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23 Aug 2024 21:00:59
Nico Williams Incoming? That would be just perfect as winger, fast, runs at people and goal threat.
That would be a window.
07 Nov 2023 21:14:01
Could it be true - " Arsenal are reportedly considering selling Kai Havertz for €40 million, with Real Madrid being an option if they return with an interest. "
Me, I'd keep him as long as we can sign the players we really need. He was purchased to play a role that was too big for him. He could still have a role to play but we must address the obvious first.
If we had CM, CF and decent fast winger then keep him. If the 40m is stopping that as well as his ridiculous wage ( hopefully HR ran the negotiator thru a disciplinary for. ) then sell sell sell.
1.) 13 Nov 2023 08:16:15
Morning Ed002, would you have any insight as to whether Arsenal are looking to sell Havertz in January?
{Ed002's Note - No, they are not looking to do taht.}
2.) 13 Nov 2023 12:44:38
Thanks Ed,
3.) 18 Nov 2023 17:39:47
Just curious here, what role do you guys actually think he was brought in for? Back up for Ode? Replacement for Xhaka? Always thought of rice doing that role myself, that's when TP is fit holding the line anways, who knows, the guys looked p*ss poor wherever he's played.
4.) 19 Nov 2023 16:03:35
I'm guessing to replace Xhaka and/ or Partey Bruce.
07 Jul 2023 20:09:51
Hi Ed - is Romeo Lavia high on our wanted list and are we having conversations with player and owners to make this happen?
{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath - it will be difficult at best.}
1.) 12 Jul 2023 19:52:30
Thank you Ed.
20 Oct 2021 19:33:05
Ed, are we looking to sell Balogun? Thought he was doing well and just signed a deal. Clearly Martinelli needs a run out and Balogun a chance to shine before we lose both.
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal may well loan him out to get game time but the player is attrac ting interest and must think about his future.}
1.) 21 Oct 2021 00:44:23
Thank you - hope he gets a chance with us.
{Ed002's Note - Alexandre Lacazette and Eddie Nketiah will be gone so there is a chance.}
2.) 30 Oct 2021 21:35:31
Bit late to this conversation Ed but I was wondering if there's any chance arsenal might offer lacazette a new deal. Or he might want to stay if that wasn't the issue. With the last few games seems he's coming back into the team more.
{Ed002's Note - He needs replacing.}
3.) 31 Oct 2021 08:44:58
Thanks for the reply Ed.
4.) 02 Nov 2021 15:15:44
Ed, do you rate Luka Jovic?
{Ed002's Note - Luka Jovic (S) there was the option to return to Eintract Frankfurt on a loan with an obligation to buy but it depended on selling Andre Silva and not replacing him - but they opted for the well thought of Rafael Borre. Milan have a sustained interest but have opted for a cheaper solution. Inter wanted to take him as cover but they have much preferred options - but don't rule them out. Was offered to West Ham but nothing came of it. A third party enquired on behalf of Arsenal but come the end of the summer window there was no space for him - could return for him as a Lacazette replacement, and that would not be a surprise. Roma were offered him but the coach turned him down. Real Madrid will offer him in part exchange for others or for sale. Everton could be open to discussions but I am not aware of an approach just yet.
5.) 02 Nov 2021 15:36:45
Thanks Ed.
Has anyone seen him play Is he any good?
21 Jul 2021 11:27:04
Ed, it's looking like we are pushing for Tammy Abraham for a loan / loan to buy agreement. Popping up on a few news stories. Is there any truth to this and you were less than complementary about his attitude but not sure outside of him throwing his toys out of his prom. is he a quality striker that would improve our front line and we just need to manage his ego? Is he worth that effort and are we genuinely looking at him. thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Tammy Abraham (S) Was asked to sign a contract extension but is being a bit of a prima donna and a bitch which the club won't tolerate so the club will let him leave in the summer. Potential option for Wolves and Aston Villa but both have preferred options. West Ham have a huge list of potential striker options and have repeatedly failed to resolve their issue - they may come in to play. Borussia Dortmund asked Chelsea about his availability but it seems unlikely even though they have missed out on their preferred option. Newcastle, Arsenal and Milan may provide a wildcard options but Milan has preferred targets. Is being offered around.}
1.) 21 Jul 2021 12:53:07
Thanks Ed. You clearly don’t like him as a professional but what about as a player on the pitch? I’m thinking Anelka was also a problem off the pitch especially with his brother blowing smoke up his ass. But I’d take another Anelka all day as he was special….
