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09 Apr 2020 15:49:08
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09 Apr 2020 07:39:02
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08 Apr 2020 21:43:23
Controversial - why should EPL players be forced to takes 30% pay cut. Why are they being criticised and why would everyone want the money just to go back into the club for the owners.
Who are we trying to help here; employees on £35000 per annum will have minimal drop in earnings by beingFurloughed in the short term as long as job in medium term at the club. Sure football will recover unlike some of the SMEs and the high street.

Its a huge hit for workers who earn in excess of 50k which isn't a huge wage down south but furlough will wallop them - are you trying to protect them or the 20k a year worker§? Furloughs are designed to preserve future jobs and stop companies making redundancies which would be crippling for all workers as no jobs. clubs are part of the community and need to figure out how to preserve their long term future, small adjacent business that feed off the club as well as workers. Clearly players have a shelf life and need to maximise earnings for them and their kids etc - why should every single one of them give up 30%. They have short fixed term contracts - what does interest me is, can the club actually do anything to player wages with contractual terms? if a player is going to renegotiate a new contract in a few years -will reducing their wages harm negotiations, are the clubs protecting their most precious assets like a number of businesses. would love to understand more but not sure they deserve criticism in this.

I do believe they have the means to do more for their local communities but does Granit really feel like London is "his" local community given how we treated him and it's not "home. " May be some are doing things but on the quiet.

I think they need to do more but may be they already do a lot. Not sure a 30% blanket pay cut is in the spirit of the world we live and compete in.

Sorry but people jump on epl players so quickly to resolve issues that aren't their fight.

Them taking a 30% pay cut and deprive the tax man of taxes. That far exceeds the amount needed to pay lower level employees at the club but no real benefit to nhs.

May be EPL should set up a voluntary charity that players can donate to and the money can be used for sharing with worthy causes so avoids going to club owners. I'm clearly missing something here so go easy on me.

I know plenty people who have suffered huge life changing drops in income as well as people no longer in employment due to virus plus people Impacted by the virus. I'm not being mean to them or anything like that

From a business perspective - clubs have less revenue so must reduce costs. From a numbers perspective - why aren't clubs reducing pay of their highest earners and furloughing staff that aren't required at present as no revenue. What's stopping them Ed? Is it a players union issue?

{Ed002's Note - There is no intent for it to go in to the owners pockets. It is up to the clubs to work out what they can with the players. The PFA is a major distraction. Actually the PFA are taking cups - except the head - Gordon Taylor. It is not for the EPL to set up a charity.}

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09 Apr 2020 10:17:16
Maybe I am missing your point SY. My issue isn`t with the players but with the clubs owners. Yes they have a responsibility to their employees and if my maths are right Tottenham for example have 550 staff who if furloughed would receive £2500 as a maximum. That is approx £1.4m a Month . Let`s say my maths is wrong and it`s £2m a month a club that earned £72m last year should be able to find £6m over next 3 months. It is the fact i think that football is digging into the Government pot needed elsewhere whilst still paying the huge wages we all know about. It was so refreshing to read the Liverpool page and their frankly anger and being ashamed of their club which ultimately led them to make the right decision. Levy and Ashley are cut I think from a different dirty cloth. I think the players have individual choices to make ie Ozil giving money to Turkey and Xhaka Albania Serbia or Switzerland etc and that is for their conscience. They do have a short career SY but don`t feel too sorry for them! In conclusion it is the brass neck of these owners taking from the Government fund while paying hundreds of thousands a week that sticks in the craw of decent people. Hoping we continue to show our class after end of April COYG.

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08 Apr 2020 19:25:44
Even though he played for the toot, I loved Jimmy on Saint and Greavies
Met him a few times he was a true gent and a good laugh

Come on Jimmy pull through.

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08 Apr 2020 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th April 2020

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07 Apr 2020 07:37:56
Hey all, I hope you're all keeping well and safe.
I habe a question about David Icke, I've been interested in his conspiracy theory on the covid19 just don't know much about him apart from being a footballer.

