01 Nov 2014 02:13:44
I find it odd that Wenger is complaining that there are no tough forwards anymore. He wants tougher players, but has it seems, refused to get one. We are crying out for a mad man in midfield. Someone who isn't afraid to lead and throw a good tackle in. A Roy Keane for example.

Saying that though, a player with both the attitude and ability of him is hard to come by now. Any Players come to mind?

{Ed007's Note - Give up buddy, there will never be another sportsmen never mind footballer who can hold a candle to Roy Keane. If Keane had been English a lot more people would appreciate what he done as a player and he would be looked at as one of the best in world. In his heyday Keane was in the bracket of player that would have improved any team in the world he had played in.
When (not if) the revolution comes and I'm Britain's first President I will knock down Big Ben and replace it with a statue of Roy Keane.
I was a big Viera fan as well btw, I just love those type of players, remember Edgar Davids?}

1.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 08:11:58
unfortunatly the game has moved on since then and I doubt there is a place nowadays for a roy keane,a red card every 4 games sprinkled with a few 5 game bans per season would soon put paid to that

2.) 01 Nov 2014
Great player. But that tackle on haaland was un forgivable.

3.) 01 Nov 2014
If keane was playing in the last five years he would be looking at a red card every 5 games.

alot has changed in the way the game is being played, pace is just one attribute.

can you imagine keane running around trying to get the ball from xavi or iniesta in the champions league final?

those days are gone and while I agree he was a very good player, just like viera was, they added something to an era, but I think people over hype certain players a bit too much.

4.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 10:25:33
Ed007,

I would throw Bryan Robson in the mix as well.

Fantastic player and Captain.

{Ed007's Note - Definitely DG. Robson was my favourite Utd player when I was a pup. His testimonial in 1990 (I was 15/16) was the first time I was allowed to travel down to Old Trafford without my dad as there were plenty of Celtic supporters buses going down. It was round about the same time, I think, that I first visited Highbury for Paul Davids (Davis or Davies??) testimonial and the second was a few years after that for Tony Adams' testimonial. For the Davids one my cousin and his pals had hired a minibus to drive down, I left the house telling my mammy I was going to the football and it wasn't until my dad came in from work she found out the game was in London and he found out I was away to it - that went down well when I got home!
I think I am one of the few people who misses testimonial matches, I know players are paid exorbitant amounts these days and don't need the money but I used to love the the friendly party atmosphere at them and meeting new people. I've been all over England with Celtic for testimonials over the years and have met some great people who I still keep in touch with}

5.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 11:54:05
Roy Keane was and is a wombat

I wish there was a statute of him in Dublin so I could egg it every morning on the way to college

{Ed007's Note - I'm not surprised by that, we all know you Dubliners can't help being jealous of anything that comes from the People's Republic. If you're still at college are you old enough to remember Keane as a player, he retired 8 years ago.}

6.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 16:50:59
Remember it well 007.

1991, we took it easy on you because it
was Paul Davis testimonial, hence the 2-2 lol.

7.) 01 Nov 2014
I'm not from Dublin man, I'm from the Premier. And I'm a phd student Viera vs. Keane were my formative year so I remember him plenty.

In particular I remember him walking out in Saipan. But I also remember his tackle on halaand and I remember what he wrote about it.

I remember meeting him in the Dunlop and telling me to eff-off when I asked for autograph, I remember meeting Niall Quinn 20mins later and getting my picture taken like he took with all the other 12 year olds.

And I remember plenty more player/manager/pundit. It's a pity he wasn't English he'd have no claim to us

{Ed007's Note - That's actually the first time I've ever heard anyone actually admitting they got upset by player's not giving them an autograph, it's usually what we ask people who have a chip on their shoulder about a player 'What's wrong did he not sign your autograph'. Everything else is irrelevant after he broke your heart, your Phd won't even help that heal :( At least he told you to eff-off, he could have just ignored you. Keane's tackle had no bearing on Halaand's injury problems, Keane done him on his right knee, and Halaand had been having problems with his left knee and was wearing it strapped up for months. After Keane's tackle Halland played on and finished the match, he also played in a friendly for Norway that midweek and the following league game with no problems with his right knee (the one Keane caught). During the summer, he had surgery on his left knee, and played 4 substitute appearances the next season before retiring. Halaand had already admitted he had been playing with the injury to his left knee for a few month and he went on to say that Keane's tackle had done it no damage during the game and that Keane did not cause his injury. At least Keane had the minerals to come out and admit what he done rather than try and weasel his way out of it like some players do, or do you think Keane's the only player to ever go looking for revenge?
It was a shocking tackle but the story about how serious it actually was is a fairy-tale kept going by the people in the Irish media that have never liked Keane simply because he wouldn't play their stupid games when he was meant to be playing football, not sorting out tickets for journalist's families. Roy Keane had absolutely nothing to do with the injury that forced Halaand to retire.
What's your opinion on the Arsenal players behaviour at the 2010 World Cup?}

