Arsenal Banter Archive August 06 2015

 

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06 Aug 2015 22:56:03
Is it Giroud or walcott upfront on Saturday what are people's thoughts?

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{Ed030's Note - I think Arsenal should alternate the players to keep them both fit and tailor who plays out of the two too the opposition, something which all good teams should be able to do. You have the option of pure pace with Walcott or the more physical and technical Giroud. For Saturday it would be Giroud for me. }

06 Aug 2015 23:24:27
Agree with Ed030.

I think Giroud will have more luck against Winston Reid's physical presence.

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06 Aug 2015 23:37:08
I agree Olly will start Sunday and Theo will probably come on with 20 to go to expose tired minds and legs.
Because of the Europa league qualifiers West Ham will up to speed quicker than most this season, I remember a few years back in the inter toto cup days they got off to a brilliant start then it caught up with them around December time.

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07 Aug 2015 06:37:18
Walcott will start or possibly both, with Walcott on the right and Giroud central. The Ox would then, wrongly in my mind, be on the bench. Imagine the problem when Sanchez & Welbeck are available! Nice problem.....

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07 Aug 2015 07:24:47
Sanchez won't play on Sunday so I would think walcott and ox to start with giroud

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07 Aug 2015 09:40:12
I expect the same side that beat Chelsea ( wow that felt good to say ) with the exception of Giroud for Walcott to start Sunday.
Jenks can't play so the hammers will be using there second choice RB which might be a weak spot worth exploring.

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07 Aug 2015 09:45:37
Just hope he doesn't shift Ozil wide. For me
Cech
Bellerin gab kos Gibbs
Le coq carzorla
Ox ozil Ramsey
Giroud

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07 Aug 2015 12:51:29
Not really bothered who starts up front. My concern is I don't want ozil or ramsey wide, ox has to start and as I was alluding to earlier, sancaz out or rested, we need another wide player. I wonder whether a little bit of experimenting may be going on with walcott and giroud.

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07 Aug 2015 14:15:41
The real difficult one for me is that whilst Sanchez rests I'd have Ramsey out left and ox permantly out right. But when alexis is back what do you do with Ramsey . Do you play him instead of cazorla or do you play him as a pair with cazorla at the expense of le coq when teams are putting more men behind the ball . Obviously le coq starts against teams that cause us problems in midfield. Just don't know what to do with Ramsey with a fully fit squad

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06 Aug 2015 22:55:48
Just to clarify my opinion. Keeper, covered, rb covered, cb covered, with reservations, left back, gibbs needs replacing, chm coq need a decent alli, cam covered, wings ok, but unless gnabry is given a crack i would like another ( don't like ramsay, caz or ozil on wings, never ) striker, we need a marquee signing to challenge giroud. My opinio, i don't expect all to agree, but i'm saying this for a league winning squad not challenging.

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06 Aug 2015 23:19:01
I pretty much agree with all of that, although I'd be happy if the left back position wasn't touched if we signed a CDM and Striker.

Wanyama and Benzema would be my choices for the respective positions.

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{Ed025's Note - join the club peter..

06 Aug 2015 23:24:23
I'd move Gibbs into MF and only use him as 3rd choice desperado LB, in MF he can afford to lose position defensively a little without exposing us as much and going forward he's a talented boy. He will only be a squad player with us where ever we play him but he will be more of an asset than liability in MF.

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06 Aug 2015 23:28:11
Agree Steve.

We need a younger physical presence to compete/compliment Coquelin.

Gnabry could be going on loan to West Brom, which is a bit of a surprise.

I think we could cope without a striker signing, but if we get Benzema, we would be pushed to another level.

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06 Aug 2015 23:57:44
Fully agree. People think Gibbs and monreal are good enough but they ain't unless we're happy with 4th le coq needs competition and a striker. Won't guarantee the leauge but it will make it more likely

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07 Aug 2015 06:34:48
Keepers - Sorted
Defence - Sorted, ideally I would replace Monreal with a top quality LB & keep Gibbs
DM - Need a player to play alongside or as an alternative to Coquelin
M/AM - Sorted
A - Need a top striker, such as Lewandowski

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07 Aug 2015 08:52:41
Once again people only talking not giving names though who shld be bought at LB who is better than what we have and is romping goals dribbles assists left right center?

