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03 Feb 2020 16:00:03
Hi Ed, it sounds like Arsenal turned down the chance to sell Mesut Ozil despite Mikel backing the move.?
Is that true?
Why didn't it happen and why did they bid at the last minute.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know whether or not MA supported the move but Al Sadd's interest was very late in the day and that likely proved to be the issue. The proposed loan to another side was tentatively agrred before the window opened but also failed for onr reason or another. Arsenal really want him sold and not loaned. They will look to move him on in the summer.}
1.) 03 Feb 2020 20:39:18
Thanks Ed - frustrating an 11th hour offer comes in for a player we need to shift and we can’t close it out. If he’s not in the long term plans, don’t get why we didn’t cash in or why They waited so late to bid for MO10. Sounds like Lemar was an option for us. never mind at least we signed an injured left back and an unproven CD 😂😂
Quality window 😫.
2.) 04 Feb 2020 19:46:13
Or according to other outlets Artetta put a block to the move.
It's a shame we didn't break the bank in January and sign 3 or 4 household names at extortionate pilrices that could have helped us achieve 8th place this season:-) .
I suppose we will just have to settle for 10th place and use this season for Arteta to find out who he can and can't take forward into next season and beyond.
31 Jan 2020 19:20:35
Thomas Lemar Deal almost done?
1.) 01 Feb 2020 08:21:38
It was never even on the cards.
02 Jan 2020 20:03:11
Ed, just seems us linked with Nathan Ake. Are we interested and is he good enough?
Always looked decent but watched him enough to be honest.
{Ed002's Note - He would be very, very expensive for Arsenal. I am not aware of any approach.}
1.) 02 Jan 2020 20:47:08
Thank you Ed 002.
2.) 02 Jan 2020 22:09:49
I've always thought he had it in him to be a top top CB, no idea how much he would cost but didn't he cost Bournemouth £20 million in pre decimalisation days? You'd have thought Bournemouth would want a huge profit to part company.
I've said it before and I'll say it again Connor Coady would be a very useful addition.
{Ed047's Note - I edit most pages on here 62 and I’ve seen Coady referred to as Captain Calamity on the Wolves page. Just saying.
3.) 02 Jan 2020 22:32:13
Fair comment mate, you can only call anything as you see it and I think the lad is a decent defender who is extremely comfortable on the ball.
Obviously I don't watch him on a regal basis but every time I have seen him he looks very very good to me.
{Ed047's Note - I haven’t seen enough of him to really know to be honest 62 but it’s always a concern when you read stuff like that.
We probably put loads of people off signing Mustafi! 🤣
4.) 02 Jan 2020 23:33:18
Yeah very very good point Ed047! Let's just hope the ever brilliant jewel in our crown Xhaka signs a new 10 year contract and Nasty Jose doesn't upset every Arsenal fan across the world by making us a £75 million offer we can't refuse for him just because it would really really spoil our week :-)
28 Dec 2019 23:59:37
So hopefully Bellerin, Chambers, Holding and Ceballos back tomorrow - interesting to see who gets dropped and who keeps their spot. May be Chambers and Holding as the two CDs 🤞
Reading about Xhaha - seems that MA likes a deep playing left footed midfielder. So Torriera and Xhaka in CM roles with Ozil in the hole.
Big game tomorrow as the relegation battle heats up 😂.
1.) 29 Dec 2019 10:59:26
We are all talikg about a relegation battle half heartedly but if we are not careful it could actually happen and in the latter stages of a relegation battle it usually comes down to who's got the most fight determination and spirit, ooopps best we avid that battle at all costs:-)
2.) 30 Dec 2019 08:13:26
Unless we make a couple of signings, I fear for us. A CB and a DM are essential, plus a LB on loan.
3.) 30 Dec 2019 11:39:18
I hope any new signings have more of an impact than Pepe Cellabos and Tierney have made, personally I'd work on what we have and if our current squad aren't good enough to keep us up so be it.
Apart from staying up our premier league season is over and the summer will be the most sensible to reevaluate what we do and don't need. More panic buys to replace previous panic buys will only limit our future spending.
Take our time and get it right this time is best in my opinion.
4.) 30 Dec 2019 23:24:31
On paper and spend - it was a great window. A CD, striker, winger and left back yet it’s proved to be terrible -, 🤡, injuries, unsettled plus a great young striker as a consolation but our main striker ( Laca ) negates the consolation as he goes missing. 🤷♂️ You couldn’t make this rubbish up as the only position we didn’t sign but needed was a CDM. Yet we signed one in Torriera only to play him in Ozils role and drop Ozil 😂😂.
