Arsenal Banter Archive April 30 2014

30 Apr 2014 21:51:21
So now that Chelsea have been knocked out.

and The specialist in failure is in the FA cup final.

so whose season will be considered a failure?

Man City if they don't win the league, but have won the league cup?

Chelsea if they don't win the league?

Arsenal not winning the league and depends on the FA cup

or Liverpool may or may not win the league.

obviously only 1 of 3 will win it, so are they others considered failed season?


on a side note did anyone notice that chelsea home record was taken away by sunderland, and today sunderland from madrid did the same, should we change to striped red and white jerseys for chelsea games?

oh and my insider source has told me john terry was seen crying all over the world on tv cameras not because they lost the game, but because he wanted to go to lisbon and do someones wife, now that he can't go to lisbon he has to do his own wife.

Lol good post Laker

No its not dags :-P

No matter what, Liverpools season has been a success, depending on city or Chelsea, whichever one of them wins the league (if Liverpool don't) the others season should be considered a failure, the capital one cup is a measly return for all that money spent in the summer for city, and for Chelsea, you can't go one season without a trophy with Mourinho, that's just embarrasing, he may as well leave London and not come back right now.

Yeah it is Chris, lol

30 Apr 2014 21:36:02
Just a quick, naysaying post (sorry!)

Lots of people seem to be taking Lothar Matthaus's talk about Djrmic as gospel.

He said it's a 'done deal' and that Djrmic's wife is looking at flats In London for then.

Djrmic isn't married.


So, all in saying, is if he's wrong/mistaken/lying about one small thing like that, why not anything else?

Peace.

Lets hope so. Still he is a doctor mic could be useful elsewhere in the club. Not what I was hoping for. I hope mataus is telling porkies.

Fair point but I think he re-tweeted and said "girlfriend".

At 4.5 million he's our man is my guess

30 Apr 2014 21:18:59
Looks like Mourinho's bus has broken down.

When the parking works its genius, but when it brakes down it shows they can't play any other way.

was way too impressed with Athletico. they may win the champions league and la liga, with a budget even we should be ashamed off. well done Athletico and Dortmund, you show that it can be done. wenger should be taking coaching classes from klopp and simione.

30 Apr 2014 18:35:34
Poll of the day.

Would you swap Ozil for Cesc?
(Great question, what Ed thought of that one?)

The result is currently 12% NO.

Wow, a bit surprised to be honest, thought it would be closer.

No point I am sure we have an option at around 25mil? We payed 42mil for Ozil that sounds like a bad deal tbf especially when Cesc has been far from the player who left us for the last 2 seasons. Now Cesc + Pedro and I am sure a few would change their stance I know I would! :)

No swapping we buy cesc and add to ozil

I heard the deal was cesc + 30 mill making it around 55mill in total?

still i'd say no and pay for him to replace arteta

current captain past it? bring in a new one, a new one that is also an old one? bonus!

30 Apr 2014 13:14:06
Hi edd according to guillem balague barca are having a big clear out and expects Valdez, song, fabregas, alvez, tello, Sanchez, batra all to leave and they will make 2 world class signings that will go straight into the starting 11 firstly is there interest in any barca player and if they sell fabregas do we have first refusal also if he's sold to another club do we make any money also edd do they want any arsenal players maybe koscielny or ozil thanks very much really appreciate it

{Ed002's Note - Hummels, Halilović Griezmann, Kroos, ter Stegen and Müller seem to be the players Barcelona are interested in right now. I would expect Tello, Mascherano, Sanchez, Valdes, Alex Song and Afellay to move on. Possibly Pedro and Fabregas.

If Arsenal wish to show interest in any they know what they need to do.}

Would take Tello on the cheap he looks really lively every time I see him play for Barca.

Tello has pace but i'm not sure he has the strength to play that position in the EPL.

Mascherano is too old, Alex song is no good, Valdes will end up with a massive pay cheque, and Afellay is crap.

Sanchez would cost way too much and I don't think wenger is even looking at him.

Cesc is the only player I would like back, hope we have that buy back option, would hate to see him end up with our rivals. as we know his quality in the EPL. hope they keep him thou.

30 Apr 2014 13:59:58
Question - with Drmic said to coming in (again), what do people think this means for "big striker" signing.

As with last year, I suspect the merri-go-round is going to be sparked by the sale of one big striker.

In this case, Diego Costa MAY be a small spark, but I think IF Cavani moves, then we will see a flurry of activity accordingly.