8.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 19:51:40
Honestly I couldn't care less that I didn't get his sig, even at the time because I didn't like that he played for United. I mentioned it to highlight the type of person he is, that he couldn't give a child that idolises the jersey he wears(Ireland) a simple token. And yet Niall Quinn could.

It doesn't matter whether he ended halaand career, what matters is that he had the intent to do real harm to. And then in his book -"the ball was there (i think)" that's not admitting it that's mocking it. Plenty of players go out for revenge. And they about it by outplaying the other man by no uncertain terms, embarrassing them with sheer ability. Why couldn't Keane do that? Because by his own admission he's driven by hate. That's some quality in a human being.

I think anyone involved in 2010 should be disgusted by they're own actions. Arsenal players or not.

And how much do you really know about the Irish media? Starting to think Keane would be right at home in Scotland

{Ed007's Note - You obviously do care or you wouldn't mention it, it's nothing but petty and immature otherwise. As for the Irish media, like everything else, I'll know a hell of a lot more about it than you. I've probably forgotten more than you know, sorry I'll rephrase that, I have forgotten more than you know. So what do you know about Scotland because you sound as if you'd be right at home at Ibrox.}

9.) 01 Nov 2014
01 Nov 2014 20:49:05
So rather than tell me what you know about it you make a self aggrandising statement?

I only mention it to highlight the difference between a model professional/all around nice guy and Roy Keane.

But then again you know more than me so maybe I am emotionally scarred. Thanks Dr. Phil.

You'd be the man to get me box tickets i'm sure

10.) 02 Nov 2014
@ED007, I do ed although I admittedly didn't see him play all that much. If you're looking for a testimonial, Considine has one for Aberdeen soon! I've hardly been on the (Celtic) site recently, how's?Maloy?, I can't recall the name, but the poster who had a heart attack earlier this year doing?

{Ed007's Note - Timalloy's doing fine mate, I'll pass on your good wishes, he is back posting but not as regular until his health improves some more. I didn't know Considene was getting a testimonial but there's no way I could travel up to Aberdeen on crutches, it's hard enough getting to Celtic or Accies games as it is lol}

11.) 02 Nov 2014
That's good news then! Ah, no way, what happened to you? I'll be in London during it anyway, but I don't think I'll be missing out!

{Ed007's Note - I had an accident 15 years ago, around 7 tonnes of steel H beams fell on me, and fractured my leg in 6/7/8??? places and shattered my ankle. I had to get plates and pins in my leg and a 'bionic' ankle fitted. I was back working and then about 5 years ago all the metal work became infected and had to be taken out, I've been on crutches ever since and had another 5 operations, not counting keyhole surgery, as well. About 3/4 years ago it became so badly infected they were saying I might lose my foot, one of the ops was to physically stretch my achilles by I think it was 5 inches, I've got some lovely pics if you're interested lol.
I have an interior ankle impingement and some other problems but I don't think it'll get any better soon. I had to give up everything, my Celtic ST, playing football and golf even doing some weights and training in the house. I still try to get to as many games as possible but it's difficult myself and I can't expect mates to give up their pre and post match pi$$ up to babysit me, plus I get very self-conciuous being outside on crutches so I don't really go out much at all - probably why I tend to ramble on on the sites. Gee that sounds so depressing when I read that back lol, sorry.}

12.) 02 Nov 2014
Ed007, I love a gory picture ed! That's absolutely devastating, I thought you meant you picked up a little knock or something. Thanks for sharing that though.

{Ed007's Note - I've posted some onto the Arsenal Dodgy Sightings paste so Ed033 will get them up at some point, they are a couple of the less gory/funky looking ones so keep an eye out for them lol I'm not the type who sits around moping and complaining their lot, I know there's folk out there in far worse situations than me.}