5.) 31 Dec 2019 03:00:02
A CB is crucial in January. Prices will be high but if I remember right VD was a January buy. Sometimes it can’t wait. As for CM, that should depend on xhaka. I believe in what arteta can do with this squad. Just not defensively. Chelsea had better stamina with a fit squad. That’s all.
6.) 31 Dec 2019 06:35:55
Sensible buys, not panic buys are needed, difficult in the January window. What we have is simply not good enough or too young and inexperienced.
7.) 31 Dec 2019 11:02:24
If the current squad really isn't good enough to finish top 17 then we really are in a mess.
Yes if a really good player became available who fitted 100% into how Artetta wants to do things and had a brilliant attitude why not?,
All I'm saying is we shouldn't need to buy more players to avoid relegation and if what we've already got really isn't capable of finishing top 17 so be it, Ipswich Peterborough Brentford here we come :-) .
8.) 01 Jan 2020 00:49:42
Gunner, I think you're doubting our squad too much. Emery coached Arsenal awfully and no fault of his as I'm sure he was trying he's hardest, got us playing in a bad way with no shape or idea for too long that there's some bad habits to cut out.
Arteta has been in charge a week and we had Chelsea in the first half with a very injured squad. Fitness and not a full squad is what killed us not to say they wouldn't have won all the same but the fact we was sluggish in the second half showed how far behind fitness wise we are to the other top teams.
As I said, A good CB is all we need right now to get us competing for CL standard. VD single handedly changed Liverpool to the team they are today and Laporte Cities best CB getting injured has killed City's season.
26 Sep 2019 23:14:24
Well, turns out he really can't make decisions. He can't even name a captain. I give up
Arsenal players held a secret vote to help Unai Emery decide on his new 'five captains'. with Granit Xhaka, Mesut Ozil, Rob Holding and David Luiz all in the running
Embarrassing like our defending and tactics.
Please do something noteworthy so I can post something positive Boss - like resign?
1.) 27 Sep 2019 17:14:09
Read Ormsteins version of events mate, sounds more like a plea for support of a player under pressure from the fans.
I doubt any kind of vote took place that's just social media or tabloid trouble making in my opinion now mate.
2.) 27 Sep 2019 19:02:55
On Twitter? That Emery consulted the players even though it’s taken this long and still can’t make a decision on Vice Captain. I still give up.
3.) 27 Sep 2019 20:05:16
On BBC mate.
As you know SY mate I would rather Emery wasn't our manager and Xhaka wasn't our player but I try to see thugs objectively and as unbiased as I possibly can.
True Emery Plays Xhaka regardless of his ability and performances and even made him captain before the season started all of which I totally I disagree with him on but I genuinely think today is about club and players rallying round and getting behind a colleague who is receiving difficult personal treatment from some fans.
4.) 27 Sep 2019 23:31:47
Per BBC : Emery told the squad of his decision on Friday, after consulting with players.
Per Holding:
Discussing Arsenal’s captaincy situation, Holding said: ‘We had a vote the other week so we’ll see what happens and see who gets named. ‘[We had to] write names down and then give them to the manager. He will go through them obviously with his input and then we’ll see what happens. ‘I don’t know [when the decision will be announced]. I think it will be in the next couple of days or weeks. I have no idea.
Sorry but the guy can’t make a simple decision.
5.) 27 Sep 2019 23:35:23
Why is Unai Emery asking his players to vote on who should be captain? It’s pathetic. Seriously. Make a decision!
When you start worrying about what your players think, you’re in trouble. And why does he need FIVE captains anyway?
Great points.
6.) 28 Sep 2019 08:27:47
Not much about what Emery does makes sense to me SY, the defensive side of our midfield and defence are worse now than before he arrived and that was the area that Arsene refused to address and ultimately it cost him his job.
Unfortunately we are with Emery righ back to exactly where we were with Arsene just waiting for someone somewhere to make the decision to let him go.
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20 Feb 2020 22:08:33
A wins a win - well done boys.
Who is the Express talking about here:
Good technical performance but goes down ridiculously easy.
When will he sort his attitude out?
1.) 20 Feb 2020 22:26:24
Hmmm. could it be hair flowing young Frenchman.
2.) 20 Feb 2020 23:31:48
I’ve battered him on here for his falling over but thought he was okay tonight and most of the time he was on the floor he’d taken a whack. Sometimes easy and lazy to follow stereotypes COYG Saka! Keeps his place or play Tierney or Kol? Surely not ahead of Auba or Gabi on left wing? Nice problems to have 😀great result.
