Arsenal Banter Archive February 24 2015

 

Use our rumours form to send us arsenal transfer rumours.

24 Feb 2015 22:52:51
We have scored a goal in first half hour in each of our past 9 games.

Let's make it 10.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed025's Note - that anorak looks a bit tight on you dags.. :)

24 Feb 2015 22:59:17
We have never lost a European fixture when Brian from Dorking has had cheese in his pack up 2 days previous to the game

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - that takes the biscuit G62, he must be crackers, and will be in a right pickle if we do lose..

24 Feb 2015 23:27:30
A mate of mine died in the 'Hood'.

It wasn't gang related.

He put his anorak on back to front.

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:26:20
They get worse dags

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:28:02
Theres panic in my area at the moment, people keep finding corn flakes and coco pops dumped on the side of the road in smashed up boxes.

They fear that there is a cereal killer at large!

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:59:08
Rolls eyes at 337 :-)

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 13:29:34
nice one g62 always good to see another python sketch get an airing.
In dags case he wouldn't need to use hypnosis to put an ant to sleep - couple of jokes would do.

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 17:55:56
Thanks Exiled, lol

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 22:46:09
Monaco topped their qualifying group.

But only scored 4 goals. (They only conceded 1).

Amazing.

They have 6 first team players out injured tomorrow.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 22:52:38
It seems they need a bit Giroud in their life, sorry Steve :-(

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 23:28:55
G62,

Its be nice to Steve day don't forget.

Oh hold on, that's tomorrow.

Carry on mate :-)

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 00:43:02
Giroud will be dipping his boots then.

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 17:03:33
One of the worst groups iv seen they were in. Wouldn't of got out any other group let alone finish top

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:38:32
Messi may be brilliant.

But he can't head a ball.

What a plonker.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 22:00:40
Fancy missing a header.............he has to go

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 10:31:59
giroud would not miss a header...giroud 1 messi 0

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:29:02
Did he duck?

Does that make BFG the second best player in the world now?

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:33:22
They will never win the league with him as first choice in the team

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:09:53
Just watching the Dortmund versus juventus game on the TV, or as the owners of Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG and Man City will call it, The Shopping Channel........

Believable5 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 21:21:17
Love it Epping.

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 22:01:04
Very very good Epping :-)

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 18:19:50
DIABY IS BACK!!

Thank god for that, I hope the curry hasn't. Gone cold, he left 2 hours ago.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 19:26:09
waste of space

sell him

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:03:29
Who's a waste of space? Giroud? :)

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:03:40
He's just gone for a drive in the country with Lord Lucan.
(not sure what country!)

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:35:53
I know,,,,, let Giroud get injured for the rest of the season and let's see what happens.

Clueless

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:48:38
Clueless, yeah right o princess

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:12:01
I'm just winding you up

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:38:07
Back in the treatment room.

Agree0 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 12:58:55
Don't know what the problem is, just change his position to 'left back' he's always been left back in the physio room!

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 17:38:05
Ideal summer
In
Ricardo Rodriguez-16mil
Rakitic-15mil (depending on bArca ban)
Begovic/cech-10mil
Benzema-30mil
Dennis preat-10mil


Out
Monreal-2mil
Flamini-free
SaNago-1mil
Podolski-2mil
Myiachi-1mil
Jenkinson-5mil
Ozil-35mil
Total=46mil

Believable0 Unbelievable5

24 Feb 2015 19:28:58
Ozil? Jenks? Monreal? There all showing their best form so why get rid now?

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:14:10
Why sell Ozil and get Rakitic?

I really do want what you smoke mate

Agree1 Disagree0

25 Feb 2015 17:05:26
Rakitic is a great player. Like Sanchez you won't see the best of him at barca

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 14:33:45
Hi gents, after the season is over and we get third or fourth, how would you re-inforce the squad as Arsene Wenger? Maximum three signings to make us real title challengers. let's assume a budget of say 75million.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 17:07:49
Two positions that stand out are GK and CDM. LB, CB and ST could also do with improvements.

