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05 Aug 2021 10:56:55
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05 Aug 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th August 2021

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04 Aug 2021 19:06:40
I am optimistic for the coming season. We have a great bunch of talented young players,2 or 3 of them yet to make their mark. The big question or doubt for me is Auba, whether he will start scoring goals again.

The problem or downside if you like are the problem is the 3 other big wage earners, Willian, Lacca and Xhaxa. In my opinion I would take Romas offer whatever it was because a couple of good games in the Euros is not a reason to ignore the rubbish he has served up in the past.

Lacca, I just see him contributing zilch. As for Willian a stupid stupid signing.

That apart as I said earlier I am confident going into the season and has I already stated nothing less than top 3 . This might seem like dreaming to some people but the squad is not that far away.

As for Arteta I would just like to quote what 62 said in a earlier post. Sometimes it's not the car it's the driver that is the problem.

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04 Aug 2021 19:36:48
Tbh Bill i would prefer Laca over Pea, think he offers a lot more down the middle 🤷🏼‍♂️ But there is no shifting Pea now.

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04 Aug 2021 20:50:36
Hi Bill, I genuinely feel the car was much better than some of the 6 cars that finish ahead of it last season and for me there lays the problem.

Mikel struggles with personalies and does better with young players who don't ask questions or have opinions but just want to play at the highest level asap, the problem Mikel has there is the young players will mature, start to ask questions and have opinions of thier own after a couple of seasons at top level, which leaves Mikel and us back at square one.

Hopefully he will prove me wrong this season but I genuinely think he's out of his depth, I have been known to be wrong in the past of course 😎😎😎.

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04 Aug 2021 21:28:06
That and you need strong leaders and personalities to win. That means Arteta won’t want them or can’t manage them. So how do we progress as a club. That is only a smallish % of the issues I have with Arteta but a key one.

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04 Aug 2021 21:46:19
In Artetas plus box he has undoubtedly made us more difficult to score against and he has given youth a chance to flourish but unfortunately much of his defensive improvement is undone by his obsession with the players he has playing out from the back leading to very preventable goals being conceded.

I wonder how much difference it would make if Mikel could comprise at least for now by putting his ideals on hold and concentrating on what his current squad does best for now.

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04 Aug 2021 18:57:50
Fans Choice

So I'm not expecting these to be who we sign, but for a bit of fun, who would you prefer (you can add a why if you like too) .

Aouar or Maddison.

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04 Aug 2021 19:38:50
Maddison for me, not seen enough of Aouar to believe he can improve our midfield. I think i'd Maddison does come we mat switch to the 433

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04 Aug 2021 19:40:41
Ordinarily I would choose Maddison, because he is English, and I am biased, but also until he got injured last season, he looked superb. However, with ESR, do we need another number 10? Could we play both Maddison and ESR in the same team? If yes then 100%, if no, then no thanks. Willock has shown young players improve when playing in the first XI, and not when on the bench or in the reserves. I don’t want another player coming in who will shove ESR into the reserves, as he needs to play. I know absolutely nothing about Aoure, but if he would play in CM alongside Partey, then yes please, but if he is another AM/ number 10 who will again affect ESR’s playing time and development, then once again, no thanks.

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04 Aug 2021 19:48:26
Maddison.

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04 Aug 2021 22:15:25
Maddison is an injury prone primadonna with a whopping price tag and apparently a lazy/ bad attitude. Why would anyone want that? Exceptional player but we don't need the baggage that comes with it. 122 days out in the last few seasons and he'd just end up being a constant on our treatment table. For 70m, no thank you.

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04 Aug 2021 22:29:22
I’m with Glenn.

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04 Aug 2021 22:31:29
Delusional gunners fans, you thought you were signing grealish a month ago 😂😂.

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04 Aug 2021 22:34:23
Nobody thought we were signing Grealish. Not a chance.

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04 Aug 2021 22:44:58
We have never thought we were siging Grealish, let's face no one is exactly falling over themselves to sign Grealish.

{Ed014's Note - wouldn’t touch Grealish with a barge pole, another over rated show pony.

Better off being a big fish at a small club like Villa.

As for Maddison I’m with Glenn and Malaga.

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05 Aug 2021 08:51:29
Where do these badgers spring from? Not one person mentioned Grealish.

On topic, I feel Maddison is way too expensive and there's better out there for cheaper.