3.) 21 Feb 2020 08:57:43
Guendouzi and Lacca need to man up and stop trying to win free kicks they don't deserve. I'd like to see refs sending them both off for simulation as it would do both players and the team more good than harm in the long term.
If we can see it then so can refs who will take charge of our future games, Lacca Guendouzi and Torreira have earned themselves well deserved reputations as divers, not a greatest reputation to have in the game.
4.) 21 Feb 2020 18:29:05
Totally agree 62 - remember Ashley getting a red card which was deserved and I think it changed him for the better. I blame the refs for a lot - language, players surrounding and bullying refs, diving - stand up for the rules and the sport. Tell the captains before the game that you won’t put up with 💩 and not afraid to red card anyone. Sure the commentators would moan that ref takes centre stage but if we want to stamp it out we need to back the ref and let them take a tough line. I remember playing when I was young and refs telling me before the game that they’ve ref’d me before so consider this chat your warning and behave. refs can’t win to be fair but wish they’d stand up for the game. Can you imagine if Rooney was red carded for language or diving or surrounding the ref what he would have done in future games?
Anyway - I agree. Matteo needs to sort his attitude out as he’s not bigger than the club.
13 Feb 2020 21:22:29
Wish Emery would stop talking.
"Arsenal was a club on a downward slope for two years before I arrived. We stopped this fall and even began to rebuild the club with the Europa League final and fifth place in the league, only one point off of Tottenham despite the fact that we took just one point in our final five matches. "
It was his fault we lost the final and had a disasterous end to the season. He didn't mention the lucky unbeaten run that patched over issues or that the te@m was terrible to watch and were terrible in defence etc 🤷♂️
Just don't talk about it bud.
{Ed047's Note - I guess he’s looking for another job and trying to convince people he did a good job, which everyone knows was far from the case.
1.) 14 Feb 2020 20:05:28
He'd be far better off saying I got a lot wrong at Arsenal but I had time to reflect and I believe I will be a better manager in the future because of that learning.
We all learn more from and mistakes than we do our successes, but only if we accept them in the first place.
02 Feb 2020 16:07:38
Can't believe this stat - Lacazette's last away goal in the Premier League came on February 9th, 2019,. A year without scoring away from home 🤷♂️🤷♂️.
1.) 02 Feb 2020 16:13:31
He’s been very poor.
2.) 02 Feb 2020 16:18:59
He hasn't looked good to me since returning from injury, I actually thought he might have left in January because despite his obvious trying his best he seems to have lost his edge.
3.) 02 Feb 2020 16:58:51
I like Arteta more and more, his post match interview was honest without all the silly positive spin no one believes for a minute, he's neither embarrassingly in denial of all our faults and weaknesses or totally out of touch with reality in his appraisal of his team.
Ok all our problems accumulated over the past 15 years haven't suddenly vanished over night but the improvement on and off the pitch is very very encouraging.
4.) 02 Feb 2020 18:54:14
62 - remember he did moan about the long grass. Do t have rose tinted glasses. he also said our defending was better - it wasn’t : the number of clear chances Burnley had and made a hash of was a joke. Let’s be honest - he made a few bad calls and again the players weren’t on it. I thought he looked a little lost and run out of ideas in the last 20. Sure if it was a Freddie, Wenger or Emery : you would have said something. It’s only one game but Chelsea first half was the same. he needs to keep pushing for improvement and stop making excuses. We need to be honest.
Wasn’t the right game for Laca - why not play him in EL and FA Cup 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Playing Matteo was stupid
Dropping Pepe was stupid
Playing PEA out of position was stupid
Not happy with the boss today at all.
5.) 02 Feb 2020 19:33:09
I'm all for being honest SY, I didn't hear the grass comment but that is of course silly.
Your opinion on Guendouzi and other individuals isn't honesty, it's just you're honest opinion mate and as we all know opinion isn't fact.
We are far from the finished article but we are a completely different animal since Arteta arrived, in my opinion of course :-).
I am very very happy with how things under Arteta so far.
6.) 02 Feb 2020 19:47:18
I’m very happy with him also but he’s not above criticism
Nothing wrong with giving him a reality check as he did make some poor calls today ( as anyone can ) , didn’t react quick enough to make changes and generally had a poor day at the office. We were unlucky with our finishing but very lucky with Burnley’s ineptness in front of our goal. We were the width of half a ball from dropping all points.
I get concerned when we gloss over things as we will only get better if we improve on all the small decisions. Many were wrong today and it showed. We all need everyone to be fair and honest even if in general we are happy with him. I e posted plenty of pro-Arteta posts but today and Chelsea first half - I think he was poor.