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07 Aug 2015 09:28:44
Rodriquez is better and Gaya will be better . Could we get them. Yes if we paid the asking price Rodriquez would be 30+ mill and god knows with gaya

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07 Aug 2015 10:01:09
Ricardo Rodriguez Mystifier? Renowned for his heading ability (how many times have we conceded a goal due to our LB being out-jumped at the back post?) Last season he scored 10 goals, he can deliver a great cross which would obviously suit Giroud and he is still only 22. Plus, he can take penalties, something we aren't so good at - he is Wolfburg's penalty taker and can take a good free kick too.

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07 Aug 2015 12:53:29
Mystifier names have all ready been given, but in the end of the day that's someone elses job.

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07 Aug 2015 14:16:26
alex sandro from porto is a class LB. arsenal have apparently had him scouted over the past year too.

alex telles is a good player also, although could probably do with another year playing in turkey before making the step up.

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07 Aug 2015 14:19:47
TPG and Steve that's right we can put names down but that's it. Rodriquez is amazing as well of what you mentioned he also is a set piece wizard. Top top player going out of your way to get a player of that calibre is serious upgrade and title winning behaviour but obviously get the striker and comp for le coq first

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06 Aug 2015 22:34:26
Interesting, but sad post.

Over past 4 years, Jack has averaged exactly 50% playing time.

The other 50%, obviously injured.

Hhmmm, enigma?

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06 Aug 2015 23:33:03
I would think its only half and half. All though looking at it another way, 50% +50% he's giving the club 100%.

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07 Aug 2015 01:09:50
Yeah, thanks for that Steve :-)

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07 Aug 2015 07:27:11
Not good enough footballers always talk about 110% where did that 10% go?

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06 Aug 2015 20:11:32
This time 2 years ago Szczesney Gibbs Wilshere Walcott are all if fit guaranteed starters in our best 11, but today if all are fit not one can get into our best 11 unless Theo is preferred up top to Olly.
It does show just how much things have improved that those we pinned all our hopes on just a short while ago are now the extras and no longer top of the bill.

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06 Aug 2015 22:29:46
I think the only guaranteed starters we have are Cech, Kos and Alexis.

Ozil also seems to get the nod, irrespective of position.

Looking good.

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{Ed030's Note - Ramsey is a guaranteed starter in my opinion. }

06 Aug 2015 23:34:03
Add coq to that.

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06 Aug 2015 23:34:53
Add caz to that.

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06 Aug 2015 23:32:08
What position though Ed?

I don't think he should play right wing, we have more accomplished players for that role.

Ramsey is great in CAM role, but so is Santi Cazorla.

Dilemma?

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{Ed001's Note - Cazorla played cm brilliantly last season, Ozil as cam. Ramsey would just have to alter alternate positions a bit. Wenger is trying to replicate his first tactical trick at Arsenal, with Parlour now replaced by Ramsey. When you have the ball he plays out wide on the right, when you lose it he tucks in narrow and protects Cazorla. Personally I think it worked really well at times and Wenger now has options tsctically to pick his team to best suit the opponent.}

06 Aug 2015 23:59:00
I agree ed but in place of who Cazorla or are you happy for him to do a job on the right

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{Ed001's Note - you don't think it works then? I thought he did well on the right at times. He just needed to get used to it and grow in confidence. Not something I would do every game though.}

07 Aug 2015 00:41:17
Add mert go that

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07 Aug 2015 09:49:17
I did he does we'll out there. He will eventually move in and take caz place when he's done there

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07 Aug 2015 10:04:13
Ramsey is a very good player ed, but I can't believe you just compared him to the Romford Pele!

Stephen, I have a feeling you may be surprised this season. I'd like to see a lot more of Gabriel.

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{Ed001's Note - hehehe I know big boots for him to fill there!!}

06 Aug 2015 19:49:30
Squad numbers gave been done but we have a number available hope we buy a player to fill it

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06 Aug 2015 22:31:55
Unless we sign Messi, number 52 should never be used.

Homage to a legend.

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07 Aug 2015 07:29:01
We should retire the number

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06 Aug 2015 19:43:21
I'm going to predict who will win the premier league but I can't tell you until the season has finished ;)

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06 Aug 2015 19:50:01
That's worse than a dags joke

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06 Aug 2015 19:55:29
But bould mate

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06 Aug 2015 22:17:32
I wish I thought of that one Stephen :-)

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07 Aug 2015 00:41:54
Lol u would

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06 Aug 2015 19:10:47
How the hell can anyone be blamed for JW's injury , nice to know we tackle in training .

Dont anyone shoot me though for saying this , but I'm afraid Jack could be another Diaby .