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05 Aug 2021 10:04:44
Tell me about it Sharpe.

ESR fills that number 10 hole perfectly for me. If we are going to opt for versatile players enabling ESR to play off the left and also rotate in the middle then so be it. Maddison is to much of a risk at the price being asked for.

Jesus we could even get a player like Bernardo Silva for a similar price. Versatile, class player and isn't getting as many minutes as he would like.

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05 Aug 2021 10:54:14
The only one falling over is Grealish and is trailing leg. Most fouled player in epl or diver? Certainly plays for the foul and we would never sign him as he would only go to one of the big boys.

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04 Aug 2021 16:05:54
Afternoon all from a rainy Sheffield. Having just seen what the club have done for Saka regarding the wall of positive messages I think it's a real touch of class from the club. Other teams might argue their youngster is better, ie Foden, Mount, Greenwood to name a few but let's have it real here this kid is a star.

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04 Aug 2021 08:37:59
As Mal says we have until Aug 31 at 11 p. m. BST to make that squad overhaul that we were promised and expected. No reason for me to be super deflated but surely we want to bed in the evolved team and surely we would start to see the team and manager learning from mistakes.

You cannot read to much into preseason - correct and the invincibles may have had a shocker BUT the season before was a great season and the team had an identity, leaders and a strong core. We aren't there today so that statement gives me no comfort.

My hope was a revolution in the squad and backroom staff and a realisation from the manager that he needs help and stronger people around him to make up for his inexperience and man-management. These were exposed last year when big in game decisions needed to be made due to questionable tactics, selection and set up. Preseason should have shown that piece changing.
For me it's the performances and we are still making silly mistakes and lacking a cutting and creative edge . I was looking forward to a more dynamic style of play and the sale of Granit was the catalyst for change and a symbol of wanting change. No different to us "not allowing players to run down contract" or "over pay them so we are stuck with them. " All false dawns.
Am I looking at the negatives - yes because I believed we were about to see a revolution. Is there time to change - yes but we are doing it the hard way and won't be ready for the start of the season.
I don't love or hate Arteta - he annoys me and I don't feel we have given custody of our great club to an appropriate adult. I love my club and only want the best - we gave Wenger to easy a time at the end. I'd rather be watching him manage the team as we greatly underachieved last season and we've never spent so much money while also playing poor football. Wenger was naive and needed to go but I hoped he would be replaced with a decent manager who knew our weaknesses and strengths.
I don't mean to be negative - I just had high hopes and high expectations. Not because of self-entitlement but if we let standards slip - we will struggle longterm. The board seem to be throwing money at wages and signings.
I think we all want the best for the club, I don't want Arteta sacked - I just want a decent manager who can manage big names, plays to the teams strength, addresses weaknesses and plays entertaining football.
It's a banter site - post your opinion. No ones opinion is wrong, even Raver. Don't leave the site as it requires opinions and I love reading opposite opinions.
Hope you all have a great day and hope you keep posting Dave et a. Remember - we suddenly buy what we need and this site changes over night. A goalie, right back and some creative spark changes things for me and I'm still hoping there's an agreement with Granit that he can leave if Roma step up.

COYG.

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04 Aug 2021 09:17:08
Sy, it’s not people’s posts that annoy me, it’s when they repeat themselves 20 times.
How many times do we have to read the same posts about Salina, whites transfer fee, even ozil comes up the odd time.

By all means keep posting, but some of the repetitive posts are starting to pisz me off.

We can’t buy players until we move some on. Come on 14€ million for Granit is bollox, I would rather keep him, but I’m sure he won’t be an Arsenal layer come the end of the window.

The youngsters who have signed new contracts must see something in Mikel and the clubs vision, let’s give arteta a chance.

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04 Aug 2021 09:27:31
19 times Mal

Can’t you count 😘.

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04 Aug 2021 09:29:29
Mal - you haven’t mentioned Arteta, his failure to learn from last seasons mistakes will bite us - like SY I don’t love or hate MA, it’s his stubbornness and blindness that frustrates me.

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04 Aug 2021 10:08:21
Banbury I will be the first one on here calling for his head, come Christmas.

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04 Aug 2021 10:26:12
I know there only pre season games but I don’t see any difference to what we see last season. same problems playing out from the back and the same mistakes being made. we need some midfield goal scorers the players we have are all the same type. xhaka has never been or ever will be good enough and he’s offering him a bee contract what does that say .

