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20 Oct 2021 21:31:41
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20 Oct 2021 18:23:13
I have to say I agree with Ed1 in respect of football pundits. In my opinion they fall into 2 categories
1- Stating the bleeding obvious
2-talking absolute tosh.
The only one I would remotely listen to is Graeme Souness because he was a very successful player and reasonably successful as a manager.

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20 Oct 2021 19:00:26
Very true - I just enjoyed the rapid fire questions to Henry, Carra and Richards on best opponent, best player ever played with. Was some nice banter rather than the sterile bollox Hargreaves or Owen spouts out on BT sport.

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20 Oct 2021 19:46:33
Obviously there are Pundits we all enjoy and those we find it really difficult to listen to.

I love Wrighty and his heart on sleave open honesty but can not stand listening to Keowens embarrassing drivel, I have to press the mute button when he talks, excellent defender, absolutely awful pundit know my opinion.

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20 Oct 2021 20:44:26
Totally agree 62.
Same as Tony Adams, great great defender but as a pundit sorry Tone.
Schmeichel was another one great keeper but talked a load of embarrassing bollocks.

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20 Oct 2021 21:00:43
I actually like Martin Keown as a pundit, no nonsense or personality, just say what you think. Owen and McManaman on the other hand, should never be allowed to speak in public full stop, let alone be paid to speak on tv. Also why is it that virtually every pundit (except Wright) who played as a forward, suddenly gets obsessed with bad defending. Why do you care about the defending Mr Ahole, you spent your entire career goal hanging and benefiting from that exact bad defending, so how about just enjoying the goal and leave the defending analysis to the ex defender pundits.

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20 Oct 2021 21:14:22
Have to agree again Bill, Tony was Mr Arsenal but I'd rather not hear him talk football, as Portsmouth manager it wasn't difficult to see why they were so bad under Tony's leadership.

I remember everyone, fans pundit and the media being in absolute hestirecs during his very bizarre pre and post match interviews, I used to be caught between feeling sorry for him while at the same time cringing and willing him to stop talking,

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20 Oct 2021 14:55:01
Did anyone watch Henry, Richards and Carragher shine on CBS "in the mixer"

What a genuine lovely piece of TV - fun and in sight into the players and respect for each other.

Love Henry and really interested to see him laying into Arteta for a second time and how disappointed he is with what he sees

Watch the clip - I also love seeing Richards on TV. Be it with Shearer or gogglebox or this clip or Top Gear. The guy is infectious and makes you laugh and smile. I bet he was a joy to have in the dressing room - winner and a genuine chap even if he did play for City 😂

Lovely to see who Henry thought was the best player he player with. Given he's played with top top players at Barcelona and with France.

We love you Henry and we know you will always love our club.

{Ed001's Note - did you just call Richards a winner? This is the man who couldn't be arsed to train, when he did he was last in to the training ground and first out. He was a waster and far from a winner. A lazy arse who stole fans' money for doing nothing for large portions of his career.}

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20 Oct 2021 15:04:45
Ok but did you watch the show - if football is to evolve and connect with fans, this show is a good start.

{Ed001's Note - no, I have no interest in seeing ex-pros talk. I love the sport, I don't care about stuff like this. It is irrelevant garbage on par with 'reality TV'.}

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20 Oct 2021 15:29:27
Fair enough - thanks for the responses Ed 👍.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, you should ask Villa fans about Richards - he took a huge wage while pissing about on the bench for them. Remember him and Lescott arsing about on the bench sending social media posts about cars while the team was losing 6-0?}

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20 Oct 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th October 2021

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19 Oct 2021 22:23:30
So we have a completely new back 4 with a decent price tag. CT is a little injury prone but the diamond in the defensive crown along with Ramsdale. Tomi looks ok but exposed in games so needs time. Gabs and White - not Bold and Adams or Sol and Keown / Kolo. I'm not sold on either if I'm honest and don't understand why we don't sign 1 experienced beast or out and out defender who is strong in the air and commanding along with a strong defensive minded partner who can pick out a pass. We seem to overlook the importance of the art of defending over a decent left foot (Luiz / White) . Both Saliba and Mavropanos seem to be doing well but neither seem to be able to win over Arteta. Mavro is gone and no idea what Saliba did to Mikel. White is coming in for some stick as he's not a commanding determined defender. He seems to sit back, intercept / pick up second ball and distribute. I want a bloody defender who wins headers and can tip the CF on his arse if needed, get stuck in and win the ball. Then give it to midfield to create

Any thoughts on White. I don't think playing Partey on his own helped the two CDs. I blame Mikel for that but they should still deal with the challenge in front of them and boss midfield to set us up right. Jury out on him and I'm ignoring price tag. I judging him as an Arsenal defender.