7.) 02 Feb 2020 20:04:57
My own view is we have known many many many worse results and performances over recent years and Arteta inherited a squad that was our worst performing squad ever, none of these players were Artetta choice but he has done wonders with them in attitude effort mentality commitment mentality in a very short space of time, is Artetta perfect? No of course not he's just a rookie manager who has made an extremely impressive start in mine and many others opinions.
Sometimes the best managers in the world get it wrong and if they are lucky their players bail then out on other occasions we have to accept their human fallibility.
31 Jan 2020 21:04:13
So Emery, what went wrong.
"There were several problems: four captains; the [Mesut] Ozil - [Sead] Kolasinac case; [Nicolas] Pepe's signing, which needs time to be that of France . We didn't play well, that's for sure.
"That brought us bad results, there was no improvement, the fans focused on me and they threw me out. But I keep the positive things, there were many. "
4 captains - your fault
Ozil - your fault
Pepe - you're the coach bud
Fans paid to watch your crap - your fault
You taking no ownership - that's the problem.
1.) 31 Jan 2020 21:16:08
I hope Emery can find a good friend who can be honest with him about his mistakes and Emery will listen then learn from those mistakes in his next job.
He said when he left her lost his job because of 1 bad month, which to me just highlighted how out of touch with the reality of things he really was and why things could never improved for him or us while together.
If he's smart he will ask honest difficult questions of those who are capable of giving him honest straight answers.
2.) 31 Jan 2020 21:23:27
Very true - hope he does as he seems like a nice guy and I have nothing against him
I wish him well.
3.) 31 Jan 2020 22:47:14
Me too mate, he isn't a bad person Just a very misguided one about his own role and importance in achieving results, in my opinion he felt his input was more crucial than the players in achieving each and every result.
4.) 01 Feb 2020 01:30:33
So Mikel, will the two arrivals limit opportunities in the first team?
“This club needs competition of two or three players in each position to fight, ”
”If they are able to fight and compete and they are better than the other ones, they will play. If not, someone else will play.
competition and Fight
“Players are going to start games if they deserve to play and if they perform at the level of this football club.
fair competition
“We have some necessities in certain areas, playing some players in positions that are not really their positions. With more time I would like to have specialists for every position to do exactly what we want to do.
specialists in each position
Refreshing and I know people want to play youth - I don’t want us to never have a long term plan and just play 34 year olds. I want the best players on the pitch, develop youth but not at expense of club and play experience but not at the expense of the club. We’ve always wanted competition for positions, a team that can defend and attack, a team that entertains while plays for the shirt. The youngsters should earn their spot by playing well and earning their position, same as Ozil, PEA etc.
I trust Mikel to get the balance right. Not the most exciting window but we covered the positions required with the budget we’ve got. The boss is also talking sense and sensibly addressing the youth question. COYG!
5.) 01 Feb 2020 09:16:32
I hope Mikel will play his best 11 whenever possible while telling those in the team " It's up to you to keep your place with your performance and effort " while telling the rest of the squad " When your chance comes, make it count and make yourself undropable "
Rotation takes away competition in my opinion and job share takes away competitive atmosphere.
Turn taking is for mates on the local park while professional football should be about competition hunger and desperation to get in or stay in the team.
{Ed047's Note - I think he’s more than already showed that’s what he’s about 62.
I think it’s hard for some fans to drag themselves away from all of our previous weaknesses which Arteta has clearly made his absolute priority.
6.) 01 Feb 2020 10:00:21
Absolutely Ed047 mate I'm super impressed by Arteta as he seems to be the mixture of George/ Arsene we desperately needed, there is of course a place for sentiment but not in the field of competitive sports and in the pursuit of being the best you can possibly be within your sport.
When you know you are replaceable it drives you forward because you are desperate to hang on to what you have but the moment you start thinking you are safe no matter what it's the beginning of a downward spiral.
{Ed047's Note - 100% 62 and the game against Burnley will be another big test.
We actually have some fighters in this team now too who are no longer going to rollover
7.) 01 Feb 2020 10:49:12
That's my favourite thing about Artetta's Arsenal, no more rolling over and giving up then having the audacity to go over and clap the fans at the end of the game like defeated warriors without a battle scar between them, Grrrrr that was what stopped me watching live games under Arsene in the end, I just couldn't stand to watch it anymore.
I will back the players the team the manager win lose or draw as long as they give all they have for the club and the fans each and every game I'm happy.
8.) 01 Feb 2020 14:28:36
Chelsea second half was the perfect example - down to 10 men, pull level then go 2 1 down. Our fight and spirit keep us going.
