest I've not seen much ov him, but his goals record in italy is hardly anything exciting? I personally struggle to think ov many italian strikers who make the move to england with success apart from the obvious few in the past like zola, ravenelli but recently not many. the only quotes from wenger is he likens jovetic to a young van persie which again doesn't excite me as although we as bitter gooners admit he is world class now he hardly set the world on fire for his first 5-6years! Wud the mooted £23 million be better invested in the vast array ov strikers rumoured available like benzema, higuain etc who are proven at world level not jovetic who is a big gamble? Would appreciate honest opinion on the guy. Thanks alot! Kobe11 {Ed027's Note - Not a gamble, top draw player, with the service at Arsenal, we will just see the best of him, like I said before he has the ability to be our Suarez, I mean Gervinho and Bendthner scored goals for us, Jovetic will find the net with ease and then some

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He's not italian

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20 May 2013 20:31:17
Just thought about what could happen for us in the window; watch carefully:

Out:

Chamakh = £8 million
Bendtner = £13 million
Arshavin = £7 million
Djourou = £8 million
Squillaci = £3 million
Santos = £7 million
Sagna = £15 million
Fabianski = £6 million
Gervinho = £13 million
Mannone = £3 million
Park = £3 million

All of that money comes to £83 million. Add that to the £70 million and we have a whopping £153 million to spend. Now you may not agree with what I'm about to say but I would buy these players:

Ashley Williams/Swansea = £12 million
Rui Patricio/Sporting Lisbon = £12 million
Maxime Gonalons/Lyon = £20 million
Stevan Jovetic/Fiorentina = £24 million
Gonazalo Higuain/Real Madrid = £22 million
Wayne Rooney/Manchester United = £25 million
Julio Cesar/QPR = £3 million
Shaun Maloney/Wigan = £6 million
Christian Benteke/Aston Villa = £20 million

All of that comes to £144 million. Williams is a top quality defender to replace Sagna who I do not rate. Patricio wants Champions League and has been in impressive form and could end our search for a goalkeeper. Gonalons is like Diaby and that means we would have 2 top quality defensive midfielders. Jovetic is also in impressive form and with the goals scored by Giroud and Podolski, he can push us that extra mile. Higuain is top class and not wanted at Real. Rooney is debatable and I certainly didn't think that RVP would play in a United shirt so Rooney in an Arsenal shirt? Plus, I know he has played for United and scored goals but he hasn't really done anything wrong towards us. Cesar would be a great second choice goalkeeper for us in case of a suspension or injury for Patricio. Maloney adds an extra attacking option and he played exceptionally well against City in the FA Cup. Plus he is great at free kicks - something we don't really have. Benteke is top class and has plenty of years left in him. Only problem is his temper but if anyone can get someone on track it is Wenger - look at RVP.

With all that said and done, we still have £9 million to spend which I would use for wages and a possible signing in January if needed.

This squad could have so much potential:

1. Szczesny
2. Diaby
3. Williams
4. Mertesacker
5. Vermaelen
6. Koscielny (C)
7. Rosicky
8. Arteta
9. Podolski
10. Wilshere
11. Higuain
12. Giroud
13. Rui Patricio
14. Walcott
15. Chamberlain (Loan for season)
16. Ramsey (Loan for season)
17. Monreal
18. Rooney
19. Cazorla
21. Cesar
22. Coquuelin (Loan for season)
23. Jovetic
24. Maloney
25. Jenkinson
26. Frimpong (Loan for season)
27. Gonalons
28. Gibbs
29. Benteke

Please eds. I would be grateful for any feedback. Not too much criticism! {Ed027's Note - You need to realise those players are leaving for a reason, they will not recoup half of what you have said as some are on free transfers and some are worth peanuts, Gonalos 20m? c'mon now

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Half of the players that you have down for leaving are walking away on free contracts

the strategy is flawed because you did not do any proper research on your post

sorry disagree.

malaga gooner

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Theres about half an hours worth of wasted typing time.

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If we well sagna and vermaelen we can hope to recieve in the region of about 15mil. Gerv another 10m if were lucky. The rest is worth peanuts.
AG

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20 May 2013 21:38:19
Your on a different planet if you think we will sign Jovetic, Rooney and Higuain? We will sign 1 max and it won't be Rooney. Sagna £15m Bendtner £13m? way off there mate

Detroit Gooner

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Unless we are using Theos agent your not getting half that amount for those players. as half are out of contract lol

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NO, NO, Are you 5 years old!
Chamakh-2.5m
Bendner-3m
Arshavin-2m
Djourou-3m
Squilaci-1m
Santos-2m
Sagna-6m
Fabianski-2.5m
Mannone-2m

Actually there is 24.5m
The owners will keep more than half
S

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Have to agree with Malaga. Many are frees, and several others are over-valued.