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04 Aug 2021 11:54:40
Regarding the preseason, I can't see we can expect much difference with the same players. Leno is not happy with playing out from the back and I remember reading he was more comfortable with the old goalkeeping coach. Its a position that needs maximum confidence otherwise the back line has no confidence either. He is a brilliant shot stopper but is that enough for Arsenal? Onona is being linked again today so who knows. And the Sheffield Utd stopper.
We are being linked with many good players, and I'm pretty sure things will heat up towards the end of the window.
If that goal had been allowed I think 2-2 is a good result against Chelsea. Goal line technology would have ruled in our favour I bet.
Xhaka is marmite and is so polarising. He has it in him (see how he motivated his countrymen at the Euros) but then he let them down by not being able to play in the most important match of the competition! Perhaps he's being offered a new contract to up his value going forwards? The thing is he is a regular in the team - the managers (past and present) seem to have faith in him.
The transfer business is brutal, you might agree a deal and then the player doesn't want to move to that club or the player wants the move but the clubs can't agree a deal, so nothing is easy. A positive is that Kia doesn't seem to be mentioned at the moment :)
I LOVE Arsenal and my gut feeling is that a lot of work is being done to upgrade and move forward in a more competitive direction. It can't be done as quickly as we would all like of course.
We have a core of brilliant young Gunners who love the club and who seem to respect the work Arteta is doing, including Odegaard who has stated he loved working with him.
Let's see what the next 3 weeks brings!
Cant wait to see what Brentford Super Bees are made of :)

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04 Aug 2021 11:54:40
Regarding the preseason, I can't see we can expect much difference with the same players. Leno is not happy with playing out from the back and I remember reading he was more comfortable with the old goalkeeping coach. Its a position that needs maximum confidence otherwise the back line has no confidence either. He is a brilliant shot stopper but is that enough for Arsenal? Onona is being linked again today so who knows. And the Sheffield Utd stopper.
We are being linked with many good players, and I'm pretty sure things will heat up towards the end of the window.
If that goal had been allowed I think 2-2 is a good result against Chelsea. Goal line technology would have ruled in our favour I bet.
Xhaka is marmite and is so polarising. He has it in him (see how he motivated his countrymen at the Euros) but then he let them down by not being able to play in the most important match of the competition! Perhaps he's being offered a new contract to up his value going forwards? The thing is he is a regular in the team - the managers (past and present) seem to have faith in him.
The transfer business is brutal, you might agree a deal and then the player doesn't want to move to that club or the player wants the move but the clubs can't agree a deal, so nothing is easy. A positive is that Kia doesn't seem to be mentioned at the moment :)
I LOVE Arsenal and my gut feeling is that a lot of work is being done to upgrade and move forward in a more competitive direction. It can't be done as quickly as we would all like of course.
We have a core of brilliant young Gunners who love the club and who seem to respect the work Arteta is doing, including Odegaard who has stated he loved working with him.
Let's see what the next 3 weeks brings!
Cant wait to see what Brentford Super Bees are made of :)

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04 Aug 2021 12:10:46
Great post sally.

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04 Aug 2021 12:21:48
So good it was posted twice Malaga haha.

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04 Aug 2021 13:17:04
Good post Sally but I will mention Xhaka, international football suits him as it’s slower, he can’t react or think quick enough in the PL. Xhaka is clearly over valued by the club or we would have sold him . It’s only Xhaka’s back pocket that benefits from a new contract.

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04 Aug 2021 13:27:40
Mal- how many times did we have to read you slating Arsenals greatest ever manager mate?
It’s all opinions fella, it’s just hard to get upbeat the season ahead when your team just had there worst season ever and yet we look exactly the same going into this season.

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04 Aug 2021 13:58:49
Je, Wenger was good up until 2005 and then for 13 years he was terrible
Wenger was very lucky to inherit a core of George Graham players and with the massive support of David Dein was able to develop a team. Tony Adams was able to install the arsenal way of doing things to the likes of Paddy and petite. A massive shout has to go out to David Dein
Dein brought in Sol Campbell

Yes he was a good manager but did we hit heights that we should off?

For 13 years we was stale, predictable and a push over, was that a sign of a world class manager?