Any thoughts on him and has he ever been right about stuff before.

{Ed033's Note - We have a conspiracy site where you can fill your boots with alternative info and ask questions. You can't talk about alternative info on here.

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07 Apr 2020 13:18:08
Hi Moe, I remember he was a well known TV personality who suddenly started making very strange claims about himself other people and the world we live in back in the 80s/ 90s.
He claimed the world was going to end back in 1997, which I think says it all really.

{Ed001's Note - he had a nervous breakdown mate. You can't judge him on what he said during it.}

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07 Apr 2020 12:38:02
Sorry ed mate, didn't think about it.

{Ed033's Note - The current top post on the conspiracy site is an interview with David Icke about the anomalies of COVID-19.

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07 Apr 2020 15:43:38
Your 100% right Ed001 mate, I did put that very badly I realised once I read it back that I should have written my post much more sympathetically. I remember feeling sorry for him at the time and thinking how sad it was the world was laughing at him and people were inviting him onto TV shows just to mock him when he was so obviously unwell, very cruel.

Unfortunately not all his current views he shares at his public speaking events are as harmless to others as his earlier claims were, his racist views and claims on historical events which are finding and audience with and making him popular with far right groups are cause for real concern.

I do think it's good for society to remember his earlier claims when considering his current views on important and potentially damaging issue in the world today.

{Ed033's Note - Where do you get these ideas about David Icke from? Have you read any of his books? Have you watched any of his presentations? Have you watched or listened to any of his interviews?

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07 Apr 2020 17:18:33
Hi Ed033 I know he has been banned from Australia for some of his alternative versions of horrific histrionical events shared by the likes of Nick Griffin of the ex BNP who were gaining popularity in local elections until Griffin views were exposed on national television.

I don't mind David Icke claims about the Queen Mandona and Angelina Jolie as none of those involved seem to offended by his strange to say the least claims.
But when it comes to inciting public opinion against any race it's no longer an innocent opinion.

I'd be very happy to see David Icke allowed on live on national TV with regards of his views on historical events where the public can decide for themselves about his views as with they did with Nick Griffin.

As for his views on 5G well let them be publicly debated to once the anti race thing is out in the open one way or the other.

{Ed033's Note - David Icke and "anti race thing" are like chalk and cheese, they don't go together.

How about listening to the interview with David Icke on London Real TV (link is on conspiracy site) about the anomalies of COVID-19 and then debating/talking about it on the conspiracy site?

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07 Apr 2020 17:46:23
Fair comment Ed033 mate.

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08 Apr 2020 21:00:05
Was the interview sponsored by Brewster Dairy?

Interesting listen but he goes way off piste and starts talking crap about half way through.

So the Covid 19 “hoax” has been planned since Caveman Gates predicted the smart tv and autonomous cars while they were still eyeing up what dinosaur to eat for tea. Oh wait- was that an inaccurate fact also.

Think he’s watched too many Hunger games films and Netflix box sets.

Just in what he said there are so many holes that I can even see them. I’m sure there is an element of false reporting of numbers but 5g conspiracies etc I was glued to theTV and it got me thinking but he just seemed like he was having a drunken conversation by the end

He’s logic on ”one person going out 10 times a day not increasing the risk of spreading infection” doesn’t add up.

The idea of letting people return to work with a vaccine would be a godsend to the economy.

Hopefully the interview is screened on bbc and a balanced counter argument can be presented. At worse it will stop another rerun on tv and challenge our thought processes.

Could he have plugged his books any more?

{Ed033's Note - I said on the conspiracy site he shouldn't use the word "hoax" otherwise it opens him up to ridicule, but maybe it was intentional so the BBC can easily ridicule him, and by it getting on the BBC, he knows loads of people will buy his books?

This is why i think he continues with the crazy notion that the royalty are possessed by alien reptile consciousness; it's so the BBC might get him on TV.

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07 Apr 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th April 2020

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06 Apr 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 6th April 2020

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See You Next Quarantine

05 Apr 2020 23:58:25
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, See You Next Quarantine

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