One thing that is almost as important as transfer fees is freeing up space on the wage bill.

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FIFA FIGURES!

Churchill Gooner

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10 out of 10 for effort mate
. 0 out of 10 for accuracy tho!
K cider

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Can't believe you think we would make a profit on santos. We are more likely going to have to pay someone to take him!

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Can't believe you think we would make a profit on santos. We are more likely going to have to pay someone to take him!

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LOL - most unrealistic mis-guided post ever!

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20 May 2013 20:10:18
I was browsing the spurs rumour page to see their reactions from yesterdays events (haha) and saw one of them posted the following

"Bale isn't going anywhere, he's in ADVANCED talks with Spurs over a 180k plus a 3 million pound bonus for each cup he will win under us in this contract. However if we don't get Champions league next year he will go.

This comes from a Strong source. Count on it. "

Notice the fact he says 'WILL' instead of 'IF' they really are a bunch of over confident *******s!

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Good point but remind me, when did Arsenal last win a trophy?

AJH

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Is that genuinely your response to that? Really? 'When did Arsenal last win a trophy?' It's so revolutionary, we've never heard anything like it!

So I applaud you, and ask you kindly to leave this page now, as us humble Gooners cannot begin to compete with your unparalleled wit.

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20 May 2013 19:31:06
Great to beat the spurs again. I fell about laughing when they thought geordies had equalised and were jumping about. When are they going to learn. All year they slagged us off about apower shift in north london. when we sign some top players we will move even further away from them. You never know we might take bale off them HAHA.

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20 May 2013 18:51:45
I gave a lot of stick to ramsey this season. I didn't think he was good enough. Even though he still has has a lot to improve on he's performance againts Newcastle was incredible. With arteta going off he stepped
up and put in a magnificent performance and it was exactly what arsenal needed. So here my apology to Ramsey, well done for sticking at it when some people lost faith. Apologies mr ramsey, your just what arsenal need

Noodles

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20 May 2013 18:21:20
Is the Jovetic deal nearly done now we have finished fourth?

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20 May 2013 18:19:47
Personally I don't think we are a drastic distance away from challenging at the top, some people are claiming we need 5 or 6 new first team players and a new formation but really it's more like 3 or 4 players and same formation


Personally think we could do with a left winger as dangerous as Walcott, too often this season we have had a dangerous right side but not so much on the left, I believe podolski never really seemed to get in the right positions and never really looked a threat by running at players. Therefore I'd suggest signing Pierre-emerick Aubameyang, quick and could be exceptional on arsenals left, he can cross as well as score and dribble, exceptional talent.

Then a centre back, someone to partner koscielny, who has been amazing yet again this year, really hope we keep hold of him as he is one of the best in the prem. but the cb we purchase should be a power player, subotic would be my ideal choice here as I can't see hummels leaving for arsenal, maybe barca or real. But subotic would probably fit our team more as well as he is the more ball playing defender of the two Dortmund cb's.

Thirdly a central mid, Ramsey has been awesome lately but is that consultancy really there? I'd say i'd buy a cm anyway as if Ramsey is consistent next season then the new midfielder would have a settling season as arteta will need replacing in a couple seasons or so and it's better to have replacements ready and although I'd like to see wanyama come in I believe he is united bound, therefore I am suggesting if united were to opt for him then we snip in for Fellaini however united may also be in for him (based on tabloid talk) so if united were to sign both I'd say third choice potentially could be Ilkay Gundogan if Dortmund were to let him go. All 3 are great multiskilled hard working midfielders who all possess the ability to win a ball back.

Fourthly, the striker. Everyone is calling out for a striker namely jovetic, but do we really need one? Constantly from the Sunderland game I said giroud looks like a very good striker, and I still believe it, his physicality is something arsenal have been missing and his movement is somewhat exceptional, he just needs the good run of games and confidence, we'd also have podolski as cover however I do believe we will sign a striker, but only one (so many people claiming were signing jovetic and higuain, which will not happen as this summer we get Chamakh, park chu young, and bendtner back from loans so we need to sell first, so if we were to sign a striker namely jovetic, I pose 1 question why? Why him? He'll cost £25mil, why not Rooney for £30mil? It will be a kick at utd for taking van Persie and I'm sure Rooney has something to prove if he leaves.

