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01 Jun 2014 16:20:02
Namgooner, regarding your comment that scousers think Lallana is a better player than Fabregas, Ed01 summed Fabregas up perfectly.

{Ed001's Note - because he has no positional sense or idea of responsibility defensively. So that limits his options in our system to playing the point behind the strikers, as he lacks pace to make up for errors in positioning. He hasn't the skill to glide past players such as Coutinho, Suso and Teixeira. His passing is no better than the latter of those two, it is limited in range and his vision is lacking. There is every reason for the Barca crowd turning on him, they simply see a player who is nowhere near good enough filling a spot in the team. He looked great at Arsenal, where the whole thing was built around him, where he had no responsibility and could just do what he wanted, with lots of forward movement around him and always within a few yards to allow him to pick a pass easily. If that is all we wanted from a player, we could stick any of the younger attacking mids, from Alberto to Suso to Teixeira to Dunn etc there and they could do that. Why waste a lot of money on a player that simply is not that good and is highly over rated? At least the kids will show a willingness to listen to the coaches and show some responsibility.}

1.) This is this horsecrap. I'm afraid I can't be politer than that. Utter horsecrap. Fabregas is world class, anyone who denies that knows nothing about football.

{Ed025's Note - im with you bilbo..

2.) Hang on, I thought this was a joke. So there's genuinely people out there who think Lallana is better than Fabregas?

{Ed025's Note - as silly as it seems paul...it seems there actually are!!..

3.) The idea that Adam lallana is as good as cesc fabregas holder of the most assists in la liga for the past two seasons is crazy. Lallana is good, but is not consistent as any saints fan will tell you. He is a player similar to cazorla, he has good feet and can pass but when he is off his game he is very average

{Ed025's Note - what you have to remember here saint, is that these are liverpool supporters we dealing with here, and in the land of the deluded, the boys from the spion kop are kings..

4.) Arsenal Chelski city utd their all queuing up for Lallana! Oh hang, no it's just Liverpool and spurs.
Seems the others have all fallen for that Barcelona bloke who can't play football, you know the one, he's got a world cup wiiners medal and a couple of Euro ones too

5.) Lallana and Lambert, Saurez absence will hardly be noticed

6.) Well if one of the Eds says so then it must be true. Sometimes there are opinions expressed that are so incorrect it just isn't worth arguing with.

Oh and in my opinion Heskey was better then Fowler! One of the Eds also agrees which basically makes it fact.
Flybo

7.) G62, Ed02 has said Chelsea and Manchester United are both ready to make an offer for Lallana if he becomes available, Flybo, I didn't say it's a fact because Ed01 said it is, I said he summed him up perfectly.

8.) But he didn't. That's my point.
Flybo

9.) 01 Jun 2014 18:48:50
Adam Lallana - 26, Only just broken into England squad. Won nothing.

Fabregas - 27, 1 World cup medal, 2 Euros medals abd countless medals from time at Barcelona. Regular for Spain and top assist maker in a team with Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar and Messi.

You deluded scousers honestly think Lallana is a better footballer?

10.) 01 Jun 2014 18:49:24
Plymouth I know you're a pool fan and probably not aware but Dags does the jokes on this page.

11.) Plymouth we are all entitled to our opinion mate, but I think if you polled the utd and Chelski pages Cesc would come out well on top and neither utd city or Chelski would chose Lallana above Cesc, its a bit like choosing Jack above Inesta few would do it and not qualify for at least some kind of psychiatric help on the NHS
I'd say poll the city page but he's on holiday

12.) 01 Jun 2014 19:04:40
Lol Jen,
love that x

13.) I remember a time whn Liverpool paid 35mil for a certain Caroll. Wasnt tht overrating? If Arsenal built a team around Cesc, thn didn't Barca also built a team around Messi. Does tht also mean Messi ain't also class? Fabregas was used in all position including on th wings. Its like putting Ronaldo at Right back and expecting him to do b there too. Cesc is overlooked because of Xavi & Iniesta but still managed to get more assist thn both of thm. And he lazy, funny.

14.) Kleberson won a world cup, Copa America and a Confederations medal, may you should sign him up eh?

{Ed025's Note - it was a comparison between cesc and AL plymouth, why bring kleberson into it?...you made yourself look a bit of a tit there mate..