2.) 21 Jul 2021 13:37:23
Have Arsenal not had enough of signing players Chelsea deem to be surplus to requirements?
{Ed014's Note - I really hope so as TA is nowhere near good enough and can’t we just give them Willian back as defective goods!
3.) 21 Jul 2021 15:57:16
Would be an absolute ridiculous signing if it happens. I see nothing in Abraham to suggest he is good enough for any top 10 Premier League team.
4.) 22 Jul 2021 03:24:51
I'm surprised Villa aren't after him. Played for them before, fits their style, good backup for Watkins. If we sign him and drop Balogun and Gabi I will be fuming.
5.) 22 Jul 2021 01:55:55
ED, maybe you can educate me a little on why in your opinion Arsenal are supposedly linked with Ramsdale for more money than what we sold Martinez for. Kante has won 2 consecutive league titles with 2 clubs. Ramsdale has done the opposite and been relegated consecutively with 2 clubs. I’m so confused.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea which Ed you expect to reply. There is no link between Ramsdale and Martinez and I don't understand the comment about Kante.}
6.) 22 Jul 2021 10:04:40
Tammy is better than Watkins. Doesn't always look the most gracious, but he simply scores goals. You don't often find his combination of mobility, technique and build. He's hard for defenders to play against.
Kid is our (Chelsea's) top PL scorer over the past 2 seasons for a reason. If he plays he'll get goals. You guys would be lucky to have him. I'll be sad to see him go, but I like him and he deserves to move somewhere where he'll play.
7.) 22 Jul 2021 12:24:46
Thanks for your comments Jackson, really nice to read.
I will be happy if Tammy comes to us. We have lacked a really tall guy in our box since Giroud crossed the divide :) and he's a giant!
Good luck for the coming season :)
8.) 22 Jul 2021 11:40:13
Ed I think the fella above is saying why are arsenal selling one of the best keepers in the league for £20m and looking to buy a keeper who hasn’t proved themselves for £30m.
{Ed002's Note - Emi Martinez wanted first team football and wanted out of Arsenal. He had pretty much no chance of playing at Arsenal. Aaron Ramsdale is young and will be able to take over from Leno at some point.}
9.) 22 Jul 2021 14:16:01
Sorry, didn’t mean ask in form of a Riddle. I’m basically asking what your opinion is on Ramsdale as I think he’s pony and don’t understand the price tag linked with him. He was awful for Bournemouth and they got relegated. Same when he went to Sheffield. Confidence is built from the back and I strongly believe Shef huge dip in form was not having Henderson between the posts but instead having Ramsdale. He’s stats are awful. Villa’s season for example I bet wld have been a lot different if they had him in goal instead of Martinez.
{Ed002's Note - It is where the club have ended up after others have fallen away. Mat Ryan was not happy and opted out. Andre Onana looked a good choice but he has better options now. Kia wants Neto still.}
10.) 22 Jul 2021 14:21:28
Hopefully that answers ColdIce question then. Ed, would you be able to provide us with an update on Ramsdale in terms of us pushing for a deal?
{Ed002's Note - That is not a proper sentence. I have explained there is interest from Arsenal.}
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24 Nov 2024 00:11:04
Well played boys - nice clean sheet and 3 nice goals. Bit more energy in our play. Nwaneri gets the ball and just wants to go forward fast - love it.
Saka - well played and really benefited from having another forward thst defenders are concerned about so they have to decide who to double up on. Sake or Ode - just not the case with Martinelli. Jesus and Kai as they don't really scare anyone like those two. well done
Shows the strength in having decent forwards and star players as they scare defenders.
1.) 24 Nov 2024 03:20:48
Fantastic win, full of zeal and magic, a mighty cause for optimism. Hope Ode stays fit and we keep going at teams.
2.) 24 Nov 2024 16:01:39
Night and day to how we played without Odegaard. Credit to Jesus as well, can't score for toffee but his movement was a big part of our attacking potency. I really hope that Arteta realises we don't have to be pragmatic all the time when Nwaneri can step in and keep us ticking.