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20 May 2013 18:07:29
GK: Fabianksi and Mannone out, Cesar in, Martinez promoted to 3rd choice
RB: Sagna out (regrettable), Piszczek/Richards in, Bellerin out on loan
LB: No change
CB: Djourou, Squillaci out, Miquel out on loan, Ogbonna/N'Koulou/Rami in
DCM: Coquelin, Frimpong (both regrettable) out, Denilson out, Capoue/Wanyama in
AM: Eisfeld out on loan, Jovetic in
RW: no change
LW: Gervinho, Arshavin out, Gnabry promoted
CF: Chamakh, Park, Bendtner out, Sanogo and Higuain/Bony/Chicharito in
Squad:
Szczesny CESAR Martinez
Jenkinson PISZCZEK
Gibbs Monreal
Koscielny Mertesacker Vermaelen OGBONNA
WANYAMA Arteta Diaby
Wilshere Cazorla Rosicky JOVETIC (false9 role) Ramsey
Podolski Gnabry
Walcott Oxlade-Chamberlain
Giroud HIGUAIN SANOGO

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20 May 2013 17:21:44
Sunderland fan here
Well done on champions league qualification.
Credit where credits due, arsenal have spent 9million net over the period of 10years! and maintained a level of consistency of getting into the champions league every year!
There has been a lot of stick off arsenal fans the past few years that the club isn't doing enough, and should be doing better, but if you think about it, if they continue the way you are going, it will be one of the most impressive and amazing managerial performances by a manager ever, especially with all the economy troubles with football clubs now, Leeds, Portsmouth, wolves, QPR, Arsenal have done the smartest thing possible, because now they are almost finished paying off all the debt off the stadium and other things, you can now progress, you may have lost world class players, cesc, nasri, RVP, etc and with the tiny 9m net spent in 10 years, you can rapidly lift off and buy great players and become the invincibles once again
Sorry for the long post
Good luck next season

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Why you recycling Gary Neville's post match comments word for word and passing them off as your own? Very weird indeed

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I didn't know Gary Neville was a Sunderland fan

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Mate, apart from "Sunderland fan here, well done on champions league qualification" it is word for word exactly what Gary Neville said.

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So what if he quoting neville.

is not everything the geordie:) said true.

thanks for coming on here with your kind words.

if your going to come on here and slagg some 1 off atleast put a name to your posts lads

malaga gooner

malaga gooner

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Calling a 'Mackem' a 'Geordie' is just about the most hurtful thing you could have done.

CECEGUaW

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20 May 2013 17:12:34
let the spurs fans slate us for celebrating finishing 4th who cares what they think. they can't handle the fact that they had a lead over us and ballsed it up. they will forever be in our shadow. now bring on the summer, bring in 3 quality signings and with the team we have now I am sure we will make more of a challenge for silverware

gooner mark

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Who cares what they think, we are going to be in the champions league while they will be in the europa league. Just bitter.

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20 May 2013 16:59:17
There is more to this fellow gunners, yes we celebrated a bit much yesterday but yesssss. well deserved. I believe the team knows that this time around, things will be different, we will strengthen and not sell. wait and see, something at arsenal is going to happen, something big lads. maybe the team knows already. I can feel it in the London air. Mark my words.

Noely

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20 May 2013 16:25:03
First time poster long time reader and Gooner. And the ramble starts.

First I think the loss of the Skunk can't be overstated. Our leader and a close friend of many of our players leaves after proclaiming his love for the club and carrying it for 18 months really shell shocked the team. Cesc was going to leave and the team knew that, Nasri I don't think they really gave a s&6t about, but the Skunk, especially to United stunned everyone. Its like in elementary school (here in the States) and some kid everyone admires rocks Umbros for two years, talks s&*t about Nikes, and suddenly everyone starts buying Umbros. Then the kid comes back from the summer in Nikes and talks s&*t about Umbros. Everyone knows he's being hypocritical, but they still feel silly and go out and buy Nikes. Silly example but that's what I think.

About our team now though and that's what's important. I think Wenger, unless Bac asks to leave may keep him around and take the lost $'s after next season. We don't need the money and he can continue to help bed Jenks in and maybe some time for Bellerin, who should go to Betis on loan if the rumours about the partnership are true.

Here in the States they talk about our "football" as being built from the lines out. That is the offensive and defensive lines by the way (the huge dudes that crouch over and then run into each other). Successful teams build from the lines out because it allows their flair players (receivers and running backs and quarterbacks) to do their jobs and put points on the board on offensive, or conversely disrupt the flair players on when you are on defense. The development of the BFG and Kos pairing and Gibbsy's development and Nacho's presence, combined with Ramsey and Rosicky's work ethic has given us solid "lines" if you will. Add a new DM in and we do need one, Arteta can't play 40-50 games again, and our flair players will feel secure enough to go out and put the ball in the f"ing net.

DM a really physical presence, scare some people in the tunnel, a Jovetic type striker, and someone who can cross the ball and we should be fine. Keep Bac, he doesn't have to play all the time but for years we would have taken the cash and lived with the consequences of losing a dressing room presence and mentor and we have scraped by. I feel like if we had kept Viera or Pires for another couple of years we probably would have picked up a cup or two.

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I agree with 99 percent of your post, but I don't think arsenal will ever use the term 'we don't need the money' - they will take money for sagna if the offer is decent, and will replace him with someone cheaper. that's the arsenal way.