15.) I'd pick Luke Chadwick over Gerrard any day of the week, purely because of a League winners medal! Ha!

I'd also welcome back Eboue. conquerer of Real Madrid! LOL!

Cammy Out!

xxx

16.) 01 Jun 2014 20:09:32
Fabregas didn't really contribute to his national team victories. Substitute or false nine appearances in which most games were already won. To use his national team "success" as defense of his club success doesn't really fit. I think he's a good player, but you're being biased to a former captain. No need to get firey fellas

17.) Not really Ed, my point is that just because someone has a world cup medal etc, it doesn't necessarily mean they're a world beater.

{Ed025's Note - but you have to admit PR, that there is a world of difference between cesc and per koldrup mate..

18.) 01 Jun 2014 20:29:09
Plymouth Red. Do you even watch La liga? Or remeber Cesc at Arsenal? Your basing your argument on what Ed001 said. Cesc would be a dream at Liverpool to replace Gerrard. He is definatly better than any other Midfielder you currently have.

Lallana is decent, but £30m? that's steep. You could buy much better with that.

19.) Actually plymouth that's the definition of a world cup winners medal.

20.) TjRed.
Your right. Apart from coming off the bench in the 87th minute and setting up Inesta in 2010 against the Netherlands, but it was only the World cup final.
Spain have had the best squad for many years now, but by your logic if their not in the first 11 then their not all that. If Cesc can only manage the bench, then Lallana wouldn't make the plane.
Flybo

21.) 02 Jun 2014 00:13:05
Flybo, Landon Donovan scored a 93rd minute win to give the states a group win and probably the biggest goal in our history; Andy Carroll gave us a chance in the fa cup final with a late goal. Are they world class now too?

For value, at the same price, a player 2 years younger who has also captained a good team really isn't that different from cesc in value. I don't think he's worth 30 million; neither is cesc. They're both great players. I hope you guys get your signing and I hope we get ours.

22.) 02 Jun 2014 10:23:41
The idea that Adam Lallana is better than Fabregas is ludicrous. It is Plymouth Red spouting his biased Liverpool agenda, nothing more.

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry but you are just so biased it is embarrassing. Clearly none of you know how good Lallana is, you are just up your own arses because he is not an ex-Arsenal player. Fabregas is nowhere near world class or even top class, he is wanted out by Barca because he is not good enough and any idiocy about him struggling because of Xavi is just that, idiocy. Xavi has one leg left and is meant to have regular rest periods, he has had to play more often than Barca wanted because Fabregas hasn't cut it. By the way, getting assists in the Barca team can be as simple as passing it to Messi on the halfway line and standing back and watching him run through the opposition team and scoring, so getting a lot of assists for them is hardly indicative of a quality player. Fabregas is simply a very good player, not world class, not great, lacks defensive responsibility, lacks positional sense, but is a decent quick passer of the ball with good timing of forward runs. Lallana has all that along with an extra level of trickery on the ball. They both lack pace, but Lallana is truly two footed, while Cesc is predominantly right footed. Anyone suggesting Lallana's late arrival on the international stage is related to his ability has no idea what they are talking about. Oh and anyone that will back Ed025's ratings of a player, a man who knows so little he thinks Rooney is some kind of super hero, really should rethink what they know. Neither Cesc nor Lallana are world class, but Lallana, on current form, is the better player. Southampton have been very lucky to keep him, especially when they were in League One. The problem with you lot is that you can't see past the ex-Arsenal thing and haven't seen enough of Lallana.}

23.) What we have seen is several years of Cesc week in week out. I could say, "the trouble with you is you haven't seen enough of Cesc, but that would be very lazy of me.
Flybo

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Not really Ed, my point is that just because someone has a world cup medal etc, it doesn't necessarily mean they're a world beater.

{Ed025's Note - but you have to admit PR, that there is a world of difference between cesc and per koldrup mate..

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Kleberson won a world cup, Copa America and a Confederations medal, may you should sign him up eh?

{Ed025's Note - it was a comparison between cesc and AL plymouth, why bring kleberson into it?...you made yourself look a bit of a tit there mate..

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G62, Ed02 has said Chelsea and Manchester United are both ready to make an offer for Lallana if he becomes available, Flybo, I didn't say it's a fact because Ed01 said it is, I said he summed him up perfectly.

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We have as much chance as you Paul.