Also feel that Timber doesn't get enough credit. He is a supreme athlete and his movement is so intelligent at finding space. Great performance against a good away team.
3.) 27 Nov 2024 07:35:59
I think Timber hasn't been praised as much as he might if he'd been available from the start, but he has looked very good indeed. Calafiori too, we no longer have the great big weakness to target at LB!
07 Nov 2024 00:00:43
Looking good at holding onto a 1 Nil deficit and creating no real chances ?
Come on Arteta - surely now you can see you've failed in the last few windows and Kai just isn't going to win a game for us on his own. Hope he's ok as that was a bad head injury.
The attack is non-existent as is our pace and desire to attack. Really frustrating and our lack of options / cover is astonishing for a club trying to compete on so many fronts
For the record - I hate seeing us play crap, hate when we don't win, hate it when our deficiencies care so obvious to see but are blatantly neglected or inadequately patched over
Get a grip and sort it out - bring back our Arsenal please.
1.) 07 Nov 2024 07:47:27
It’s the lack of cutting edge through the lines that Odegaard usually gives us. I find it bizarre that Nwaneri hasn’t got more minutes in that position, and he probably should have started last night.
2.) 07 Nov 2024 12:54:11
i feel its a bit harsh to pick out Kai as the problem, he wasn't great last night at all, but for me the bigger issue is Martinelli, Trossord and merino seem incapable of making the correct decisions in the final 3rd and lack any real quality in the final ball at the moment.
Nwaneri did more than the 3 of them in the few minutes he was on the pitch.
i would be happy to stick ith Kai if it mean that we could go and get a real quality LW to complement Saka.
3.) 07 Nov 2024 13:15:31
Glenn, we were devoid in every area of the pitch. Ode on his own can't fix that. The left wing is a mess. Our style of play seems to have changed drastically. Nothing is free flowing anymore. Our previously brilliant defense isn't anything like brilliant and seem to have an error or two in them each game.
4.) 07 Nov 2024 14:40:31
In Ode I trust.
5.) 07 Nov 2024 15:44:36
Sharpie I told you last year martinelli was over rated
Sell him asap.
6.) 07 Nov 2024 17:50:07
Ode is the captain of the ship when he is out the soul of the team is. Hopefully is back now and we will see better side.
7.) 07 Nov 2024 18:19:43
Hi Mark, away from football, how's things with you and yours mate?
I was sorry to read what is happening with your dad mate.
8.) 07 Nov 2024 18:49:54
Helllo John mate, my dad has picked up but to be honest I don’t know what to think, he has no life
Thanks for asking mate.
9.) 07 Nov 2024 19:18:16
Hi Mark, I'm pleased your dad has picked up mate, given his quality of life it's got to be a very emotionally confusing time for you and the family. Take care of yourselves and each other mate ?.
10.) 07 Nov 2024 19:31:46
Thanks John mate, much appreciated.
02 Nov 2024 14:42:35
Please don't say you are so proud of the boys or injuries impacted up - it was terrible limp effort from a team with zero idea and a manager who can't change things up or see that Martinelli / Trossard / Jesus / Kai just aren't good enough and we only score by a cross or Saka. Too predictable, no in game management and no pace. Plane terrible and we've been poor this season. Title charge over before I've lit the bonfire - that's really poor given the investment in squad and Arteta.
Sort it out boss.
1.) 02 Nov 2024 15:06:44
Well said mate there’s no excuses no doom and gloom and absolutely nothing positive and who ever thinks there is positives needs to give there head a wobble.
2.) 02 Nov 2024 15:09:24
I thinks we need a world class forward, won’t win anything with the forwards we have mow someone who will score 20 plus league goals I didn’t know why we didn’t go for Toney, wee need 3 wingers cover for saka a world class left winger and cover, I don’t want to say it’s over but city won’t drop an 8 point gap.
3.) 02 Nov 2024 15:09:48
Hello Sy4 it would be wrong to make excuses and I will not make them.
Totally different mentality from what I saw at the Emirates last Sunday. The problem for me is we have drifted into late Wenger mode with tippy tippy football. We have had no run of consistency all season. If you compare Ben Whites ball to Saka last Sunday and boom in the net. Too much passing in and around the area and the final ball is bad, but then again we have not got Ode.