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06 Aug 2015 19:58:24
Your only saying what every one is thinking mate, maybe he will do a horrible Dutch bloke and get fit at 26 years old, 50/50 Diarby or Dutch for me.

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06 Aug 2015 20:30:06
After he came back early to ensure he had a great pre season and get that bit fitter, it is a huge disappointment.

The only thing that goes in his favour is the fact that the last two injuries are the result of tackles as opposed to a reoccurrence of his original ankle injury where as Diaby's continuos injury woes were all as a direct result of that ankle break.

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06 Aug 2015 21:02:39
I agree, glad to see the players getting stuck in but some of the abuse Gabriel has received is shocking.. Jack's ankles are made of glass, great player but I doubt we will ever see the full extent of his potential.

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06 Aug 2015 21:42:38
That's the crux of it Jenny . It's also the way he carries the ball and releases it last minute. He draws tackles fouls with his dribbles

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06 Aug 2015 18:31:11
I really hope these rumours about Benzema are true, he is the missing link I believe to make us serious title contenders and be able to compete in the latter stages of the CL, I just don't want to get my hopes up because we've had this before with higuain. Graham hunter on T Sport said this morning the deal is doable but Benzema would have to ask to leave, real need the money and arsenal have the money. Please arsene, get this deal done or categorically say "we don't want Benzema" so it can be put to rest because I don't know how much longer I can keep refreshing my internet browser for any news on this! Lol

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06 Aug 2015 14:16:17
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06 Aug 2015 12:52:56
Hi guys,
Not posted in a while but been reading your comments. Love it to bits. Thanks to all the Eds.

I was wondering if you guys agree that it might be worth going Javi Martinez for our CDM problems. I have not seen him feature for Bayern much.

Another thing is- now that JW has complicated things a bit with his new injury, would it worth going after Goetze. He is not happy at Bayern according to reports. If that fails or is too expensive, why not take gamble on Gourcuff. What say u?

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06 Aug 2015 13:12:40
Gourcuff yes I think he would be a good signing as he is free

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06 Aug 2015 13:21:27
When he's fit and healthy he's the best holding midfielder in the world in my opinion better than matic he can also play cb been wishing we signed him for the last couple of seasons now that pep likes playing lahm in midfield I can't see were javi fits in

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06 Aug 2015 14:08:04
He's injury prone so he would fit in perfect at Arsenal ;)

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06 Aug 2015 15:20:02
Gourcuff is also very injury prone and, in my opinion, wouldn't bring anything better than what we already have. Javi Martinez would be a good shout but I think Goetze would be very dear, especially in terms of wages

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06 Aug 2015 12:33:22
Anyone see Toni Kroos blank Bale earlier today?
Now Jack's injured, Gnabry's off to WBA on loan and Flamini is allowed to leave, it's clear to me we're about to sign Kroos and Benzema in a double swoop.

Joking done with, I've seen today that some 'fans' are sending Gabriel threats via social media.
I know nothing's been said like that on here, but I think it just needs to be out there that it's not Gabriel's fault.
Bad tackles happen.
It's an accident, he could of made the a tackle 100 times over and probably hurt the player once, Jack's injury problems probably didn't help his resistance though.

The point is, there's contact in training.
It happens.
If you're going to blame a player for tackling, you may as well blame a keeper for diving and hurting his hand/shoulder, or blame a player for sprinting and pulling a hammy.

Yes, it's frustrating Jack's injured, I'm sure he feels like that too, but at the end of the day it's an accident.
If we start turning on players because they made a mistake, all we're doing is giving other players cause for concern.

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06 Aug 2015 13:11:26
That is truly unbelievable, it wouldn't nor did it even enter my head that he should be blamed.

A sad indictment of the idiots out there. :-(

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06 Aug 2015 14:15:45
Not his fault Jacks ankle is made of glass! But in all seriousness this was the season to truly prove himself and nail down a first team place but with his injury record I now think that Jack won't be living up to the potential he obviously has.

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06 Aug 2015 17:40:54
Sorry Jacks got injured ( not at all surprised) but glad our players are being allowed to tackle each other in training again, the biggest criticism I've read from ex players about their time at Arsenal was the non contact training that they felt made the team soft and less competitive in matches.
I'm sure Gabriel understands there morons where you go and no real Arsenal fan would dream of holding him responsible.

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06 Aug 2015 12:28:48
Why has my post been removed?

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06 Aug 2015 11:12:08
Apparently it's happening this Sunday and the Benzema will finally land in Arsene's lap :-)
If not its deffinately on deadline day but failing that it's 100% guaranteed happening in January or summer 2019 at the very latest if there's no last minute problems which delay it until 2025, medical passing dependent of course.