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19 Oct 2021 23:01:42
I think rating a player on what he does in an Arsenal shirt apposed to how much he cost is the correct way to evaluate a player and pick your team.
Elneny v Partey? Partey plays because of the price tag not his superior performances

Same Pepe and Ode plus Auba plays because of his past record and his wages

It's all done to try and prove the clubs decisions right apposed to doing what's right for the team.

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19 Oct 2021 23:49:21
What are your thoughts on White 62?

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20 Oct 2021 08:04:19
I don't think he's as bad as some have made out SY mate but because of the club spent all that money on him rather than spending it in other areas where people thought it was more needed plus the ridiculous Saliba situation people have aimed there frustration with the clubs decisions at Ben.

He's playing in a pretty bang average team and like most others looks OK but nothing special.

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20 Oct 2021 09:22:14
Probably true - easy to pick faults or highlights depending if you li, e ordislike a player eg Granit. He’s shown some nice touches but not enough to be an Arsenal CD of any standing but plenty time infront of him. He needs developing and if he doesn’t watch football games on TV to learn then it’s all down to who coaches him and who he plays with…. who’s helping him.

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20 Oct 2021 11:13:23
Easy answer to that, bring in Potter and Bissouma, and you will see the true potential of White.

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20 Oct 2021 15:07:27
It does feel strange 62 that we spend 30m and fight for Saliba’s signature to not use him. To then spend 50m on a young CD when we should have signed Bissouma. We could have still signed Lokonga or used that money and may be the Ode money to invest better on the creative front. Hindsight is beautiful but we were saying that at the time….

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20 Oct 2021 17:01:31
I totally understand people's feelings regarding we needed other players more than White SY mate, it's very understandable people should be annoyed at those responsible for making that the Ode and Saliba decisions, I just feel sorry for Ben White having to start his Arsenal career caught in the crossfire.

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20 Oct 2021 18:30:37
Totally agree Epping mate, get Potter now, if he will come that is?
I don't doubt he would be honoured to be considered for the position of The Arsenal manager, but whether he'd want to leave Brighton to work under the current regime is a different matter.

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20 Oct 2021 18:58:23
What about the Brentford manager - would you like him coaching the team?

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19 Oct 2021 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th October 2021

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19 Oct 2021 06:07:09
Awful performance and once again Artetas shortcomings and inexperience are there for all to see. We have to make a decision about Arteta very soon because last night as the same with Brighton we were lucky to come away with a point. I like all us Gooners love to stick it across Spurs, but if it comes to the point where that is the only game where we can lift ourselves then we are in a bad way. I don't want Paddy because his record as a manager is mediocre.
As 62 said Potter is the best choice out there, but I've feeling that Newcastle will be eyeing up as a replacement for Steve Bruce when he goes as he so obviously will.
3 things stood out for me last night was no1 was Artetas inability to change things around. No2 Auba totally disappearing when the going got tough, shouldn't be captain not up for it and never will be. No3 paying 34 mill for Odegaard and sticking him alongside Partey when Lokongo is sitting on the bench, should have played Odegaard cm with ESR and Saka either side, and not played Pepe.
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19 Oct 2021 09:17:53
Hi Bill all the stars are aligned for Rafa Benitez to return to Newcastle in my opinion mate.

He would seem ideal candidate for this early stage of what is going to be a 4 to 7 year project in my opinion.

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19 Oct 2021 09:29:33
That's a good call 62 mate. Benitez would be tempted leaving us to get up the gumption to sack Arteta and bring in Potter who I'm fairly confident would be tempted.

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19 Oct 2021 14:34:28
The BIGGEST thing last night was the difference Lacca made, his link up play with the shrinking striker PEA was there for all to see, we actually looked a threat.

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19 Oct 2021 14:42:10
Hi Bill mate, personally I think Potter would be ideal for us and the job we need doing, organising motivating and getting the best out an already half decent squad before adding the missing ingredients to the current squad.