I am not in Arteta out mode yet but this needs to be sorted, I don't want to be in the Wenger mode hoping next season will be the one
COYG.
4.) 02 Nov 2024 17:28:47
We need another option upfront and also should be using Nwaneri more to create our natural formation.
5.) 02 Nov 2024 17:30:32
Also our set pieces are now a bit embarrassing.
6.) 02 Nov 2024 17:33:45
Hi Bill - true but last Sunday we didn’t capitalise on our first half and drifted into slow football in the second half. Arteta isn’t brave enough or daring enough. It cost us 1st place the season before last and didn’t help last year. We also didn’t have enough attacking options outside of Saka or a cross…. while our defence is getting caught out more and Raya looks poor at crosses.
We really need better options up front and at CB. Why is White on bench while we play Partey at fullback? Who really thinks Trossard is anything other than a super-sub…. When will Arteta make a decent decision during a game to out wit the opposition. How is Jorginho a solution with 10 mins to go and how can you recover against Newcastle without any shots
Questions need answering
Who keeps putting Jesus’s boots on the wrong feet and what’s Kai doing?
Too much pressure on Saka to save Artetas arse or a corner - yawn. We’ve regressed and play slow football even when we are losing. It’s sad.
7.) 02 Nov 2024 18:01:14
The only good thing out of today was city lost let’s get odegaard back and start again and for gods sake buy a striker in january.
8.) 02 Nov 2024 18:17:32
Well said helder Glenn, on Nwaneri. if your good enough your old enough and he is 100% good enough Arteta should show more trust in the young lad. let him get some real game time and watch him really flourish, pep did it with foden at a young age and foden hasn’t done too bad has he. I personally believe that we have a much better talent on our hands with Nwaneri than city with foden. we just got to trust him and let the baller ball. ⚽️⚽️??.
9.) 02 Nov 2024 19:04:29
So City also lose and suddenly out of nowhere we are not the falsely proclaimed 8 points behind City but in reality still the very same 5 points behind we were at the start of the day.
There is no way of pretending and making today sound better than it really was but there is very clearly no shortage of way's to make it sound like a title ending disaster for which head's should roll.
10.) 02 Nov 2024 20:40:27
City losing makes it more frustrating 62 but I’m more bothered about how lame we are in defence and attack.
11.) 02 Nov 2024 21:16:10
Hi Sy, if we could all be at our 100% best 100% of the time wouldn't we all choose to be so mate. I very much doubt our player's are amy different to any us in that department or in our inability to achieve that level. Personally when I believe our player's have stopped caring about being the best they can be and aren't worried about losing i will most definitely give up on this team. But I genuinely don't believe we are anywhere close to that situation with this current squad so I accept the good with the bad days from them.
12.) 02 Nov 2024 22:30:22
I think we have to give credit to Newcastle for the way they played today.
13.) 03 Nov 2024 07:29:28
I'm guessing none of us are looking at yesterday's game in isolation. The emotions and rhetoric is cumulative. We've not looked good for a fair few games now and there are certain players who seem to have gone limp. And that's after just 10 games. Martinelli and Trossard are prime examples.
In yesterday's game even the player that has been quietly impressing with each match was poor - Kai Havertz.
The usually immense Rice seems lost without a playmaker like Ode (maybe should have started the game with Nwaneri) .
I'm not suggesting drastic measures (like Arteta OUT! ) . I'm saying that Arteta seems to be straying from our natural game. He's bought this group of players because they could play a certain way (attacking football) , and that's been working for us really well. Not letting them do what they do best is a far cry from fans expecting players to be their 100% best 100% of the time.
And sorry Sally, I can't give Newcastle credit. I didn't see anything from them that would warrant it. We were just poor. Really really poor.
14.) 03 Nov 2024 09:42:35
Newcastle got the goal then put everyone behind the ball.
Some good defending but the rest was sloppy passing/ no creativity and poor finishing from us,
15.) 03 Nov 2024 10:56:32
Very true Sharpie - It’s been building.
We need a reset and Arteta needs to take a look in the mirror as we knew we had been lucky with injuries, we missed our best chance of winning the league due to mentality and that we needed key positions strengthening. We had a style of play that worked. We’ve had injuries / red cards etc but we aren’t doing what made us great while others are better so exposing us.