Budget of £75m could realistically see us sign:

GK - Begovic - £15m (Szsencny out - £10m)
CB - Hummels - £30m (Mertesacker out - £5m)
CDM - Khedira - £5m signing on fee (Flamini out - £0m)
ST - Lacazette - £30m (Podolski out - £5m)

Agree0 Disagree1

24 Feb 2015 19:50:07
Can't say I know much about lacazette - but is he worth £30million?
His scoring record for Lyon is not as good as Giroud!

Think we would struggle to get Hummels as the clubs who are after him are liable to get into a fight and end up paying unsustainable wages and I suspect more than £30 million.

Last couple of times I've seen khedira he hasn't really shone but I would certainly take him if we could get him fro £5million.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:42:23
Lacazette has 22 in 23 this season

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 21:16:09
Agree with DG in that I would swap Shez for Begovic. With the remaking 65 mil or so would add Shneiderling and Khedirha and either a forward such as Benzema or an attacking winger/ forward such as Draxler. Or blow it all on Cavani and spider...unless Reus strangely comes available and then it's spend whatever is required to get him and then worry about what's left afterwards!!

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 23:53:38
We are getting min second.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 14:15:10
Banbury. The point earlier was a tongue in cheek reply to dags. We need more than a striker to win the league, I didn't mean it was the only thing we need.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 19:22:08
Understood

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 09:28:09
A FIFA task force has recommended playing the 2022 World Cup in Qatar in November/December.

What the hell?

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 14:10:41
if you do head to the middle east during those months and then try heading out another time of the year, you will see why its not a bad idea, unless you want to see players collapsing and dehydrating every 4-5 mins. it's just not humane.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 17:10:07
Think the simple solution is not to have the world cup in Qatar.

No complaints about a world cup not been held in the Sahara, Greenland or Antarctica. Qatar is just as unsuitable.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 18:02:11
you can't have a tournament like WC in Qatar for the same reason that you can't have it in Sahara desert or Antarctica. Its just not practical.

If the administration is really keen to give the games to middle east for at least once there are other countries with acceptable and normal climates Such as Turkey, Iran, Egypt and ... but these counties are politically unstable or have poor relations with west.
At the end there is no need to be overly sensitive; The should just forget about middle east for the next 2 decades and hopefully things will be better in the future

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed025's Note - but would they still get their bungs?..

24 Feb 2015 19:15:36
Two great world cups to wet the appetite, Russia and Quatar. And there wasnt any bribes or money sweetners involved. Honest.

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 20:37:05
I am surprised there hasn't been an assassination attempt on that corrupt little mans life

Agree1 Disagree1

25 Feb 2015 00:50:43
They should've just left it for their neighbourd(United Arab Emirates(our sponser not Barca's one))... The fridge stadium would've been done by now without complainsBy the way who saw their ski park in their heat... If they did that already than they could've built it by now.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - they weren't in for it because of the difficulties. The Emirates has enough to worry about building ready for the 2020 Expo.}

24 Feb 2015 08:49:23
brooklyn beckham released finally the guy whos place was unfairly taken by him can now continue with his carear.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 15:19:37
My GF's son played with him at arsenal he wasn't great but was ok, the joke was that he was given special treatment and didn't have to train every week with the others, unfortunately my GFs son left because there were a few like that and if he missed training once he was dropped.

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 01:02:57
In my opinion our last four great strikers were wright, anelka, henry and rvp. Honestly how many of you would have giroud in our team ahead of those on all round ability and impact.Me id have any or, i'm not knocking the guy, i'm just saying he ain't up to the standard we are used to.

Believable1 Unbelievable2

{Ed025's Note - ....as i said spoilt..

