Arsenal Rumours Archive April 18 2012

 

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18 Apr 2012 17:17:34
i dont think we need mvila at all,we have enuf players that can play that role, maybe a top class winger and move wallcot into the middle would be a good idea
big dickey

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I think we should sell Walcott

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Watch song play closely and see how much we need a good cdm. Dont think we need a winger. If we start Ox on right and Podolski on the left...sell walcott

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Can't have enough depth with quality

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We are way too fickle as Arsenal fans, Walcott has been playing well recently and then had one bad game against Wigan and then everyone is rushing to have him sold. I think he is a great player, definitely still developing and causes massive problems for defence. Sell Walcott but keep Gervinho? I dont think so..

W12Gooner

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We need m'vila, he's a good player, solid and with a good positional sense!! must have but prob gunna go for hernanes from Lazio

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Walcotts poor performance was due to wigans tactics. they played 3 vs 2 on our right hand side, he and sagna never had any room to produce.

CB

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18 Apr 2012 10:33:37
Vertoghen (lb,cb, cdm) nearly done?
Podolski (lw,cf) seemingly done
Biglia (cdm) 10-12m
adler (gk) free
Martin (acm) 10-15m

If fit for next season, play song and Wilshere as cdm, move wilshere up to acm, OX and Podolski on the wings, leave walcott on the bench, not consistent enough for me, bring in Vertoghen to lb to create probably the strongest defence in the EPL

Hopefully get a work permit for Campbell, this kid i reckon is gonna be great.

With this i reckon the defence is quality, with backups of gibbs and jenks for full backs, mert and jd/bartley at cb

Midfield of song wilshere and arteta, enough said

Front three of Ox, Rvp, and Podolski, enought o frighten any team,

so
Shezza
Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Vertoghen
Song Wilshere Arteta
Ox Rvp Podolski

Subs
Adler, JD, Mert, Martin, Walcott, Biglia, Campbell (W/p allowing)


Try to offload the " deadwood", has to be someone that wants them lol

N. Wales gunner

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I'm from Belgium,

First of all I don't think that Vertonghen will play at left back, he isn't that fast and not a attacking drive, though he likes to go forward when he plays in at center back and take a shot, but in the Belgian national team he had to play at leftback and though he does an excellent defensive job (better than any other of the belgian LB's) it's not his natural position, it's a bit like playing Vermaelen there.

Secondly I really hope we don't buy Biglia he slows the game down a lot (something Suarez, who I don't really like either doesn't do) and doesn't like to chase back when Anderlecht are defending, something a CDM is suppose to do. He would be cheap though.

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From what i read biglia was a pretty solid defensive midfielder, i put him in there for that reason and because of the price, may have to re think that one lol

N. Wales gunner

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You should really watch Belgian football mate, the pace in these games is so low, he is a great CDM for the Belgian competition, but this is Arsenal we're talking about not the Belgian competition. It's like me saying something about a player playing in the Danish Competition, I don't know the level of the Danish competition.

Seriously if you get the chance watch some Anderlecht games, and not only the European ones, because I have to admit in the Europa League they were marvelous.

BTW Lukaku was considerd to be the best player walking around in the Belgian competition, he's a Belgian international and he can't even get on the Chelsea bench, that tells you the story really.

And ok if you check youtube, you'll probably find a lot of vids about Biglia, but these are highlight reels.

Belgian Gooner 85

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We only have one wilshere, so being able to play him at cdm and cam is pretty unlikely!

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This side still looks short of one big name to me.

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Can't understand why everyone keeps choosing Vertoghen.
Forget him and go and sign Baines.

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Baines would be twice the price and unlikely to come. Would Wenger and the Board be willing to spend 15M on a left back who can only play 1 position and is 28...Unlikely. And as good as Baines is, Wenger rates Gibbs very highly as well.

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Vertonghen won't be much cheaper than Baines... He's the Ajax captain and their best player...

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18 Apr 2012 09:19:42
Posting a lot of questions recently, mainly because I like to see if my fellow gooners agree, or if I'm just crazy, so here's my latest one:

With all our talk of midfielders, be it cdm or cam, what's the feeling on Dzagoev of CSKA Moscow?

He's a player I've liked for a whole, and I think we've been linked before, if I remember his contract is running down and either expires the end of Russia's current season, or next season, so we might be able to get him free, but If not at least on the cheap.

For those who aren't familiar, he's not the quickest midfielder, but he's a great dribbler and isn't afraid to shoot, he's considered a great prospect in Russia, and if I remember right I read a article dating that he's considered to be Russia's next big player, along with Giorgiy Schennikov from CSKA too and Zhano Anaziade from spartak, whose Georgian.
He can play on the wing (always a danger if you play for us you'll end up there anyway) but he's most effective in central midfield, usually playing just behind a striker, but not as a striker, he's around 5"10-5"11 so he'd add a little height to our midfield, he's also good at taking free kicks (not RVP good though)

All in all I'd say he's either on a free or if it is next season his contracts up, he'd probably be around £12-15m

Cheers guys
D {Ed002's Note - Dzagoev has interested Chelsea in the past but Arsenal have shown a lot of interest this past year including sending a contingent to watch him play in Moscow back last summer.}

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Ahh, see I didn't know we'd sent scouts again this season, I though it was only last, cheers ed

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I hope that if he were to come to Arsenal that he'd play consistently at a high level, because the big Russian names (Arshavin, Pavlyuchenko, Zhirkov, Jo, Elano) have all failed at English topsides, apart maybe from Arshavin, who played 1,5 season at a high level, but who has also lost it by now and Skrtel and Ivanovic.