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20 May 2013 16:02:28
Not strictly Arsenal but i'm looking forward to what's going to be a crazy transfer window. Chelsea, Real Madrid, Citu, Bayern, United and PSG all new managers. We actually look like we are going to spend aswell. Moneybags Monacco and Anzhi will probably be at it also.

This makes it even more critical that Wenger goes out and gets his targets early like he did with Giroud and Podolski last year. If he waits till mid August all the big spenders will have driven prices right up. PSG paying ridiculous sums for Lavezzi, Thiago Silva, Ibra, Lucas. Zenit buying Hulk and Witsel £80m! The transfer windows are just getting more and more insane. £24m for Jovetic seems like a bargain when put in context.

Interestingly where do you guys see the really big names ending up. Such as Rooney, Cavani, Falcao, Isco etc. I personally see most of them on the move once finally. Maybe Neymar will finally leave Brazil. On another note it would be sad to see Bale leave the PL for La Liga. He is a great British talent.

Exciting few months ahead.

Detroit Gooner

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20 May 2013 15:39:28
Newcastle inquire about Arsenal target Griezmann.

Would be a shame if we miss out.

Billybob

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20 May 2013 14:55:03
Bale is set to sign a new contract at Spurs earning him upwards of £130,000 a week. Now that he's still going to be there to carry them through the season this should really motivate Wenger to strengthen the squad over summer. We always seem to lose out on our targets to clubs like Chelsea and Man City when we do actually have the money to spend. This can't happen again!

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Bale will move:
1) He can demand a salary of £200,000+ per week
2) He can obtain a signing on fee of £5m+
3) He needs a new challenge, at a top European Club.
I cannot see him staying another season at a mediocre club, outside the top four & without Champions League football. Chelsea would be my guess for £60m.

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20 May 2013 11:25:38
It times like these we should spare a thought for the information ed002 could be filling us in on if it wasn't for a few persons ruining it for everyone.

Can we still expect a massive change and lots of activity in the summer eds?

1404

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Hey 1404 how u doing buddy.

i think we will spend close to 100 mill in the summer.

happy days

malaga gooner

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When are people going to realise that Ed002 never gave any amazing information?

Now, I am not suggesting for one moment that people should be rude to the Eds, ever. But, this ide that ED02 knew everything is completely untrue. He/she might have a grasp of finances and a sulky vibe but don't confuse that with having any idea about anything behind closed doors at the club. In two years I've not read one thing that he/she forecast and got right.

And yes, I include 'between now and May 2014 I predict big changes at Arsenal'.

It's just that due to him answering some questions about finances, everyone randomly started asking him about everything, getting virtually nothing in response, and then this 'Ed002 knows so much, grr we really miss all that amazing information' - WHAT INFORMATION?!

I didn't learn a single thing from ed002 in 2 and a half years.

You can go find out all they know just by making the effort and using google and a few well-placed buzz words.

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Not bad Malaga, best Monday I've had in a while tbh. although some of my Spud mates have been remarkably quiet today haha

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Quiet is the word mate.

its as if every spud I know has emigrated and forgot to take their phones with them.

not surprised they do it every season.

beep-beep

malaga gooner

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20 May 2013 14:03:08
People keep talking about the celebrations after yesterdays game.

Now I personally feel that they were justified. alright granted we should not accept 4th spot as a success I agree, however after losing our talisman in RVP in the summer and the start to the season that we had we really dug something special out of the bag to overhaul that other North London side and get 4th spot when you consider they tabled their record points and had their best ever season (makes it even sweeter).
People seem to forget how that team, and their fans celebrated when they beat us 2-1 back in March to go 7 points clear, they celebrated like they had won the league as well and right infront of our faces. so for me the celebrations were justified and mainly aimed towards to "that team" basically rubbing salt into their wounds.

MIND THE GAP. UP THE GOONERS!

Project Arsenel

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20 May 2013 12:41:25
moutinhio any interest classy player him and wilshere would be awesome

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Spuds will sign him

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20 May 2013 11:44:15
Champions league football is what we needed and what we got. Hopefully we can now push on next season with a few new very good signings and challenge for the league, jovetic should be completed near the start of the window so wenger isn't rushing about for a last minute bargain, so good news.
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20 May 2013 11:28:50
Now that top 4 has been achieved, expect some decent spending from Arsenal, with records being broken.

Obviously they won't spend as much as the likes of Chelsea or City. But they will definatly spend.

I can see Jovetic and a Striker coming from Spain (benzema or higuain). Potentially another midfielder (likely from france, maybe gourcuff finally), a young winger (muniain, jese rodriguez or deulofeu) and a centre half (sakho or N'koulou).

Should be an exciting summer for the gunners. for once!