24 Feb 2015 06:56:38
Herbert Chapman Steve? Its 2015 mate and time to throw away that twin tub and forget all about that mangle :-)

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 09:17:06
Yes we have been spoilt for strikers and those four were a different class, but I'm still not having that there are ten better Arsenal strikers, over the years, than Giroud.

Newcastle don't live in the past and compare all their strikers to Shearer. They wouldn't be 'legendary' footballers if they could be replaced easily.

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 10:06:12
Perfectgoal,

Very very very good point.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 10:47:22
What an awseome reply by PefectGoal, stop living in the past steve, neither can utd at the moment gloat about strikers from Andy Cole and Yroke. and RVP seriously a person who scored 30 goals once, isn't great.

Agree1 Disagree1

24 Feb 2015 13:44:47
Hood who living in the past, what are you talking about. i'm making a point to a discussion not started by me.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 14:01:51
Tpg Newcastle don't compare all their strikers to alan shearer, is a strange statement. i'm 100% certain they do, and if they dont, its because, the ameobi brother's etc are not even worth comparing to the likes of carl cort, shefki kuki etc. The point is like a lot of clubs with any supporters with opinion they will not be happy, especially Newcastle. Lol

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 15:14:29
Huh? I genuinely can't make sense steve sorry. How can you say you're 100% sure they do and then say 'if they don't'?

I am friends with a couple Newcastle fans (yes I'm that desperate), and they would be happy with another Demba Ba or even having Giroud in their squad. They, like all of us, would love a team full of legends but you have to be realistic and they certainly don't use Shearer to set the bar for all of their other forwards.

Shall we just agree to disagree about Giroud being the worst Arsenal striker for 20 years and let's look forward to Monaco tomorrow night?

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 15:21:45
Poor old Alan Smith!

Joking aside Stevo, we take your point there but the top 10 was a bit harsh, when some of the others played they were solely strikers with one job, Giroud does work hard and has plaenty of assists too

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 15:52:56
Tpg and 337. i'm interested in your replies. Is giroud good enough to win us the league and cl.Or do we need to upgrade.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 16:56:10
It is not Giroud's job to win us the league and CL by himself. He is not the team, he is a striker and based on the fact that Liverpool won the CL with Harry Kewell and Milan Baros upfront, and the year before, Porto won it with Alberto and Derlei upfront, I would say yes a team can win with Giroud upfront.

An upgrade would make it easier, that is why it is called an upgrade but with that logic, an upgrade in any position of the team would help us ofcourse.

I am just answering your question, I never said he was a league winner or a CL winner - just not the worst striker we've had in 20 years and you're still yet to change my mind on there being ten better Arsenal strikers over the years. If you'd have just said he's not good enough there would be no problem but you've placed Kanu, Bendtner, Wiltord, Adebayor, Jeffers (who was also not a stand in), Chamakh, Vela and Aliadiere above him which to me is absurd.

Agree0 Disagree2

24 Feb 2015 18:41:55
Tpg you obviously have not been following, where did you get half these players from, i didn't litterally mean you can include reserves and loanees. I named 10 players most of yours you have brought out from the scrap bin weren't mentioned by me and quite honestly you are taking it in a different dierection completely and ill be honest, i was making a point and you are taking it to somewhere that is not worth persuing. I think you may have the wrong end of the stick or we have lost the plot somewhere down the line. We call it quits.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 18:54:54
Simple question Steve and for me the simple answer is YES he is, he as good as most top strikers in terms of scoring just not the very best but he offers more than most else where in his game IMO

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 19:10:11
Tpg you are taking things too literally, the bit at the end about if it wasnt 100% and ameobi and kuki etc was a bit of fun, did you not see lol at the end.