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06 Aug 2015 12:29:59
g62 I can't believe you've gone and ruined the surprise. :-)

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06 Aug 2015 13:14:17
Maybe by 2030 he will have his debut for arsenal lol

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06 Aug 2015 15:22:40
Cheers for the info update G62, I'm very excited now

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06 Aug 2015 10:24:31
I know some people are desperate to see more signings and of course I understand they want us to be as strong as possible but there's much to be said about having a squad that's already fully integrated going into a season.
Falco last season like a few before him showed it can take time for even top players to adjust to the EPL and once you have them in your squad its very difficult not to play them and its possible a new super striker could cost you the league rather than win you it.
If make further signings great but if we don't that's not the end of the world because having a settled fully ingratiated squad does have its advantages too.

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06 Aug 2015 11:04:59
That's all very true G62 but I still would feel a lot more confident with a few new faces mate. There's obviously pros and cons for both mate but I think we should edge our bets

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06 Aug 2015 11:58:23
Its a great feeling to know whether we stick or twist we've still got a great hand and it will most probably take a five card trick to stop us this time round Brow mate, makes a nice change from the everyone knowig your bluffing of the last few seasons :-)

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06 Aug 2015 08:14:05
Morning Steve,

Thanks for the reply further down the page, I've always been an Arsene fan but like all managers he has made mistakes, or what we perceive are mistakes, that have tested my patience to the limit.

Saying that I believe he has with the introduction, by mistake, luck, fluke or design, of Coquelin turned a massive corner in taking the team forward.

It's clear he has seen what that has done for the team and continues with that style of play which we can all see is so much better. We look like a cohesive unit with an abundance of quality.

I feel that Gabriel will be a top replacement for Mertesacker if the latter should falter at all this season.

I also think Monreal and Gibbs will be enough at left back, there are not many top quality ones out there and Chamberlain tore the supposed best one in the epl a new one on Sunday.

So I don't think Wenger is denying replacements are needed and with Coquelin, many a player, John Terry as an example play 38 games a season, could easily do that with some relief from Arteta, who I would rather see upgraded if I'm honest.

Finally striker and ed02 has eluded to the fact Wenger is looking at that position as well as DM so for me it's not denial, he would seem to be trying to make it happen.

Wenger is a winner, he doesn't want clowns like Mourinho taunting him, he wants to win every single game and every single trophy and I genuinely have no doubt he will win the league again with us.

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{Ed025's Note - good post that stoner..

06 Aug 2015 10:56:28
Well it doesn't matter if it was by mistake, Le Coq has turned it around still the credit needs to go wenger Simple.

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06 Aug 2015 14:10:02
As always a great post by stoner

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06 Aug 2015 22:33:09
Good post stoner, we have a very good squad, we are ready, but we, in my opinion have some issues that could be strengthened in the team /squad. Cech was a great signing, but if the goal keeper needed upgrading, then there are other parts that need stregthening too. The squad is basically the same as last season, just having the fit players back, isn't enough, they are all serial offenders and with players leaving there is space and money to stregthen and give insurance to make sure we are covered from every eventuality. There is still time and i'm not panicking yet, so it may still happen, we need two or three players with one being a top striker.

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{Ed030's Note - Personally unsure about the fullbacks, Not entirely convinced on Monreal and I have my doubts over Bellerin performing consistently over a full season as it is a lot to expect from a youngster. Plus the fact Arsenal always seem to get unlucky with injuries. The signing of Cech is a good piece of business and Arsenal have a lot of attacking talent at their disposal. }

07 Aug 2015 00:02:21
The thing with bellerin is that we have debuchy so I think Rb is tied down. Also have jenks if the poo hits the fan

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06 Aug 2015 07:16:40
For steve read your post below and i am not sure which positions in our team has glaring flaws we know the obv striker, what else? Are u will to let coq play 2nd fiddle after performing so well to a DM? That just isn't going to happen. I am sure rotation btw arteta and flamini if he is there would be good enough backup. Which other positions are u talking abt please let me know.

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06 Aug 2015 10:22:46
Mystifier. If we are on about competing with chelsea and Europe here's what we need.

Better left back rodriquez or Gaya would do
Good quality back up/comp for le coq (a better quality of depth needed for sure)
And a CF

Steve appears to be a realist to me.