I will say it one last time, I do not support Wenger, Emery or arteta, I support The Arsenal

I will support arteta until Christmas and that’s it.

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04 Aug 2021 18:11:59
Good posts from both Sally and SY.

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04 Aug 2021 18:51:09
That’s the festive spirit Mal lol

I’d wager he’s gone by the end of October if he doesn’t change tactics.

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04 Aug 2021 18:57:05
If he’s gone Banbury then so be it.

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04 Aug 2021 19:12:36
I think we’ve got a group of very good players but the wrong man leading the team.

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04 Aug 2021 19:44:41
Banbury that has been the story for the last 16 years.

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04 Aug 2021 20:37:11
Out of interest what is the main thing that Arteta has got wrong in people's opinions? Many things have been mentioned,

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04 Aug 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 4th August 2021

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03 Aug 2021 22:12:27
I’ve seen and read enough to realise we are looking at a high position of 7th .

{Ed014's Note - it’s always nice at season start to hope for positive things to happen and for the season to be a belter.

Yet here we are, moved no one on, talk of Xhaka getting a new contract, £50 million on Ben White whilst Saliba fannies about in Marseille, giving mindless goals away from defensive errors playing out from the back in pre season.

No sight or sign of the midfielders we need, Arteta still talking bollocks and what is it with him falling out with every f****r!

7th might be pushing it!

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03 Aug 2021 22:27:19
The negativity on here is ridiculous.

{Ed014's Note - I’ll remove mine, it’s really no problem.

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03 Aug 2021 22:27:20
I think you’re both wrong

We will be the surprise package this season.

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03 Aug 2021 22:44:42
I don't think the car was that bad last season I just think it was driven really poorly, and despite any additions we have or might make i don't think the driver has learned anything or is willing to change.

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03 Aug 2021 23:16:42
16 I’m being positive with 7th place - I’ve seen absolutely nothing to convince me we are going any higher ……. have you?

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03 Aug 2021 23:17:40
And that’s the issue 62 mate, MA is a stubborn you know what, he seems to have learned nothing.

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04 Aug 2021 02:19:45
I can't listen to the negative rubbish any more, see you at the end of the season.

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04 Aug 2021 07:23:59
I get the whole glass half full n all that but let’s be honest we look nowhere near challenging for top 4 let alone the title.
If your happy with mediocrity then this seasons gunna be a belter for ya! I’m not, I want Arsenal to be a team to be feared again n with what this summers provided us all I’m saying is it doesn’t fill me with hope.

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04 Aug 2021 08:07:34
It takes time tho jegooner. We're not going to be feared within a season. And Oxfordshire yes I have seen signs that we will finish higher than 7th. The form for the last half of the season. The young players growing each season. Improving the defence which will allow us to play more attacking football (I hope! )

I get there's reasons to be negative but its not even began guys. Stop being such downers 😂.

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04 Aug 2021 10:20:20
Ofcourse D16 I don’t expect us to be champions overnight but for the money we’ve spent since Wenger left is huge. Liverpool were in a similar position before loop took over, it took him a year of reconstruction n now look at them mate.
Why shouldn’t we expect the same? 🤷🏼‍♂️
Like sy4 said, I had high hopes for this season thinkin we’d kick on n look a real team that’s progressing well.

Something needs to change and change quick.

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04 Aug 2021 10:41:30
People on here can’t stand the negativity…😂😂😂
Your like broken records the lot of you for years now, and want us to be positive after witnessing decline for years culminate in that finishing positing last season and going from no CL football to now no European football.
Your as big a problem as the owners because you are enablers all of you.
One of you please tell me, where you garner this positivity from based on the signing of two absolute unproven prospects, one of whom can barely be regarded as first choice LB at Benfica and the other comes from the Belgian League. We’ve signed Ben White who has had ONE SEASON in the PL and without doubt is a massive risk at the price.
How you can begin to think this nearly addresses the glaring issues that seen us finish where we did last season?
Negativity is no good for anyone. Bring realistic, however, is because it encourages debate and freedom of expression…But damn the only thing worse than real negativity is utter stupidity masquerading as ‘positivity’ and then having the neck to lecture everybody else.
And just like all these years gone by once the rubbish inevitably hits the fan none of you will be seen on here for dust until it’s time again preseason to lecture us all once more.
Laughable.