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Dont want gourcuff near our club, its been put off over and over again because he ain't got the quality

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Jese Rodriguez is quality. Not sure about Gourcuff but Sakho is good. Also don't think Benzema will join

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20 May 2013 11:07:16
I think galatasary want gervinho manager says he's on the radar

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20 May 2013 10:46:46
dragan stojkovic to arsenal this summer. Pretty sure his contract runs out this year in Japan. A year with Wenger before he moves into the boardroom and Dragan takes the reigns.

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20 May 2013 08:54:14
a list of players Arsenal will NOT sign:
Rene Adler - there are better options, maybe we need someone older to mentor Wojciech
Mats Hummels - will go to Barca
Amorebieta - rumour has it he has signed on a free with Fulham
Wayne Rooney - absolutely no chance, and not wanted
David Villa - quality, but too old.
Christian Benteke - I think Villa will hold on to him for another season
Victor Wanyama - will end up at United, is a fan
Ben Arfa - quality, but injury record is akin to Diaby's
Isco - when Pellegrini becomes City manager, he will accompany him
Rui Patricio - I can see Julio Cesar - older, more experience, cheaper, already in London
Gonzalo Higuain - Will go to Juve unfortunately

My predicted signings: Julio Cesar, Lukasz Piszczek, Nicholas N'Koulou, Ettiene Capoue, Stevan Jovetic. (maybe an unlikely chance for a loan move for Cesc, but the operative word is unlikely).

What do you think Ed?
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Adler - fair enough
Hummels - never will we fork out for him
Amor - Fulham yes
Rooney - if he took a wage cut I'd have him.
Villa - I'd have him too. Move Pod to the middle. Can we rely on him though? Probably not
Benteke - think you might be right.
Wanyama - disagree now. Carrick is the league's statistical def mid hero. They also have Jones and Fellaini might well move there.
Isco - agreed. Why he's going on about stealing Santi from us though. psssht. If you can't challenge for the league with David Silva, Nasri, Milner and Yaya then you don't deserve Santi you Holywood-wannabee.
Patricio - literally don't know who this guy even is
Higuain - think you might be right.

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20 May 2013 11:08:53
An ok end to our season, and plan B is almost put into effect. So many options with our Champions League plan are now dalive. Love me or hate me here are the updates from the very top!

Koscielny will be joining PSG in the summer with rumours that santi will join him.

Gervinho is set to stay along with Rosicky who were both planning summer moves.

There is also speculation that Giroud is off to newly rich monaco!

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Santi and Kos aren't going anywhere.

I expect Gerv to stay although a move away isn't unlikely.

Rosicky will probably leave but I would like to see him given a 1 year extension as a squad player.

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20 May 2013 13:03:13
You on LSD? Is there also a purple dragon in your bathroom? Why would Cazorla or Giroud leave after having successful debut seasons and we qualified for CL. Koscielny signed new deal last summer so that's not happening either.

Detroit Gooner

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If its straight from the top why is it speculation that Giroud maybe off. Utter nonsense overall. If you are going to post a rumour at least make it a sensible one.

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Nice one spud, is a coincident that your post is alomost the same as the oracles on the spurs page.

the whole first sentence is a word for word copy

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I have never heard so much rubbish in my life. Rosicky is staying, Yes. Koscielny will not be leaving. Gervinho will leave if an offer above 10m comes in. Santa will not be leaving, he has just joined.

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You honestly could not be more wrong.

This is laughable.

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In the words of Carl Pilkington - "rubbish!"

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20 May 2013 10:49:44
Why are all these s**t pundits saying we shouldn't be celebrating that's a load of b*******. The situation we were in with 10 games to go was terrible and we've fought back to get 4th spot so that's why we celebrated you p***ks. Walcott came out in an interview straight after and said we want to be challenging for the title and wenger said that's we should be going for the title a few weeks ago so they can all SMD!



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Dancing around like you won a cup shows how high your standards are these days

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What about your lot going mad on sky when you thought that Newcastle had equalised.

Go back to your own forum spud!

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No spud mate. They can't say anything, let's just say the blue of London are having a right giggle

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To the spuds, I thought you culdnt get more embarrassment when Adebayor did that pathetic horse gallop to take a penalty, but then I saw the most embarrassing moment for you when you all celebrated like the 4th spot was yours when you thought that Newcastle had scored to make it 1-1. You looked absolutely pathetic, wth egg plastered all over your faces. The best part of it was, you were 0-0 at the time which meant Arsenal would have still got 4th spot. Dumb a$$e$

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The blue of london can giggle all they want if my great club did business like you I would be embarrassed your club are a laughing stock. I would take ten years without a trophy than do what you do. The fact that one of your greatest players ever hadn't been offered a contract till last week shows how much respect for loyalty and tradition your club has!