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{Ed025's Note - a moaning realist brow..but the guy does tell it like it is mate.. :)

06 Aug 2015 10:55:31
I still don't understand why we need a LB, i don't think there is anyone lighting up, as before when there was a Bale, or Ashley Cole. DM i have rested my case i wouldn't stunt the growth and potential of Le Coq to trade for someone like Khiedra, and a better quality Backup who would play 2nd fiddle now that's some long shot, we are lucky enough to have Gabriel who is fine even though he isn't first choice, and he costed a few quid just to remind you, so we have a 16m CB who isn't even first choice.

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06 Aug 2015 11:50:29
The reason Gab isn't first choice is because since he was bought we have had a great run and you don't change a winning team. As for stunting le coq?? Competition should only make any sportsman worth his salt better. Monreal and Gibbs are ok sometime good but usually just ok. There is better out there the two mentioned above and Rahman also looks good and there's coantrao at Madrid .

We have to all as fans stop having this laid back pedestrian view of it will be alright. Yes we could win the leauge with the current crop. I'm all for wenger and it has took him years to build this current team but it's been 10 years and yes there was other factors and he kept us in CL football . We have the coin and I think wenger will spend it. But please let's all get real on who's good enough to put on an arsenal shirt challenging for all honours

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06 Aug 2015 10:51:26
Well his profile pic is jack dee ed

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{Ed025's Note - imagine being stuck in a lift with them two brow.. :)

06 Aug 2015 12:54:43
I don't agree that Monreal is jsut OK, he has been v good for us last season, and you are putting out players like Coantaro, i mean come on get serious who is good and available that was my Question, and even you have come up with limted names. Please do not tell me Cesar Azepchulita is any better than those 2. Even if Gab was in this concept of you don't change a wining team is old, sometimes as we saw the team became drab in the games against swansea and some other game where we dint score, so its all about rotation.

And i hope the transfers were as easy as you are mooting it out, ok you are ready to wear an Arsenal shirt so i buy you seriously? We all can see what is wrong and sometimes 10 years is too long, but this current team we have barring a WC CF is good enough.

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06 Aug 2015 13:33:47
I hope your right mystifier. But come next year I would give you 10/1 that we won't win the leauge if we don't make any further first team additions. I would happily pay you out

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06 Aug 2015 13:50:01
I have that back to front . Don't listen to me mystifier

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06 Aug 2015 21:14:09
Hahaha thts a good one

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06 Aug 2015 22:34:47
Brogun, you think along my lines mate.

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06 Aug 2015 07:07:33
Oh no wilshire again for 2 months i am gutted. I expected a lot from him this season and gabriel tackles him. Hope for a speedy recovery we need all our players fit if we are to challenge

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06 Aug 2015 06:39:23
Such a shame that Wilshere has suffered another ankle fracture. It hightens the need for us to sign a quality defensive midfield player, as Wilshere must play in a more advanced position, where tackling is needed less and he can play 'on his feet'.
We also need a top quality striker. I have heard a strong rumour that it will be Benzema, but I am not convinced he will be a success. I would prefer a player such as Lewandowski.
We still have to clear out Flamini and Campbell. I would have let Arteta go, but that clearly isn't going to happen.
Looking forward to the start of the season....

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06 Aug 2015 09:54:06
Agree with your post. Lewandowski seems more clinical, he's just more deadly. If we have this money we talking about, we should table 45, 50mil, whatever necessary for this guy. Now that's the calibre that would definitely make us challengers. Flamini gone and Wanyama as back up for Coq, or they both play together in some games.

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06 Aug 2015 13:03:48
I think Lewandowski would be a fantastic signing for us. When he was at Dortmund he was prolific, probably a very good goals ratio . He would be my preference for a striker .

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05 Aug 2015 23:12:18
So, Jack was on the end of a Gabriel tackle today and has once again, injured his ankle.
There are some suggestions that it's potentially longer term too.

Not great news.

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06 Aug 2015 00:26:09
Typical

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06 Aug 2015 03:55:10
Same old faces in the treatment room. let's hope its not the start of the epidemic. As soon as the season starts the queue to the treatment room grows.

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05 Aug 2015 22:49:09
If it is true that Wilshere is out for months and not days then it is imperative that we purchase another centre midfielder before the window shuts.

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06 Aug 2015 00:26:48
Charlie Austin?

Just saying.

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06 Aug 2015 00:58:52
Nothing has really changed. Coquelin, Ramsey, Cazorla, Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini - only the DM position needs backing up, not CM.

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06 Aug 2015 13:23:32
Flamini and arteta are rubbish both need selling rather play a youngster there

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