As such players will be moving around for 40-50mln, which I still believe is a one off for arsenal

30 Apr 2014 06:58:01
I think it was Rocky that mentioned about who descision was the Ozil signing. Personally, I believe it may have been the descision of the team upstairs. Arsene may have suggested something, but I believe it was upstairs that decided to test the water and put their hands in their pockets and spend big.
This is why it was so important that Ozil turned in a great performance this season. It needed to show to everybody concerned that things have changed and moved on. The days of Arsene buying a cheap top quality player and molding him into what you want are now unfortunately behind the times. Quality now costs!. So unless a club is prepared or can afford to buy big, then you are going to end up with what we have seen over the last few seasons in not having that little bit extra in pushing us over the line. You cannot expect in today's climate a striker that costs £12 million to perform like one that costs £70 million unless you found a genius and nobody has ever heard of him which is unlikely. Managers jobs are not easy today you are very much restricted to what your club can afford to put on the pitch. Basically making the best you can with the tools that's been provided. That's why as I said in a post ages ago I can't see the English Premier League and all the other top European leagues existing in their present forms within the next 15 years maybe sooner. The money has taken over there will be a permanent European league. The devide has become too great already.

I've been expecting it for 20 years GOLDBOY but nothing close to it so far thankfully, I think if or when t does come it will be Global rather than European when money really takes over there will be few boundaries and countries like America and China will want to be at the forefront of it controlling it from day one

Wenger will have made all decisions regarding the signing of Ozil, to think otherwise is simply wrong. It was an inspired signing, we had lost to Villa and had only signed Flamini on a free & one for the future in Sanogo. It lifted the spirit of the club and provided a challenge for the league, until injuries took hold. We have a good chance of winning the FA Cup & qualifying for the Champions League.

I think its easy to forget the lift the fans and players alike got when Mesut arrived, we all of a sudden believed everything was possible this season! would we be top 4 now if we hadn't signed him? I don't know.
I'm not saying he has done things single handedly because that's no where near true but his impact mentally as well as physically on the team is easy to under estimate

{Ed025's Note - it showed intent for me G62, that they were not scared to spend big money if the right target becomes available..

Its so easy 7 months on to forget just how big a deal it was when we signed Mesut Ozil Ed, I for one never thought it possible and remember pacing the floor and kicking the dog waiting for the TV to say it was a done deal, a few hours seemed like a month that night :-)

{Ed025's Note - leave the dog alone!..we are an animal friendly site G62, thats why we even let millwall supporters on.. :)

Its ok Ed it wasn't my dog, it was next doors I just borrowed it for the evening for the kids sakes.

Gold

Yes I made a suggestion from reading another article that the decision may not have been solely Wengers.
Yes he would have said he wanted the player. Would be daft not to.
But considering the circumstances, off the back of the villa result on day 1, the fans reaction to Wenger and the fact it was all done pretty quickly in the last 24/48 hours of the window.
It's not an unfeasable option that the board took control of the money side.

I appreciate people's views on here who say that Wenger deals with every aspect. But this is SO un Wenger like. I'm not complaining because finally we have signed a true World class player.

Ed025. You summed that up perfectly mate. "It showed intent" exactly that. It needed someone to step up to the plate and say " You know what? it's about time we stopped pussy footing about and started to look serious for a change". I agree with Rocky too Wenger made a suggestion but I believe if he had been pulling the money up the deal wouldn't have happened. It was completely unknown territory for us that sort of money. Somebody had to have said " let's do it"

{Ed025's Note - you never know goldie, it could just be the start of a new chapter in the history of AFC, where all the big players out there are sought after by the gunners whatever the cost!, with the stadium paid for the kitty is limitless, and the likes of falcao, and cavani are waiting with baited breath for the phone to ring with an offer from arsene?..or are we just dreaming mate?.. :)

A reason I would say this is possible is that Wenger WILL leave eventually., most likely in 2 years time. So it would seem sensible that sooner or later that certain powers are taken from Wenger.
The club won't sit still for 2 years and have no foundation beyond Wengers term. At that point players like Ozil ( if still at the club ) will be hitting the prime of his career. So we can't afford to negotiate the Wenger way any more.
If it goes back to the old way of " we low ball " every deal then you will know the Ozil deal was a pure fans pressure deal.

Totally agree with all of the above.

For me, the annoying thing is, I believe we are 1 or 2 players short of being able to win the Prem League and go further in the CL.

Ok, I'm not talking about average players. You buy average players you become an average team.
I'm talking top top players. You buy world class players than you become a world class team.

As Ed025 rightly said, we have the money, so spend it.

Ed025. Hope you are right mate. There is no harm in dreaming. Sometimes the dreams come true.

{Ed025's Note - mine dont...jenny has not been on for ages.. :)