Agree0 Disagree0

23 Feb 2015 23:27:10
Carragher arguing with the great Henry about defenders.................amusing

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 12:40:51
I guess he shld his goal once more againt liverpool where they all just fell over, and tell Henry he is right.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 19:25:16
Can anyone translate Hoods post lol

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 00:09:07
Guys my comments about "hard away games" was more about mindset rather than thinking all away gsmes should be easy points

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 07:13:48
The head to head games with top sides are more prestigious than decisive avoiding the banana skin defeats and draws have a much bigger say on who finishes where. Chavs record this season shows that, which teams have beaten them? Burnley and even utd held them

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 08:18:47
Nothing wrong with players thinking a game will be hard, gets them up for it and the right attitude, its thinking the game is won before you take the field that's the problem

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 09:55:54
I saw your point JK, I think it was Kompany who said recently that teams like Stoke can be tougher than Barcelona (although he may be trying to wind Barca up ahead of tonight, though his point still remains).

Agree0 Disagree0

23 Feb 2015 23:20:30
Being fair JM does say he can't understand why we aren't up there with Chelsea or M City, say's what very good players we have . They are a team for more .........whatever he means like that .

" Wenger has a dream job " lol

Wenger is a fantastic manager .

Fantastic squad.

Just to balance the arguement

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 07:21:55
I think the big difference is Wenger is patient and loyal mourinho is decisive and ruthless, Arsene has two seasons left to achieve his ambitions so we may see him become a little less patient and much more ruthless this summer, its been a very tough season for Arsene I can't see him wanting or gladly accepting another two like it

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 10:05:20
This season is nothing for Arsene, the last few years have been tough for him, when we had less spending money, a transition to a new stadium and pitch plus no consistent back line - all whilst losing the invincibles squad and having to try and replace them.

Wenger is a very patient guy, like g62 says. I think Mourinho does have respect for Wenger at the end of the day and I reckon this isn't just an attempt to get under AW's skin for once. Good manager, petty person.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 10:49:19
Lol BG that is JM, just trying to deflect topics on Racism and other stuff, it becomes easy when you do this, by deflecting the attention to somewhere else, this is normal. Now he has gone back put pressure on Refrees and he always just loves Wenger. Its called deflection, and its high time he comes out of it.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 15:11:55
Hoody

I am just balancing the discussion, I know you would love to just hear one side .

The point is that JM has now said it and it sticks

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 16:32:18
Thats once again to deflect stuff, to the actual topics for discussions, JM literally gets away with even murder, and has done so again.

Agree0 Disagree0

23 Feb 2015 22:40:18
Steve

We often see eye to eye, but I am struggling with this .

We can buy a striker to win us the league?

That isn't where our issue is, surely you can see that .

What will a striker do?

Genuine question mate

Believable0 Unbelievable0

24 Feb 2015 00:52:49
My point is giroud won't win us the league. He may help cement the fourth place trophy but the guy is not top class, he's not mobile enough is not lethal enough when the chips are down and he's not repeat not a top top striker, he would be great to bring of the bench or back up but he doesn't do it for me. I stand by what I have said right from the start, every striker we have had in the last 20 years were better than giroud, and I mean main striker, not stand ins.

Agree1 Disagree1

{Ed025's Note - the thing is steve..you have been spoilt mate..in the striking department you have had the likes of smith, wrighty, RVP, and the legend that is henry!, not forgetting...franny jeffers.. :)

24 Feb 2015 08:48:29
steve is spot on. don't know how anyone can disagree with his take on giroud

Agree1 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 09:27:50
Wiltord was good but Giroud has a better record both in England and in France, Bendtner wasn't a stand in, Kanu's number of Arsenal league goals has already been surpassed by Giroud in nowhere near as many games etc.

I'm not having ago Steve I usually agree with you and can respect that you don't think Giroud is good enough, however I just think your statements about him are a little over the top, he's not the worst striker we've had for the last 20 years believe me - he's not even the worst striker that we have now! Plus some of the names in your 'top 10' list, well I have to echo BG's post on that.

Agree0 Disagree0

24 Feb 2015 16:07:20
Tpg opinions. BENTNER. where did that spring from. Is he still on loan.

Agree0 Disagree0