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20 May 2013 10:45:59
So delighted with the number four finish. Haters will say fourth is not good enough, but as a Gunners man to the core I will gladly take it. We have CL qualification now, so this should not be a stumbling block in our negotiations for to bring in some class acts. will not suggest names but the positions I would like to see filled are:

Left wing: Podolski should play in the middle
Right back who can play centre back
DMF
Right wing: Theo should also play in the middle. Our 3 strikers should be Poldi, Giroud and Theo used in a 4-4-2 formation
Goalkeeper

Come On You Gunners!

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Your 'suggestions' are terrible.

You say move Walcott and podolski central which is fair if you believe that will be a better position for them and even if you believe that 4-4-2 is the right formation.

But then why would we buy a defensive midfielder? A 4-4-2 formation would mean we would lose a midfielder or are the wilshere cazorla arteta Ramsey rosicky and diaby not enough for you? Another midfeilder would be just pointless if we also changed the formation. Also if we did then a right winger wouldn't be necessary as we'd have a more suitable option as to play oxlade-chamberlain available to play there, I do apologise but to post something basically saying we need to change soooo much and then undoing your own statement by suggesting purchasing players surplus to requirements.

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20 May 2013 10:29:51
Here are my thoughts on this summer: Unlike the past two seasons this summer will be one of speculation as to whom we may buy, as opposed to who will leave us. This season, in the last 10 games we have got such momentum that, I believe, will be taken into next season. If we play like we did in the last games of the season from start to finish we would be right up there at the end of the season.
So, this year the players that will be leaving the club are often referred to as 'deadwood' by us lot. This means that AW will spend to bring in players. And let's not forget Caz, Pod, and Giroud have all been great signings, so AW has still got it.
I'm absolutely buzzing for next year and hope that we can strengthen in a few key areas and bulk up our bench. What we need to start doing is rotating our players. It seems like this season we were afraid to mix our team up as we didn't have the quality to bring in. I think with a few departures and 5 players coming in we would be contenders next year.
Absolutely buzzing!

Anyway, here are my predictions - I'll eat a hat if they turn out to be true! We will sign Jovetic, Gonalons, and then some youngsters. Then if Verm and Gervi leave we will sign two more experienced internationals.

Looking forward to an exciting summer!

Sally

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20 May 2013 10:22:39
Oven-fresh this morning: Arsenal line up a replacement for Arsene Wenger. Guess who? Piers Morgan!


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20 May 2013 09:55:42
morning all gooners.
1) my heart rate will go back to normal atleast for the next 90 days lol
2) enjoyed ST TOTTERINGHAM DAY last night in nairobi though there are no known tottenham fans around.
3) now let's get high quality players as early as possible and have a team that will be worthy of winning the league next year. UP GOONERS
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20 May 2013 09:49:00
I have just seen the latest AW press conference and I have to say I am slightly surprised by his comments. I genuinely believed this summer Arsenal would spend well. This season has proved that Arsenal need to spend this summer as you are slowly falling behind. If it wasn't for a determined finale under a determined manager and a few key Spurs injuries, you would be playing Europa next season. I think it's time Kroenke and AW made a statement to the fans questioning Kroeke's ownership and AW's leadership that Arsenal are willing to spend big when they need to. This summer is that time IMO. However AW's latest comments are questionable to say the least and I was wondering what Arsenal fans thought about them?

Sydney!

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20 May 2013 12:46:30
Question Syd,

Put SAF in Wengers shoes over the last 8 years what do you imagine he would of achieved. I see you said further down about the fourth place comment.

Also as much as Fergie can't be faulted for his own field achievements I think IMO his retirement is a breath of fresh air for Utd and the premier league in general.

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Stoner, AW has had cash to spend, but has spent it poorly IMO. AW spent the £71m and more that was generated by the sales of Cesc, Nasri & Clichy. That money could have been spent more wisely I'm sure you would agree. I think SAF would have spent the money better.

Sydney!

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20 May 2013 09:35:45
Would love to get your opinions.

I live in Abu Dhabi and get to watch Premier league world and fanzine and one thing from yesterday has really p***** me off.

Don Hutchinson and lemony lita slated Arsenal for celebrating after the final whistle, "like they had won the league" and also slated Arsene for saying this was the best group of players he's ever had.

Now my opinion is these persons clearly have no idea!

Due to a poor first half of the season we were always fighting for champions league football, it was a quick realignment of targets as 1st was clearly beyond our reach. This said the boys celebrating, (just like I was at home), for me is great I love that it means that much to them, I love that finishing above the spurs means that much to them. All year round and its been the same for a while now, we get battered by the media and all we do is run our club perfectly from a financial point and are very consistent year after year.

I have to be honest I do want us to now maybe splash out and buy the few years that we need and we could close the gap. It has to be said we were well off u to but so were everyone else. It annoys me when you here, "Chelsea are close" they were 2 points ahead of us. WTF!