9.) 01 Feb 2020 16:43:18
Exactly SY mate, win lose or draw that kind of effort deserves 100% backing from all fans.
Winning is brilliant but 100% effort is all you can demand.
10.) 02 Feb 2020 08:50:32
Soares has said that he’s seen a change at Arsenal -
“I see a team that wants to assume the game, a team that is comfortable to have the ball, and I see everyone looks like they are working hard when they lose possession as well.
“There’s a high press and then it’s all about controlling the opponent and trying to score as well. I think Arsenal is in a good way. ”
That’s a nice image that should drive a far better culture throughout our club.
27 Jan 2020 22:16:47
Great aggression, pressing and passion tonight., some great football tonight. Well played. On to Portsmouth away now! Well played Boss.
1.) 27 Jan 2020 23:34:09
Hair Hair, well said Sir :-)
09 Feb 2020 12:01:42
That could be a midfield 3 of
Granit - Torriera with Rambo Judy in front of them instead of Ozil
That’s a pretty good midfield - put Matteo on loan or on the bench as he’s not good enough or consistent enough yet.
09 Feb 2020 11:59:48
Rambo as the B2B midfielder - played right he could be our solution and his work rate is spot on, Mikel will stop the flicks plus he has epl experience. Brucie Bonus - he can score unlike the rest of our midfield.
03 Feb 2020 20:39:18
Thanks Ed - frustrating an 11th hour offer comes in for a player we need to shift and we can’t close it out. If he’s not in the long term plans, don’t get why we didn’t cash in or why They waited so late to bid for MO10. Sounds like Lemar was an option for us. never mind at least we signed an injured left back and an unproven CD 😂😂
Quality window 😫.
01 Feb 2020 14:26:34
Emile Smith Rowe (Huddersfield Town, loan)
James Olayinka (Northampton Town, loan)
Ben Sheaf (Doncaster Rovers, loan)
Tyreece John-Jules (Lincoln City, loan)
Konstantinos Mavropanos (Nurnberg, loan)
Deyan Iliev (Jagiellonia Bialystok, loan)
31 Jan 2020 19:19:03
Second that!
21 Feb 2020 23:02:22
I’ll put Kola there for now then - think Saka needs to be further forward and PEA in the middle
Have a great weekend everyone and looking forward to Sunday - I’ll enjoy Saturday first though.
21 Feb 2020 21:00:59
I would like a bit of a change - push Saka further up field and push PEA up front in his better position. Would rather have Martinelli instead of Pepe who is a little in / out and stop / start due to lack of confidence.
Main change - come out with attitude, discipline and pass the ball in front of our man to run onto it rather than to stop and pass backwards
Leno
Bellerin Mustafi Luiz Tierney
Torreira Xhaka
Martinelli Ozil Saka
PEA.
21 Feb 2020 18:29:05
Totally agree 62 - remember Ashley getting a red card which was deserved and I think it changed him for the better. I blame the refs for a lot - language, players surrounding and bullying refs, diving - stand up for the rules and the sport. Tell the captains before the game that you won’t put up with 💩 and not afraid to red card anyone. Sure the commentators would moan that ref takes centre stage but if we want to stamp it out we need to back the ref and let them take a tough line. I remember playing when I was young and refs telling me before the game that they’ve ref’d me before so consider this chat your warning and behave. refs can’t win to be fair but wish they’d stand up for the game. Can you imagine if Rooney was red carded for language or diving or surrounding the ref what he would have done in future games?
Anyway - I agree. Matteo needs to sort his attitude out as he’s not bigger than the club.
18 Feb 2020 22:22:41
Ed001 I used the emperor’s new clothes analogy a good few months ago on Emery and got killed on here. You’ve used it twice now to good effect. what’s going on
To be fair - anyone who watches the games and doesn’t think we’ve improved isn’t watching properly but they also have a great point as the issues are still there.
Watch the first half of Chelsea game or Newcastle game / we were terrible and that’s Arteta who’s accountable. Our defence is porous still, midfield weak, poor decisions, poor passing and movement, first decision - sideways. If you don’t see it - change your glasses as it’s not healthy for the club
Newcastle should have been up by the 50tj minute and defence was making the same mistakes - time and time again.
Stupid excuses - long grass zzzz
However - if you watch a couple of games you can see improvements for sure but not consistent enough to say we’ve changed. Enough change to give us hope but not enough consistency to say we’ve changed.
{Ed001's Note - you have summed it up excellently, better but not right yet.}
18 Feb 2020 00:02:46
Sorry Moe - went on a non targeted rant!