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04 Aug 2021 11:21:49
Hi Shambo yours was an interesting post and did make me think. I am an enabler perhaps but as I said last season only until Christmas as MA has had enough time by then. My positivity comes from Tierney, White Gabriel Partey Saka ESR Martinelli Pepe all on long contracts and 80% of first team. The three positions missing are RB G and ACM which I`m fed up of reading every day we are in for. We may have a great car but as 62 says the driver maybe rubbish. I`m prepared to give until Christmas and the positive thing is if/ once MA goes he has left a decent set of players or am I mistaken in that? COYG By the way you talk total bollox in assuming anyone positive is stupid.

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03 Aug 2021 23:23:13
Don't go anywhere Ed014 mate, we really need your voice of reason and personal opinion mate.

Those posters who feel positive should feel free to post thier feelings freely but equally are those posters who don't feel the same on every issue not free also?

Respect is or should be a two way Street.

{Ed014's Note - mate if there’s one thing I’ll never do it’s pretend there is nothing wrong when there clearly is.

I just won’t voice the obvious any longer.

I have no problem with posters being as positive as they like, it’s a feel good factor.

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04 Aug 2021 11:57:24
Ed, you know me well, I just like to have a moan and a wind up, it’s all Banburys fault

No offence mate, you’re good man and I love the way you give the mancs crap.

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04 Aug 2021 12:33:48
I think I was a bit frustrated flicking through and seeing so much negativity. That being said everyone is entitled to their opinion so apologies for the first post! Ed014 complain all you like don't let someone like me make you stop posting 😂.

{Ed014's Note - I will only now be taking the rip and you are top of my list! 😉😂

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04 Aug 2021 12:46:28
Sussex that seemed respectful right up until the end sentence there!
At no point did I label all positive people stupid.
I said it’s insulting for people acting stupid or wilfully ignoring glaringly obvious truths to assume we should all adopt positivity for the sake of positivity when it comes to this topic, especially when the recent past is right their under your nose.
You may see not being sat in 15th this November as call for positivity or optimism. If that’s the case I’ll board that ship with you.
However if we are talking finishing even one place above last year, I really think you need to temper your expectations because as has been said to death, there is no indication as to why that should materialise.
The argument for the second half of the season is nullified on its face by the fact the first half of the season also occurred. You can’t promote one and ignore the others very existence because on average your argument has the capacity to go either way.
You won’t meet a more optimistic Arsenal fan when it comes to youth progressing or someone like Pepe growing at this level, but we have as much chance of finishing 10th or 12th as we have making 5/ 6th based on your theory of halving last season.
Just a thought 🤷🏼‍♂️.

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04 Aug 2021 18:52:04
Bunch of negative Nelly's. Top 4 this season lads!

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04 Aug 2021 13:44:27
Shambo it`s like leave or remain, Tory or Labour, God or no God all no right answers and lots of people having each opinion.

I would never dream of telling people to be positive if they don`t think that but try and put forward why I am positive. Maybe I miread / misunderstood your post or that anyone who has an opposite stance is stupid - which is wrong and if I did I apologise.

Always been the same at Arsenal I remember the North Bank being divided over Charlie Nick, similar to Ozil! We can never agree on how to get there but we all want the same thing and as someone said be respectful on both sides - a bit choice coming from someone who said you talked bollox - for which I apologise.

Remember we could be Spuds and a lifetime of misery! I will repeat myself for the 21st time with our youngsters plus Bissouma and Aouar ( gone quiet ) and coming round to replacing Leno we have plenty to be optimistic about.

What we write on here is what we already know and think . It is reading others opinions that has the ability to change our own unless it`s complete bollox of course Haha COYG.

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05 Aug 2021 10:34:04
I’m feelin you Sussex.
Just can’t find the energy to give this club or manager anymore of my optimism as things are right now.
It’s 8 days to our first game.
Right now our starting 11 is
Leno
Chambers
White
Mari
Tierney
Elneny
Xhaka
Smith Rowe
Pepe
Aubameyang
Saka.
I think that speaks for itself as to how hard this club are actually really trying to turn things around. Their selling false hope, like every other season. I’m ready to take a back step and stop investing so much time in Arsenal.