Beelgian Gooner 85

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Hmm, I think pav wasn't given a fair shot by spuds, when he did play he scored more often than not.

But I see what your saying, zhirkov came over here labelled the Russian ronaldinho, but turned out to be a bit of a flop, I think Dzagoev has youth on his side, so he could adapt.

D

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18 Apr 2012 07:24:49
Please be realistic, come on selling 10 players and buying 10 just isn't going to happen.

I would want to see the dead wood move away as much as anyone, but Wenger won't sell half of the squad, not going to happen, no chance.

I see six maybe seven players leaving and three or four coming in, that's realistic.

Among the players going I see Vela, Bendtner, Denilson, Arshavin and Park, those coming in we're pretty sure of are Poldi and Vertonghen.

Belgian Gooner 85

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1) Nothing wrong with selling 10 players, everyone knows it needs to happen. 2) I doubt we'll sell Park.

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Selling 10 players is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN but to sell 7 is perfectly fine.
Almunia will go on a free, flappy will go, mannone will get promoted or go, thats 3 players and they arent even gonna get 1mil between them. Squid will go home, bartley will be sold to rangers on a permanent move (which he wants i think), vela will stay in spain (which he wants) chamack will goto bordeux (which he wants but doesnt know it yet) arshavin will stay at zenit (i hope)
Bendtner to stay with sunderland or go elsewhere (100% sure) beny to return to chelsea and then get a deal somewhere else (maybe us? I dont know...wenger brought him in as a panic)

whats that, 9 players? not even including players that people want to see leave like djourou and diaby and park (not his fault) - and what about denilson, isnt he only on loan ?

There are SO many arsenal players that dont even come into consideration for our first team, that it would be absolutely criminal not to let them further their careers elsewhere.

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Still need a squad people ur missing the point

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18 Apr 2012 01:33:29
Arsenal (ins)
Poldolski £10mill-90k done deal
Vertonghen £8mil-50k(ajax value him at 10mill euro)
Eriksen £16mill-50k(ajax value him at 20mill euro)
Hazard £23mill + add ons+ park-80k(lille want 30mill euro plus)
Mvila £15mill-60k(rennes rejected a 15mill euro bid from us last year,£15mil is about 19mill euro)
Gk-£3mill-50k

Total £74mill + £380k per week(£20million per year)
Total inc wages £94million
Outs:

Arshavin £7mill-80k
Chamakh £5mill-60k
Bendtner £7mill-52k
Vela £7mill-50k
Denilson £2mil-50k
Squillachi £1mil-40k
Park- p/e-40k
Diaby £3mill-60k
Djouru £4mill-50k
Benayoun -loan end

total= £36million+ 482k per week (25million per year
total inc wages= £61million

£94-61= £33million- Miss Arsenal said we have over £60million in the transfer account,

£33mill minus wages and bonuses(rvp,walcott,song) will still leave us with a profit of about 10-15mil

its not fantasy but probable, this is the last year we can spend 'big' before the FFP rules

Arsenal 2012/13

shezza
Sagna Kos Verm Santos
Mvila
Wilshere Eriksen
Hazard Podolski
RVP

Subs:Mertz,vertonghen,gervinho,song,arteta,gibbs,GK,campbell,miyachi,rosicky,jenks,coqelin,ramsey


Mr Jay

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Walcott? Oxlade-chamberlain? Never happen. Eriksen or hazard in my opinion. Buying both merely limits chances or miyiachi and chamberlain. Really only need a decent AM anyway

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Where's Walcott in this highly probable squad, you haven't sold him or picked him or even on the bench. Wasting a bit of money there I think.
Think i'll go for gibbs and over santos
Santos seriously cannot defend
Can only see 2 out and out forwards in the squad and one as well.
squad.

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Hazard was 30million a year ago when there was less clubs interested in him. If the media are correct he's got us, Man u, city, spurs, Chelsea, PSG, Real and Barca all interested him now.

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How many subs do you want?

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This is a pure football manager post...

Firstly, for all of those players screaming for a clear out - please note that wenger did clear out a lot last year if you include the loans (it wasn't a very active market for anyone until the end).

Bendtner
Denilson
Traore
Vela
Arshavin
Eboue

These players are effectively gone. Now for this summer, we can expect a few more out:

Alumnia
Fabianski
Squillaci
Yossi
Chamakh
Park(?)

For the 4 players going out, we can expect 4 coming in. Wenger will first assess who he can promote from within:

Mannone
Martinez
Campbell

Afterwhich, he will add accordingly. If you look at our system, we have a lot of versitile players. But the area we are weakest is probably CF and LF. Hence the purchase of Podolski who can be deployed as either.

Next Wenger will look at his CAM position. For all those thinking Wenger has blind faith in Diaby, please have some common sense. Obviously Wenger is not going to tell the media he thinks he is a crock - do you sell a car by telling everyone it is piece of cr@p?

That is not to say he won't be patient until the pre-season. However, Wenger is clearly looking for a CAM that can also play wide left in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1.

I think the short list definitely includes Hazard, Belhanda, Ayew, Afellay(loan).

Billybob

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Come on Vertonghen for 8 and Eriksen for 12? Surely you are dreaming? Ajax is playing CL next year... They won't give their best players away for tipmoney... Remember how much they got for Babel (who was mediocre at best) and Suarez (who has skills, but is a bad apple)?

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Vela and djourou on 50k....really?

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I think you may be forgetting the OX.

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