Sorry to get on my soap box but I love Arsenal and its one of those things that really bugs me. We have had great results in the second half of the season and form puts us top so there is no reason for these guys negativity. Even against Bayurn hese clowns couldn't give us credit and look at their results this year, we are the only ones to beat them!

I believe that it was the Bayern result that made the team treatise how good they can be and it showed

Great finish boys, bugger the media you continue to make us proud to be Gooners, now it's time for he board to back the boss and the team and let's push for a trophy next year

COYG!

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The celebrations were a little OTT. But AW did say it's like winning a cup ;)

Sydney!

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Adam

I see your point but to an extent I have to agree with the pundits. The celebrations were a bit OTT. It's a bit like we are celebrating mediocrity. 4th place isn't good enough. Yes champions league is a target and its by no means a given but the club as a whole should be disappointed due to once again not even coming close to competing. The league table doesn't lie. We're 16 points behind the champions for a reason.

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20 May 2013 12:03:34
I know, they are completely ignoring the fact we made a fantastic turn around taking 26/30 points, unbeaten in 10 and defended superbly. I think that was an acheivement that deserved celebration. I bet had Spurs got 4th they would have been celebrating as if they won the world cup, and no one would have said a thing. It's just the media are very anti-arsenal and love to slate Wenger.

This may not be the best team we've had under Wenger, but it's the best team defending since the invincibles. If you watch how organised our back four is now, strength in depth and determination. Koscielny proved he's our best CB by a country mile. I bet all his haters from his first season are praising him now. If our CMs show that much energy and commitment every game then we don't need a CDM. Just a top striker, keeper and versatile defender.

Adler/Cesar/Begovic + Richards/Nkoluou + Jovetic/Higuan my perfect (yet semi realistic) summer.

Detroit Gooner

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All I agree that celebrating 4th is not the best but let's put some perspective on it. We were 7 points outside these places, (this automatically a goal as it is the minimum we should be expecting), without this there would be less investment and less interest.

All season some have mocked their own team and doubted their ability and the back end of the season we were the best team, (for years we played beautiful football and got nowhere, now we tough it out its still not enough). The world of football is fickle we will slate in one respect and sing praises in the next but I thought that for once this season we would actually stand side by side and applaud our boys instead of complaining that their celebrations were OTT.

I agree that 4th should not be our target but it should be our minimum!

And I would rather be over celebrating 4th, than sulking over 5th

Adam P

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I think that being happy to finish fourth, and celebrating playing CL football next year, is perfectly reasonable, when you consider that the team was criticised for being OUT of the top 4. Credit where its due.

Also, man utd, man city, and chelsea, all have better teams than arsenal, so 4th spot is about right isn't it.

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20 May 2013 08:44:45
It's disgraceful for a 'big' club that u lot think u are to be celebrating finishing 4th every season like actually winning a trophy. I understand it is your standard though, but it is really too mean. Come to think of it, u're not even in the group stages yet; I think that will be another trophy. Two trophies in a season ain't bad, isn't it? I foresee a banana skin in the play-offs. The Europa cup will be a huge trophy for u lot anyway.
4thNotEnuf.

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I seriously don't get how arsenal are getting criticized for celebrating. What did you expect the players to do? walk off with no emotion.

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Mind the gap spud

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So what I understand from this is that we are not a big club LOL, celebrating 4th spot the reason why we celabrated was because 10 games ago we were 7 points behind and down and out and after getting it after the summer next season we will be back where where we belong challenging for trophies

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Considering what the teams around are spending to not even get a look in and the 3 teams above us have vastly superior wealth or are prepared to get in huge debt I think we have every right to celebrate it as it is an achievement wether you like it or not.
4 th is enough when spurs are 5th.

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Is your life really that bitter that you get your kicks by trying to make people sad and miserable? It comes off as unbelievably pathetic. Keep your negativity to yourself next time. On a better note can't wait for next season!

GTID

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20 May 2013 08:07:42
Eds, I know it's a really silly question, but would arsenal really try and sign bale!
Spartakusmark

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We are never, ever getting Bale

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Would never happen

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20 May 2013 07:59:33
Unh!, What to expect next session?

MAN U to drop form and try to find their usual winning rhythm throughout the first half as a result of changes in coaching style and no influencing figure of SIR ALEX FERGUSON on the field of play

CHELSEA to have difficulties btw players and coach on first team selection and their team is to play without Team Spirit and that should account for inconsistency on the field of play.

MAN CITY to get tired of spending unwisely and try to emulate the buying culture of other team and as well recruit young player but expect them to be one of the major force to face on the field of play.

TOTTEN - RAM to try and retain the services of Bale and recruit some wonderful class of footballer. Expect them to be a team to be reckoned with through out next session.