Let’s get back to energy and pressing
Let’s get back to defending properly
Let’s get back to attacking with pace and passing bloody forward
Let’s push on for the next goal and stop the dark arts unless we really need them
Let’s get a CB, Striker and Winger to improve the squad - let’s get a winger that’s not the exact same as what we’ve got but better
Arteta be strong and bold - set standards
Please please please get a striker who can change a game and create a goal from nothing rather than one that needs 10 shots and the team to be performing to score. Get a winger who will Run at defence at speed and shoot.
Your engine room isn’t working - sort it out
Your attack is boring - sort it out.
16.) 03 Nov 2024 11:30:05
Great post Sy mate.
17.) 03 Nov 2024 15:06:15
Very lethargic yesterday. Once Ode is back so Rice, Ode and Merino/ Partey with White back at right back instead of Partey and Kai up front and not faffing around swapping with Trossard we are a different animal. We become much harder to beat with just one player back and White in correct position makes us more dangerous down the right. Martinelli really hasn`t helped as we either go right or get no end product. I`d prefer Tross or Jesus out there. No excuses for yesterday as should have had enough. Toothless yesterday very strange COYG As for title over talk bowlocks it is.
18.) 03 Nov 2024 19:16:41
Evening guys and Sally, What Rollercoaster weekend. At one point it was looking like we could possibly end up at the middle end of the table. I don't think The team nor ARteta are happy with the results. However we do have to keep in mind that this is not our best starting 11 and people are missing and others are being used out of tehir preferred positions. We are going through a tough period but only one thing will bring us out stronger the other side. that's us the fans to stay behind the team trust the process. No I am not happy with the performance of the team and not only yesterday but the last few games now. No i'm not happy with the style of play but i do love the team and believe our better days are ahead of us with this current team.
23 Sep 2024 21:33:34
What a second half - well played Arteta.
There's no way the Arsenal that Wenger managed in the last 5 years or in fact Arsenal in past years with Arteta could have held on against City.
The discipline, energy, shape and the obsessiveness to win was second to none. To watch them move as a single defensive unit, time waste, attend players on floor, wind up City etc etc. Loved it.
That was a statement game that showed we now have a manager who will sacrifice his attacking flair for his desire to win at any cost and a team that fights.
I loved seeing that in the second half and felt I should acknowledge Arteta's fantastic management of the game.
Well played.
PS - hope City get stripped of EVERYTHING! Haaland is a bigger ?️ end than Keane.
1.) 24 Sep 2024 01:38:38
I seem to remember Wenger's Arsenal with Santi and Giroud going to the etihad, playing a low block, and winning 2-0 on the counter? Don't diss the boss!
2.) 24 Sep 2024 05:49:48
SW, I like you a little more today. Platonically of course.
#dontdisstheboss.
3.) 24 Sep 2024 19:37:28
That wasn’t me slagging off King Wenger but rather paying a rather large complement to Srteta who I have been tough on
As he said - when Granit got sent off last time - we lost 5 nil…. We learned ?.
22 Sep 2024 18:42:06
Well battled boys - amazing battling. So so unlucky
Trossard - you plonker.
1.) 22 Sep 2024 18:47:40
Someone on reddit done a frame by frame break down of when the ref blew and when Tros kicked the ball it was less than a second.
2.) 22 Sep 2024 18:54:03
Agree fantastic battling performance! To be fair Tross should have had 3 yellows no arguments COYG Anger Management for Pep.
3.) 22 Sep 2024 19:29:21
He knew what he was doing and was stupid
Keane is a male chicken.
4.) 22 Sep 2024 19:46:09
To be fair we've had two red cards this season for the very same very avoidable offence which has most probably resulted in us dropping the entire 4pts we've dropped so far.
I'm far more disappointed in our own player's letting their teammates, manager and fans down than I am by refs inconsistency in enforcing this new directive. We are only responsible for and in control of our own actions and it's only by us looking within and learning from our own mistakes that we can 100% avoid this happening for a 3rd time.
5.) 22 Sep 2024 20:04:16
I'm of course biased but once again i don't think it's a sensible decision. A sensible decision was to not book Doku for faintly kicking the ball away after the play was stopped for our free kick. So clearly the referees have room to be sensible within this timewasting rule.