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03 Aug 2021 17:19:34
Absolutely gutted to hear Xhaka’s on the brink of signing a contract extension : (
This club is hopeless
We buy a young defender with great potential for a lot of money (Saliba £30m) and treat him like trash by sending him here there n everywhere on loan before even giving him a chance at the club he signed for. His values decreased because of these actions taken by Arteta and the club but yet they can’t swallow a bid £5m less than the asking price for Xhaka, even though we’re desperate to get players of the books. Now he’s signing a contract extension n we'll be stuck with the backwards/ sideways passing clown for a few more seasons.

Arteta is not filling me with confidence for the season ahead that’s fo sure! At least we’ll be back in the stadium soon so let the voices be heard!

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03 Aug 2021 17:42:02
I agree, xhaka has been the stalwart of our absence from the top 4. Let him go for free if we must just let him go.

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03 Aug 2021 19:04:28
Couldn't agree more, not even the goals of Auba, the record shattering fee of Pepe or the brilliance of last seasons fab 4 has been enough to overcome the Xhaka effect 😀😎😊😆

If he stays, he stays and we have little choice but to accept that is the way of it.

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03 Aug 2021 19:34:52
Well, Xhaka was a major contributing factor to the last two managers losing their job. Obviously Arteta either thinks he is better than those managers, or he fancies being out of work for Christmas. You have been warned.

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03 Aug 2021 20:12:15
The two big consistencies all 3 managers share are their refusal to change what consistently continues to fails and of course Xhaka, Epping mate.
We must make sure our next manager whenever he comes is capable of adapting to what is rather than totally set in his ways regardless of anything.

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03 Aug 2021 20:33:05
So we sell the wrong keeper, add a 50m centre back that we really didn’t need, sign cover for left back and a young midfielder who will now only get a game if a partey or a Granit are out. What a deflating time we are in.

Then that we haven’t really added any spark upfront and although not great players - we don’t replace Ode or Dani.

The club is a joke and the quicker we replace the hierarchy and manager the better.

Still got Willian, Bellerin, Elneny, Laca, Cedric, AMN, Willock, Reiss and now no doubt offer Granit a contract that means we are stuck with him. Has Kola gone?

Will our team actually be any different to the team from last season? Will we still force the team to play out from the back, play painfully slow football, players out of position, favouritism and not playing to our most expensive players strength.

Arteta - come on man.

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03 Aug 2021 21:38:04
Love this post. Encapsulates how this team makes you feel defeated. I'm with you on this SY mate. Unfortunately with our current owners and the general approach of our football club, I see us finishing top 6 and that keeping Arteta in his job.

It's hard to understand if we are on the same path as klopps 4 year build at Liverpool or in a car with no air bags, failed breaks heading towards a dead end at full speed.

Time will tell.

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03 Aug 2021 21:39:00
Whinge, whinge and whinge

Get a grip.

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03 Aug 2021 21:51:58
Evening Mary 👜👜👜.

{Ed014's Note - is that Mary Hinge you’re talking too! 😉🤣😂

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03 Aug 2021 22:05:57
Truth hurts Mal doesn’t it lol

Good post from SY.

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03 Aug 2021 22:06:35
That's him Ed014 mate 😀😁😂.

{Ed014's Note - I thought so! 😂😂

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03 Aug 2021 22:16:57
Banbury we have a lot to be thankful for

We are still alive and kicking and the raver is still taking bollox

There’s only so many negative posts I can take before I start smoking again.

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03 Aug 2021 22:54:26
I'm with you 100% there Mary, we all have so much to be grateful for mate.
Football is a distraction from the really important things in life.

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03 Aug 2021 23:00:35
Exactly Vicky, the window is open for another month

Why should we give players away for nothing

Let’s see what happens and give Mikel till Christmas.

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03 Aug 2021 23:01:09
Mal I’m not having you say all they do is “ whinge” it’s not true they also moan a lot as well 🤣.

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04 Aug 2021 00:15:15
Disclaimer, I'm not a big fan of Xhaka, but here's some perspective.
Last season, Xhaka had the highest number of passes into the final third in the entire league. He finished 5th in the league in terms of progressive passes and a couple seasons before that he was 1st. When he's on the pitch, Arsenal score more goals than they concede.

Is he a great player? No. Makes too many high profile mistakes and can't tackle without a yellow card attached to save his life. But let's not pretend that he is some villain standing in the way of our top 4 finish. The problems at Arsenal run a lot deeper.

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