Arsenal to surprise the fans with two to three world class signings and sell off some of the junks we called players. The "Fear of Alisher Usmanuv should be the beginning of wisdom for Kronke". Expect Arsenal to become the most Fears and Envied Team in EPL through next session.

This is only a prediction from the trend of things, Imo expect the EPL table be like this in the END:

1- ARSENAL
2- MAN CITY
3- MAN UNITED
4- TOTTEN-RAM
5- Don't have idea

Naija GUNNER

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Or

1- United
2- Chelsea
3- City
4- Arsenal/Spurs

Sydney!

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In the current top 4, Arsenal are the only team without an imminent change in mangers.

Pretty incredible, and definitely an advantage.

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20 May 2013 06:37:27
I am going to confess that I had posted a while back that we won't finish in the top 4 and a couple of people had agreed with that opinion. I also remember one of the eds commenting that Wenger would mange top 4 and that I would be proved wrong.

Here is to me being proved wrong and hoping that Wenger finally spends this summer and assembles a squad that challenges for top honours!

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20 May 2013 03:24:03
Higuain to arsenal for 30, Real should sign suarez and Higuain would be available

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20 May 2013 02:58:27
Greetings and Salutations my fellow Gooners!

What a beautiful day it was to be a Gooner. Its been a long time since I posted, truth be told I visit the site everyday but wanted to wait till the season was over to add my two pence.

1. Arsene Wenger is an absolute genius! I will always support a person who shields the club from criticism, the players from public outcry and puts his own reputation at stake as a lighting rod to protect the reputation of the club. 26 of 30 points in a season where we once again lost our best player he made the difficult choice to bench our captain for the task at hand. He brought in 3 important pieces last summer in Carzola, Podolski and Giroud, signed his entire english core, bought a left back at a most critical juncture in the season, played his second choice keeper when most required and let him have a run of matches and brought us back from 7 points behind our hated Northern rival to win CL qualification for our 16th straight campaign.

The detractors will claim this is not enough and that we deserve better but I ask those "how many of you know what is going on behind the scenes at the club?". and yet you still blame Arsene without any actual knowledge.

Its absolutely fascinating to me that the level of expectation this man has created has also been his own undoing. We live in a very quick gratification society and 8 years without a trophy during a global recession in which we rebuilt our club, our infrastructure, built a new stadium, and brought in more commercial revenue than at any time in the club and he still is slighted. frankly its unbelievable!

Ironic isn't it that the people who own, run and have been long associated with the club have never questioned his place at the club!

2. Ownership/board - This will be the summer for me that will define our intentions as a club. Financially we are in a very positive position. While I believe we will always position ourselves in a prudent manner and remain fiscally responsible I believe this is our opportunity as a club to return to the top of the league. As such the ownership/board must do in return what they ask the supporters to do week in week out and payout some of the revenue from the highest ticket price in the land! Its time to spend some money!! Responsibly of course. it is the Arsenal way!

3. Players - I believe this will be the summer where we offload our dead wood (bendtner, vela, santos, etc) either through transfers, sales or simply letting them go and in return I believe we will make some important acquisitions. Outside of Sagna who played like a warrior today, I don't foresee any of our core including TV5 being sold this year. Ill leave the rumour mill to the experts. I look forward to reading the daily rumour mill of gossip!

Finally a shout out to the Ed's, the posters and all my fellow Gooners. nothing but mad love and respect! Have a great summer and I look forward to talking with all of you in the near future!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

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Well said mate. Definitely post of the day for me

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Finally someone speaking sense well done Arsene and the players

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Vela is not on the Arsenal books.

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20 May 2013 00:08:46
can santi dazorla speak english? he does so on his twitter account, but apart from his little talk after the wigan ome match, he hasn't done an interview in english. do you think he's just not that confident in speaking to the media yet? after all he must communicate with his team mates on a daiy basis.

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I don't care as long as he can play football, which clearly he can!

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20 May 2013 00:00:51
Just read a post referring to a rumour Usmanov has got the shares to make him the majority shareholder.

This would mean he would have had to taken this shareholding past 30%. I thought Kroenke had more than 50% though so to have made himself majority shgareholder Usmanov would have had to buy shares off Kroenke and, as I don't see much sense in Kroenke retaining a monority holding, this rumour if true would take Usmanov's holdin up to about 90%

I wonder if the actual truth maybe that Usmanov has bought enough shares to pass 30%? If that's the case then he has to make an offer to buy the other shareholders out. Doesn't mean they have to accept though so it could make the summer interesting

Just pray boardroom infighting doesn't paralyze the transfer activity! Also not sure how Usmanov coming in now would sit with FFP?

Not saying the rumour is wrong as I don't know just trying to clarify it lol

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Kroenke has over 60% of the shares. Unfortunately this means your rumour is pure fiction.

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