You can see Trossard is 100 % committed to getting that 2nd ball. And like said above it's not that much after the whistle when he gets to it. The way our brains work is when fully focused everything else is pushed aside and processed after completing the main task. Which is what i think happens here.
I would hate if our players stopped going for 2nd balls from now on because of the possibility of a booking for time wasting.
6.) 22 Sep 2024 20:44:09
Proud performance thought Party had is best game in ages for us in the middle, back 4 and Reya as usual solid as a rock with Calafiori only adding another solidity to that, top game from him considering his 1st start is such a high pressure game. Martinelli worked hard for the team and obvs hard to judge forward players today as it all backs to wall in 2nd half really. I think he needs rest and let's bring in Stirling for a bit.
{Ed014's Note - try not to praise Martinelli and Partey mate as they’re shite!
7.) 22 Sep 2024 21:36:36
1st sensible thing you have said lol.
{Ed014's Note - ????
8.) 22 Sep 2024 22:02:37
Martinelli did good today, still needs to work on his first touch.
01 Sep 2024 21:21:32
Thanks Ed and all Eds
Great site and info.
22 Jul 2023 08:40:04
Great news that we at long last want a proper RB - awesome
Thanks Ed.
18 Jul 2023 12:36:21
Ed, why isn’t there space for a striker? We really only have Eddie and Jesus don’t we? Thanks for your expertise and knowledge sharing.
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal is overrun with attacking players.}
12 Jul 2023 19:52:30
Thank you Ed.
22 Jun 2023 15:26:21
We needed a decent CM and were top by a mile. We didn’t cough up and guess what - we are still looking for that position but now as runners up. Jorginho was a ? signing and not a Partey cover which was 100%, required. We went cheap - failed and now going to overspend STILL ?
Bottle job on and off pitch.
01 Dec 2024 20:29:53
Great first 25 mins or whatever it was then we completely feel asleep to allow Hammers a fighting chance that they didn’t deserve. Defence still feel shaky for a title challenge and cover is not great.
Ode and Saka were class for the special goal
Honestly - Kai was fortunate as he had a terrible touch before the goal but still held his nerve. Goalie should have done better.
Raya can drift off a little, not best at crosses when under proper pressure due to his height so we need our first choice defence 100% of the time and the new Italian to screw his head on as mistakes are costly when we have to have 100% win record.
What yesterday showed was three things - when we play the ball forward and fast we are superb. However we keep drifting into stupid possession football with sloppy passes. Lastly, the back up guys just aren’t good enough - Kai, Jesus and Sterling are hopeless without Saka and Ode. I thought someone had stolen Sterling’s confidence and put a rope with a tonne weight on because he couldn’t run forward to save his life. Jesus was just as hopeless. Kai was poor except the goal. These guys just aren’t good enough to start and we must address in this window to have a fighting chance.
We are 9 points off and still with our normal wobble period to come. We need better cover at CB and far better options up front or Liverpool will be mentally Champs come Christmas.
Letting West Ham in - did show a weak under belly. Sorry
Our second half performance should a lack of quality in depth
First 25 mins showed how good we can be but a few I juries and we are screwed. Arteta has not built a strong enough squad. That’s on him.
24 Nov 2024 18:50:28
Well it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving complete and utter bigheaded dickhead.
17 Nov 2024 22:42:07
RIP Ed002 - he will be sorely missed. So sorry to hear this very sad and thinking of his friends and family. Need to live life to the full, share our knowledge and pass it forward to others. Very sad and makes you think….
12 Nov 2024 21:14:54
Clearly hoping we go on a very long winning run as unbeaten run won’t cut it. We have had some tough away games so that’s a positive despite the poor results.
Anyways- I wanted to ensure you were good 62 and sorry if you got a bit of attention. Not my intention ?.
11 Nov 2024 08:59:55
Hi 62 - hope you are well and still enjoying your job.
You are right - 2nd two years in a row and we need to make big tough decisions to push on and win.
If we had done that we could have been champions and I hold the manager account to the pathetic run in two years ago and not signing enough quality last year or being brave enough. Still did a good job but 2nd twice - we want to win as that’s what sports about and im still a supporter as I want the best for the club.
Hopefully we go on a winning run as we need it ??.