Newcastle are a very different proposition in that they have loads of money but need to start from almost scratch in order to establish themselves as a club the biggest players would join.
Newcastle fans already love Rafa so for me he ticks all the boxes that are possible to tick at this early stage of what has the potential to be a huge project that will need a fair bit of time to be fully completed.
Give the Newcastle fans a trophy, any trophy at all and he and the new owners will be automatic legends on Tyneside.

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19 Oct 2021 16:23:22
Rafas words make it very hard though, he's going to look like a right untrustworthy pillock if he goes back on them and from the sounds of it keeping his word is important to him:

Benítez was linked with a return to his former club throughout the protracted takeover by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund but has ruled out replacing Steve Bruce if, as expected, the manager exits. The Everton manager admits Newcastle’s interest was broached during talks this summer with Moshiri, who was stung by Carlo Ancelotti’s return to Real Madrid after only 18 months at Goodison, and he assured the billionaire owner there would be no repeat.

“I don’t want to talk too much about that but, just to clarify, it is not an issue, ” Benítez said of the Newcastle takeover. “The people at Newcastle knew already that I was just thinking about staying here and I told our people that they didn’t have to worry about anything because I’m happy here, working as hard as I can here and I gave my word so that is it.

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19 Oct 2021 18:36:21
Hi Eden mate, I hadn't seen Rafa comments and I freely admit my prediction is based 100% on my own personal opinion.
I am happy to concede Benitez is far better placed to know his future plans than I am 😂😁😁😂

Maybe the return return of king Kevin then? 😉.

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19 Oct 2021 19:54:28
Hopefully they stick with Bruce 😉.

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19 Oct 2021 20:25:07
May be they steal Arteta? Is he not good enough for them.

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19 Oct 2021 20:54:39
If both Bruce and arteta were available I wonder who gets more offers?

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19 Oct 2021 21:09:45
I wouldn't think either will be offered another premier league job, my guess is Arteta will go to Spain and Steve Bruce will go to a championship team.

As for Ole, probably Norway national set up somewhere, but I think Bruce will go first shortly followed by Ole and Mikel around January time.

{Ed014's Note - they are equally pathetic at their jobs and should go together hand in hand tonight to never embarrass another club anywhere ever.

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19 Oct 2021 21:48:05
You certainly wouldn't want arteta if you were a team fighting relegation, they would get absolutely slaughtered.

{Ed014's Note - we may be doing that yet 🤣🤣

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19 Oct 2021 22:23:47
Ramsdale to get the honor of 3 relegations in a row?

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19 Oct 2021 22:14:00
For me it's how many days Steve Bruce is left on limbo before he gets the inevitable phone call.

As for Ole how long before United actually get round to doing what they so obviously are going to have do if they ever want to be relevant again

And Mikel, well it's simply a case of how long Arsenal can resist and fight off doing what the world and his dog knows they should have done long ago.
Those running our club are not known for accepting thier mistakes and acting to correct them willingly.

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19 Oct 2021 23:17:44
Interesting point that Eden, if we were to be relegated would Ramsdale next clubs fans judge him on Arsenal's performances or Arsenal Sheffield United and Bournemouth performances.

Ramsdale has been excellent for us but his stats make him look guilty by association, again 🖒.

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18 Oct 2021 22:21:18
Hello gooners,

I was very optimistic after the Tottenham game. Thought we had turned around the corner, but sadly it is nothing but a mirage. We are so inconsistent. One week we seem to be world beaters, then the other week we play like a local pub team.

Why is this? I have a theory. I think it is to do with Arteta's rigid interpretation of positional play. Positional play when it clicks can produce devastating results like how it happened at Barcelona for guardiola, but it needs the right players. It has to be precise and to the tee. Does Arsenal have the players that can play that way? I don't think so.

Arteta's system is so rigid. That is why we don't create so many chances. Our xg is very low. The fact that he is not willing to adapt to the players at his disposal, is a sign that he is not a good coach.

The sooner he goes the better. I don't see us improving.

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19 Oct 2021 13:21:27
The reason we was good against spurs was because they never bothered pressing it tracking back nothing to do with arteta.

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19 Oct 2021 22:34:54
fair point mate, I remember the likes of dele alli and Ndombele just standing around doing nothing.

{Ed014's Note - even Nuno admitted his tactics/plan was woeful

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18 Oct 2021 22:19:42
Great point tonight Sussex all the best in going 4th on Friday night 🤣😂🤣 there's more chance of the raver having a threesome with Denise van outen and Kelly Brook on the Big Breakfast couch than that happening.

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